Athena
09-08-05, 04:50 PM
...from the rise of civilazation to present.
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View Full Version : 10 Most Important Events Of Human History Athena 09-08-05, 04:50 PM ...from the rise of civilazation to present. What do you think? cato 09-08-05, 05:57 PM the battle of Milvian Bridge was very important, though it would probably be better if it had gone the other way. D-day was pretty big, though I don't know what effect a failure would have had on the outcome. the cracking of the Japanese naval code during WWII, that made a huge impact on the war, which made in impact on the world. the invention of the nuclear weapon changed the world pretty profoundly. hopefully they are done changing the world. the death of Alexander the great. if he would have lived longer, there would be no telling how the world would be changed, perhaps Europe, the middle east, and east Asia would be much closer. that's all I got right now Athena 09-08-05, 06:29 PM Those sound good, thanks. Just to clarify though, by rise of civilizations I mean around 5000 BCE. cato 09-08-05, 07:03 PM aren't my submissions within that time frame? or were you pointing that out for future posts? that is the reason I didn't say domesticating animals, or inventing fire, or the wheel. devils_reject 09-08-05, 07:37 PM Rome; for no real reason The edict of Milan; a series of threads has emerged on this forum based on this Invention of writing by the Sumerians; too bad for IBM First official series of laws by the Egyptians…I hate them for that First moon landing…I wonder if the astronaut cares anymore The renaissance… We realized how dumb we are for a while Russ723 09-08-05, 08:05 PM Alexander's campaign stopped when his troops refused to follow him any further. His conquering days were over. Watcher 09-08-05, 10:12 PM I think the farther you go back the more difficult it is to pick out the "most important" events, because the rate of change then was quite slow compared to the rate of change today. So, my list contains what I feel are more recent important technological events, which have triggered high rates of change. 1) Development of modern mathematics, especially algebra and calculus. 2) Development of nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction. 3) Development of electronic computing and telecommunication technologies. savior-of-hyrule 09-08-05, 10:30 PM the birth of jesus!(haha) or birth of christianity. Facial 09-08-05, 10:33 PM Because of the butterfly effect, I cannot list anything. savior-of-hyrule 09-08-05, 10:34 PM umm, well I am an ignorant teen, Butterfly effect? Neildo 09-08-05, 10:44 PM umm, well I am an ignorant teen, Butterfly effect? If you change just one aspect of anything, the world would be totally different than it is now. - N madoc 09-08-05, 11:26 PM 1.development of writing 2.newtons work 3. opening of trade routes, silk road 4. european settlement of the new world 5. the western acceptance of zero 6. the development of the concept of zero 7. industrial revolution 8. fall of rome 9. opening of east asia 10. china giving up on exploration granted alot of these were not good things, and alot of people died.. but these are 10 that come to mind when I think about what shaped the work of today kenworth 09-09-05, 07:19 AM 1.euclid gathering allother peoples work into a single book and clarifying. 2.the invention of numbers 3.when people trading turned into communities utrned into cities. 4.napoleans death 5.the appeasement of hitler 6.invention of the atomic bomb 7.invention of capacitor/resistor 8.writing 9.i got a nasty cut on my leg. sniffy 09-09-05, 09:05 AM 1. the evolution of the reasoning brain all the rest is just history River Ape 09-09-05, 09:56 AM Humans have been dispersed over the many lands since well before the rise of civilisation, and there have been few historical events that have impacted upon those living all over the planet. So maybe it is inventions and ideas that have really been critical to the path of human history. I propose the following six inventions and four ideas (or "intellectual inventions"): 1: the invention of the loom 2: the mechanisation of milling 3: the invention of paper 4: the invention of the stirrup 5: the development of steam power 6: the invention of electrical power generation 7: the concept of redemption 8: the concept of human rights 9: the concept of scientific method 10: the concept of evolution I omit the invention of the ox-drawn plough and of writing, since I regard these as the enablers of civilisation rather than events that have guided its path. I omit the invention of brewing/fermentation, also of the sail, since I believe these preceded civilisation. cosmictraveler 09-09-05, 10:50 AM 1. Language 2. Written language 3. Sanitation 4. Antibiotics 5. Farming 6. Plough 7. Printing Press 8. Electricity 9. Anticeptics 10. Mathmatics Fraggle Rocker 09-09-05, 07:34 PM Since the Traveler listed at least three things that predate the dawn of civilization (which I believe is customarily dated more like 7,000BCE with the construction of the first true "city"), I'll toss in my usual remark about the formation of the first multi-species community when dogs domesticated themselves. As I've said on other threads, at that time (around 11,000BCE) we were living in tribal groups of one or two hundred. Everybody was personally acquainted with everybody else and most were blood relatives. We were highly suspicious of the other tribes and cooperation was rare. Suddenly we learned to love "people" who weren't even of our own species and couldn't speak to us at all. I believe that opened our minds and hearts to the idea that we were capable of getting along with strangers and that forming larger communities created greater prosperity and comfort. If it weren't for dogs I wonder whether today we'd be able to feel a sense of kinship with a person on the other side of the planet who is a different color, prays to a different god, and is really nothing more to us than an abstraction. So if your list can include language (guessing around 75,000BCE) and farming (ca 9,000BCE), mine can include the joining of humans with dogs to create something greater than either. Just as with language and farming, without dogs there might be no such thing as civilization. gnasher 09-09-05, 08:21 PM Hi everyone - here is my list. 1. Self awareness. I am a thing that can do things to other things. 2. Speech. I can describe things to other things, and even ask the things to do something. 3. Writing. I have a record of the things for which I've asked. 4. Religion. I can make other people do things, using the things I write and say. The things I do make me powerful. (This also makes war!) 5. Money. I can buy things to make me happy and keep my wife off my case. I also promise to pay God to love me and my neighbours not to attack me. 6. Steam Engine. People no longer have to use animals or their own legs to do things. Thank you Mr Trevithick. My ancestors can now work in a mine because they haven't been killed by carrying all their belongings wherever they were going. They can also go at 100 m.p.h. on a train from London to Cheltenham. Quite why they would want to go there is a mystery. 7. Electricity. Instant power. Now humans are really cooking without gas. We all feel enlightened. I'd like to thank Mr Rutherford at this point. 8. Personal transport. Mr Benz invented the Mercedes. Now we can all go where we want when we like. Well, for a while at least. 9. Uranium cascade. All done from the safe confine of a major US city. Thank God (point 4) for steady hands. 10. Jet engine. Only one piece moves? You've got to be joking. Now I can enjoy all the benefits of all of the above from anywhere on the planet. I can't resist a final point - Alan Turing's Colossus. Absolute genius. Followed closely by 'Baby' in Manchester, UK. Having seen a working replica of Baby (Manchester Science and Industry Museum) operated by some of its designers, I am astonished that such utter genius leads to me trivially typing posts such as this. River Ape 09-10-05, 05:13 AM They can also go at 100 m.p.h. on a train from London to Cheltenham. Well, they can travel at 100mph on part of the journey to Swindon, whether proceeding to Cheltenham or anywhere else. Alas, the days when the Cheltenham Flyer (http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r037.html) was the World's Fastest Train are long gone. Quite why they would want to go there is a mystery. Possibly because they work at GCHQ, are keen or horseracing, or like Regency architecture. http://stampnik.tripod.com/images/number57.jpg River Ape's place in St George's Road. However, I regard the chief purpose of the railway as facilitating travel to London by Cheltonians. JasterMereel 09-20-05, 08:12 PM Saying that all of the 10 most important things in all of human history all occurred AFTER the rise of "civilization" is completely wrong, not to offend anybody. If you are going to talk about the 10 most important events in human history then I would say that most of them happened well before the rise of "civilization" (Sorry, I put that word in quotes because the definition of it is usually really silly and I don't want anybody to think that I hold with the old fashioned "cities = civilization" idea, even though the word does originate from the latin word for cities). Here are my picks, although some of them don't correspond to the 7000 b.c. and after mark. 1. Bipedal Locomotion: With this, Hominids were now able to use their hands exclusively for tasks other than walking. 