These are a few verses from the 9th Surah that I want you to read, The link to read the entire chapter will be at the bottom it is a long surah.


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009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

009.031 They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
009.007 How can there be a league, before God and His Apostle, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God doth love the righteous.
009.008 How (can there be such a league), seeing that if they get an advantage over you, they respect not in you the ties either of kinship or of covenant? With (fair words from) their mouths they entice you, but their hearts are averse from you; and most of them are rebellious and wicked.

009.009 The Signs of God have they sold for a miserable price, and (many) have they hindered from His way: evil indeed are the deeds they have done.

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Remember who your loyalty lies with, Taking the unbelievers who mock god and his followers as your companions. You are people of the book and I should try to guide you onto the straight path, If I were to leave you hanging it would be my fault and my sin, I wasn't debating you before to mock you I respect you as a believer but I think you have been miss-guided so I am trying to help.


Peace.

Hey guys!
The crackpot is back.

Edit: sorry. One of the crackpots is back.

This pot is more than cracked, hes smashed to pieces.

Thanks EFOC. I have seen the light.

Thanks EFOC. I have seen the light.It does show rather well through the cracks, doesn't it?

There is no evidence that Jews say such a thing.

On the other hand, Muslims believe in Jinns, which would be gods in, for instance, Shinto, so Islam is still polytheistic.

LOL incomming BAN!!!!! i believe this qualifies as preaching why the hell woud you post this EFC expecially after being banned 3 times for the same thing.... are you really that slow?

Members, please address the question at hand, is that so hard?

LOL incomming BAN!!!!! i believe this qualifies as preaching why the hell woud you post this EFC expecially after being banned 3 times for the same thing.... are you really that slow?

He is "enlightened"

He posted it because, according to his book, believers shouldn't make friends with, or stick up for, unbelievers.
And Shogun jumped into the "What do atheists teach their kids" thread in defence of my point of view.
According to Chi not one single theist on my friends list is a "true believer": if they were they'd not talk to to me. :D

What question. He made a statement.

he posted it because, according to his book, believers shouldn't make friends with, or stick up for, unbelievers.
And shogun jumped into the "what do atheists teach their kids" thread in defence of my point of view.
According to chi not one single theist on my friends list is a "true believer": If they were they'd not talk to to me. :d

l o l

I think the basic question is one of Chi's sanity.

I think the basic question is one of Chi's sanity.

right, so i guess we better STFU.

There is no evidence that Jews say such a thing.

On the other hand, Muslims believe in Jinns, which would be gods in, for instance, Shinto, so Islam is still polytheistic.


Jinn's are a creation of god according to the Quran, Just because a creation has certain ability's it does not qualify them to be "God's"

If you follow this logic then are (in your eyes) Angels not "Gods" The Jinn are just another creation.

Jinn's are a creation of god according to the Quran, Just because a creation has certain ability's it does not qualify them to be "God's"

If you follow this logic then are (in your eyes) Angels not "Gods" The Jinn are just another creation.

That's actually true. Christianity is also polytheism.

I think the basic question is one of Chi's sanity.

Mhm, you have for years questioned my sanity as many other unbelievers have called me "Crazy".
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So let me ask this, is this how how you treat the "Mentally challenged"? You mock them?.

The last thing I would do to a (for example) "Bi polar" or maybe a "schitzophrenic" or any over sub class of somebody with a form of retardation would be to mock them, instead I would kindly offer help.

Jinn's are a creation of god according to the Quran, Just because a creation has certain ability's it does not qualify them to be "God's"

If you follow this logic then are (in your eyes) Angels not "Gods" The Jinn are just another creation.

Did people believe in them before monotheism?

And besides, there is no evidence that Jews thought Ezra was a god.

Mhm, you have for years questioned my sanity as many other unbelievers have called me "Crazy".
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So let me ask this, is this how how you treat the "Mentally challenged"? You mock them?.

The last thing I would do to a (for example) "Bi polar" or maybe a "schitzophrenic" or any over sub class of somebody with a form of retardation would be to mock them, instead I would kindly offer help.

Yes. I'm sorry on behalf of the entire atheist community. Please see a doctor. There's something wrong with you.

Mhm, you have for years questioned my sanity as many other unbelievers have called me "Crazy".
Many years?
Evidence please.


So let me ask this, is this how how you treat the "Mentally challenged"? You mock them?
It depends.
The truly "mentally challenged" I don't mock. The arrogant bigoted ones I do.


