http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42219
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42677
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42640

I tihkn those speak for themselves.

It is quite unlikely that anyone gets banned by public vote. Anyway, I would not defend this member.

Perhaps you also wanted to list this thread: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42640

She's a minor offendor. I mean minor. How 'bout just a light warning?

She's not really doing any harm. She doesn't deserve to be banned.

I've gotta say give her the warning....

She's not really hurting anyone, just wasting space. Just warn her about it.

Chill out, people. You've got some banning frenzy. :rolleyes:
Let Pixel live!

Hell, compare the list of offenses:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42551

She hasn't been here long, and hasn't done much wrong. Even banks (step above lawyers) give you a grace period.

Oh WOW -- I'm flattered! A whole poll on little old me? Salt/Dreamduh/whoever, I had no idea I affected you so much that you'd devote a whole poll to getting me expelled. I noticed you failed to list the very many posts I made where I wasn't engaged in Cesspool fun.

Tell you what: I'll leave voluntarily -- no more posts from me, k? Now, you get yourself some levity and a sense of humour and get the mega rod out of your ass ... Deal?

I'm outta here. :D

I like Pixel. I voted to keep Pixel.

(Pixel will remember this, right?) ;)

She does have some constructive posts. She's less offending than way too many others.
She's not one of the most informative posters and she's girly like I don't know what, but you have no basis for a case against her.

Damn it, we've lost her! She left.

They come back... they always come back...

Ban Pixel because why, ILS?

:m: Peace.

If you could show excessive rule breaking then you would likely have a case. but starting aome cesspool threads is hardly a case at all, Its like arresting a guy for craping on a sidewalk in Paris, everyone does it there, so what the crime? :p

yeah. i say warning, but not much else. :m:

I like salt is an idiot and should be banned.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42683

I think the thread speaks for itself.

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^^ Observe superior reasoning at work, learned from the master himself.

nice. like a little bit of ouraboros there. :m:

"Oh WOW -- I'm flattered! A whole poll on little old me? Salt/Dreamduh/whoever, I had no idea I affected you so much that you'd devote a whole poll to getting me expelled. I noticed you failed to list the very many posts I made where I wasn't engaged in Cesspool fun.

Tell you what: I'll leave voluntarily -- no more posts from me, k? Now, you get yourself some levity and a sense of humour and get the mega rod out of your ass ... Deal?

I'm outta here."

ouch.. bye bye

Chill out, people. You've got some banning frenzy.
How can you say that? No one ever gets banned.
This is whats wrong with sciforums and yes, the world.

I vote that we get tough on mediocrity, and that ban threads mean something.

I have nothing against pixel, but she might as well have been at teenchat.com, that goes for alot of you.

And don't try the condescending "hey I didn't know you took it so seriously lolol" angle, as though using a forum for pathetic socialising is less uncool than using it for serious discussion.
You're here, you suck, at least be productive.
I'm actually starting to hate sciforums and I think I will leave. And yeah everyone will have their "good riddance lolol" comments, but you should realise this will be teenchat.com in a couple of years and it's because people like me are leaving and teenchatting nothings talking shit aren't being banned.
"Intelligent community" will soon be the most ironic motto a website has ever had.

I think Dr Lou Natic has a point. It would be nice if the admin and supermods were more up tight and banished people left and right for simply being un-intellectual. But unfortunately it is not going to happen, mainly because of the laziness of our higher ups and the side-effects of being strict. If you look at serious science forums like this: http://micro.nwfsc.noaa.gov/forums/ you will notice that idiocy and idol chat is kept to a minimum, just hard core science questions and answers. But where is the fun here? It was a good place for me to ask questions about spectral analyses of florescent DNA dies during my internship, but not for hanging around. If you look at another general science forum like this: http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/index.php? You will notice that despite an attempt at higher intellectual conversation, idiocy permeates the forum, why? Well when you open your self up to general science that means you open your self up to religion and pseudoscience, you open your self up to hypothetical questions that can rarely be answered with seriousness. A science forum must balance serious yet dull, with fun yet stupid, you can’t have serious and fun without the side-effects.

None of the subforums are stupid, not even pseudoscience. The members are stupid.
I've offered my services for watching members like a hawk and culling inadequacy, but no on takes me up on it.

Also serious discussion doesn't have to be boring or dull, and serious posters could take time out to goof around without there being a problem. The problem is members who only talk shit. Who treat it like a chatroom/onlinejournal hybrid where they can get feedback on the pain of being a latchkey kid and the joy of yugioh battles.
It's not like the disposables are hard to discern, this isn't a needle in a haystack scenario. They might as well be wearing neon signs. We just need the balls to cut them loose regardless of whether they abide by site rules or not.
Anybody who had any respect for sciforums would agree with me.

If these members have something serious to say then let them say it on a sub-forum, if not, we move it to the cesspool where the thread will eventually be purged from the server.

OK, kids, I have about half an hour for one last thread and since the rods haven’t disappeared from inside some member’s butts, I figure I don’t have to keep my end of the deal, so I’ll post once more. This is in response to Salt’s request that pixel be banned from SciForums, which I accept with great amusement.

First of all, pixel would like to thank the Academy and God – she couldn’t have done it without you. *kiss, kiss!* Next, she’d like to thank the majority who voted to keep her on the island – seriously, I do appreciate it (and no, I won’t forget it; trust me).

But I do have some things I’d like to say to you SciF’ers and especially to people like Salt and Invert.

First of all “pixel” is an onscreen persona and I’m able to separate “her” from “me,” so I am not taking anything as a personal affront – still, I am compelled to tell you that some of you (eg. Salt) are way too retentive and paranoid for your age, and you might want to lighten up, or you’ll end up dying alone and unloved in a pool of your own “serious” feces. Posting your opinions and moving posts to the Cesspool is totally cool – trying to get anyone banned (“Ban Athelwulf”, “Ban Truthseeker”, etc) because they add to silly threads and the like is really just puerile, hardnosed and mean. What it spells is “wildly insecure”.

I’ll tell you why I say wildly insecure. I don’t see you trying to ban the many other members who regularly post Cesspool material. I also, SALT, noticed that you didn’t respond to my sincere responses to the more serious threads, including yours – although I just LOVED your valuable contribution to this thread:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42479

How very much “smarter” than pixel you are. I guess I should be bowing down in reverence to your intellect. Then you could kick me for being such a “girl”. The truth is, and I'm being perfectly sincere here, I think IT BUGS YOU that a female can be smart and pretty and have a sense of humor -- I think it threatens you. I think you want the world to be as humorless and wretched as you. I mean, you do live way out in Bumblefuck Ontario – I guess you have nothing better to do than sit around being pissed off.

To anyone who has been ranting angrily about the pretty funny posts that didn’t have rods up their asses (which other members have been posting), let me explain that, even among physicists and theologians and psychologists (if not quite philosophers), crude humour is very commonly interjected to blow off some steam and as a reminder that every thought that they express ain’t solemn business that’s going to change the world.

Now I really had to stop hanging out at SciForums anyway, because I’m starting to get super busy, but from what I can tell, some people treat this as a “community”, a social interaction, a way to connect to other human beings – my God, a loose network of virtual friendships, despite all the bravado. Why can’t humor or inanity have a role in these communications? And is anyone twisting your arm to read any of it? From what I can tell, everyone is following an unwritten protocol: if you’re going to start nonsense, make it clear in the thread name so that every “serious” member knows to avoid it.