2. Development of the apposable (sp?) Pinky. No, not the apposable thumb, the pinky. Pick up a cylindrical object or a spherical object and then you'll realize how important the pinky we have is to our toolmaking capabilities. I don't believe that any other Primate has the same pinky as we do, so it's really important to our history as a species. With this comes the making of tools. For instance, if you pick up a stick, because of the pinky you have being able to in effect wrap around the shaft ofthe stick, you can use your wrist for most of the power in swinging it, whereas most primates have to use their entire arms. Also, if you tried flint-knapping you'd probably master it within a few days, not because it is an easy skill, but because our hands have evolved to do it, and it's instinctual. 3. The transition from a species that mainly scavanges to a species that mainly hunts. Not only does the added protein from meat contribute to brain development, but in addition a predatory animal must be able to manipulate his/her prey, which encourages very abstract and sophisticated strategic thinking skills. The reason why many modern people aren't good at strategic or long-term thinking is because we don't have to be; everything is done for us by someone else (all of the things that maintain our basic survival). If you look at hunter-gatherers (the few that are left), or cultures with a very rich tradition of hunting from early childhood into adulthood, then you will find that most of these people have excellent strategic thinking skills. 4. The Ice Ages. Our species was litterally forged during the harsh conditions of the Ice Ages. Most of our major competition died off (including most of the other hominid species) and it gave us the durability as a species to survive in a variety of conditions outside of our native africa. 5. Our status as social animals. This should probably be at the top of the list because so much of what we have wouldn't be here in any form had we not been social animals. Heck, we are defined by the societies we create, but the reason why I didn't put it at the top of the list is because there are many other socially complex animal species. Furthermore, the reason why humans can think on such a high, abstract level isn't because we have a higher brain capacity than other animals, or because somehow they are better, it's because in addition to the large brain/body mass ratio we have millenia of social "software" implanted in each one of us. There are plenty of animals who can think abstractly, can create works of art (albeit simple ones) such as other primates, and who feel intense emotions just as we do, and we aren't the only animals on the planet with self-awareness. Show a dog or a cat a mirror and they will not bark or hiss because they can tell it is themselves, which is a sure sign of self-awareness. We aren't even the best at problem solving. There are bird species that can solve puzzles with such a level of complexity that I am sometimes tempted to wonder if some humans wouldn't be stumped by it. 6. We don't have a mating season. As silly as this one sounds, it confers on us a massive advantage, because we can mate and have children at ANY time of the year, whereas most animals only mate during the spring or summer. 7. We also pass on the knowledge of one generation onto the next. This is quite possible the only reason why we, and not Neanderthals for example, survived and became as complex as we did. Think about it for a moment. Think about the amount of knowledge that YOU, even if you think you don't know anything at all, have in comparison to your average stone age person. Think about how huge a gap that is. In fact, most people from this time period would appear as gods to stone age man if they had gone back in time. We aren't more intelligent than stone age man, we have the advantage of THOUSANDS of years of knowledge behind us because we teach our children actively, rather than relying on them to figure everything out for themselves. 8. Complex form of spoken communication. For obvious reasons, this is an advantage. Think about how difficult it is to work with someone with whom you have no common language and you'll understand why it's on this list. 9. Domestication of Plants and Animals. Increases population growth, and the ability to have specialists. 10. Written language. This is at the bottom of the list mostly because there have been some intensely sohpisticated societies which have existed without it at all. For example, the Incas of Peru. They had no written language at all. The reason why it is on the list is because it further facilitates the spread of knowledge from one generation to the next, which is why when it was invented, the pace of history seemed to increase to much, at least in Eurasia. fuzzywuz 10-03-05, 02:04 PM guess I'd hafta say it was the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. did a job on Rome. Gave rise to Western Civ. set the standard for human behavior, which nowadays is pretty widespread all over the world. that's my choice for historical event mountainhare 10-07-05, 03:38 AM I can't think of ten, however, off the top of my head. 1. When humans learnt how to farm their food. 2. When Charles Martel stomped the Moors at the Battle of Tours. 3. Christopher C. discovering America. 4. Invention of the radio. 5. Discovery of germs by Louis Pasteur. Xylene 10-21-05, 11:29 PM Animal and plant domestications happened too early for your timeframe, I'm thinking. So, let's see... 1) Weaving 2) Pottery 3) Wheeled transport 4) Ships, boats 5) Metallurgy (probably way back) 6) bows and arrows 7) tents (mobile shelter) 8) saddles, stirrups 9) plowshares 10) weaponry and fortifications Sci2000luka 06-16-06, 03:22 AM This what I think, considering that civilization began when people settled into communities, for civilized means settled and cultured: 1. Advent of Agriculture (c. 10,000 BC- Egypt) 2. The drive to settlement and urbanization (c.10,000BC- All around) 3. The advent of animal husbandry (c.10,000-8,000 BC- All around) 4. Hippocratean advances in medicine (c. 400 BC- Greece) 5. Invention of writing (c. 4,000 BC- Mesopotamia, China, Americas) 6. Advent of the Copernician view of Earth (mid-1600's- Poland) 7. Standardization of scientific deduction (scientific method)-(1640- England) 8. The steam engine and the onset of industrialization (c. 1750- England) 9. Mechanized transportation (train, car etc.) (1750- Germany, England) 10. Invention of the digital computer and later, internet (1940,1970 respectively- US) Well, this is just what I think. For most practicality I have avoided the subject of religion. Hope this helps in your pursuits of reason Absane 06-16-06, 03:43 AM 3. Christopher C. discovering America. Wow. You are misinformed. CC didn't "discover" America, on purpose or accident. He was looking for India. He exploited the natives of Bahamas (I think that's it) and is responsible for mass genocide of those natives, which he thought were Indians. 20,000 years ago some people migrated to North America via a land bridge between Asia and NA. Maybe 1,000 years some Viking guy found NA, and a few years ago they found a map of this, which maps northern Canada. The Devil Inside 06-16-06, 04:02 AM well, he discovered it for the purpose of economic exploitation...:p he was a bumbling fool that has been deified by western civilization. anyone can blindly sail ships across water, HOPING to find something on the other side. Absane 06-16-06, 04:07 AM I wish I was told what CC really did when I learned about him. We treated him like a deity where I went to school. We watched videos that made him look like a good guy. You could probably do the same thing with Hitler :p Yea, didn't CC look for a better route to India for make trade easier and cheaper? Perhaps I need to re-read the first chapter of "A People's History of the United States." leopold 06-16-06, 04:46 AM my list (no particular order) 1. fire 2. ability to cast metal 3. language 4. printing press 5. wheel 6. math 7. steam engine 8. transistor 9. telephone 10. medicine leopold 06-16-06, 05:07 AM out of curiousity i googled '10 greatest inventions' and here is what encarta has to say: 1. The Mechanical Clock. 2. The Toilet 3. The Printing Press. 4. Immunization and Antibiotics. 5. The Telephone. 6. The Electrical Grid. 7. The Automobile. 8. The Television. 9. The Computer. 10. Something New. So many seminal new inventions are coming into their own right now that one of them surely belongs on this list, but which one? The Internet represents the emergence of a global brain, separate from all the human cells contributing to it. Birth control will ultimately transform the role women play in society and history--and any transformation in who women are will force a transformation in men, too. Genetic engineering can potentially complete the metamorphosis of people into products. There's no telling what such an objectification of ourselves will do to us. And what about virtual reality? It's bidding to dissolve the age-old distinction between what is real and what is imaginary. I can't imagine how that will change our lives--no, really, I can't. Imagine. http://encarta.msn.com/column_10greatestinventions_tamimhome/The_10_Greatest_Inventions.html Dr Hannibal Lecter 06-17-06, 09:51 AM Some here apparently don't quite grasp, poor dears, the meanings of the words 'events' and 'history'. And some of them vote, so don't, of course, expect to find 'the invention of democracy' on my list, which appears below in no particular order: 1) The birth of Mohamet. 