Ban Proud Non-Muslim, Kiwi123, Colmar, Fabiana, and Paulina.

For all the reasons people wanted P_M banned.

Furthermore, Proud Non-Muslim's already posted the same link three times, Colmar's posted two threads dealing with the alleged use of ambulances by Palestinians, and as Arditeza mentioned, there's a good chance all of these screen names belong to one user (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=595812#post595812), especially since they seem to cling around each other's threads.

Proud Non-Muslim's post history: http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=101872

Kiwi123's post history: http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=101873

Colmar's post history: http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=101874

Fabiana's post history: http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=101878

Paulina's post history: http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?searchid=101877

Agreed... Can you make a thread with a poll?

Should have fixed that.

I agree. This is getting ridiculous.

Maybe they can be warned and we'll see if their behavior changes.

I think not.

Never know 'til it's tried. I kinda doubt it, too. But I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway, I'll wait to cast my vote and see what happens.

Well since these are all secondary accounts we are giving them a second chance by only banning these accounts and not the main one.

I believe PM didn't get banned for these actions. He got a temporarily ban for not obeying instructions by the moderators repeatedly.


If we want the same treatment then we are in for a long process and lots of stupid posts.

If they are proven to be secondary accounts, which is likely in at least a couple of the cases, then ban away.

i dont really think theyve done too much wrong, posting one link three times isnt bad, unless you do it repeadedly, give them a month and see if they get better

The cross-posting actually leads one to believe that they aren't double accounts. If they were member who understood how the board works, they wouldn't cross-post so much to get their post count up. NPM is down to 7 now because of threads moved to cesspool.

The people mentioned in the first post share common IP addresses. Now that could mean a couple of things:

1. They are the same person.
2. They share a common ISP.

I now invite the people concerned to confirm or deny that they are the same person.

I believe PM didn't get banned for these actions. He got a temporarily ban for not obeying instructions by the moderators repeatedly.


If we want the same treatment then we are in for a long process and lots of stupid posts.

Fair enough.


The cross-posting actually leads one to believe that they aren't double accounts. If they were member who understood how the board works, they wouldn't cross-post so much to get their post count up. NPM is down to 7 now because of threads moved to cesspool.

You don't find it all suspicious that six accounts appear on the same day, all parroting the same rabdily anti-Muslim hatred?

Paulina's been around a while. I think, or am I mixing up a name here?

Anyway, I'm not in a position to speculate on user accounts. Would have to do an IP trace. It's possible that they are a group of friends that come from seperate IP addresses? Who knows? I do find it suspicious though. Certainly enough so to be looked into.

James, they all signed up today. They all voted in the same poll. They even have similar posting styles:

All colmar posts have are links:

Time to get off those stupid old sick lies on: The Holy Great Beautiful Talmud
Talmud = Peace!

This one is an earlier fact:
http://www.israel-embassy.org.uk/web/pages/infomed.htm
-------------------
This is now:

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=62539

IMRA - Sunday, May 23, 2004 Official IDF Source Confirms: Have Photos of Palestinians Killing 2 Palestinian Children

http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=20934

Then they try to blame Victim Innocent Israel???
http://www.inhonor.net

This is someone trying to push their post count up. This is the same crap that others are posting.

Proud Non-Muslim:

Is there 1 Place that Muslims are innocent on earth?

<a href="http://www.bluestarbase.org/unholyislam.htm">Unholy Islam : On the Record </a>
?"peaceful"?
When?
Where?
What?

Unholy Islam : On the Record
?"peaceful"?
When?
Where?
What?

<a href="http://www.bluestarbase.org/unholyislam.htm">Unholy Islam : On the Record </a>
?"peaceful"?
When?
Where?
What?

They all share the same agenda, they all share the same IP, they all joined yesterday, they all voted in the same poll. This is so obvious that you shouldn't even have to ask that question.

Paulina's been around a while. I think, or am I mixing up a name here?