I think, if SciForums were to take Lou Natic’s offer to weasel out anybody who’s having some fun or being controversial, you’d lose your “community” and end up with a bunch of grey buzzing drones spewing out calculations and data. You can go to a textbook for that, or chat with a bot.

And a quotation for Invert, who slashed me down and whipped me for saying “I laughed for 5 minutes” at Genanken’s posts:
“Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly; devils fall because of their gravity.” - G.K. Chesterton

I think a better use of energy would be to ban nasty personal-attack spazz freazoids who are too angry to get a hold of themselves, eg:


Probably because there's no pansy idiot faggot section.


Truthseeker has personally insulted me for the last time;
Also note there was a rude smiley face involved that was too graphic to be duplicated here. Vote wisely.


What an irritating ignorant fuck you are. I wouldn't even waste an explanation on such an idiot, I'd gladly waste a bullet though.



The word nigger does tend to piss black people off, if you're physically weaker than the black people in ear shot it would be wise to refrain from using it, if they are small or handicapped niggers, I say go nuts. Like I said, time your niggers wisely, thats all, it's not hard. I usually still manage to reach my quota of 186 niggers per day.


Thosearereallycrapbye!!


We mustn't forget that you're a complete moron.


You should be banned.


I'm not a psychopath, which I've said I'm not. A true psychopath is basically a kind of retard. Um… I beg to differ. On both counts.


I used to give americans a chance but I am now convinced that the americans are the stupidest fucking people ever. I have lost all respect for them. YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!!


I was only truly in tove once with my boyfriend last year. We had to part ways when he moved away.... (Oh. So THAT explains it. You have a problem with girls who have stuff going on, right? Are you fat, ugly, hard up, or all three, sister?)

So, you pissy freaks who are constantly whining about other members, YOUR ANGRY "SERIOUS" STUFF is better than light-hearted, happy quips, right, kids? That actually annoys me to no end -- you deserve to get it as hard as you dish it out. Who the fuck do you think you are, trying to silence other members' voices (excluding me here)?

I think this is mostly a good community, with very cool young minds. If some members are so bothered by levity, maybe the admin should consider One Vote to Rule Them All: cesspool material allowed, or not? If not, ban all contributors of such material, as Dr. Lou Natic suggests? If you ban all offending contributors, send me an e-mail: I’d like to see what happens to the “community”.

Life can be happy and airy and sometimes silly as you try to figure it out – it just ain’t the end of the world to lapse into slapstick sometimes. Now lighten up, kids, and see the beauty in the world beyond your monitors and somber analyses of the fabric of life… Sometimes, living means being human.

Back to work I go. Those of you who are smart AND funny, thanks so much for the exercise – I think you’re awesome. To the "government": I hope you keep things human around here.

But they aren't being moved to the cesspool, and we have a ton of posters who say nothing important at all. Pixel included. Not to mention, she constantly posts in the wrong forums, it's stupid trite bs and completely unimportant. Lou is right, we have too many pansy idiots. And nothing is being done about them. Other forums point their banned members here because they know we are becoming a dumping ground because of our apathy. It's pathetic.

But we put up with it from other posters like Athelwulf too. I for one, would like to see moderators cleaning up posters that have zero value except coming here to chat. Alas, most of the moderators are indifferent and some just don't even care much, so I don't expect it to change.

I do want to point out the idiot who said "Enough with the bannings already!" or something to that effect. We can't seem to ban anyone by vote, and haven't. So I have no idea what the heck you are talking about.

hehe I knew you where hiding something, but what an unexpected long speach :) I liked it, make a new one please :)

anyway dont be so harsh on us, the community or you break our belive on us self "sciforums.com. intelligent community", got a lov it.
I bet you can proberly find a better site where you can have far more fun instead of wasing your time here so happy hunting, and if you do find a good site with a mix of fun and sci/tech please let me know :)

But they aren't being moved to the cesspool, and we have a ton of posters who say nothing important at all. Pixel included.

But we put up with it from other posters like Athelwulf too. I for one, would like to see moderators cleaning up posters that have zero value except coming here to chat. Alas, most of the moderators are indifferent and some just don't even care much, so I don't expect it to change.

I do want to point out the idiot who said "Enough with the bannings already!" or something to that effect. We can't seem to ban anyone by vote, and haven't. So I have no idea what the heck you are talking about.

Meh -- screw it. I need a break and so I'll post a reply to you, "sempre sbagliato" Macchiavellian Arditezza ('cause I'm not that concerned with any upkeep of one of my onscreen personas' honor just for you stiffs, to be honest: )

Forze hai raggione che sei "spesso sbagliato" -- ma allo stesso tempo dici che tutti gli altri sono sbagliati. Et tu chi sei? Allora non e' giusto a ridere una volta ogni tanto -- dobbiamo essere serie -- perche'? "pixel" ti ha offeso perche' ... Che? Tutto lo scambio qui' -- oppure nel mundo proprio -- e solo una maniera di communicare che esistiamo. Dalle volte esistiamo per ridere. Senti, ridi ogni tanto -- fatti il favore, caro. un bacio forte!

I’m arguing with the other moderators to up our cesspooling, to close more threads that we send to the cesspool and to do another purging of the cesspool. If we can keep the forums clean then idiotic members will give up and leave or post more intellectual material.

I’m afraid we just can’t banish people for being non-intellectual most of the time.

Also if you want things changed reporting post and threads more often would be a good start. We are like police sitting at the station eating donuts thinking “Gee everything most be ok, no one is calling us.” Patrolling thread after thread, we have to skip over a lot of stuff, it easy to miss things, reporting bad threads is a good way to improve our performance as moderators and help clean up the place.

... Oh, and I hereby solemnly swear to post in this thread only from this point forward (12:18 edit time), forevermore, on pain of being drawn and quartered at midnight by Lou Natic and Salt. (This way I won't be tempted.)

I am now sequestered to this thread. Shhhhh. Salt, can you bring me some water?

How nice to be remembered.

Look, Pixel.
You can sit there and talk about how people have sticks up their asses and no sense of humor and blah blah all day. What you're doing is not seeing the big picture. And, it's not your fault, either. You haven't seen this place when it was.... better. Their used to be an overabundance of interesting threads and talks going on. Yes, we always had our little chitty-chatties, but they were few(er) and weren't as noticeable.

Nowadays, it seems that practically all that is going on is chat. There are a few threads here and there, but they are buried beneath the lolol's and LMAO ROLFMLAO BLAH.

Is it your fault? No. But, you are sufferering a backlash of people who remember what this place used to be like and are at pains seeing something that they loved turn to a kiddie playground.

There have been other posters in the past that were far more egregiously chatful than you are, and they were not turned upon so severely as you have been (and the fact is that you have not been turned upon that severely. You're overreacting.) In fact, one, Jadedflower, was told by Porfiry himself that he would never ban her. This from a girl who never made a single worthwhile contribution to any thread (as far as I'm aware.) But, she was allowed because at that time the place was still hopping with good threads.

So, in the end it comes down to questions and solutions. Why is the quality of threads diminishing? Is it because of the teenyboppers? Or are the teenyboppers just more obvious because of the slump? I actually think that it's the latter. It just seems that things are slow right now and they will most likely pick up eventually. I'm sure this can't be the first slump that SciForums have gone through. And probably won't be the last.

However, during these times, we must be watchful that the teenyboppers and chatters don't get out of hand. In the absence of good conversation, they come and think that all this place is about is lolol rofl and invite their friends and next thing we know we're up to our necks in parasites.