2) The birth of Jesus of Nazareth. 3) The birth of Confucius. 4) The birth of Siddhartha Gautama. 5) The birth of Copernicus. 6) The birth of Bach. 7) The birth of Aristotle. 8) The birth of Lenin. 9) The birth of Darwin. 10) The birth of Einstein. leopold 06-17-06, 10:15 AM i would call an invention or discovery an event. wouldn't you? Fraggle Rocker 06-17-06, 04:01 PM Music. Without that I wouldn't want to be alive. terryoh 07-02-06, 01:53 AM I choose to concentrate on military events. In no specific order (i.e. the first ones that come to mind): 1. The Battle of Tours. Had Charles Martel and the Franks (French) not defeated the invading Arab armies in this battle, Europe as we know it, Christiandom, and maybe even the colonization of South and North America would've been VASTLY different. The one world religion might even be Islam today. 2. The Battle of Hastings. Feudalism was introduced to England, as was the French language, which shaped our modern English language. 3. The Battle of Teutoberg Forest. Had the 3 (or 4?) Roman legions defeated the Germanic armies a few years after the Birth of Christ, ALL of Europe might've been Romanized and events such as the Anglo-Saxons invading England and Franks settling in France might not have happened. 4. Battle of Arras. Had the British not briefly checked the German army, which had advanced through Holland, Belgium, and Northern France, all of the 338,000 that were evacuated from Dunkirk might've been killed or captured, and may have swayed the outcome of Operation Sealion or even initiated the surrender of Britain to Hitler. 5. Battle of Midway Islands. Enough can't be said about this battle. If the Japanese had won, the entire Pacific Carrier fleet of the Americans might've been wiped out. Although being the arsenal of democracy, not even time would've been bought to halt Japan from taking over Hawaii and it's vast oil deposits. Japanese carriers would then have had free reign to bomb American coastal cities. Who knows how the Americans would've taken it if their industries were being pummelled? 6. Battle of Stalingrad. Had the Germans won this battle, the oil and grain supplies on the Ukraine would've been enough to continually fuel the German army. The Soviets might've collapsed as these German armies might've swung northwards to flank the remaing Soviet divisions. With the USSR gone, it would've been only the British Empire and the USA to go at it with the Germans and Japanese. And before people start bragging that Hitler STILL would've lost, we really don't know. Just so everyone knows, the BEST of Hitler's equipment and armies went to the Eastern front, NOT the Western Front against the Americans. The fact that the British, Americans, and Canadians struggled against Hitler's "B-level" armies is a testiment to how successful the Germans were against the best of America, Britain, and Canada. Without the USSR sapping up the resources of Hitler's "A-level" armies, those "A-level" armies combined with "B-level" armies could've (although not definitely) defeated the Americans, British, and Canadians. I'll think of more, but I have to go to bed now. Hapsburg 07-02-06, 05:02 AM guess I'd hafta say it was the resurrection of Jesus from the dead. You do realize that is physically impossible, right? Gave rise to Western Civ. That existed some 600 years or more before this "jesus" fella supposedly existed. set the standard for human behavior, Actually, most societies in the west are based on Anglo-Saxon style of common law, and most Western, and many African and Eastern governments are based on the Roman Republican form of government. CC didn't "discover" America, on purpose or accident. Fine, he "rediscovered" it. Close enough. The fact is, his voyages layed the foundation for the Age of Discovery, and the colonial empires of the great nations. Yea, didn't CC look for a better route to India for make trade easier and cheaper? Looking for a new route to India, Oceania, or China, all of which were key to the spice and silk trades, but ended up in the Caribbean, and thought it was the East Indies/Oceania, which is why we still call the islands the "West Indies". *snip* Uh, number 2 didn't even happen. Anyway, my no.1 would've been "discovery of how to use fire". Roman 07-02-06, 04:12 PM If it happened in the Middle East, Europe, or the Americas post-Conquista, then it was important. Anything that happened anywhere else doesn't matter. S.A.M. 07-02-06, 04:15 PM how come no one thought the internet as a significant event? leopold 07-02-06, 05:43 PM how come no one thought the internet as a significant event? because the internet doesn't exist it is a protocol that allows computers to talk to one another. if you think about it there is no direct connection between your computer and mine. Roman 07-02-06, 10:48 PM What about when you talk to someone? There's no direct connection (whatever the fuck that means) between someone talking and someone listening. leopold 07-02-06, 11:02 PM the protocol was designed in such a way that the means of communication was considered unreliable. which explains the use of packets and the fact that one packet might reach you from a local server and the next from a server 2000 miles away My Sexy Blue Feet 07-02-06, 11:50 PM I think Internet, or maybe phonelines are definetly one of the greatest. It has changed the world for ever, and has joined up people from all around the globe. I know it's only recent, but i think it is still important. Music. Fire. Speech.(language) Electricity D'ster 07-02-06, 11:55 PM Discovering our human diversity. Athelwulf 07-03-06, 04:17 AM I wish I was told what CC really did when I learned about him. We treated him like a deity where I went to school. We watched videos that made him look like a good guy. Fuck, same here man. "lyk omg Christopher Columbus is sooo gr8 kidz!!1" I swear, he's the only sea explorer that I was taught about. And not very well either. :bugeye: You could probably do the same thing with Hitler :p You can definitely do the same thing with Hitler. That's what the Nazi regime did. ;) Athelwulf 07-03-06, 05:21 AM I'm not gonna restrict myself to ten. I'm gonna name all the really important events I can think of. Here's a bunch in chronological order (to the best of my knowledge): :- The discoveries that the Earth is round, that it's not the center of the universe, and that it revolves around the sun :- The Renaissance :- The invention of the printing press :- The fall of monarchy in favor of representative democracy :- The Industrial Revolution :- The discovery and harnessing of electricity :- The discovery of evolution :- The Information Age :- The launch of Sputnik 1 :- The creation of the Internet Oh, haha. Whadaya know ten exactly. Communist Hamster 07-03-06, 05:32 AM The domestication of animals. The invention of hay Electricity Global communications Written language The fall of the Roman Empire Hmm, can't think of anything else right now. PsychoticEpisode 07-03-06, 10:10 PM 1. ancestors of man surviving the extinction of the dinosaur 2. the wheel 3. toolmaking 4. killing our food without physically touching it 5. Some of our ancestors getting out of Africa 6. discovering the pleasures of sex 7. questioning our place in the universe 8. discovery of contraception 9. reaping the spoils of war 10. building things that go boom Hapsburg 07-03-06, 10:23 PM Anything that happened anywhere else doesn't matter. Chinese were the ones who discovered gunpowder, which moved to the middle east via trade, which then came to europe via more trade. Gunpowder was a very important discovery, that revolutionized warfare, industry, and commerce for centuries afterward. Athelwulf 07-04-06, 08:30 AM 6. discovering the pleasures of sex That's been with us at least since organisms began reproducing sexually. I'm not sure when it began feeling good, but I'm guessing it's been a while. PsychoticEpisode 07-04-06, 07:39 PM That's been with us at least since organisms began reproducing sexually. I'm not sure when it began feeling good, but I'm guessing it's been a while. Who's talking about procreation. I enjoy sex a hell of a lot more when I'm pretty much convinced I'm not going to knock up my partner. My partner, feeling as confident as I, is more apt to enjoy it also. Fraggle Rocker 07-06-06, 08:51 PM That's been with us at least since organisms began reproducing sexually. I'm not sure when it began feeling good, but I'm guessing it's been a while.How about forever? That's why organisms do it. Copulation has to feel good because if it didn't, an organism wouldn't be compelled to do it and its genes would not be passed down. Humans are the only animals who understand the relationship between intercourse and procreation and would do it even it didn't feel good. madanthonywayne 07-12-06, 08:54 PM Wow. You are misinformed. CC didn't "discover" America, on purpose or accident. He was looking for India. He exploited the natives of Bahamas (I think that's it) and is responsible for mass genocide of those natives, which he thought were Indians. 