Anyway, I'm not in a position to speculate on user accounts. Would have to do an IP trace. It's possible that they are a group of friends that come from seperate IP addresses? Who knows? I do find it suspicious though. Certainly enough so to be looked into.

The new Paulina signed up yesterday and started this thread:

We sure do remember the Muhammad Al Dura Arab Crime, after they've sucked our tears out, it has been proven that Arabs have killed him, Was it also all staged to pin on the Zionists?
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=36905

She/he/it shares the same IP as the others and is posting the same content.

Need I notate how she writes just like PM?

Thank you for posting the truth, we realize how THEY (Arab Propagandists) try to deny it, it won't work!
THEY ARE THEV GUILTY PARTY IN THAT CONFLICT, END OF STORY.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=595508#post595508

I missed James' post above. Ok, they're the same. Ban away.

edit: Do they have the same IP as an existing member by any chance?

The new Paulina signed up yesterday and started this thread:

Yeah, I'm mixing her up with another poster.



Edit: And I didn't doubt the similarities or the join date and all that, but the evidence that was needed was the IP evidence. Now that we've got that it's settled.

Invert, they all share IPs with some other posters, though. This is why James raised that question. But I know, and anyone can tell, that they're all the same person. It's so obvious... Ban. Permanently ban. They're spamming the board with their propaganda (In every thread, even starting stupid threads), inciting flames, interfering with polls, etc. Multiple accounts are not allowed either.

Time to shut them down. Abuse of the board and loss of board privilages is the result.

One person shouldn't be allowed to hold the place hostage. That kind of behaviour is juvenile anyhow.

I think the primary accounts in all these cases should also be summarily banned due to trying to throw the vote, and creating multiple accounts which are ALL bannable offenses.

42% of your posts have been in 'Ban and impeach threads'.

I don't have a problem with that. It's a matter of giving people a fair shake around here. Something that it's painfully obvious doesn't happen all the time in Sciforums. When you people don't like someone, you harrass them until they leave or until they lose control. Most of you are nothing more than a bunch of bullies with nothing better to do. :)

Apparently you do however, since you took the time to do the math to point it out. Still working on those "more than two line" posts issue?

Ban them.
Straight AFTER you ban PM, and not a fucking second before.
This goes back to my 'ban no one untill they are worse than PM' proposal. Which was entirely valid.
If I make a 'proud canine' character and spam the board with news articles on dog abuse and anti-cat propoganda I'm entirely within my rights as a sciforums member, UNTILL proud muslim is gone.

Normally I would agree with Dr Lou on this. But I think that 5 or 6 accounts, all handled by the same person and only used to sprout propaganda and anti PM posts, are way over the limit of tolerance. Whoever created them is worse than PM, cause PM exists only one time (I hope), and he did not talk with himself to sway others to his view.

actually Lou, i think PM is gone

*dances*

cos i havent seen him since he got the 3 day ban, that was probably a week ago now

He'll be back :mad:

They should be banned. And if they share the same IP addy as another more ermm permanent member on here and they've pushed the vote up like this either way, ban them. This is ridiculous. They are spamming different forums in this place with the same threads and each reply to the same threads in a similar manner.

On a side note...


Invert, they all share IPs with some other posters, though. This is why James raised that question. But I know, and anyone can tell, that they're all the same person. It's so obvious... Ban. Permanently ban. They're spamming the board with their propaganda (In every thread, even starting stupid threads), inciting flames, interfering with polls, etc. Multiple accounts are not allowed either.
Ermm there's one other person on here with whom I sometimes share the same IP addy and that's because he's my partner and he rarely posts in here and I don't think he's ever posted in a poll. He rarely if ever posts in here and he only joined because he saw I liked posting in here... call it learning about the others interest crapola if you will...lol.. We might sometimes share the same IP addy as I sometimes post from home (hence why my IP addy might be the same as his) and from elsewhere in my spare time. That's not a problem is it? :confused: If the mods have a problem, I can send them a private message to tell them who this poster is so that they can check that he has not even posted in the ban threads I've participated in.

bells, i think it'll be decided on a case by case basis, or maybe IP's will only be checked if the Mods think that one of you two called the other in to vote, and if hes been on as long as you, then you've got nothing to worry about

How interesting that the poll just went from 10-1 to 11-6.

