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Xerxes
07-26-09, 11:50 PM
I'm looking for a song. Heard it once about 10years ago... I think the song is Egyptian and it's sung by a female. It's very upbeat and goes 'willy willy.... willy willy, willy willy halaaaaaaaaaa with lots of female arabic tongue rolling sounds. Those are the only clues I can provide, unfortunately.

-thanks

parmalee
07-27-09, 08:48 AM
I'm looking for a song. Heard it once about 10years ago... I think the song is Egyptian and it's sung by a female. It's very upbeat and goes 'willy willy.... willy willy, willy willy halaaaaaaaaaa with lots of female arabic tongue rolling sounds. Those are the only clues I can provide, unfortunately.

-thanks
I know you said that those are the "only clues," but can you possibly place the era of the piece? Egyptian and female: first person who comes to my mind is, of course, Oum Khoultoum; but that ("willy willy.... willy willy, willy willy halaaaaaaaaaa") sure as hell doesn't sound like Khoultoum.

hypewaders
07-27-09, 09:33 AM
Waleeeeeih- Shu Biddak? Wuleeeeeah? Ha'la? :D

If it had been Fairouz ya9neh, I might have recognized it.

Try surfing around Rotana (http://www.rotana.net/) a while and you might happen on it. Unfortunately, the first "wave" of Arab-pop is obliterating the era you're interested in, in most current promotion and programming. Listen to internet radio streams from the mideast (http://www.arab.de/arab-radio.html), and rays of bright sunlight will peek out occasionally (do I sound musically disgruntled?). That may be your best bet, if nobody here recognizes it. Maybe if you will record something and post a link so we can hear you (!)

When I try to replay what I listened to, or was captivated by in Beirut in the 80s (filtering out the normal world-pop and world-retro music background that everyone hears everywhere) the most amazing and beautiful things I had ever heard keep getting harder for me to find- just like some states of mind when you've lived places. Part of getting out of touch on many levels.

If you rewind just a few years, Arab kids and their parents adored the same music. Consequently they shared a lot of mutual fun and understanding. If you have ever been so lucky as to live in such a place for one hour, cherish it forever along with the music.

Sometimes, I'm afraid something's dying. :bawl:

Orleander
07-27-09, 09:35 AM
this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq6OoPB5FIM&feature=PlayList&p=26D0B4A26EAE4F09&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=37) is the only song I know that might be considered Arab pop, but I don't think it is. :o

hypewaders
07-27-09, 09:39 AM
Lawdy Mercy :puke: :facepalm:

I'm sorry, I'm not a normally violent person, but I must kill you now.

Orleander
07-27-09, 09:42 AM
Lord, have mercy :puke: :facepalm:

hey, its about the only exposure to middle eastern music most Americans have had. If it has Allah in it, it must be arabic. sad but true :shrug:

hypewaders
07-27-09, 09:44 AM
I can't hear or read you. I have torn off my ears and gouged out my eyes. I can still post though. Shukran, Mavis Beacon. I'll try to stay on topic.

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 09:47 AM
Is it Noor Shimal's weli weli?

http://www.maqam.com/store/p/979-Where-Africa-Meets-the-Orient.html#Samples

Click on "Preview" to hear a sample/

hypewaders
07-27-09, 09:50 AM
Gouging out the eyes was a mistake. I bet Sam's posting something good right about now, like a light through the storm.

Orleander
07-27-09, 09:52 AM
thanks for the link sam.

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 10:09 AM
Its the only one I could think of.

cosmictraveler
07-27-09, 10:41 AM
The only one I have heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLB15kBvn_c

Orleander
07-27-09, 10:43 AM
LOL, I forgot about that one.

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 10:45 AM
The newer songs are more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJwrK_1wRA

Orleander
07-27-09, 10:47 AM
The newer songs are more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJwrK_1wRA


now that one I like. I can why it would be popular

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 10:57 AM
Here's a Syrian one for Norse :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-c99f76qbc

Then you have the ones which the Indians like so much they make covers for Bollywood movies

Ya Ghali [Oh Precious] -original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AaRHswXjV0), hindi cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpl9o_0Dtb4)

Tamally Ma'ak {Always with You] original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dqHLLrvdvM), hindi cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOpWeAY_sEc)

Of course no one does Smooth Criminal quite like the Saudis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0SseN-b6UY

Except for the Indians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeC2XTpei_w) doing Billy Jean *cough*

parmalee
07-27-09, 11:34 AM
If it had been Fairouz ya9neh, I might have recognized it.