Caution is the keyword. There's plenty of teenchat forums out there. We don't need that here. Do you have to be 100% serious at all times? Absolutely not. In fact, I've seen even the most serious posters here break out some inane garbage at times (well, actually I don't think I've ever seen either Fraggle or James break down to such levels, come on guys, loosen up. Kidding.) But, keep your inanity to a minimum and try to contribute to serious discussion to leaven the foolishness. However, some are better off just staying in free thoughts as their 'contributions', however well intended, are sometimes not contributing much if anything.

Am I judging you? No. These are all general statements. Merely trying to explain to you why you are experiencing this backlash. And asking that you understand the need that some of us have to keep this place sane and productive. Some of us have nowhere else to go with these thoughts that find expression here. Many of us have no intellectual 'friends' who would care to hear about any philosophical or scientific 'bullshit'. To us, this place is more than just a playground, it is a means of expression and is not to be trifled with. Are there other places on the net for such expressions? Surely. But, I've found none better than here.

SciForums is, was, and will be the best forum on the net in my opinion. Even now in it's slump I cannot help but see her as she was and will be. She will return to her former height. Either lend a hand or go away. That's all I have to say.

Meh -- screw it. I need a break and so I'll post a reply to you, "sempre sbagliato" Macchiavellian Arditezza ('cause I'm not that concerned with any upkeep of one of my onscreen personas' honor just for you stiffs, to be honest: )

Forze hai raggione che sei "spesso sbagliato" -- ma allo stesso tempo dici che tutti gli altri sono sbagliati. Et tu chi sei? Allora non e' giusto a ridere una volta ogni tanto -- dobbiamo essere serie -- perche'? "pixel" ti ha offeso perche' ... Che? Tutto lo scambio qui' -- oppure nel mundo proprio -- e solo una maniera di communicare che esistiamo. Dalle volte esistiamo per ridere. Senti, ridi ogni tanto -- fatti il favore, caro. un bacio forte!

I'm not going to offend others by excluding them and posting in another language, so I will respond in english;

Yes, I freely admit that I am often wrong in my posts that are on-topic, non-chatty and within the intention of these forums. However, this is not Chatforums.com or imdysfunctionalandwanttoshareforums.com. While the people here do socialize, the quality posters are the ones who contribute to the intention of the site, and not to satisfy their need to socialize and talk about themselves all the time. I laugh. And I laugh a lot, I'm also of good humour. What I don't find funny, is the continued degradation of these forums by the likes of people who don't add anything but social crap. You haven't offended me, per se. But more that posters like you irritate me by posting bad topics in main forums, and mucking up perfectly good debates with innane babbling.

These forums have quality, but it's getting fewer and far between because of people who just chatter with nothing to add. The apathy of the people here to fix it is also irritating. I have enjoyed these forums for their intelligent debate, which is become less and less frequent because people are driven away by the inability to have a good conversation without stupid people talking for the sake of hearing themselves talk. Other forums have cleaned it up, and people move there to have a healthy debate. Why post here if everything you post is going to be marred by stupidity? If you can't keep your chattiness to the off-forums, and continue posting in sections where your posts don't belong then I have no recourse but to assign you to the moron catagory of posters that only talk, and do not think.

Please keep your kisses and affections to yourself. I don't want to catch anything.

Arditezza: Oh. You don't actually speak Italian then -- it was for show. If you don't want to offend members with "foreign languages", then why did you choose to have your name and motto in Italian, Mr. "Sempre Sbagliato"? Why couldn't you simply write "Always Wrong", if a foreign language offends?

Alright, Invert, I understand that you'd like SciForums to revert to a more logical, scientific-minded (etc) place to meet other minds. Of course that's fair. What's not fair is forcing silence on any member whose intention is to contribute to the 'intellect' aspect while at the same time engaging in some of the frivolity that always seems to have existed around here (looking at very old posts). And I'm bothering with this because there seem to be a ton of "ban member X" requests lately, and I think that sucks. (I'm about to take a long break from the web anyway.)

In my case, I'm very very swamped with work. I also happen to love physics & astronomy, linguistics & languages, literature, poetry, writing, spirituality... etc. So "pixel" has given my two cents' worth where I had something to contribute in a "serious" thread here. Otherwise, "pixel" was jumping into the fray of frivolity. I didn't, as "Arditezza" suggests (in ENGLISH), constantly

"post bad topics in main forums, and muck up perfectly good debates with innane babbling".

I tried to post directly to the Cesspool and keep out of "Free Thoughts", but found it wasn't permitted, and experimented with the process by posting cesspool-worthy stuff -- because I was curious, and I didn't know how things work yet. And yes, I also contributed to Cesspool threads, with good spirits and (I thought) not with any intention of "mucking up perfectly good debates"... Where I had something to contribute at all in a debate, I contributed.

Still, this is not really about me, because as I've said, I really had to get seriously into projects I'm working on and my time's starting to run out. Also, I do recognize that "pixel" is an obnoxious onscreen persona sometimes... So if she got/gets banned, I won't be traumatized, and as I've said, I enjoyed the forum while pixel lasted here. What's at issue here is whether or not members should be allowed to engage in "cesspool" banter -- not whether they should be allowed to screw up debates deliberately. (Not to say the debates don't sometimes go to shit anyway, despite all good intentions.)

I don't think you'll ever be able to sustain a very "proper" etiquette around being silly in a forum without eventually losing most members. What I would be more concerned about, is sustaining an environment that allows for diversity (in thought, mood, etc) without fear of personal attack, as LouNatic and others tend to revert to. That's the kind of menial, insulting and scary crap that contaminates a forum -- not frivolity. Ad hominem is the ugliest thing I've seen in here.

...because of the laziness of our higher ups...

Perhaps you'd care to support that statement?
I’m arguing with the other moderators to up our cesspooling, to close more threads that we send to the cesspool and...

...where, exactly, is this supposed argument taking place? Or are you just attempting to present yourself as pretender to the title of Guardian of Sciforums? There is no "argument" taking place regarding the suggestions you have made, and little comment so far.

:m: Peace.

Sure: the fact we don’t banish people on minor offenses. The fact that the cesspool hasn’t been cleaned in sometime, ect

Gee Goofyfish have you stopped by at my thread on moderator sub-forum about this again? : http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42672 sure no one seem to be arguing about it as no one is even replying to me, is that laziness or apathy? Should I just say out loud that none of the other moderators seem to give a dam?

Say out loud whatever is a fact. You cannot have an "argument" without the participation of at least one other individual. Your use of the term leads others to believe that you are standing up for something that other moderators don't support, which you cannot possibly know is the case. Lazyness or apathy? Some might call it a period of reflection - time spent considering the subject in question rather than posting the first thought that flits into their brain.

:m: Peace.

Well, if there is a 'period of reflection' going on, allow me to throw my stones into the pool.

I don't know if 'cesspooling more threads' is necessarily the solution. This seems to bring to mind quotas among police in which they are required to catch a certain number of criminals and thus they often 'catch' people who aren't criminals or aren't necessarily deserving of punishment for a light infraction. I think that, for the most part, the threads that are cesspooled are well-chosen. There have been times in the past when threads were trashed that were undeserving. But, lately this seems to not be the case. So... well done.

Anyway, just laying down a blanket 'more cesspooling' isn't going to fix anything. Especially threads from the less strict forums (free thoughts, art & culture, sci-fi, etc...). There really is nothing that the moderators can do without significantly damaging one of the things that makes this place great, the freedom.