No he joined about a year or so ago I think. I'm not sure. I've been here a lot longer than that. If it's a problem then I.. well.. I don't know. :confused: He doesn't post in the ban vote threads, at least I don't think he's ever participated in them. If he has and it's on the same side as what I happen to have voted on, just discount our votes if it's a problem I guess. Other wise I'll just tell him not to use his passport or delete his and he can always just use mine to post if and when he ever does post, if it causes a problem :eek:...

maybe we should have had an open poll

You are right CC, considering that some 5 "identities" just went online. :eek:

They have all just logged in, and Surprise!! the No vote count went up by 5. All of them are 'viewing sciforums index' and not posting. I find it utterly pathetic that someone is that desperate and stupid.

Bells:
My husband also posts here, albeit from another computer. He also never posts or participates in discussions that I am involved in. Our addresses would be similar, but not the same but I think that the mods would understand given your situation. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless your partner gets out of hand. (In which case I'd consider chopping off a finger or two while they slept as a warning.)

Welcome, Sally and Tally. These two members just joined, and are now viewing this thread.

And the vote count continues to go up. I think an IP ban is in order.

Apparently you do however, since you took the time to do the math to point it out. Still working on those "more than two line" posts issue?


I noticed that you have no serious post ever. Why blame me for 2 liners?

bells, dont worry, hes been on a year, your fine

arditezza, remind me never to marry you

Well alain, I was kidding. But since I do plan on staying with my husband for the remainder of my natural life then I don't see that as a possibility.

I have several very serious posts, spurious. You took the time to figure out that 42% of my posts were in this forum, you should be able to click a single button and see the other posts I have made that were serious. I consider the majority of my posts in the Ban threads equally serious, as anger against people should be tempered with level-headedness which is the point I am always trying to get across. I have played around on the pirate vs. ninja thread, but everyone needs to let loose occasionally.

LOL... the NO vote just keeps going up and new members are joining by the minute. This is ridiculous. I agree, I think a ban is needed. Either that or we can sit back and watch them dig themselves a bigger hole.

Arditezza, heh you know my predicament then. My partner, on the rare occasions he posts on here, rarely ever posts in any threads that I may be participating in. Whenever he has participated in a thread I am also taking part in, he will usually make a joke out of it and then leave the thread for good. And if he doesn't leave the thread, I do. And if he ever participates in a ban thread, I wont and if I do by accident, just discard my vote.

yeah, i voted for no before i actually knew enough, cant change now tho

and arditezza, i'd guessed that you were joking

maybe we should have had an open poll

Sorry about that, but the guidelines suggested a closed poll.

Say, is the newest user "Mecca" also one of that bunch?

I am not sure, since he seems to be anti-christian.
When I look at this (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=596215#post596215) he reminds me of certain persons.

guidelines shmidelines

it doesnt really work, if your trying to stop idiots voting, if you allow the idiots to vote, they arent going to stop themselves voting

dreamwalker, i stopped reading the linked post after the first line, did i miss much?
and yes, id say he is one of the bunch, whoever is behind this is an absolute moron, does he really think we'd be fooled by this?

Dreamwalker, I've moved both threads to cesspool. Well, the Bloody Christian thread is in religion by accident. Yes, the one in cesspool makes mention of me!
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=36940

Apparently you went through my 5900+ posts and counted every 'i agree' and 'one-liner' post, but you think it is obsessive if I spend 3 minutes going through your 90+ posts to notice you spend most of your time bitching about people. Well, my theory is that you didn't really go through all of my posts, but just wanted to bitch about something.