The last thing I would do to a (for example) "Bi polar" or maybe a "schitzophrenic" or any over sub class of somebody with a form of retardation was to do anything but be kind and try to offer my help.
The same way you "help" believers of other religions by mocking/ denying their prophets?

Did people believe in them before monotheism?

And besides, there is no evidence that Jews thought Ezra was a god.


Go and look it up for yourself I am not sure.


Well according to the Quran at the time of it being revealed certain jews did believe he was. I wasn't around back then.

This pot is more than cracked, hes smashed to pieces.

His brainwaves appear to fall far short of the beach.

Many years?
Evidence please.


It depends.
The truly "mentally challenged" I don't mock. The arrogant bigoted ones I do.


The same way you "help" believers of other religions by mocking/ denying their prophets?



You expect me to go through years worth of archives to digg out any random times you called me crazy?. and a "Woo Woo" when you know full well you have done in the past. (Diss-honesty)




Well you question my sanity so you obviously have suspicion right now that i might indeed be Loopy yes you mock me.


I refute Joseph smith as being a real prophet yes I do after reading the story of the Golden Tablets I am confident he was a bullshit merchant. Are you saying you believe he was the "Real Deal" ?

Go and look it up for yourself I am not sure.


Well according to the Quran at the time of it being revealed certain jews did believe he was. I wasn't around back then.

So the Quran is somehow a more trustworthy source then an ACTUAL Jew?

Yah have some screwed up priorities.

I'll tell you what this argument is:

http://www.sciforums.com/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=865

LOL incomming BAN!!!!! i believe this qualifies as preaching why the hell woud you post this EFC expecially after being banned 3 times for the same thing.... are you really that slow?

So Where in the rules does it state im not allowed to quote a few Verses of scripture and then apply them into a real life message for somebody? with a relevant point.

So the Quran is somehow a more trustworthy source then an ACTUAL Jew?

Yah have some screwed up priorities.

We all know the Quran (like other well known magic books) is infallible. Who are you to question this? Are you insane?

So the Quran is somehow a more trustworthy source then an ACTUAL Jew?

Yah have some screwed up priorities.


You mean an actual jew like for instance myself? and the quran is refering to people of it's time that's not saying there are still jewish and kabalah sects who still hold this view today in the year 2011.

You expect me to go through years worth of archives to digg out any random times you called me crazy?. and a "Woo Woo" when you know full well you have done in the past. (Diss-honesty)
You made the claim.
You stated that I have questioned your sanity "for years".
I don't dispute I may have made remarks over the last few months or so (possibly even approaching a full year), but "years"? Nah. (Bearing in mind also that I registered just under two years ago...)


Well you question my sanity so you obviously have suspicion right now that i might indeed be Loopy yes you mock me.
Strangely I don't think you are "loopy" (in the medical sense). Just an arrogant bigot with weird beliefs.


I refute Joseph smith as being a real prophet yes I do after reading the story of the Golden Tablets I am confident he was a bullshit merchant. Are you saying you believe he was the "Real Deal" ?
I'm saying, as I have said before, that you tend to be selective on who you consider to be a prophet. And that in doing so you are disparaging someone else's religion.
I, at least, am consistent with regard to that.

You mean an actual jew like for instance myself? and the quran is refering to people of it's time that's not saying there are still jewish and kabalah sects who still hold this view today in the year 2011.

Your a Jew? Really?

There were never Jewish sects that upheld that view for significant periods of time, I think I would know.

I find it hard to believe your Jewish. Actually, I'm almost positive your not.

You made the claim.
You stated that I have questioned your sanity "for years".
I don't dispute I may have made remarks over the last few months or so (possibly even approaching a full year), but "years"? Nah. (Bearing in mind also that I registered just under two years ago...)


Strangely I don't think you are "loopy" (in the medical sense). Just an arrogant bigot with weird beliefs.


I'm saying, as I have said before, that you tend to be selective on who you consider to be a prophet. And that in doing so you are disparaging someone else's religion.
I, at least, am consistent with regard to that.




Ok that is a fair point and it might not be many "years" but i think it is over 1 year atleast.


Yeah this is also a fair point that i won't deny, Bigoted yes, arrogant in my belief is the truth yes, wierd beliefs i do not think it is wierd.


I am selective ofcourse as Prophethood is no light matter it sways millions, Many false prophets use god to gain followers. and yes im well aware you can just turn around and say "Well look at Islam that fits the bill"


Peace.

Your a Jew? Really?

There were never Jewish sects that upheld that view for significant periods of time, I think I would know.