The power is in the hands of the people. To either destroy or make better. If, instead of just running away at the first hint of boredom, the serious posters on this forum policed themselves we'd be better off. Do we need to eradicate all frivolity? No. But, we can certainly 'pick on' those individuals who add nothing to the site but frivolity.

Humiliation is the best police action. Send the fools back to the nether hells they come from. Declare an open season on idiots and we could undoubtably chase off quite a few of the chatters. At least we might make them consider themselves a bit more deeply. And consider the consequences of their foolishness.

Are they children? Well, then they must be taught that they are being foolish and that pissing the bed is wrong.

Are they fools? Then they must be shown their foolishness and pointed elsewhere.

But, merely laying down a blanket statement of more cesspooling is failing to take into consideration the history of said individuals. It's free thoughts and there's lots of thoughts that can be called free and frivolous without being worthy of the cesspool.

We don't need a police state here. Additional police presence will only create an atmosphere of tension and reluctance to speak. You throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Ok. Enough metaphors. I've said my piece.

Say no to proposition X.

Well instead of banishing more idiot members the moderation is leaning toward punishing those that complain... and that a fact.

No, it is actually not a fact.

Should I just say out loud that none of the other moderators seem to give a dam?

Gee, were to busy moderating our respective forums to stop buy and debunk your crazy ideas. I'm fucking sorry.

Arditezza: Oh. You don't actually speak Italian then -- it was for show. If you don't want to offend members with "foreign languages", then why did you choose to have your name and motto in Italian, Mr. "Sempre Sbagliato"? Why couldn't you simply write "Always Wrong", if a foreign language offends?

I read Italian quite well, my writing in it is horrible. My learning of languages has been so that I may read texts instead of texts decipered by biased individuals. Admittedly, I am not a flutent speaker in any languages but English and French, but I know at least seven. It is, however considered rude to post in a different language in a forum that is comprized of English writers.

And I'm a woman, not a "Mr.Arditezza". I would rather be, often wrong than always annoying, always hypocritical (how many times have you said "last post") and always immature.

And I'm a woman, not a "Mr.Arditezza". I would rather be, often wrong than always annoying, always hypocritical (how many times have you said "last post") and always immature.

"Wrong", you say?

Oh, I'm sorry for knowing my Italian then, and assuming you're a man -- if you actually READ Italian, you'd still know that calling yourself "spesso sbagliato" -- with the o -- means you are of masculine gender... ahem... And I'm still offended by the fact that you don't want to "catch anything" by taking a token of affection from me.

Dear Deities!

Does it say anywhere in site rules that a poster MUST post scientific content only? Or any scientific content at all? No. So why do we complain about other people posting crap? You've got nothing on them, no case at all. Finita.

And I'm a woman, not a "Mr.Arditezza". I would rather be, often wrong than always annoying, always hypocritical (how many times have you said "last post") and always immature.

"Wrong", you say?

Oh, I'm sorry for knowing my Italian then, and assuming you're a man -- if you actually READ Italian, as you say, you'd still know that calling yourself "spesso sbagliato" -- with the o -- means you are of masculine gender... ahem... And I'm still offended by the fact that you don't want to "catch anything" by taking a token of affection from me.

And I still say if you find it offensive to post in other languages, I fail to see what's up with the "spesso sbagliato" thing. Sir.

how about we return to the topic?...

so small talk is out the window now, guess i have to dust of my walking shoes. But the problem is not the social chat, its the boring 1 lines(or larger for that matter) that has no info or only agree to something. And those that think they are better and/or more correct then others.

This is thread is also just chatter based on some wierd wish to ban someone, now peppered with a little bit of "personal" attacks between mods.

reflections, nice word

So why do we complain about other people posting crap?

Because we can.
This. The nature of freedom.
The nature of life.
Through humiliation we force conformation to the social pact.
Just as the child is traumatized by his icky-bad poo poo we must potty-train the social gobblers of their inanity. The problem is, of course, that in doing it this way we risk creating an excessive stigma on something which should rather merely be viewed with caution than pure abstinence, but so be it. You got any better ideas?


Aside: I love the moderator quarrel going on. Keep it up. It's lovely. The teats of our goddess of wisdom are surely beginning to show their sag lines.

Invert : what is this humiliatinon idea your so facinated by, i find it quite strange.

Maybe the problem is we think we are so good that we are incapable of making mistakes and there by able to have a forum with out moderation, we are not and the sooner we realize that the better.

1 solution is heavy moderation of the main subforums to keep the level of pointless chatter at a minimum, keep "free thougths" as is but change "cesspoll" to a "free for all" with no rules and no whiners and no mods(unless in extreme circumstances), or delete it completly.

"Wrong", you say?

Oh, I'm sorry for knowing my Italian then, and assuming you're a man -- if you actually READ Italian, as you say, you'd still know that calling yourself "spesso sbagliato" -- with the o -- means you are of masculine gender... ahem... And I'm still offended by the fact that you don't want to "catch anything" by taking a token of affection from me.

And I still say if you find it offensive to post in other languages, I fail to see what's up with the "spesso sbagliato" thing. Sir.

Or, if it's referring to a gender indifferent object, it defaults to the masculine. When I first came to sciforums, I didn't want to be judged as female because I didn't want the games that people play along with it. I never bothered to change it, because it wasn't important. You are just being petty and picking on one thing. I noticed however, that you barely denied any of the other things I had said, nor have you proved them otherwise. When is your last post, by the way?

I don't care if you are offended. Or maybe that wasn't entirely clear?

Whitewolf- Sciforums. Not Chatforums.

Kunax,


what is this humiliatinon idea your so facinated by, i find it quite strange.

How were you potty-trained?

I noticed however, that you barely denied any of the other things I had said, nor have you proved them otherwise. When is your last post, by the way? I don't care if you are offended. Or maybe that wasn't entirely clear? Whitewolf- Sciforums. Not Chatforums.

a) I think you have a crush on me, for sure
b) Offended - DUH! Yes, I was really, really serious about you offending me.
c) I already "denied" the other things you said -- you want me to repeat it ad nauseum.
d) Don't worry -- it'll all work out, Sbagliatina. *SMOOCH!*

Et oui, tu m'aimes. My God -- wow.

How rude -- I know, I know. Speaking French and all when others are just calling each other "fucking dogs" "faggots" etc. :D

Anywho... *yawn* I'm off to teach a class.

They come back... they always come back...Told ya:)

This thread's title should be more like:
Pixel puts Sciforums on trial, Sciforums falters.

Overreaction aside, this self examination may yet become healthy.
I noticed Chickydoo was the only new member for almost 2 weeks.
Got me thinking of a dying horse.
Something's got to be done right?

I have enjoyed many good conversations with some of you in my 5 months here.
-and seen a great host of idiocy, invective, ad hominem, purility, etc..
I thought that was just how it was here.
The first thread I was on was locked down despite good points being discussed.
Skeptical mod and buddies didn't like my points, insulted me and locked the thread. I stopped posting in that forum.
It's a big web, no big deal. But disappointing.

Perhaps a new thread, How to save the sliding quality of sciforums, or something.

On topic- get serious, pixel is a normal SF poster, as far as I've seen

I dont really know pixel and havent read many of her posts, so my comments are more aimed at the general theme of this thread.

As one of the less learned members of this forum i value having access to people more knowledgable than myself. Just recently a few guys here helped me out with a virus problem i was having which i probably wouldn't have been able to fix without their advice. I value that.