You bring nothing but negativity. That is my personal assessment of your performance at sciforums so far.



I never went through your posts, I did go on what I've seen from you thus far. I didn't look for something to bitch about, I was just pointing out the rampant "lynch mob" mentality that goes on in these forums with extreme regularity. Of which you participate in on a regular basis. I have read your longer posts that you pointed out, and I find them to be intelligent and well thought out, which is why your need to conform disappoints me so. You have the ability to think outside the box, but don't here in the fear of those who lynch others lynching you. Of course that is just my opinion, and like yours it probably stinks and is way off base. See how that works?

I am not bringing negativity, I am bringing conflicting ideas that a lot of people don't like. I am trying to get people to see that occasionally looking for the big picture instead of rushing to judgement based on other peoples ideas is a bad thing. If you see that as negative, then that's really too bad. Have I been negative towards you in particular? Yes, I have indeed. I apologize if what I have said offends you, and that is sincere. I was attempting to make you feel how you have made others feel with your random one-line insults. I picked you over others because you did it a lot in the Ban PM thread. You were singled out randomly, and I have attacked no other posters (see my tiny little 90+ posts to verify that). So I do apologize.

don't apologize for something you believe in.

don't apologize for something you believe in.

I'm not, I was apologizing to you specifically for calling you, and only you, out when I was trying to make a point. I still think the mob mentality here is deplorable, and will still fight to get others to see a bigger picture and think outside the box when it comes to other people. It is my hope that people will not always be judged on a few factors, but on their person as a whole. I don't believe that people can be non-judgmental despite great efforts trying, but I do believe that when people know the whole of a person they can better understand them.

So, can we get the names of who else share this IP addy? Is it just whirlwind/PM?

So, can we get the names of who else share this IP addy? Is it just whirlwind/PM?

Proud Non-Muslim is coming through on an AOL proxy. He shares an IP with the following users: Colmar, Paulina, and a few other members that are not involved with this situation.

Mecca is also on a proxy and shares no IPs with anyone. Which leaves me to believe that this person is using a proxy. I could be wrong.

Sally and Tally, who joined up today, do not have their IPs in the datebase yet. There are other accounts, I'm sure. If you wish to bring them to light, it'd be nice.

What about Fabiana? They're also posting the same things and in the same posts as the other ones. I can't even begin to think who else or as in which other more permanent member they may be connected to though. I guess this forum might be too large and have too many members to find that out. But if you put an IP ban on the ones identified already, that surely should rectify the situation wouldn't it?

I don't know... raising the voting age would seem like a much more efficient way of getting rid of them.

I'm with Persol. One month or 100 posts.

*cough*
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=36871
*cough*

So far the list I've seen is;

Colmar
Fabiana
Kiwi123
Paulina
Proud Non-Muslim
Uki
Mecca
Sally
Tally

*cough*
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=36871
*cough*

Indeed.

And Sally and Tally? What the fuck? How lazy in your stupidity can you get?

Possibly another member to add to the list. the preacher. He jumped into the religion forum, posted 11 times each of which was some stupid one-liner alluding that he is god or the devil or both. I would just think he was a retard, if not for the 11 post count. All of which "contributed" to threads rather than starting spammy ones. I'm guessing his next stop was here. So you might want to check him out too.


Edit: If these are connected to a member who existed previously, then I'd be all for banning him or them. This is getting ridiculous.

I agree, The Preacher looks somewhat strange, heŽs either a bad joke or a bad joke created to vote somewhere. Anyway, this is getting very annoying. :bugeye:

These people's posting style are so vastly similar to PM's, that I'm starting to think they are PM himself, trying to catch us in our own hypocrisy when we don't try to ban them.

I don't think their posting styles are so similar really. They're more a parody. It's obvious that they're at the least reacting to PM. Too bad they won't leave now that the poll is closed. I suppose they're sticking around to get credibility for the next poll.

Which brings up a good point. Should there be some type of rule against starting ban thread after ban thread about somebody? Should I make a thread proposing it?