I find it hard to believe your Jewish. Actually, I'm almost positive your not.

.................................................. ..... I am a jew.

Yes. I'm sorry on behalf of the entire atheist community. Please see a doctor. There's something wrong with you.

See now this is what somebody should say if they see me as crazy. ^


peace.

.................................................. ..... I am a jew.

Tell Me about the temple . Explain the candlestick and the show bread. The other names of the sanctuary. Just joking , I believe you Chi. You know I do think of you as a friend even though we have never met in person . If you come to Missoula ever call Me . I will take you fishing for big trout and we can eatem right there at the bank . Fish line to fry pan unless you want to eat yours raw. In light of that would you exile Me and not let Me in the Great House.

Call Me will do lunch

Tell Me about the temple . Explain the candlestick and the show bread. The other names of the sanctuary.

More importatantly. Tell us about jew magic. I hear it has many potent abilities. What spells can you cast?

Tell Me about the temple . Explain the candlestick and the show bread. The other names of the sanctuary. Just joking , I believe you Chi. You know I do think of you as a friend even though we have never met in person . If you come to Missoula ever call Me . I will take you fishing for big trout and we can eatem right there at the bank . Fish line to fry pan unless you want to eat yours raw. In light of that would you exile Me and not let Me in the Great House.

Call Me will do lunch



!!! I like fishing but im a vegetarian lol I do eat meat when I have to though, like when i go camping I hunt and eat meat.

I love cooking on open fires it's the best, and about the jew stuff lol MY family are so westernized Hardly anyone in my family still obey the torah. I even have had many disputes with them over this i demand they follow the laws and I make sure I teach all my cousins that they are jews, Nobody in my family directly challenges me when I do this, we have a few little disputes over it but they be quiet in the end about it and let me teach all the kids.

Mt gandfather knows what I say to all the family members is right and he gave me permission to lead the family in teaching the young ones.

peace.

More importatantly. Tell us about jew magic. I hear it has many potent abilities. What spells can you cast?

Go ask David blane.

More importatantly. Tell us about jew magic. I hear it has many potent abilities. What spells can you cast?
I can change the will of people with words . That is my best gift . I can subjugate hostility too . Subjugating hostility is what I learned from being a builder. I didn't learn changing peoples mind from Jewish Magic either. I learned it from my Haitian friend who lives in Delmas 33. I also learned it from a black foot man who gave Me a red stone in the parking lot of Albertsons. It only took him 5 minutes to give Me the rock and say a few words , but at that very moment my reality changed and now at a glance I can see intent in peoples souls when face to face . You can replace the soul with mind if you are an atheist. Now I have always done things by ritual behavior, but it is more of a way to cement commitment then it is to alter realities . The cementing of commitment makes the directive more achievable by the follow up that comes from committing ones self to the directive. Kind of like the ritual of marriage is suppose to be. Where you make a commitment to your wife and then you work on being like minded . 2 joined as 1 so to speak

Cool story bro

Cool story bro

You dont know how to tackle what he said do you lol

You dont know how to tackle what he said do you lol

It didn't really make sense to me. :shrug:

MKG rarely does make sense.

It didn't really make sense to me. :shrug:

Thats a shame . I think on some level of your humanity you get the jest of what I said . If you got a wife she should be your best friend if she is not . That is my personal opinion. Whether she has a religious faith our not . Everybody has a belief system. You can't get out of bed if you don't send a signal down to your legs to get out of bed. Actually you can't stand up with out moving your head first. Try it . Pay attention now . Ah I saw your head move , don't be trying to fool your self now

It didn't really make sense to me. :shrug:



Lol I could tell, he is a very interesting poster.


peace.

MKG rarely does make sense.

Yes because you have to be emotionaly intelligent to understand him not book smart.

Something you dont have.

You actualy have the emotional intelligence of a half eaten cheeseburger, for all your books smarts you cant even understand something like love.

Thats a shame . I think on some level of your humanity you get the jest of what I said . If you got a wife she should be your best friend if she is not . That is my personal opinion. Whether she has a religious faith our not . Everybody has a belief system. You can't get out of bed if you don't send a signal down to your legs to get out of bed. Actually you can't stand up with out moving your head first. Try it . Pay attention now . Ah I saw your head move , don't be trying to fool your self now

It is a touching poem.

Efoc;
لا ينهاكم الله عن الذين لم يقاتلوكم في الدين و لم يخرجوكم من دياركم ان تبروهم و تقسطوا اليهم...