20,000 years ago some people migrated to North America via a land bridge between Asia and NA. Maybe 1,000 years some Viking guy found NA, and a few years ago they found a map of this, which maps northern Canada. This kind of revisionism pisses me off. If Leif Ericson "discovered" America long ago, but nothing came of it, who cares. The same goes for the Chinese guy that may/may not have discovered America. It's the follow up that counts. Whatever Columbus set out to do, his voyage resulted in Europe becoming aware of America. A more straight forward way of saying "becoming aware of" is "discovering". So whether or not there were stone age people already in America, Columbus discovered it. If the "Indians" had crossed the ocean first, they could rightly claim to have discovered Europe, or whatever they would have chosen to call it. But they didn't. We discovered them, not the other way around. Silas 08-04-06, 09:37 AM Saying that all of the 10 most important things in all of human history all occurred AFTER the rise of "civilization" is completely wrong, not to offend anybody. If you are going to talk about the 10 most important events in human history then I would say that most of them happened well before the rise of "civilization" (Sorry, I put that word in quotes because the definition of it is usually really silly and I don't want anybody to think that I hold with the old fashioned "cities = civilization" idea, even though the word does originate from the latin word for cities). Here are my picks, although some of them don't correspond to the 7000 b.c. and after mark. 1. Bipedal Locomotion: With this, Hominids were now able to use their hands exclusively for tasks other than walking. 2. Development of the apposable (sp?) Pinky. No, not the apposable thumb, the pinky. Pick up a cylindrical object or a spherical object and then you'll realize how important the pinky we have is to our toolmaking capabilities. I don't believe that any other Primate has the same pinky as we do, so it's really important to our history as a species. With this comes the making of tools. For instance, if you pick up a stick, because of the pinky you have being able to in effect wrap around the shaft ofthe stick, you can use your wrist for most of the power in swinging it, whereas most primates have to use their entire arms. Also, if you tried flint-knapping you'd probably master it within a few days, not because it is an easy skill, but because our hands have evolved to do it, and it's instinctual. 3. The transition from a species that mainly scavanges to a species that mainly hunts. Not only does the added protein from meat contribute to brain development, but in addition a predatory animal must be able to manipulate his/her prey, which encourages very abstract and sophisticated strategic thinking skills. The reason why many modern people aren't good at strategic or long-term thinking is because we don't have to be; everything is done for us by someone else (all of the things that maintain our basic survival). If you look at hunter-gatherers (the few that are left), or cultures with a very rich tradition of hunting from early childhood into adulthood, then you will find that most of these people have excellent strategic thinking skills. 4. The Ice Ages. Our species was litterally forged during the harsh conditions of the Ice Ages. Most of our major competition died off (including most of the other hominid species) and it gave us the durability as a species to survive in a variety of conditions outside of our native africa. 5. Our status as social animals. This should probably be at the top of the list because so much of what we have wouldn't be here in any form had we not been social animals. Heck, we are defined by the societies we create, but the reason why I didn't put it at the top of the list is because there are many other socially complex animal species. Furthermore, the reason why humans can think on such a high, abstract level isn't because we have a higher brain capacity than other animals, or because somehow they are better, it's because in addition to the large brain/body mass ratio we have millenia of social "software" implanted in each one of us. There are plenty of animals who can think abstractly, can create works of art (albeit simple ones) such as other primates, and who feel intense emotions just as we do, and we aren't the only animals on the planet with self-awareness. Show a dog or a cat a mirror and they will not bark or hiss because they can tell it is themselves, which is a sure sign of self-awareness. We aren't even the best at problem solving. There are bird species that can solve puzzles with such a level of complexity that I am sometimes tempted to wonder if some humans wouldn't be stumped by it. 6. We don't have a mating season. As silly as this one sounds, it confers on us a massive advantage, because we can mate and have children at ANY time of the year, whereas most animals only mate during the spring or summer. 7. We also pass on the knowledge of one generation onto the next. This is quite possible the only reason why we, and not Neanderthals for example, survived and became as complex as we did. Think about it for a moment. Think about the amount of knowledge that YOU, even if you think you don't know anything at all, have in comparison to your average stone age person. Think about how huge a gap that is. In fact, most people from this time period would appear as gods to stone age man if they had gone back in time. We aren't more intelligent than stone age man, we have the advantage of THOUSANDS of years of knowledge behind us because we teach our children actively, rather than relying on them to figure everything out for themselves. 8. Complex form of spoken communication. For obvious reasons, this is an advantage. Think about how difficult it is to work with someone with whom you have no common language and you'll understand why it's on this list. 9. Domestication of Plants and Animals. Increases population growth, and the ability to have specialists. 10. Written language. This is at the bottom of the list mostly because there have been some intensely sohpisticated societies which have existed without it at all. For example, the Incas of Peru. They had no written language at all. The reason why it is on the list is because it further facilitates the spread of knowledge from one generation to the next, which is why when it was invented, the pace of history seemed to increase to much, at least in Eurasia. Spot the logical fallacy here, anyone? This is a list of everything about the human animal that, well, makes it special, or which has contributed to its dominance over the world. But if every single historical human event is less important than, well, the development of "opposable pinkies", then surely those developmental things actually aren't important after all? (Quick sidebar - that theory about pinkies is purest bunkum, as can be deduced by doing what Jaster says and picking up a cylindrical object without making use of the pinky finger. It's perfectly possible. The idea that the human pinky is distinctly more mobile and flextible than that of other primates is patently nonsensical). I'm sure Jaster thinks he's being very Earth-conscious when thinking in almost entirely evolutionary terms when describing what is "important", but in fact he demonstrates a peculiarly human-centric view. It's simply one viewpoint to say "History isn't important, none of it could have happened if we didn't have thumbs." It's perfectly true that our history couldn't happen, but where does it leave you? If humanity wasn't humanity we wouldn't be here to discuss the question, but neither would there be anything to discuss. I do think that a question like that has to have the Human Race - pinkies, speech, bipedalism, social interaction and all - as a given. Apart from anything else, Jaster has promoted the humanoid lifeform as being the only possible repository for civilisation, and that, surely, is fallacious. It's the only possible repository for being human beings, and that is important... only because we are all human beings! We have those characteristics listed, but some other planet may have a dominant sapient species with totally different characteristics. It's certainly going to far to give special mention to elements that might well have had no effect on our sapience and domination, such as the lack of a mating season, or that we are social animals. I think it's important to distinguish between distinct events that took humanity in a particular direction, and those things which were inevitable. The Discovery of America, for example, is of course of consuming interest to Americans - and consequently the whole world. But it was inevitable, and it just isn't likely to have happened before it did or after it did. The Discovery of America is not significant - the formation of the United States at the height of what has come to be known as the Enightenment, is. Creeping Death 08-04-06, 11:03 AM 1- Sinking