Edit: Although, if you are right, and it is PM, wouldn't it be funny if he get's banned for spamming the board with his satire rather than his real views. I don't see why they would have voted to ban him though, unless that's all part of his master plan. :p :rolleyes: :D

Voted No! We've all got assholes, so let's face it, they're to the Left and to the Right. Except for me.

These people's posting style are so vastly similar to PM's, that I'm starting to think they are PM himself, trying to catch us in our own hypocrisy when we don't try to ban them.
Heh.. well if that is the case then it all went sour as we are trying to ban them:D... so along come the new members who suddenly start to vote no to try to save their/his/her own skin. Whoever is creating all these new members has been a member here for a long while.


Voted No! We've all got assholes, so let's face it, they're to the Left and to the Right. Except for me.
Ermm so does that mean you're in the center then? :p .. j/k.. lol.. couldn't resist asking. :D

why isn't P_M banished? He lost his banning poll. Then again Proud Non-Muslim, Kiwi123, Colmar, Fabiana, and Paulina were not banished either.

As far as I know, PM is not banished because some votes in the poll were from new "members" who were created by already existing members.

Oh well hope they got banished, its against the rules to do that.

Mmh, donŽt know. I think some are still around. There is a list, somewhere at the end of the "ban PM" thread. Some of the names there are still active. :rolleyes:

Fascism = Oppression, right?
Democracy = Freedom, right?

But in a democratic society 49% or less are always oppressed. The ones who are against oppression (communists for instance) are to stupid to realize this. But back to my point.
I have recently started liking democracy again because it is a certain natural selection to it.
PM and some other (i do not know which, but you know) where washed away because of that natural selection. The only sane thing to do is to ban the, otherwise democracy looses all its fascist features and i would hate for that to happen :)

ban, ban, ban

>> Fascism = Oppression, right?
Democracy = Freedom, right?

WRONG

Fascism = honesty .... REALITY

Democracy = propaganda, deceit.... ILLUSION

Even Plato thought democracy can not work.... can not even build a bridge to get over it....

you figure

The greek invented Democracy and Homosexuallity. :)

yes democracy is not all that great but is definitely better then dictatorship rule, monarchies or worst of all religious regime rule.

depends. Communist Dictatorship which i see as Survival of the Weakest is wrong. Same goes for religious societies.
But a Fascist regime as the Nazis but instead of Survival of the Aryan master race it should be survival of the fittest.
A Elite Society with a Dictator which uses Natural Selection to determine the value of everyone. That is what i want. (note: Nothing against any race, religion or culture! Not nazism or Racism, Just Fascism)

baal, that sounds more like anarchy then fascism

ideally, you would want to combine your survival of the fittest society with some place like Japan, survival of the society

I just want to kill off all humans once a successor form is developed. Long live the cybernetic overlords! :D

A Elite Society with a Dictator which uses Natural Selection to determine the value of everyone.

Then it wouldn't be natural selection.

The "master" race would be those who propel the society forward (the inventors).
They are the important. The Dictator would merely rule the society, he would not be of any greater importance.

WellCookedFetus, ;)

It would be Natural Selection.

If you are the best at Whatever it is you do then you have a higher value and therefore you will be raised to the heavens by the society.

the invetors will become the cyborgs.

I say that i have real AI. But hey, it does not matter what others believe. It is still maybe 20 years away before the first human can be merged into a machine.

The inventors would not become the inventors till they are old or sick until i knowhow the intelligence level is changed.

It would be Natural Selection.

If you are the best at Whatever it is you do then you have a higher value and therefore you will be raised to the heavens by the society.

You have no clue on what natural selection entails apparently.

The Dictator would merely rule the society, he would not be of any greater importance.