Fairuz is Lebanese--and far too syrupy (what's with all the strings?) to even come close to the god-like status of Khoulthoum! ;)

A friend of mine covers Khoulthoum's Enta Omri (composed by Mohammed Abdel Wahab) on his new album: http://www.myspace.com/sirrichardbishop

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 11:43 AM
Fairuz is Lebanese--and far too syrupy (what's with all the strings?) to even come close to the god-like status of Khoulthoum! ;)


Jeez, how old are you????:bugeye::D

Enta Omri remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUMMLdAHIvI

parmalee
07-27-09, 12:02 PM
Jeez, how old are you????:bugeye::D

Enta Omri remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUMMLdAHIvI

Hey, what do you mean by that? Just because I was amongst the mob of 100 million people :D at Khoulthoum's funeral doesn't mean I'm old! Actually though, I'm "only" 39.

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 12:06 PM
Thats a relief, so am I! [39, not one of the 100 million people at Umm Kulsum's funeral :p]

Here's a lubnani one for the pilot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPG4AME6e0c

How do you like Nancy Ajram?

Here is one of the same one with strange English translation for the non-Arab speakers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pffVXL7qiA&feature=fvw

Orleander
07-27-09, 12:10 PM
Thats a relief, so am I! [39, not one of the 100 million people at Umm Kulsum's funeral :p]...

Holy Crap!!!! http://fauzizakaria.vodspot.tv/?id=2691577
Is it still the largest funeral in the Middle East?

hypewaders
07-27-09, 12:11 PM
"Here's a lubnani one for the pilot"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPG4AME6e0c


Shukran iktiiir ya sitti. :bawl:

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 12:11 PM
Maybe, I don't know how many people turned up for Mahmoud Darwish's funeral, but I'm guessing a lot more people were crazy about Mother Kulsum. :p


"Here's a lubnani one for the pilot"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPG4AME6e0c


Shukran iktiiir ya sitti. :bawl:

Afwan ya ghali:D

Must say, the dialect is incomprehensible!

Video for Mahmoud Darwish's funeral

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kXmnsLZ1_c

Gustav
07-27-09, 12:12 PM
the indians doing billie jean
so frikkin entertaining
must watch again
and again

hypewaders
07-27-09, 12:14 PM
Majnoun! Enta omri. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1F0X_qnr0)

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 12:24 PM
Majnoun! Enta omri. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1F0X_qnr0)

Gorgeous! :cool:

parmalee
07-27-09, 12:24 PM
Holy Crap!!!! http://fauzizakaria.vodspot.tv/?id=2691577
Is it still the largest funeral in the Middle East?

# An estimated 15 million people attended the funeral of C. N. Annadurai in Tamil Nadu, India in 1969. (Guinness Book Records, 1986 UK edition, Religions, accidents and disasters, p.219. Largest funeral : The funeral of the charismatic CN Annadurai (died 3 February 1969), Madras chief minister, was, according to a police estimate, attended by 15 million people.)

# An estimated 12 million people gathered at the funeral of Ayatollah Khomeini in Tehran, Iran on June 3, 1989. (http://english.hizbollah.tv/essaydetailsf.php?eid=3948&fid=21)

# An estimated 4 million people gathered at the Funeral of Oum Khoulthoum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oum_Kulthoum Note: citation needed--this estimate seems to be thrown about all over the place, but I've yet to locate an independent source.)

Orleander
07-27-09, 12:25 PM
thank you parmalee! :)

hypewaders
07-27-09, 12:26 PM
Bein Edik
In your hands

wana bein edaik me7taga eih? feh 7aga akbar men keda
When I'm in your hands, what would I need ?

w ana 3omri kont a7lam fe youm a3ish 7ayah bel shakl da ...
I never dreamed that I would ever live a life this way

kol elli fat meen el 3omr fat w mosh be 2edna nragga3o
Everything that had past, already past and we can't change it

khallaina aktar felle gai, maba2ash fe wa2t ndaya3o
Let's stay in the present, we don't have any time to loose

wana mosh hadaya3 3omr tani law sawane hayenfa3oo
I wont lose any more time, seconds are valuable to me

ana mosh hafakkar felle fat, ana 3omri lessa f2awelo
I wont think about the past, my life is still in front of me

kefaya enne ba2ait ma3ak w ma3ak ha3isho w akamelo
It's enough that I am with you, and with you I will live

kol elli fat meen el 3omr fat w mosh be 2edna nragga3o
khallaina aktar felle gai, maba2ash fe wa2t ndaya3o

wana bein edik ...
When Im in your hands

wana bein edaik me7taga eih? feh 7aga akbar men keda
w ana 3omri kont a7lam fe youm a3ish 7ayah bel shakl da ...

http://www.getalyric.com/listen/Uy_iHJcA5C8/bein_edik_nancy_ajram_hq_with_lyrics_english_trans lation

Gustav
07-27-09, 12:49 PM
zeava ben - what will be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDAhc4YL32k)

Gustav
07-27-09, 01:14 PM
Ofra Haza - Leorech Hayam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWiyu0omKyw)

Ofra Haza Im Nin Alu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2xNTzlFSk0)

my jewish princess
you and me babe
in heaven

hypewaders
07-27-09, 01:19 PM
Since we're reviewing eclectic love songs-

My Jewish Princess[censored]

parmalee
07-27-09, 01:26 PM
Click on "Kristallivirta" on the Playlist:

http://www.myspace.com/saucerslikeeyes

Arabic-flavored, albeit made by an American (me) and two Finns.