I think its a good mix in sciforums. You have serious threads which i enjoy reading, admittedly I rarely have anything worth contributing, but i value having access to them nevertheless. Then you also have the more creative and lighthearted threads involving a more social aspect with the sharing of ideas, opinions and having a bit of a laugh. its the combination of the two which makes this site work so well.

I can see how frustrating it would be if you're trying to have a serious discussion and some pleb keeps on popping up with inane irrelevant comments, so if i've got a stupid question to ask, unless its a quick one requiring only a short answer, i start my own thread.

Just delete the distruptive posts where possible and totally ignore the ones the mods miss. If they dont get any reaction whatsoever to their stupid posts the plebs will get the message eventually and move on to elsewhere where they do get a reaction.

Pixel:
If you could stop using emotes, that'd be frellin great. Things like ~*smooches*~ aren't for here. It shows a basic inanity of the person posting; a laziness that finds it easier to supsend nouns and verbs by symmetric symbols rather than express literally.

Perhaps you are intelligent, Pixel, and from what I read, you could be. However, your minor expressions of "I laughed for five minutes" and childish punctuation are exactly what we're all here to escape from. We're here to escape from the drama of our personal lives and the idiots that surround us. We aren't here to chat. Chat is secondary or tertiary.

I'll admit that I've posted my good share of inanity, but Sciforums is really my first time venturing out on the great WWW– I'm still learning to speak HTML. However, when you seek acceptance to any group, you must abide by the group's rules. I find it's better for eveyone when I shut up and only read. I delete half of my posts before I even post them. For all 500 or so posts, I almost posted something else but deleted it because it was unvaluable. I find myself more and more often writing a draft before I post, simply so I can be succinct and pertinet to what's at hand.

But I'm no model of an ideal poster, just dig around. Actually, I already put some bullshit in free thoughts.

Maybe you could cut the bullshit and either post less inanity and more maturity, or just post less.

So Pixel, you've said it yourself, you're just a persona, and despite what you say, you are hurt by this. I understand you wanting to leave a community where its prominent members have rejected you. I also understand your reluctance; sciforums is a quality place. You could find yourself another persona and return less verbose, with Pixel's remaining pride intact and a second chance for a first impression.

Oh, you mean I'm not getting some members' approval and I should change and stop using the emotes and punctuating and stuff? Um, I'm not changing any online persona all of a sudden because the punctuation makes people's nose bleed. If I gave a rat's butt, I'd have cowered in the corner and been sombre, as requested. ??!?!?!??!? !?!?#%@#^ *@ $^@#!

Ah God. Salt, you shouldn't have started this thread, because it only motivated me to post when I was otherwise too busy.

Alright, I think I've said everything I'm remotely interested in saying. I promised this was the last thread I'd post in. Tell you what. Stop motivating me, and it'll work out great. I'm actually kind of tired.

How were you potty-trained?

Most defently not by being humiliated, that is just stupid period.



Through humiliation we force conformation to the social pact.

I think you forget that at the end of the day, this place is nothing more but a few bytes of data on a server farfar away, nothing here has any concequence at all, you cannot humiliate those that seek to have/make fun of/with others, you only risk goating them on, while possible createing a bad enviremt where those that don't submit to the commen way of thinking gets hammered and those that remain just keeps on pathing each other on the back. The problem will still remains.

Roman: Since this is your "first time" on the www using a forum, you should be aware of that this community here is nothing special, there are several million forum communities out there, some better some worse, but sciforum is nothing special. It does how ever have a nice selection of subforums, with or without good stuff in them, you be your own judge of that.

I also dont understand your need to bend to the will of the group, why accept the group if they cannot accept you for who you are, who are you if you are what others make you?.

Pixel
I think, if SciForums were to take Lou Natic’s offer to weasel out anybody who’s having some fun or being controversial, you’d lose your “community” and end up with a bunch of grey buzzing drones spewing out calculations and data. You can go to a textbook for that, or chat with a bot.

Most people here -- and how we luv 'em all, dear little lambs -- are a bunch of tedious hypocrites and I wouldn't invite 'em to crash at anybody's penthouse party -- unless it were to jinx the midnight rave. It took me a while to perceive it all, but it soon became clear. Over the last three years that I've been coming here, I dropped, and experimented with (now less creatively than before), different styles and mannerisms (because the inspiration has waned), and, likewise, noticed a few other like-minded creative spirits (no, gendanken -- not you), with an enthusiasm that was creatively contagious; a sort of cyber anti-art form that I was hoping to get into. But no sooner did things start to light up for me in the earlier months, and no sooner did I get attacked for my "new wardrobe", that I noticed other posters "adopting" similar attitudes -- and words -- (their versions) to color their own "creative" expressionisms. Now, though, (and this is so stomach wrenching) I notice how new comers have unwittingly "taken on" other (popular) posters' mannerisms, like *grin*, yes?

Bottom-line: hypocrites because their "cool" rapping and "cool" attitudes and "cool" ideas are direct contradictions to their actions!

Substrata-line: ILikeSalt says: I don't like Pixel. Pixel made fun of gendanken. Pixel had a smart chat with Xev. ILikeGendanken. Genilikesalten.

Pixel:
If you could stop using emotes, that'd be frellin great. Things like ~*smooches*~ aren't for here. It shows a basic inanity of the person posting; a laziness that finds it easier to supsend nouns and verbs by symmetric symbols rather than express literally.

Perhaps you are intelligent, Pixel, and from what I read, you could be. However, your minor expressions of "I laughed for five minutes" and childish punctuation are exactly what we're all here to escape from. We're here to escape from the drama of our personal lives and the idiots that surround us. We aren't here to chat. Chat is secondary or tertiary.

Perhaps you, sir, have forgotten the most important thing in life -> to enjoy it.
Now I leave and will laugh at you for 7 minutes.

Yeah the depressed creeps want others to be depressed too, for some dumb reason. Let 'em laugh and be happy that others know how to be happy, unlike you.

I still say that since there's no reason to ban we lock this thread which is approaching its 3rd page, 30 posts/pg.

It is quite unlikely that anyone gets banned by public vote. Anyway, I would not defend this member.

Perhaps you also wanted to list this thread: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=42640

Mmh, I was sooo right...

And no defense was needed.

There is nothing in that thread that is against site rules. Either try to squeeze out some substance, or admit you were wrong and leave her alone.

Of course there is not, that is why there will be no ban...

There is nothing in that thread that is against site rules. Either try to squeeze out some substance, or admit you were wrong and leave her alone.

Don't get it yet?
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT PIXEL! LET HER ROT OR NOT! NO ONE CARES!
She's an overreacting little piece of shit and that's all.
"Oh. So you're gonna ban me? LOL! Well. I was done with this place anyways! Bye! Oh wait. Last thing. You all suck. Bye. Oh. Wait. My MSN handle is still in my profile for all interested. Bye! Oh wait. Stop talking to me. Bye."
Ha!
Know what would have happened to this thread if she hadn't thrown her little bitch fit?
Hmm?
NOTHING.
NOBODY CARES!!!!

What we care about is the quality of this forum. And, Pixel is not behind the degradation of recent days. Nor is she really a symptom of it. She is just more noticeable because of it.

That's all.


Kunax,


Most defently not by being humiliated, that is just stupid period.

Hmmm. Interesting. Maybe they do things different over there in Denmark. No icky-bad poo poo for you then?