Of The Titanic 2 -Atomic Bombs Dropped On Japan 3- The Holocaust 4- Rwanda Genocide 5- Bosnian Massacre 6- Attack On World Trade Centre 7- Earthquake In Turkey 8- Indonesian Tsunami 9- Bird Flu Epidemic 10- Police Arrest Me On Manslaughter Charges Genji 08-04-06, 06:32 PM 1- Sinking Of The Titanic 2 -Atomic Bombs Dropped On Japan 3- The Holocaust 4- Rwanda Genocide 5- Bosnian Massacre 6- Attack On World Trade Centre 7- Earthquake In Turkey 8- Indonesian Tsunami 9- Bird Flu Epidemic 10- Police Arrest Me On Manslaughter Charges Six of these are recent events. Not a history buff huh? Oniw17 08-05-06, 04:06 AM 1. The discovery of fire 2. The creation of spoken/writen language 3. The creation of mathematics in ancient Greece 4. The advances in mathematics in the midieval Ayyubid dynasty 5. The renaissance 6. The creation of atheism 7. The birth of Samuel Beckett 8. My birth 9. The philosophical teaching of Jesus, the Christ 10. The Odyssey being writen makeshift 08-05-06, 10:36 PM Remember, these should be events. Each event being unique in that they happened once. For example, WWI. That happened only once. Well, twice, but that was WW2 and a different event. Get my point? The discovery of fire didn't happen once. Same with the advent of written/spoken langauges. Agrarian revolution? G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-06-06, 06:17 AM 1- Sinking Of The Titanic 2 -Atomic Bombs Dropped On Japan 3- The Holocaust 4- Rwanda Genocide 5- Bosnian Massacre 6- Attack On World Trade Centre 7- Earthquake In Turkey 8- Indonesian Tsunami 9- Bird Flu Epidemic 10- Police Arrest Me On Manslaughter Charges You think that those ten things (excluding number 10 of course) are seriously the most important events in hundreds of thousands of years? Earthquake in fucking Turkey? Are you kidding? nicholas1M7 08-06-06, 01:52 PM 1. The Wheel 2. The Ice Age 3. Jesus Christ 4. Electricity 5. Moon landing 6. Holocaust 7. Industrial Revolution 8. Evolution 9. Relativity 10. Information at the speed of sound G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-06-06, 02:29 PM Speed of light, don't you mean? Information at the speed of sound would be me shouting at you that you're an idiot. nicholas1M7 08-06-06, 06:41 PM Ever heard of radiowaves? Cumface. G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-06-06, 07:33 PM Those travel at the speed of light, buttfag. Silas 08-07-06, 05:03 AM Speed of light, don't you mean? Information at the speed of sound would be me shouting at you that you're an idiot. That was as funny as f**k. But you do lose marks for saying "Are you kidding?" about Creeping Death's Ritalin-prescribed >1900-only list, - I think it's pretty obvious that he was. Oniw17 08-08-06, 12:45 AM Agrarian revolution? Oh shit, almost forgot that one,lol John_angry 08-10-06, 12:56 PM The creation of Israel - Laugh now but they will be the cause of a huge middle east war which will lead to WORLD WAR III and we will all be dead John_angry 08-10-06, 12:57 PM NO 1 - The invention of the femidom crazy151drinker 08-10-06, 01:34 PM 1. Vikings invade Paris...thus setting the trend where France surrenders to everyone... All other events can be traced to back to that. Kaiduorkhon 08-20-06, 10:05 PM Long ago in the orient a philosopher named Lao Tzu surmised that a butterfly zig zagging through the air in a garden caused effects in the air which would culminate into good and bad weather elsewhere, exactly depending on whether the butterfly zigged or zagged. A becalmed sea in the Horse Latitudes a century or more later, a hurricane through what is now known as the Florida peninusula etceteras, corroborating the exact moves of the butterfly in Lao Tzu's - or any other garden; or any event comparable to the cited influence of the subjected butterfly. There's a fairly recent book out now, entitled CHAOS (the title of which is frequently misinterpreted), which proves it. swivel 08-21-06, 07:45 AM (Ignoring the 5,000 BCE limit) Upright walking. Acquisition of language. Farming. Job specialization. Animal husbandry (especially the ox and horse). Metallurgy. Private ownership. Internal combustion engine. Democracy. Transistor. Kaiduorkhon 08-21-06, 10:56 AM umm, well I am an ignorant teen, Butterfly effect? Apologies in advance if this is a double post. Long ago in the orient a philosopher named Lao Tzu surmised that a butterfly zig zagging through the air in a garden caused effects in the air which would culminate into good and bad weather elsewhere, exactly depending on whether the butterfly zigged or zagged. A becalmed sea in the Horse Latitudes a century or more later, a hurricane through what is now known as the Florida peninusula etceteras, corroborating the exact moves of the butterfly in Lao Tzu's - or any other garden; or any event comparable to the cited influence of the subjected butterfly. There's a fairly recent book out now, entitled CHAOS (the title of which is frequently misinterpreted), which proves it. The Devil Inside 08-22-06, 05:50 AM There's a fairly recent book out now, entitled CHAOS (the title of which is frequently misinterpreted), which proves it. there have been several. the problem is finding a working model. G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-22-06, 06:47 AM (Ignoring the 5,000 BCE limit) Upright walking. Acquisition of language. Farming. Job specialization. Animal husbandry (especially the ox and horse). Metallurgy. Private ownership. Internal combustion engine. Democracy. Transistor. Someone's been playing Civ4.... swivel 08-22-06, 08:19 AM Someone's been playing Civ4.... Hehe. That was funny. I was actually a very big fan of the first Civilization game, but I thought different people made it now? I can only assume it has been dumbed down for the masses. Just mentioning it makes me want to fire up DOSbox and give that game, X-Com, and Master of Orion a whirl... Kaiduorkhon 08-22-06, 09:40 AM there have been several. the problem is finding a working model. Everything that occupys space and/or moves is a working model. G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-22-06, 11:05 AM Hehe. That was funny. I was actually a very big fan of the first Civilization game, but I thought different people made it now? I can only assume it has been dumbed down for the masses. Just mentioning it makes me want to fire up DOSbox and give that game, X-Com, and Master of Orion a whirl... X-Com ruled....I played it years ago, and then a few months ago I gave it a shot again....it was impossible....games are so easy these days....we've all been turned into pussies. original 08-28-06, 01:57 PM 1. Formation of the Milky Way Galaxy 2. Earth's progress to having an atmosphere that can sustain life 3. The evolution of organisms to the formation of homo sapiens 5. The ability to communicate using language 6. The life of Archimedes 7. The life of Isaac Newton 8. The discovery of petroleum 9. The discovery of nuclear energy 10. The partition of Palestine and the creation of the state of Israel. G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-28-06, 02:00 PM Human history, genius, i.e during the time that humans existed. ....and ranking number 10 in the same top ten as the creation of the galaxy? Oh my god that is just classic. original 08-28-06, 02:18 PM Don't get too offended at my interpretation of the topic, sir. I happen to think that human history extends beyond what we have recorded, and if you don't take the words "human history" to have a strict meaning, then the aforementioned things I listed are historical events, which contributed to human history. Also, do you think that the existence of Israel is meaningless? I could care less about the philosophical whispers, but the fact that it is likely to contribute to additional violence in the world makes it important. I didn't care to specify conflicts like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the American Civil War, or the World Wars, because it is obvious to me that they are important enough to not need attention. G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-28-06, 03:45 PM If you could care less then you obviously care some. I think you meant "Couldn't care less". "Likely to contribute to additional violence in the world"? Do you seriously think that you can put that within 10 points in the same list as "Our galaxy was created?" If so, you're an idiot. Something like that, on a list like that, would be at number 2,000,000,000 or so if that list was composed by anyone other than an unimaginable buffoon....and don't call someone "sir" when you really mean "you complete arse". original 08-28-06, 04:01 PM Go fuck yourself. G. F. Schleebenhorst 08-28-06, 04:16 PM Alright, and while I do I shall think of you. Michelle 10-18-06, 03:26 PM Not necessarily in order 1.the 9/11 2.the tsunami in Asia 3.the Bataan Death March in the Philippines 4.the Holocaust 5.the rise of Adolf Hitler 6.the death and resurrection of Jesus 7.the first man on the moon 8.the murder of Princess Diana 9.death of Pope John Paul 10.Britney Spears being labeled as "no talent,the world's worst voiced popstar" :) falcon22 10-21-06, 07:22 PM defeat of the Japanese by Korean Admiral Yi-Soon-Shin in the late 1590s (can't remember the exact date). If Japan won, all of Asia today would be under complete Japanese control. If that happened, Asia today would not be called Asia but "Japan." Imagine that. falcon22 10-21-06, 07:24 PM Manhattan project and the development of nuclear weapons. Changed international politics, war stretagies, and daily lives of everone in the world, especially in U.S. and Russia. G. F. Schleebenhorst 10-23-06, 04:57 PM That's one hell of an assumption falcon22. Empires don't always last. Prince_James 10-23-06, 06:46 PM 1. The invention of writing. 