Gustav
07-27-09, 01:36 PM
This is a video response to Jewish Princess. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCMQopf_xRY&feature=channel)

hypewaders
07-27-09, 01:48 PM
Aaaaaaaaaagh! That's scary and obscene! I didn't do it! reported.

S.A.M.
07-27-09, 01:53 PM
If we're going all over the place, then here's a Turkish number:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHe2a05_QLA

parmalee
07-27-09, 01:59 PM
Have we covered Qawwali yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9lt-JI86k4

Gustav
07-27-09, 02:08 PM
meanwhile, in this reality..... a perfect landing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lAl2TeGAUo&feature=related)

Gustav
07-27-09, 02:10 PM
parmalee
is a drone a feature of finnish shit?

Gustav
07-27-09, 02:25 PM
hype
i just watched a water salute
wtf?

parmalee
07-27-09, 04:12 PM
parmalee
is a drone a feature of finnish shit?

Absolutely. Finland is perhaps best known for it's exportation of various shades of metal, but the New Wave of Finnish Heavy Metal--represented first and foremost by Circle, who composed an endearing (and emphatically not metal) little ditty for the real Parmalee: http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=20873&archive=30980--complements the ironically named New Wave of Finnish New Age. Not really "New Age" crap, but rather rambling, formless, and kinda weird folky shit with bits of prog and psych and some drones thrown in. Avarus, Tomutonttu, Lau nau, Uton, and Vapaa are representative of the genre

Ideally the drone would be interminable, but the fact of human mortality does not facilitate this. John Cage proposed a viable solution with his interpretation of Satie's "Vexations"--John Cale demonstrates a fragment of this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHIqMmtS-0. But even with an unlimited supply of willing and able young virtuosos to play the part, either war, natural disaster, plague, or extinction will inevitably bring it to an end.

"The song remains which names the land over which it sings." --Martin Heidegger

Gustav
07-27-09, 05:18 PM
i like your stuff

i have drone zone (http://scfire-mtc-aa05.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1032) bookmarked in winamp like since forever
sheila chandra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbcKO92OGNI) is another fave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luW2U60P8cU)
i've recently started fiddling with bagpipes (http://soundbytes.de/BagPipes/)

drones fascinate
opens up possibilities and whatnot

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5323/7397.jpg

indeed

Gustav
07-27-09, 06:09 PM
repetitious implies a start/stop/start/...
drone implies constant and.."interminable"

vexations fits the former

ja?
nein?

mortality is easily circumvented by radel's tanpura (http://www.radelindia.com/User_Products_QuickView.aspx) and other similar shit

Use on any voltage between 90 - 260V AC. Built-in battery facility with automatic switch-over to batteries in case of power failure. ;)

parmalee
07-27-09, 07:44 PM
i like your stuff

Thank you.


i have drone zone (http://scfire-mtc-aa05.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1032) bookmarked in winamp like since forever
sheila chandra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbcKO92OGNI) is another fave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luW2U60P8cU)
i've recently started fiddling with bagpipes (http://soundbytes.de/BagPipes/)

I would love to add bagpipes to my arsenal. I just picked up a practice chanter, but without the whole package it's hard to knock down a wall--I tend to use a couple of droning oscillators in tandem.
(Mike Oldfield and Paddy Maloney! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow49Q9UUL7M)


repetitious implies a start/stop/start/...
drone implies constant and.."interminable"

vexations fits the former

ja?
nein?

Nein.

Definitions vary, but I regard the continuous or repeated use of the tone, chord, arpeggiated chord, or pattern as drone proper. Consider Nico's "All That Is My Own" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClSUT3ZMiVs--"All That Is..." begins at 3:12): the harpsichord and one of the violas lend the drone--it is unfair to discriminate against the harpsichordist because he can't sustain his notes for very long!

I recorded a cover of "All That Is..." for which I diligently transcribed all of John cale's parts for eclectic instrumentation. I had to re-title it ("Desert Song") because I didn't want to have to pay licensing fees for two songs (Robert Wyatt's "Sea Song"--drone-y, but no drones--was the other one). Oddly, no one seemed to recognize the song. Perhaps too many notes spoiled the pot.

http://www.secreteye.org/urdog/tour/nicoeyes.jpg


mortality is easily circumvented by radel's tanpura and other similar shit

Use on any voltage between 90 - 260V AC. Built-in battery facility with automatic switch-over to batteries in case of power failure.