So, I repeat. How were you potty trained? Reasoned into it? "Dear baby. One should realize that shitting in one's pants, while certainly exciting and a touch invigorating, is hardly a thing any well-mannered child should do, except for on those occasions when one just really can't help oneself. We, your wonderful parents, would be ever so grateful if you would sit on this potty and please do your business here. You see, child, it's ever so much trouble for us to wipe your ass constantly. Especially now that you're 15 years old and all. So, please. Stop shitting your pants. Ok?"

Seriously. I understand that one can't be humiliated here in the same way as one can be in the real world, but the principle stands. Humiliation goes a lot further to character manipulation than threats.


Since this is your "first time" on the www using a forum, you should be aware of that this community here is nothing special, there are several million forum communities out there, some better some worse, but sciforum is nothing special. It does how ever have a nice selection of subforums, with or without good stuff in them, you be your own judge of that.

Oh? Well, maybe not to you. I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is something special. It's the best forum I've come across. I guess this explains the difference in our attitudes. I care. You don't.


I also dont understand your need to bend to the will of the group, why accept the group if they cannot accept you for who you are, who are you if you are what others make you?.

Quite right. But does that mean that you would be ok with all the rofl-ers taking over?

See, here's the divide. Is the problem the presence of the inane or the lack of creative new threads at the moment? Does one influence the other? Or is one just more noticeable when the other is less?

I suspect that the inaniacs are not really the problem. However, they do need to be taught to keep their inanities in inane forums.

Remember, this Pixel under discussion (well, not really) is the same Pixel that started the "So, who's hot?" thread in General Science. Anyone remember that? Ok. So maybe she got the point. One thing that is guaranteed. If she didn't before, she does now. And if she continues to spout inane dribble in the wrong places then what happens is nobody's fault but her own. While no one has been banned by poll before (hence your overreaction, Pixel), they have been spontaneously banned for being extreme idiots and constantly posting inane threads.

So, let's just let this play itself out.

Android,


Substrata-line: ILikeSalt says: I don't like Pixel. Pixel made fun of gendanken. Pixel had a smart chat with Xev. ILikeGendanken. Genilikesalten.

Ha!
Ha ha!
That's some funny shit.
So, this is now about Gendanken?
Ha!!
You're a funny little robot.

(Clue. It was me that jumped her for her reaction to Gendanken. And not to 'defend' Gendanken either. I think that everyone here is fully aware that she is able to take care of herself. I did it because I was feeling shitty about the slump. And I blamed her and those like her. Pixel made me look on JadedFlower in a whole new light.

Anyway, I also apologized to her and told her that I wasn't really angry at her but at the condition of the forums. She forgets to mention that part.)

And a smart talk with Xev?
Now that was just.... odd. It didn't seem smart at all. It seemed rather like girly chat and advice you'd hear on Oprah and yet... Xev didn't attack her. I thought to myself, is something wrong with Xev? But no. Here she is attacking Hypatia and Hypatia's comments were far more intelligent and non-chatty than Pixel's.
It was surreal somehow.
Some very weird shit.
Gave me goosebumps.


Now, though, (and this is so stomach wrenching) I notice how new comers have unwittingly "taken on" other (popular) posters' mannerisms, like *grin*, yes?

You really have a thing for her, don't you? Did she almost tempt you from your homosexuality?
Seriously. 'Yes?' is a common enough phrase. And how many *grin*'s do you see? I sure as hell don't see many.
Anyway, what do you expect? When people talk to each other they tend to adopt each others words and sometimes some of their mannerisms. So what?
It's called human nature. Heard of it?
It doesn't mean that anyone is becoming a doppelganger of anyone else.
You see, Android (or should I call you Andy just to be a doppelganger?), while maybe you are affecting a 'persona' and carefully choose your words to be something that you're not, some just be themselves.
Gasp.
Can it be true?
That there are those who are not affecting some devious alter ego and are not just carefully culling phrases and euphemisms as a process of becoming a more complete created Frankenstein?

It's so pathetic that anyone would pretend to be something that they're not. To be a 'persona'.

... fine, no ban ...

What we care about is the quality of this forum.

Invert overreacted, heheh! Hush, babe, hush! Let me repeat again,
THERE IS NOTHING IN THE SITE RULES THAT SAYS THAT POSTERS CAN'T POST CRAP, OR THAT THEY HAVE TO POST SCIENCE ONLY OR SCIENCE MOSTLY!

MY POST IS THE LAST POST IN THIS THREAD BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS. Go take care of thanksgiving, you lifeless thoughtless folk.

Invert made me use the shift key /snif.

It is true that there is no rule against posting crap therefore I guess I retract my suggestion. We do have to admit that a lot of it is crap though :)

Invert overreacted, heheh! Hush, babe, hush! Let me repeat again,

Why did you repeat? Did I say anything that tried to contradict what you said about rules and so you felt the need to repeat?

It's not about rules. It's not even about Pixel since we all know that she's not going to get banned in here.

I am saying you can do absolutely nothing about crap posted by anyone because there is no specifications against crap. Nowhere does it say that idiots can't post here. No, you can't even flame them a little, because that is against the rules. Crap can only be moved, which is what is being done at our mods' best ability. And since nothing more can be done there's nothing to discuss. If you don't like reading crap, don't read it, that is all.

Ahh. Well, that's better than just repeating what you said earlier about rules.

That's the thing. Maybe we should be allowed to 'flame' them. Send the little kiddies on their way. Traumatize them from their inanity.

However, I also have said that they aren't the problem. They are merely more noticeable because of the slump. So, basically, I'm saying the same thing that you are. Lay off the brats. But, if they post in the wrong place then we should jump all over them like stink on shit.

But, you want the last word. Is that it?
Better hurry, the thread might be locked any minute now if there's a supermod roving around.
I'll let you have it. I've said everything I want to say.

If you allow flaming "idiots", we will flame all around first. Xev and Gendy will be the center of flaming attention, among some others, and the entire Sci gang will be in one huge mob fight. That was the initial reason why the "no flame" rule was made. And, I have to note, the Politics section got much better. Better without flaming, really.

Xev and Gendy will be the center of flaming attention

Nice pun.

And, you make an excellent point. While a little flame war now and again is nice, declaring it open and full flame season then things would likely spiral out of control.

There is a split between too much enforcement by mods and not enough just as there is a split between too much enforcement by users and not enough.

A delicate balance all in all.

And, truthfully, the inane aren't really the problem as long as they stay out of the way.

So...

Get out there and make some interesting threads, people!!! Let's show the idiots what for by not being idiots ourselves.

Get out there and make some interesting threads, people!!! Let's show the idiots what for by not being idiots ourselves.

And a good idea that is.

I also dont understand your need to bend to the will of the group, why accept the group if they cannot accept you for who you are, who are you if you are what others make you?

Who would you be without anyone?

Obviously there's a balance between conforming and staying an individual.
But when the goal of the group is intelligent discussion, whether explicit or implicitly implied, you tone down the ~*kisses*~ or foster resentment and "Ban X" polls.

Conform or leave.

Oh and Kunax, if you disagree with the above line, and decide it's worth arguing over, you'll argue against me (I dearly hope) in a rational, thoughtful way free of emotes and overly aggressive attacks on me, or defensive stuff like "I don't care, so there." You'll probably also conform your free happy spirit to using proper grammar, spelling and punctuation.

I do like having the abstain option in the poll.

Oh yes, but I did not vote anyway, that would have been wasted energy. :D oh wait, this post also is... ah damn, than a bit more won't hurt.

I see there's more posts. So it's not done yet?