2. The Aryan invasions. 3. The Persian War 4. The life of Socrates 5. The life of Alexander the Great. 6. The ascent of Christianity 7. The fall of Rome 8. The life of Muhammad. 9. The signing of the Magna Carta. 10. The discovery of the New World by Columbus. Oniw17 10-23-06, 06:46 PM **don't always last 320 years** orcot 10-24-06, 06:20 AM 1. The invention of fire. (A future without fire would have been inpossible) 2. The disapearing of Neantherthales (imagen if there were more then 1 sentient species) 3. Agriculture (there wouldn't be any cities without it) 4. Taming of pets caddle horses (Lots of work used to be done by tamed animals) 5. Mathematica (Man started mapping the skies calenders where made... etc) 6. Religion (possible the first form of law) 7. Slavery (the ability for a group of people to do almost nothing has giving birth to many arts, like philosophy) 8. News papers (the interests of the world.) 9. Automatics (steam/oil engines) 10. Space travel G. F. Schleebenhorst 10-25-06, 07:26 AM Where are you from orcot? Chatha 01-03-07, 03:50 PM 1. The invention of writing. 2. The Aryan invasions. 3. The Persian War 4. The life of Socrates 5. The life of Alexander the Great. 6. The ascent of Christianity 7. The fall of Rome 8. The life of Muhammad. 9. The signing of the Magna Carta. 10. The discovery of the New World by Columbus. The aryan invasion isn't that important, persian war is a bit more paramount since it decided the fate of partitioning the turks and europe. Big fan of socrate but no way is he on this list. Alexander was a great man but does not deserve this list either. Recently saw the movie "apocalypto", the only thing columbus did was arriving just in time to prevent a native from being beheaded, life will move on without America. Chatha 01-03-07, 03:55 PM (Ignoring the 5,000 BCE limit) Upright walking. Acquisition of language. Farming. Job specialization. Animal husbandry (especially the ox and horse). Metallurgy. Private ownership. Internal combustion engine. Democracy. Transistor. You forgot to add television. TV is the single most important invention as far as i am concerned, its very influencial and informative. The internet is sort of following the same paradigm. In fact TV fosters two things on that list; language and democracy. Chatha 01-03-07, 03:59 PM 1. ancestors of man surviving the extinction of the dinosaur 2. the wheel 3. toolmaking 4. killing our food without physically touching it 5. Some of our ancestors getting out of Africa 6. discovering the pleasures of sex 7. questioning our place in the universe 8. discovery of contraception 9. reaping the spoils of war 10. building things that go boom You are in interesting fellow with perculiar assessments Sci-Phenomena 01-03-07, 05:41 PM Athena: ...from the rise of civilazation to present. What do you think? Good deal. We have these new fandangled computers, we've got some cars to help us get around without the need to have access to grass and water to feed the horses. We're getting pretty advanced these days, and I find it all extremely exciting! Prince_James 01-03-07, 07:13 PM Chatha: The Aryan invasions directly impacted languages spoken by over 2 billion people and the people they descended from. The Persian War decided the fate of Europe and Asia. Alexander the Great basically changed the shape of Greece, the Middle East, North Africa, and Central Asia. Socrates -founded philosophy-, basically. And Columbus opened the way for European inhabitation of the Americas. cpt.scruffy 01-03-07, 08:55 PM paper combustible compounds like gun powder wheel vision correction devices pencillin and similar drugs (although it may seem ironic in the future) ps i didnt think hard on this one. MySpace 01-07-07, 08:08 AM Alexander's campaign stopped when his troops refused to follow him any further. His conquering days were over.Alexander & Napolean both equally important, IMHO. MySpace 01-07-07, 08:09 AM defeat of the Japanese by Korean Admiral Yi-Soon-Shin in the late 1590s (can't remember the exact date). If Japan won, all of Asia today would be under complete Japanese control. If that happened, Asia today would not be called Asia but "Japan." Imagine that.How about US democratizing Japan & Korea? Search & Destroy 01-08-07, 10:11 AM Whatever the first 10 events in human history were, made the greatest impact. true or false iam 01-08-07, 10:55 AM death of genghis khan bombing of hiroshima vietnam war silk road constantine and the spread of christianity the fall of communism neo-confucian korea and china 12th century, stulted military growth. have to add later aligator original 06-02-07, 01:32 PM 1. Formation of the Milky Way Galaxy 2. Earth's progress to having an atmosphere that can sustain life 3. The evolution of organisms to the formation of homo sapiens 5. The ability to communicate using language 6. The life of Archimedes 7. The life of Isaac Newton 8. The discovery of petroleum 9. The discovery of nuclear energy 10. The partition of Palestine and the creation of the state of Israel. G.F. had a point... I should have written something like "space travel" for a more significant recent event. I may be breaking a commandment, but there is no Prince to reprimand me. Besides, this is a good topic. pjdude1219 06-03-07, 12:50 AM I don't know about number event but the polish russian war of the 1920 has to be up there because it prevent comunism from gaining a foot hold in europe (yes poland was behind the iron curtain domated by the ussr but that happened becuase the us and uk decieded to turn their backs on their ally poland and most countries did what ever theyt could to lessen solviet control and get out from behind the iron curtain) oh and for another big one the invention of the pointy stick Swany 04-06-10, 01:07 PM Well there are some interesting messages here. However, the single most important event was ......Believe it or not Cooking! 1.9 million years ago man discovered cooking increased the supply of calories. Our brains got bigger and the rest really is just history. fedr808 04-07-10, 07:59 AM The most important event is our evolution from throwing feces to throwing spears :p;):cool: Medicine*Woman 04-07-10, 04:01 PM Well there are some interesting messages here. However, the single most important event was ......Believe it or not Cooking! 1.9 million years ago man discovered cooking increased the supply of calories. Our brains got bigger and the rest really is just history. ************* M*W: Yes, and a picture of Rachael Ray is on a cave wall in France. Your point? Syzygys 04-07-10, 05:22 PM ...from the rise of civilazation to present. What do you think? #7: My birth. #9: My death. But only because I am modest.... Shadow1 04-08-10, 07:28 AM greek, roman, chinese, persian, indian, arabic( in a short word, cause arabic civilisation it self had alot of civilisatiosn in it, all arabs, but, like, different contries...), egyptian(all eras), in a short word, all civilsations had a really big affect on our present, without roman, or egyptian, there will be no arabs and persians, without arabs and persians, it want be there toaday as we know it now, also don't forget indiands, invented maths, and chinese, invented paper, spagetti(yes, not italien who inveted it) herbal medecins, tea, etc... and again, europe and effcorse, me lol cosmictraveler 04-08-10, 08:46 AM My mother and father.:) Shadow1 04-08-10, 10:21 AM my mother and father.:) :) . Syzygys 04-08-10, 10:38 AM My mother and father.:) Specially your mother, sweet, sexy little thing. :) Steven Genieus 04-09-10, 08:46 PM 1. birth of christ 2. descovery of penicilan 3. fructose sugar alternatives to sucrose sugars 4. radio transmition 5. the diesel engine designed by rudolf diesel 6. the cure for the flu 7. birth control pills 8. the discovery and flight to the moon 9. space travell 10. the discovery of humans Syzygys 04-10-10, 05:06 AM 10. the discovery of humans Wrong list. That is #3 on the Most important things in Alien history... Dywyddyr 04-10-10, 05:17 AM 1. birth of christ It's not been proved that he actually existed. 6. the cure for the flu A cure for the flu? When did that happen? 