:D

hypewaders
07-27-09, 10:30 PM
"meanwhile, in this reality..... a perfect landing"

That was hideous- 14 inches right of centerline. You have to visualize the centerline passing under your right heel (from the left seat) and put it there. Quel manche, wash akhraq.

"i just watched a water salute, wtf?"

When you retire, they try and make you feel special taxiing in for the last time. They say it's after that, shutting down the last engine for the last time, when retiring Captains shed a few tears. Then they're told to get lost, their pensions get fucked up, and nobody listens to their memories as they fade away.

I don't know how to change the sound but watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loLUqJ-xSMY) and listen to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGPBumQKPA) at the same time, and maybe you'll feel a place I really miss being.

S.A.M.
07-28-09, 01:33 AM
Back to the Arabs

Here is the ardh of Saudi Arabia

Southern version [yes, its the Smooth Criminal video with the original music]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUikcuBqM-Q

Northern version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8mwDamAX0c

Traditionally done at weddings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o80bG8XN3aY

hypewaders
07-28-09, 11:06 PM
What rednecks. I prefer a black/white keffiyeh.

S.A.M.
07-28-09, 11:12 PM
Those are not the rednecks, the rednecks have guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrtzm3fkVho

You can get practically any colour [or muticolour] of keffiyeh at Leicester Square these days :p

hypewaders
07-28-09, 11:14 PM
YeeeeeeHaaaaaw! :BLAMBLAM: ... I mean, "He's the Greatest". No wonder they were Bush-Buddies.

(just kidding I have collected all 5 colors As Seen On TV)

Xerxes
07-28-09, 11:57 PM
Thanks kindly for all the responses. Unfortunately none of the names are turning anything up.


I know you said that those are the "only clues," but can you possibly place the era of the piece? Egyptian and female: first person who comes to my mind is, of course, Oum Khoultoum; but that ("willy willy.... willy willy, willy willy halaaaaaaaaaa") sure as hell doesn't sound like Khoultoum.

Era? Definitely the 90's, probably late 90's. The production value of the song was too high to have made sooner.

Are you sure thats the correct spelling? I can't find her on itunes or youtube.


Wuleeeeeah? Ha'la? :

When I try to replay what I listened to, or was captivated by in Beirut in the 80s (filtering out the normal world-pop and world-retro music background that everyone hears everywhere) the most amazing and beautiful things I had ever heard keep getting harder for me to find- just like some states of mind when you've lived places. Part of getting out of touch on many levels.


That "wuleaaaah? Ha'la" sounds more like it than "willy hala" come to think of it. What does that mean?

Yea I know what you mean about the changing music scene. I remember listening to some of my Dads old Arab tapes years ago and it's pretty awesome stuff. The style is completely unique and the singers have an intensity that you don't normally see in western music. Most of the new stuff I come across sounds like an arab spin on western fluff.



S.A.M.,
It's not Noor Shimal unfortunately.



Do you guys know Hakim? I'm addicted to 'El Salam'. So epic. What similar artists would you recommend?

parmalee
07-29-09, 08:18 AM
Are you sure thats the correct spelling? I can't find her on itunes or youtube.


As it's transliterated Arabic, There are about 1500 or so alternate spellings. Try Kultuum, Khultuum, Kalsoum, Kalthoum, ...

Actually, Kalsoum and Kalthoum work for youtube--here's a couple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3tB-6R7p4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDYNgNxLnXk

hypewaders
07-29-09, 06:44 PM
Xerxes: "That "wuleaaaah? Ha'la" sounds more like it than "willy hala" come to think of it. What does that mean?"

W’air do I start? yahneh dakhlak. DAKHLAK!!! It's just silly, like "Hey boy- NOW!"

You might avoid yelling it out in bars -unless that sort of attention is your finjan e-qahweh. Wu-Er.

hypewaders
07-29-09, 06:52 PM
Here's something to play (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5tE7P2uaAZUT8jbU9) It's better just to listen, and not watch. Lubnani MTV video production has a high plactics/PCB content.

while you wait, I'm still trying to find your song, and find it I will, wullAhi.

Norsefire
07-29-09, 06:55 PM
I'm looking for a song. Heard it once about 10years ago... I think the song is Egyptian and it's sung by a female. It's very upbeat and goes 'willy willy.... willy willy, willy willy halaaaaaaaaaa with lots of female arabic tongue rolling sounds. Those are the only clues I can provide, unfortunately.

-thanks

Ayayay, ana ma ba'ref. Asef.

hypewaders
07-29-09, 06:57 PM
Mafesh khouf.

Norsefire
07-29-09, 07:02 PM
Mafesh khouf.

The hell does that mean?

Speak proper Arabic, my man!

hypewaders
07-29-09, 08:14 PM
Hey hey, My, My-
W'air, do2 el-mai- Mai.