Don't get it yet? NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT PIXEL! LET HER ROT OR NOT! NO ONE CARES! She's an overreacting little piece of shit and that's all. "Oh. So you're gonna ban me? LOL! Well. I was done with this place anyways! Bye! Oh wait. Last thing. You all suck. Bye. Oh. Wait. My MSN handle is still in my profile for all interested. Bye! Oh wait. Stop talking to me. Bye." Ha! Know what would have happened to this thread if she hadn't thrown her little bitch fit? Hmm? NOTHING. NOBODY CARES!!!!

If you keep spazzing out like that, you're going to have a heart attack before you hit 13. Chill out.

So, I feel motivated right now.

I don't "LOL". What the fuck's up with you ranters -- at least be accurate if you're going to pretend to be in a blinding rage over my Cesspool posts. I also didn't spaz out, personally attack anyone, or engage in mob-type stonings.


What we care about is the quality of this forum. And, Pixel is not behind the degradation of recent days. Nor is she really a symptom of it. She is just more noticeable because of it. That's all.

Aw shit. You sure this isn't about me personally? You mean I've been standing guard here at this post -- for how many days now? -- duelling with every foaming-at-the-mouth sap that took a turn charging at pixel with sharp instruments, all for something that isn't about me? ::kicks air:: LOL ROFLMAO *SMOOCH!* :) :( :D!!!%?!!


Seriously. I understand that one can't be humiliated here in the same way as one can be in the real world, but the principle stands. Humiliation goes a lot further to character manipulation than threats.

Um. That's assuming you could humiliate someone if you tried, with your spaz-assed freak-outs. I think someone is made to look like a fool, anyway...


Remember, this Pixel under discussion (well, not really) is the same Pixel that started the "So, who's hot?" thread in General Science. Anyone remember that? Ok. So maybe she got the point. One thing that is guaranteed. If she didn't before, she does now.

Can you put that in writing. The guarantee, I mean? Oh, and while you're at it, can you get Roman to guarantee that anyone is "hurt" by being "rejected" by some members?


And if she continues to spout inane dribble in the wrong places then what happens is nobody's fault but her own. While no one has been banned by poll before (hence your overreaction, Pixel), they have been spontaneously banned for being extreme idiots and constantly posting inane threads.

Overreaction meaning... responding to posts about pixel, you mean? Or what. 'Cause I'm not the one throwing out insult after insult after insult here, foaming at the mouth.


So, let's just let this play itself out.

Genius.


Android, I also apologized to her and told her that I wasn't really angry at her but at the condition of the forums. She forgets to mention that part.)

Oh, I didn't forget. It was immaterial in that context. See, the point wasn't to list all offenses and ensuing apologies. I was merely making the point that I got jumped on for saying I laughed, right off the bat -- that's when you started that rofl lolakfjlajffj spewage-o'-crap. I think you have a crush on Gendaken, personally.

See, here's the thing. Watching the "serious" ones get their panties in a snit rather makes me laugh, and you "serious" lot shouldn't have gotten so worked up -- it only provokes me, and "others like me", I'm very sure.


And a smart talk with Xev? Now that was just.... odd. It didn't seem smart at all. It seemed rather like girly chat and advice you'd hear on Oprah and yet... Xev didn't attack her. I thought to myself, is something wrong with Xev? But no. Here she is attacking Hypatia and Hypatia's comments were far more intelligent and non-chatty than Pixel's. It was surreal somehow. Some very weird shit. Gave me goosebumps.

Ew. You're acting like a girl.


You really have a thing for her, don't you? Did she almost tempt you from your homosexuality?

See, now that's the kind of thing you don't need more of around here. Joking-but-not, trying-to-be-smart-and-funny, but not.


It's called human nature. Heard of it? It doesn't mean that anyone is becoming a doppelganger of anyone else. You see, Android (or should I call you Andy just to be a doppelganger?), while maybe you are affecting a 'persona' and carefully choose your words to be something that you're not, some just be themselves. Gasp. Can it be true?

Ew again. You don't do sarcasm very well. Especially that affected drama to make a point thing. Stick to spewing or bland posting, I'd say. Also, to be perfectly frank, I'd stay away from Android -- you'll never quite come close to outjousting him verbally. Not to kiss ass or anything, but I happen to be an authority on linguistic ability, on various counts. He's actually smart AND funny and knows how to wield language like a big stick. That's why I actually laughed for those 5 apparently very offensive minutes.


It's so pathetic that anyone would pretend to be something that they're not. To be a 'persona'.

Hey. Some people got enough personality that they can compartmentalize and expand at will. Others are struggling with half of one -- and online, to boot.

OK, anybody else gonna run at me with a sharp object? Ffff...

Let's compare this:

::kicks air:: LOL ROFLMAO *SMOOCH!*

To this:

Oh, I didn't forget. It was immaterial in that context. See, the point wasn't to list all offenses and ensuing apologies. I was merely making the point that I got jumped on for saying I laughed, right off the bat -- that's when you started that rofl lolakfjlajffj spewage-o'-crap. I think you have a crush on Gendaken, personally.

See, here's the thing. Watching the "serious" ones get their panties in a snit rather makes me laugh, and you "serious" lot shouldn't have gotten so worked up -- it only provokes me, and "others like me", I'm very sure.


Pixel is very well capable of contributing to intelligent discussion. She's only posted 127 times, and a bunch of those were here. Pixel has yet to finish making a first impression or whateve.
She'll do better, if she chooses to continue returning, which I think she will.

Pixel:
My suggestion that you get a new persona was rather a selfish one. I don't want you to go. The poll will not get you banned (I haven't voted in it yet), so the only reason you'd leave was because some of us are being dicks, and you no longer wanted to hang out with.
I was also thinking that if I claimed to leave forever a bunch of times, and then came back, my pride would be hurt very seriously. If you don't have a pride complex, that's great, no worries, yada yada yada.

I see there's more posts. So it's not done yet?

It shall never be done, fair Pixel, for thou art the center of our very existence.


If you keep spazzing out like that, you're going to have a heart attack before you hit 13. Chill out.

Ah. Touche. Spazz. Like gag me with a spoon, chicky. You've beaten me to the core.


So, I feel motivated right now.

Of course you do.


Aw shit. You sure this isn't about me personally? You mean I've been standing guard here at this post -- for how many days now? -- duelling with every foaming-at-the-mouth sap that took a turn charging at pixel with sharp instruments, all for something that isn't about me? ::kicks air:: LOL ROFLMAO *SMOOCH!* !!!%?!!

That's right. You've been standing guard against nothing. It's quite funny actually. I've told you this several times.

No one cares about you. (Better? No caps? Am I spazzing, dear?)


Um. That's assuming you could humiliate someone if you tried, with your spaz-assed freak-outs. I think someone is made to look like a fool, anyway...

This is of course the problem with such a tactic, especially online where you can't look in the eyes and smell the reactions of other. They can merely claim this nonchalance.

"I don't care. Really, I don't. You're the foolish one, not I. I'm rubber and you're glue..."


Can you put that in writing. The guarantee, I mean?

Ok. Go ahead and go start a spam brigade then. I dare you.


Overreaction meaning... responding to posts about pixel, you mean? Or what. 'Cause I'm not the one throwing out insult after insult after insult here, foaming at the mouth.

Overreacting meaning throwing up a huge drama fest about how you're never coming back and blah blah blah because a few people have stated that they don't like your 'contributions' to the forum.

And, no one's foaming at the mouth. No one really cares.


Genius.

I know.