WellCookedFetus, ;)

That's an astoundingly naive and/or stupid statement. Look at the Bolsheviks ... they had their master race of the proletariat. Didn't stop Stalin from creating a brutal cult dedicated to the worship and glorification of Stalin. Look at the Nazis ... the master race were Aryans, tall, blond-haired, and blue-eyed ... Hitler was short and dark. Didn't stop him from creating a brutal cult dedicated to the worship and glorification of Hitler.

StarofEigth, guess you are american. :p

Aryan is a measurement of your facial structure. It has nothing to do with blue eyes and blond hair.
However it was statisicly proved that those who were blond and had blue eyes were more usually Aryans than the others.

Okay, fair enough ... throw out the second half of what I said. Still leaves Stalin.

StarofEigth, guess you are american. :p

Aryan is a measurement of your facial structure. It has nothing to do with blue eyes and blond hair.
However it was statisicly proved that those who were blond and had blue eyes were more usually Aryans than the others.

A perfectly random character picked to select for perfection.

Look at the Bolsheviks ... they had their master race of the proletariat. Didn't stop Stalin from creating a brutal cult dedicated to the worship and glorification of Stalin.

I know too little about this subject in order to give any valid reply.

There are like 5 immigrants of 3000 in my town. Normally everyone is anti-communist, anti-semmetic (is that the right word?) so we choose to think the communist as untermenschen and therefore we did not study them as much.
I have always and will always consider the communists as untermenschen. They are re-doing what Robin Hood did but they have messed it up. Instead of taking from the rich and giving to the poor, they take from the rich, the middle class, the poor and give it to themselves or lose it in endless adminastrive systems.

So, please enlighten me. Or write some anti, anti-communist slur :p

They are re-doing what Robin Hood did but they have messed it up. Instead of taking from the rich and giving to the poor, they take from the rich, the middle class, the poor and give it to themselves or lose it in endless adminastrive systems.



Sounds like the British tax system... :D

I know too little about this subject in order to give any valid reply.

There are like 5 immigrants of 3000 in my town. Normally everyone is anti-communist, anti-semmetic (is that the right word?) so we choose to think the communist as untermenschen and therefore we did not study them as much.
I have always and will always consider the communists as untermenschen. They are re-doing what Robin Hood did but they have messed it up. Instead of taking from the rich and giving to the poor, they take from the rich, the middle class, the poor and give it to themselves or lose it in endless adminastrive systems.

So, please enlighten me. Or write some anti, anti-communist slur :p

According to Marx, the communist revolution would usher in a classless society ... yet, under Stalin, the communist revolution created a brutal, rigid hierarchy that basically replaced the old Russian hereditary nobility with new titles. Point being, you said the dictator would "merely rule the society" and my point is that dictators will inevitably do to utopian ideals what Michael Jackson (allegedly) does to little children.

Yes, but i also said that it would be a elite-society, ruled by the inventors (those who propel the society forward). The communist are the opposite to elite. (you dont have to agree)

I say, in order for democracy to function a fascist regime as i suggest have to exist first to seperate the the worthy from the unworthy.
A quick way to achieve this (a lil shortcut) is to give everyone who has a greater importance in the society more votes in the democratic system. (not like old times were the rich had more votes. I say that the inventors are the most important.)

Yes, but i also said that it would be a elite-society, ruled by the inventors (those who propel the society forward). The communist are the opposite to elite. (you dont have to agree)

I say, in order for democracy to function a fascist regime as i suggest have to exist first to seperate the the worthy from the unworthy.
A quick way to achieve this (a lil shortcut) is to give everyone who has a greater importance in the society more votes in the democratic system. (not like old times were the rich had more votes. I say that the inventors are the most important.)

LOL! Like Yeah

So you intend to give more votes to people like the man who invented the plastic fish that sang "Take Me To The River".

:D

haha,

no, of course not. (btw i wrote "of course the importance of the invention is a integer in the calculation in how worthy you where" But actually, i thought you were clever enough to read that between the lines :p )

LOL ..... yeah, and I thought you were clever enough to come out with something intelligent.

Never mind eh?

