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Mr.Spock
06-08-07, 07:29 PM
Is it true that Muslims who convert to atheism or any other religion are executed?

EmptyForceOfChi
06-08-07, 07:35 PM
not that i knew of, maybe by extreamist factions like the taliban,

peace.

sandy
06-08-07, 08:28 PM
From what I've read and been told those who turn their back on Islam are to be put to death. This is confirmed by the words and deeds of Muhammad.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.htm

Mr.Spock
06-08-07, 08:31 PM
From what I've read and been told those who turn their back on Islam are to be put to death. This is confirmed by the words and deeds of Muhammad.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.htm

your link isnt working :(

Oli
06-08-07, 08:35 PM
From what I've read and been told those who turn their back on Islam are to be put to death. This is confirmed by the words and deeds of Muhammad.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.htm

Oh yes, back onto THAT site again. :rolleyes:

Mr.Spock
06-08-07, 08:38 PM
Oh yes, back onto THAT site again. :rolleyes:

this is why im asking:


The Muslims who become atheist will be executed insha'Allah according to the majority belief amongst Muslims.

I'm going soon so I can't discuss this further.

sandy
06-08-07, 09:01 PM
Oh yes, back onto THAT site again. :rolleyes:

What's the matter? The truth too much for you? Did you read the whole thing? It's an education and a half.

Oli
06-08-07, 09:05 PM
Education?
It's the equivalent of satanists picking all the bits out the bible that you wouldn't like highlighted and quoting it as gospel.
The only way that's educational is that I learned people are stupid enough to believe it.

Mr.Spock
06-08-07, 09:11 PM
The only way that's educational is that I learned people are stupid enough to believe it.
thats ambiguous.

sandy
06-08-07, 09:13 PM
Point out ONE thing that is not correct. You can't. It's the most credible, reliable, up-to-date site.

Oli
06-08-07, 09:32 PM
thats ambiguous.

D'accord.


Point out ONE thing that is not correct. You can't. It's the most credible, reliable, up-to-date site.

Exactly like the Evil Bible site. I concur. It's what I said.
The truth about christianity:
http://www.evilbible.com/

Typical quote:


"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Death to unbelievers! Allahu Akbar! Oh wait, that's not Allah, that's YOUR god.

sandy
06-08-07, 09:40 PM
We're not talking about Christianity. We're talking about muslims. And why are you defending their killing traitors/non-believers:confused:

There are thousands of stories on hundreds of sites. One of today's has a woman facing jail if she does not reconvert to Islam. :mad:

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/5340

Here's another one about Islamists hunting Christians who converted from Islam.
http://www.aina.org/news/20070605113218.htm

Want more? I have HUNDREDS.:(

Oli
06-08-07, 09:45 PM
Yep.
We're talking about a religion and its intolerance of other religions.

Look at this way: if true (and one of those links is about Al Quaeda - rabidly fundamentalist), maybe they're just more observant of their holy book than christians. After all christians tend to ignore the bits they don't want to believe...

Medicine*Woman
06-08-07, 10:37 PM
thats because you dont consider atheism to be a form of religion. nevertheless, care to answer the question?

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M*W: Muslims who convert to atheism are not executed. I know some of them.

John99
06-08-07, 10:53 PM
Sure it happens, but you can get killed rooting the wrong team in sports.

Mr.Spock
06-08-07, 11:12 PM
Sure it happens, but you can get killed rooting the wrong team in sports.

that almost happen to my dad once.

SkinWalker
06-08-07, 11:27 PM
It *does* depend on the nation that the Muslim is living in. If it is Saudi Arabia or Malaysia or any of the other theocracies, the penalty for apostacy can include death. Apostacy includes converting to atheism or any other religion. However, there are cases where the apostate was simply jailed or sent to reform camps.

In other nations where Islam is present such as democracies like the U.S. or France, apostates aren't legally bound to adhere to their superstitions, but there is a surprising amount of idiocy that occurs when officials of these nations are slow to react to illegal actions such as spousal and child abuse related to Islamic beliefs. In some cases, apostates and converts are allowed to be kidnapped by family members and sent back to their oppressive theocracies for "reform" or punishment.

Interestingly enough, this is exactly the type of theocratic, fundamentalist B.S. that some superstitious followers of Christianity would like to institute in the United States.

Michael
06-09-07, 02:52 AM
Is it true that Muslims who convert to atheism or any other religion are executed?My good friend Reza said that if he told people in his home town in Iran that has was Atheist - there could be a good chance one of them would kill him.

Then again, I wouldn't tell too many people in the South of the USA as the same fate may await an Atheist there too!

Sciencelovah
06-09-07, 06:39 AM
Is it true that Muslims who convert to atheism or any other religion are executed?


in Indonesia where moslem are majority, it does not applied. However, in
Aceh, a special province in Indonesia where Islam rule is applied as law,
it could be applied if someone openly do it.

As far as I know, in Islam apostacy do not cause execution. However
apostacy is counted as 1 of 5 unforgiveable sins. Means, moslems believe
that when they do any kind of sin, it could be forgiven, but when they die in
apostacy condition, there is no chance they be forgiven.

Baron Max
06-09-07, 07:04 AM
Muslims who convert to atheism are not executed. I know some of them.

Maybe they just haven't been executed ...YET.

Baron Max

sandy
06-09-07, 08:44 AM
....
Interestingly enough, this is exactly the type of theocratic, fundamentalist B.S. that some superstitious followers of Christianity would like to institute in the United States.

One could only hope and dream. But we would never threaten a fellow Christian with murder. Only hell. We would never treat the women like pigs. We honor women. We would never saw off someone's head. Nor would we behave like animals. We would be the cream of the crop of the earth.

If this country returned to Christianity like it was before we got so PC, it would be a much more awesome place. But it will never happen. The muslims are in and they're not going away.

Zephyr
06-09-07, 09:38 AM
We honor women.
I can see it already . . . a statue, barefoot and pregnant, next to a stove.

Nickelodeon
06-09-07, 09:39 AM
If this country returned to Christianity like it was before we got so PC
When was that?