See, the point wasn't to list all offenses and ensuing apologies. I was merely making the point that I got jumped on for saying I laughed, right off the bat -- that's when you started that rofl lolakfjlajffj spewage-o'-crap.

That post was merely the proverbial straw. Everything I had read from you before that was equally crap and so when I saw that post it was just too much for me.


I think you have a crush on Gendaken, personally.

I love her to the very depths of my soul and all that stuff.


See, here's the thing. Watching the "serious" ones get their panties in a snit rather makes me laugh, and you "serious" lot shouldn't have gotten so worked up -- it only provokes me, and "others like me", I'm very sure.

Yes. It provokes you into making such dramatic pronouncements as "I'm never coming back!" And "I was leaving anyway and the only reason that I'm still here is because of all this hilarity. You make me laugh and laugh and laugh."


Ew. You're acting like a girl.

Oh? Elaborate. By noticing the oddity of the way in which Xev talked to you? You should know that Xev is one of those that usually eats little girls like you for breakfast.


See, now that's the kind of thing you need more of around here. Joking, but not, trying to be smart and funny, but not.

Oh. She wounds me. How can I recover?

I'm not trying to do shit. I leave that to you 'personas'.


but I happen to be an authority on linguistic ability.

Of course you are. That's why you've contributed so wonderfully to all the linguistic threads here and there. You're a linguistics expert.

Oh. You mean you talk a lot? Blah blah blah. So do chimpanzees and they say about as much as you do.


You're mediocre at best. I guess that's why you need to spew and foam, to really get the point across.

You have no clue what I am, little girl. I'm usually a polite person and even a joker. I don't mind that people joke around. I never said that I did. What I mind is people that ONLY joke around and say nothing worthwhile.


Hey. Some people got enough personality that they can compartmentalize and expand. Others are struggling with half of one -- and online, to boot.

Yes. Some people have so much personality that they don't like the one they have and try to create another one. Especially online where no one can see your cellulite.


OK, anybody else gonna run at me with a sharp object? Ffff...

Only as long as you make yourself a target with your dramatics.

Roman:


Let's compare this: ::kicks air:: LOL ROFLMAO *SMOOCH!*

Well but this: "::kicks air:: LOL ROFLMAO *SMOOCH!*" was only me being what some people are telling me I am -- it wasn't at all "pixel".


Pixel is very well capable of contributing to intelligent discussion. She's only posted 127 times, and a bunch of those were here. Pixel has yet to finish making a first impression or whatever.
She'll do better, if she chooses to continue returning, which I think she will.

That feels exactly like a report card, and is closer to making me feel humiliated than any ranting ever could.


The poll will not get you banned (I haven't voted in it yet), so the only reason you'd leave was because some of us are being dicks, and you no longer wanted to hang out with. I was also thinking that if I claimed to leave forever a bunch of times, and then came back, my pride would be hurt very seriously. If you don't have a pride complex, that's great, no worries, yada yada yada.

I really do appreciate that. I just didn't think I'd get banned. I said I was splitting for afore-mentioned reasons, but I didn't mention I actually have no interest in shoving any online character that surfaces from my psychology, down anyone's throat. It's YOUR community. Not mine. And if I had any real pride vested in this (beyond a petty desire to dish it back out to some hopping-mad-for-any-cause nut cases for a little while), I might have my tail between my legs. But I've got my tail raised high to expose my ass to the inverted ranters, just like those domestic cats mentioned in the Biology forum. And speaking of asses, yes I think several prominent members are not really what I'd like to spend my increasingly scarce free time on. (Invert, while we're on the subject of asses: I figure lack of ass and lack of potential of ever having ass is the only thing that can make someone so socially repulsive that it even radiates online.)

Anyway (Roman) I realize you're not asking for an explanation but I do appreciate what you've said, for what it's worth, embedded as it is within a slap on the wrist and a subtle insistence that I become something other than pixel around these parts. I'm here as pixel, at least until this thread's locked, and pixel is an infringement upon the values of your sometimes cool community. Pixel's what I am online at this point. (And I have no interest in being "me" here -- I'm me everywhere else. I have feeling none of you characters are true representatives of your real selves -- you wouldn't have lunged at me in real life. I'd bet anything on it.)

In will be interesting to see who "adopts" the persona of maturity first.

Goofy,


In will be interesting to see who "adopts" the persona of maturity first.

I feel that I was mature until Pixel brought up more of her dramatics. I've said time and time again that it's not even about her. The LOL and the ROFL is about a general trend. Not about her. But, she insists on taking everything personally. I've also said, time and time again, that inane posters aren't really the problem. They're just more noticeable at present.

But, she has this wonderful stance of "Pixel against the 'uptight assholes' of sciforums" and takes everything personally.

Seriously, have any posters really said anything bad about Pixel in this thread? Well, I have recently but before that I said little about her.

(Funny that you didn't lock the thread though. The thread starter has retracted her wish to ban Pixel, you know.)

Pixel,


Invert: DUH. Ew. Gag. I swear to Gawd, dude, you gross me out.

Of course I do. It's called a coping mechanism.

Now, why don't you go and show your wonderful lingustic skills or are you just blowing smoke out of your ass?
If you are really knowledgeable in liguistics then RosaMajika might be interested in talking to you. But, maybe not, I think she might be a touch burned on linguistic conversations.
If you are knowledgeable in linguistics, then I would also be interested in talking to you. I'm no expert, but language and the brain is one of my areas of interest and is a topic that comes up often.

Or you can start another thread on where the cute guys are.
Or make good on your 'threat' to leave the forums.
Your choice.
I guess it all depends on your interests.
What are you really interested in? What do you come to SciForums for? (Other than to reply in 'this thread'?)


*shudder* ew gag me with a spoon duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!

I LOVE how you repeat yourself for emphasis. Two uses of gag me with a spoon and two instances of duh. And two ew's. Beginning and end. Wonderful harmony of linguistic skills. You are truly a master.

Surprised you didn't use spazz a single time.

Hmh. Well, Invert, life is just so beautiful. I'm just hurt that you don't understand me, that's all. Spaz is spelled with one z.

Spaz isn't even a real word. You can spell it however you want. It should be spelled with an s as it comes from the word spastic.

And as to understanding. You're right. I don't. But, how can I? You're a persona. Aren't you?

Seriously, Pixel. My intent was never to get into a flame war with you or even to insult you. I apologized already for the first time that I 'went off' on you and I never tried to make my presence in this thread a repeat of that original attack.

I repeat. It's not about you. Even though your name is on the thread title, it's not about you. Your dramatics have certainly come into play, but it's about the state of the forums. That's all.

And, as to the number of ban polls. Actually, you should have been here a few months back. This subforum was full of them. People were even starting polls to ban themselves thus starting a rule that if you seek self-banishment, your request is immediately granted by the supermods.

Anyway, go or not. Just don't feel that anyone is pushing you out the door. You make your own choices. Period.

Edit: Ha! Looked up spaz on dictionary.com for the hell of it and guess what? It's spaz or spazz. So there...

Independent of your last post, I was going to go in and delete some of the more assinine comments I made in the past half hour in your direction. Not that it matters to the forum or its members. It matters to me, for whatever reasons I don't have time to consider right now. That was puerile, actually, and not the same as the cesspool stuff. Makes me feel fucked, really.

Don't worry about it. It's cool.

And, just so you know. I voted no. I voted no the first time that I opened this poll and looked inside. And my opinion has never changed throughout even with the dramatics.

I think this thread should be locked because if the 'dramatics'. Sorry for the disruption.