Only joking..... ;)

"A quick way to achieve this (a lil shortcut) is to give everyone who has a greater importance in the society more votes in the democratic system. (not like old times were the rich had more votes. I say that the inventors are the most important.) "

Ye whit????
How do you decide importance? And how many worldly inventors have you known?
You seem to be overlooking the more organic nacture of society, adn making the same mistake everyone from PLato through to Lenin has made.

Yes, but i also said that it would be a elite-society, ruled by the inventors (those who propel the society forward). The communist are the opposite to elite. (you dont have to agree)

I say, in order for democracy to function a fascist regime as i suggest have to exist first to seperate the the worthy from the unworthy.
A quick way to achieve this (a lil shortcut) is to give everyone who has a greater importance in the society more votes in the democratic system. (not like old times were the rich had more votes. I say that the inventors are the most important.)

In theory, yeah, the communists are opposed to the elite. Therein lies my point. How do you think's going to have power? Stephen Hawking or Josef Stalin?

In theory, yeah, the communists are opposed to the elite. Therein lies my point. How do you think's going to have power? Stephen Hawking or Josef Stalin?

Catholic priests.

who the fuck are the cybernetic over lords ! sounds abit like star wars !

why would you want to kill off your own kind and be ruled by machine? are you a lony or on hard drugs

Catholic priests.

With a handful of notable exceptions (Maximillian Kolbe, for one), Catholic and Lutherans both supported the Nazis. The Orthodox clergy was mostly exterminated by the Bolsheviks, although Stalin did briefly re-open the churches during the Battle of Stalingrad.

although Stalin did briefly re-open the churches during the Battle of Stalingrad.

I wonder why? :p

Michael Jackson would make a good ruler. Love and peace for everyone. And please, no cruel jokes about little boys in your response!

who rules a democracy?

The people? No.
George Bush? No.

The power is lost. No one rules a democracy.
Why not? Because everyone thinks differently.

So, why not make everyone think alike?
I am not talking about transhumanism were the parasites are brought to the divine state of a inventor. I am talking about assisting the natural selection.

Ruling the vast empire will not be difficult with a robotic army at your disposal.


Creating a religion is one way of achiving the main objective but i am personally against it to be frank.


Why i want to kill of my kind? Well, my kind are all dead. The kind that still lives are inferior. Replacing them with my AI which i can prove is smarter than 30% of the human race is no real problem for me. (these 30% are considered parasites)
Then about 40% are equal to my AI. (these 40% are the working class. They are neccesary but they can probably be replaced with machines)
The other 30% are the truely blessed, those who can "think outside the box". These are not the professors who only have read books their whole lives. These are the ones who can give "practial application" a meaning.

When were the last time you heard of a truely intelligent "man". Plato, Sokrates, Nietzsche, Goethe, Einstein, Da Vinci. They are all from the past. Is there a Einstein alive today? I ask you cause i cannot think of anyone.
Of course i see myself as one of their kind because of my AI. But if i was to be wrong (which i doubt) then i would not be worth much either.


I have plans for a new forum. But please, i want to hear your laughter and critisism first. :D

So you are going into the open now? Make it public? Tell me when your new forum is completed. Perhaps IŽll join in yet...

actually you are already on my list on contact:ies...

but, i am not sure if you will fit in Dreamwalker cause it will not be pro mass death. It will be pro a Elite society. But i will be most happy to tell you my hidden agenda :p

IŽll look into it anyways. ;)

Baal, what's your point? When Socrates was alive, Athenians considered him an obnoxious, self-righteous prick.

my point of what ?
I make a lot of points, you will have to be more specific.

Ok. laughter first.
Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha.
*pause for breath*
hahahahhahahahhhhhhaaaaaahhahhahaha.

I have heard that the worse you write (with hand) the smarter you are.
guthrie, i reckon you have the most elegant handwriting skills in the world.

Waaaaaaaay off topic and winding down... thread closed.