8. the discovery and flight to the moon Discovery of the moon? :rolleyes: 9. space travell How is that different from the flight to the Moon? 10. the discovery of humans Right, because nobody knew about humans until they were "discovered". By a lemur, wasn't it, in 1562? Kennyc 04-10-10, 05:59 AM Because of the butterfly effect, I cannot list anything. Hee-Hee! Kennyc 04-10-10, 06:16 AM First question is really when did "Civilization Start?" Are we there yet? Many interesting thoughts here though. Here's a couple of lists: http://top-10-list.org/2009/10/24/ten-most-important-history-events/ http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_were_the_10_most_important_events_in_world_hi story http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article2687623.ece Syzygys 04-10-10, 09:39 AM First question is really when did "Civilization Start?" When some lazy dude invented the wheel... cosmictraveler 04-10-10, 09:47 AM Specially your mother, sweet, sexy little thing. :) How well did you know mom anyway! :p Syzygys 04-11-10, 09:52 AM How well did you know mom anyway! :p Let's just say, you and me have a slight resemblance to each other... Jozen-Bo 04-11-10, 09:57 AM Because of the butterfly effect, I cannot list anything. Agreed! fedr808 04-11-10, 09:02 PM #7: My birth. #9: My death. But only because I am modest.... I hope no ones waiting on number 9.... fedr808 04-11-10, 09:03 PM It's not been proved that he actually existed. A cure for the flu? When did that happen? Discovery of the moon? :rolleyes: How is that different from the flight to the Moon? Right, because nobody knew about humans until they were "discovered". By a lemur, wasn't it, in 1562? I love that, discovery of humans. I guess thats the first human to stand up and say "hey mom, Im 4 feet taller than you and I don't throw feces, I must be a new species" MarkitScience 04-19-10, 12:18 PM after reading a lot of the responses i've come up with my list... here is my top 10, in no particular order: 1. invention of the printing press 2. WWII 3. colonization of the new world by europe 4. the fall of the berlin wall 5. birth of the internet 6. development of written languages 7. invention of the airplane 8. invention of gunpowder 9. death of jesus 10. US declaration of independence i noticed a lot of people including "ideas" and "concepts", rather than actual events. here is my top 10 list for those: 1. Newton's law of universal gravitation 2. Nicolas Copernicus' view of a heliocentric universe 3. Einstein's theory of relativity 4. Kepler's laws of planetary motion 5. Mendel's genetic laws of segregation and independent assortment 6. Pavlovian classical conditioning 7. Niels Bohr's understanding of the atomical structure 8. Darwin's theory of evolution 9. Kant's theory of perception 10. Big Bang Theory (originally proposed by Georges Lemaitre as his "hypothesis of the primeval atom") joepistole 04-19-10, 12:24 PM aren't my submissions within that time frame? or were you pointing that out for future posts? that is the reason I didn't say domesticating animals, or inventing fire, or the wheel. Those preceed the time period specified by the original posters. joepistole 04-19-10, 12:34 PM - Invention of the printing press - Industrial Revolution - Rise of Democracies - Invention of telecommunications - Invention of the computer - Creation of nuclear weapons - Creation of United Nations - Scientific Method - The Renaissance - Outer Space Travel flakeyairportchunks 04-21-10, 11:58 PM Well in terms of battles anyway then its easy, Battle of Salamis. soullust 04-25-10, 08:52 PM ...from the rise of civilization to present. What do you think? 1. the charter of human rights. http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=2&file=/C_12/C12_A.HTM 2. the end of the world wars. 3. the making of the united nations, and later NATO. 4.when women were giving the right to vote. 5. when black slavery was abolished in the USA. 6. the fall of the Berlin wall. 7. the founding of democracy. 8. when man kind todays man survived the last great ice age, even though the Neanderthal man perished. 9. when, the first big bomb was dropped, on a foreign land. 10. when Canada was formed as a nation.:D I know i may get bashed for number ten, lol But it is only me messing, i couldn't think of a tenth. octavian 04-02-11, 06:59 PM 1. Battle of the Delta-1178 BC between ancient Egypt and the Sea Peoples. First major naval battle, showed usefulness of ships in military combat 2. Trojan War- 12th century BC A war happened at this time though it was most likely not for the reasons the Iliad gave. The effect of this war was to unite the Greek people who had previously considered themselves Mycenaeans, Dorians, Ithakans, and other tribal identities into Hellenes, a single society. This society was the basis for much of western society 3. Expulsion of Tarquinius Superbus- 507 B.C This was the first time a king had been overthrown and replaced with something resembling a democracy. It also resulted in the founding of the Roman Republic, a form of government that is the basis of much of western society 4. Reforms of Solon- 6th and 7th century BC Birth of true democracy in Athens, all citizens (granted that that was a very limited class) could chose officials and those officials were accountable to them 5. Secessio Plebis-494 BC When the lower class plebs in Rome left the city and forced the patricians to create the position of tribune to protect their rights. Early and very effective example of strike/nonviolent protest 6. Proscription of 82- Sulla makes history by being the first in Roman history to deem his personal enemies "enemies of the state". Early non royal totalitarianism 7.Sulla's first Civil War- 88 BC. Sulla is first roman general to attack rome itself, proof that if you have a big enough army you can do whatever you want :) 8. Battle of Actium- 31 BC Augustus becomes first emperor of Rome yet using political power is able to appear as if he did not actually sieze power. Proof that perception and not reality is essential in acquiring political power, spawned use of the poets Ovid, Virgil, and Horace as propaganda. Not the first use of propaganda but effective nonetheless and memorable 9. Jesus- Christianity, regardless of whether it is legit or not is one of the most influential belief systems, causing crusades, the european christian identity, Roman catholic church, protestant reformation, the list goes on and on (Mohammed makes this list but the reasons are so similar im not writing it) 10. Christopher Columbus "discovers" america. While he was not the first to get there and he did nothing good while he was there, no one can deny that by making travel to the new world desirable, he had a massive effect on history octavian 04-02-11, 07:04 PM after reading a lot of the responses i've come up i noticed a lot of people including "ideas" and "concepts", rather than actual events. here is my top 10 list for those: 1. Newton's law of universal gravitation 2. Nicolas Copernicus' view of a heliocentric universe 3. Einstein's theory of relativity 4. Kepler's laws of planetary motion 5. Mendel's genetic laws of segregation and independent assortment 6. Pavlovian classical conditioning 7. Niels Bohr's understanding of the atomical structure 8. Darwin's theory of evolution 9. Kant's theory of perception 10. Big Bang Theory (originally proposed by Georges Lemaitre as his "hypothesis of the primeval atom") invention of 0 democracy monarchy communism nationalism fascism christianity Islam (NO judaisim, not enuff peeple to have such a huge effect on history and while israel is important for the present, in the grand scheme of things it is not SUPER important especially when compared to the invention of democracy octavian 04-02-11, 07:08 PM 1. The invention of writing. 2. The Aryan invasions. 3. The Persian War 4. The life of Socrates 5. The life of Alexander the Great. 6. The ascent of Christianity 7. The fall of Rome 8. The life of Muhammad. 9. The signing of the Magna Carta. 10. The discovery of the New World by Columbus. Socrates? really? also to which persian war do you refer. And do not respond the greek one, there were 2 of those also rise of rome Dywyddyr 04-02-11, 07:10 PM Er, that post is 5 years old. And the guy hasn't been here at all for 3 of them. ;) chimpkin 04-02-11, 07:53 PM This thread...was dead...now it's moving! http://www.best-horror-movies.com/images/shaun-of-the-dead-zombie-group.jpg (Zombie thread wants brains.) Did anybody mention the inventions? 1 agriculture 2. stone tools 3. bronze 4. steel 5.domestication of the horse 6. the wheel 7. Wind-powered vessels 8. Pastoralism 9. Writing(!) 10. projectile(hand) weapons keith1 04-02-11, 09:17 PM All recent events: Discovery of the Cosmic Microwave Background Discovery of Dark Energy/Dark Matter Discovery Of Space Expansion/Inflationary Theory Discovery of Galaxy dynamics/Black Holes Discovery of Exoplanets Manned mission to the Moon Discovery of Atom/Electronics Artificial Heart Valve Discovery of Rock and Roll Music Stock Market Crash 2008 John99 04-03-11, 02:52 AM i'm gonna add some for the future: Elimination of paper Elimination of paper money Swipe cards for payment Everyone is bar coded Numbered your number can be on your card. dont think it has to be physically on you. it will be a good system. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoPaperFuture http://economics.about.com/od/moneyandthemoneysupply/a/future_of_money.htm Shadow1 04-03-11, 05:19 PM the greek empire the islamic empire the chinese empire the persian empire the invention of the zero the invention or writing and reading the invention of maths and counting and etc... the invention of the wheel the invention of agriculture there's no to 10 events............ inless you mean the video games and coca cola octavian 04-03-11, 06:24 PM Not necessarily in order 1.the 9/11 2.the tsunami in Asia 3.the Bataan Death March in the Philippines 4.the Holocaust 5.the rise of Adolf Hitler 6.the death and resurrection of Jesus 7.the first man on the moon 8.the murder of Princess Diana 9.death of Pope John Paul 10.Britney Spears being labeled as "no talent,the world's worst voiced popstar" :) I hope that this is a joke. Princess Diana wasn't murdered. Also just dear god no octavian 04-03-11, 06:35 PM 11. Gutenbergs invention of the printing press 12. Protestant reformation 13. Spread of Islam in the middle ages 14. Renaissance ( I know its a time period but still) 15. Scientific revolution (in 1600s) 16. Enlightenment 17. French and Indian War (set backdrop for revolution, eliminated french presence in North america, broke the power of the Iroquois Confederacy, set the precedent for unchecked British and later American westward expansion resulting in the marginalization and basically the elimination of the native americans as a political force) 18. Introduction of Black slavery in the new world (shaped america and race relations) 19. English Civil War (showed that a king could be killed, kings in england held in check by parliament) 20. American Revolution (created america, first legitimate independent European style country in the new world. Inspired french revolution with ideals as well as providing economic reasons for it) 21. Mongol expansion in the 13th century (considered to be the first legit world war, blend of mongol and chinese culture, cultural sharing between east and west, marco polo, importance of cavalry in warfare) 22. American Civil War 23. Industrial revolution 24. Napoleonic Wars 25. WW I 26. WW II 27. Alexander the Greats conquest 28. Cold war 29. Glorious revolution in England 30. French revolution Honeyb35 04-08-11, 06:59 AM . Evolution of Homo Sapiens Sapiens. 2. Start of Civilization in Sumer. 3. Egypt's contribution to mathematics and Geometry. 4. The rise of Ancient Greece and philosophy, the foundation for science. 5. The Creation of the Rome, which was the foundation for Western society. 6. The unification of Ancient China. They also contributed in the sciences, such as gunpowder. 7. The Renaissance, the resurrection of Classical ideas, arts, and sciences. 8. Age of Reason, the great leap for the sciences. 9. World War 2, which changed the awareness and consciousness of the world forever. 10. Quantum Mechanics. It explained our existence, and is the scientific proof for Idealism, which means reality depends on perception. Dywyddyr 04-08-11, 09:22 AM 10. Quantum Mechanics. It explained our existence, and is the scientific proof for Idealism, which means reality depends on perception. No it doesn't. NCDane 04-09-11, 07:52 PM IMO there have been so many important developments that in choosing lists of the top 10 most important it makes most sense to allow 10 for each of many eras. Era #1 PREHISTORY In approximate speculated order of appearance: Discovery, invention, control, development of: Tools Fire Superstition (negative value, includes religion) Art Engineering Seafaring Domestication of animals Agriculture Textiles Urbanization EDIT: I forgot metallurgy which I believe began in prehistory. The best way to include it with the least alteration to 1-10 already listed might be to drop seafaring with the understanding it might be considered a form of engineering. NCDane 04-09-11, 09:07 PM Era #2 RECORDED HISTORY TO 1 AD: Discovery, invention, development of: 1. Writing 2. Math 3. Philosophy Rise, development of civilizations of: 4. Egypt 5. Babylon 6. China 7. India 8. Phoenicia 9. Greece 10. Rome SciWriter 04-09-11, 09:34 PM 0. Stuff forms. 1. Evolution to human mammal sapience. 2. Everything that then goes on. 3. The universe thins out and ends. 4. Stuff forms somewhere. Fraggle Rocker 04-11-11, 02:26 PM I forgot metallurgy which I believe began in prehistory.That's because bronze (an alloy of copper and tin, two ores that could be smelted at the temperatures achievable in the ovens of Stone Age cities) metallurgy is the key technology that made the next Paradigm Shift possible, and why we call that P.S. the Bronze Age. The strength and precision of metal tools greatly increased the productivity of human labor and the variety, durability and quality of the things that it can produce. As a result the amount of surplus wealth or "capital" increased to the point that it was measurable and required management. Inventories, goods in transit, stocks of raw materials, luxury goods... the proliferation of these products and their involvement in multi-path time-displaced transactions among multiple strangers made it mandatory for people to begin keeping records. The earliest records found are indeed those of merchants and traders, not kings and priests. Hash marks (the familiar one-two-three-four-diagonal-cross-five and variations on it) comprised the first primitive attempts at what we now call writing. Eventually these evolved into more complicated pictorial symbols that could be used to record speech. The pictograms (each symbol represents a thing or idea) evolved into logograms (each symbol represents a specific word), and in some (but not all) cultures the logograms evolved into phonetic symbols--alphabets (like ours), abjads (like Hebrew and Egyptian), abugidas (like most Indian languages), syllabaries (like Japanese). The point is that writing could not be developed until there was a need for it, and there was no need for it until the Bronze Age made life too complicated for people to carry large numbers around in their heads. So the Bronze Age marks the end of prehistory and the beginning of history. Me-Ki-Gal 04-11-11, 02:50 PM That's because bronze (an alloy of copper and tin, two ores that could be smelted at the temperatures achievable in the ovens of Stone Age cities) metallurgy is the key technology that made the next Paradigm Shift possible, and why we call that P.S. the Bronze Age. The strength and precision of metal tools greatly increased the productivity of human labor and the variety, durability and quality of the things that it can produce. As a result the amount of surplus wealth or "capital" increased to the point that it was measurable and required management. Inventories, goods in transit, stocks of raw materials, luxury goods... the proliferation of these products and their involvement in multi-path time-displaced transactions among multiple strangers made it mandatory for people to begin keeping records. The earliest records found are indeed those of merchants and traders, not kings and priests. Hash marks (the familiar one-two-three-four-diagonal-cross-five and variations on it) comprised the first primitive attempts at what we now call writing. Eventually these evolved into more complicated pictorial symbols that could be used to record speech. The pictograms (each symbol represents a thing or idea) evolved into logograms (each symbol represents a specific word), and in some (but not all) cultures the logograms evolved into phonetic symbols--alphabets (like ours), abjads (like Hebrew and Egyptian), abugidas (like most Indian languages), syllabaries (like Japanese). The point is that writing could not be developed until there was a need for it, and there was no need for it until the Bronze Age made life too complicated for people to carry large numbers around in their heads. So the Bronze Age marks the end of prehistory and the beginning of history. Yeah Baby the baggage of language goes back a ways. E use to be house you know . That is the symbol for House . Yeah . That is how I learned it anyway. I don't know the root language it came from? Maybe from Ur ? Me-Ki-Gal 04-11-11, 03:02 PM It is hard to pick out 10 with so many event changing things already posted . I would say Peace of Westphalia rates at the top , For I believe it set the stage for extreme expansionism in the America's . The number one thing I think comes from before the parameters of the thread . Agriculture and animal husbandry by far changed everything and displaced many at the same time. Yeah way!! I found that very interesting what Fraggle said about dogs . That may be true if you think about how a dog acts . You all know what dog spells backwards ? Hum . You know how it says the rejected stone will be the cornerstone . Hmmm. Is dog smarter than Man? Hum ? Free food, free place to sleep , Can poop and pee in public with out getting arrested. Can dry hump a persons leg and people will laugh and say " How cute is that " I think they out smarted us awesomeppl 04-18-11, 02:52 PM Ok so here's the dealyoh... I needed 10 "important time event things" for my World History class and here's what i got.... 10.)Writing- ok i totally agree on that one it is pretty dang important. 9.)Nukes invented- ok so it helped out in WWII so i still agree. 8.)Farmin-ok so yeah we need food so thats good. 7.)Fire- great idea! 6.)Wheels!!- ok im a lazy person so yea i need another way then just walkin 5.)The toilet!- um i would not be going around in the middle of the night to take a pee! in the grass...so thank you! 4.)9-11- i dont know what to say but it's deffinetly important! 3.)Cell phones!!- where would i be today with out my cell phone!!?? 2.) eurpean settlement of th enew world- where would we be? thats supper important! and last and my least favorite thing.... 1.)Mathmatics- ok so we need it big deal...i still hate it but just so you all know.....you will be usin it at somepoint in time.... I'm bored now so ill sign of....BYE!!!! |