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kmguru
10-12-02, 11:11 PM
NASA discovers bridge of Ramayana period
18.32 IST 09th Oct 2002

By IndiaExpress Bureau

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) space shuttle has imaged a mysterious ancient bridge between India and Sri Lanka, as mentioned in the Ramayana.

The evidence, according to experts is in the Digital Image Collection.

The bridge, which was discovered only recently, was named as Adam’s Bridge. It is made of a chain of shoals, 30 km long, in the Palk Straits between India and Sri Lanka.

The bridge reveals the mystery behind it. The bridge's unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man-made.

Legend as well as Archeological studies have it that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to the primitive age, about 1,750,000 years ago. And the bridge is almost equivalent.

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/briudge.jpg

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10-13-02, 09:09 AM
:eek: AMAZING! :eek:

:) :cool:

wet1
10-13-02, 11:29 AM
This reminds me of something. When I was in high school I lived not far from the coast. There was a private island just off the beach. There were house trailers there and that was about it. There was no bridge, no paved road, no electricity. The beach facing the island was public. Now all the locals knew that at low tide, you could drive to the island, on hard sand, even if you couldn't see the shoal. During high tide you best have a boat cause you weren't going to see that vehicle again till low tide if you drove it out in the water. I always wondered by anyone in their right mind would want live on a barrier island.

While no where near that far away from the main land, I guess it goes to show history repeats itself in many variations.

Clockwood
10-16-02, 06:45 PM
Natural or man made?

If man made that would be one heck of a monument to slave labor.

postoak
10-16-02, 07:45 PM
I'm pretty skeptical this could be man-made. Think about it. A bridge would probably be less than 100 feet wide and I don't think it would even show at that altitude. This is more likely to be an underwater ridge.

kmguru
10-16-02, 10:16 PM
The bridge's unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man-made.

postoak
10-17-02, 07:01 AM
Why does the bridge's "unique curvature and composition by age" reveal it to be man-made. I would think just the opposite. If man built the bridge, he would take the shortest route -- a straight line. I don't even know what "composition by age" is supposed to mean -- it sounds like mumbo-jumbo. Since "man" is only 70,000 or so years old, a bridge 1.7 million years old isn't likely to be man-made.

kmguru
10-17-02, 08:53 AM
If I am a structural engineer set to design such a bridge, I would design a curved bridge to distribute the lateral forces more efficiently. It is like designing an arch or a square. Basic engineering 101.

As to man being only 70,000 years old - that is what we know today, because we have not found any bones. In India that is hard to do, since people cremate the bodies and distribute the ashes...Does anyone know, how a nuclear blast affect carbon dating?...Has anyone seriously looked at the composition of materials and ground layers in India?...The work has just started...give them some time.

Unlike US, no one stops digging if they find any old stuff below ground in that part of the world. May be the future digs unearth interesting stuff....

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10-17-02, 01:51 PM
amen, father :)

kmguru
10-19-02, 12:13 AM
While the picture is not a fake, someone mixed up the information about the years...so back to the drawing board to find out if the imagination fits the real data....

Too...bad...science to junk science in a matter of hours....:mad:

Edufer
10-20-02, 11:31 PM
Kmguru, the Ramayama and other hinduistic scripts and legends go back about 8,000 years ago. As the Maharabata speaks pf flying machines, atomic wars, radiation, cities in orbit, etc, we can asume that those people (not necessarily the common hindus) had a technology that could have built the bridge. I wonder why didn't they built it across the much shorter span seen at the south of the island, though. Perhaps the shorelines have changed a lot since then...

But man is not just 70,000 years old. I don't want to get into an argument with no one, but the famous Stones of Ica, found in the Ocucaje desert in Perú, suggest there existed a civilization about 70 million years ago, living along with the dinosaurs. The evidence is strong enough to support this theory. Perhaps in some days from now I could give you more details on this.

Imagine just this: the famous Paracas mantle, found in Perú, is one of the oldest archaeological findings ever made in America (not the US, of course) and it describes the genetic disorder known as "syndactilia", an hereditary trait that prevents the growing of the thumb in both hands. How do you (or anyone) explain this? ;) :D

I have personally seen a "pressure pot" made of ceramics, with a relief valve on top (and two handles that were secured together for making it resistant to the inside pressure) that belongs to the Chimú civilization in Perú. As they lived more than 3,000 years ago, high in the Andes, that seems to be an excellent way to have their soup ready in a jiffy...

I will be back in the board soon. I have been too busy (away from home) to get in touch with you people. Have a nice time.

Edufer signing off...

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10-21-02, 11:42 AM
interesting about the dinosaurs, Edufer.
I have read about dinosaurs and a heart transplantation inscribed on stones in Andes

glad to see you back:)

Edufer
10-21-02, 07:03 PM
This is interesting. Check it and tell me your opinion.

http://community-2.webtv.net/WF11/3BillionYearOld/

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10-21-02, 07:16 PM
3 billion years suggest of aliens, because I doubt of any more advanced life than a fish then

or we ourselves are aliens from Mars
refugees of our previous dying word
my theory is that it was a metiorite strike

Maybe those spheres were left by first explorers
duno , but extremely interesting- definetely made by some intelligent life

ahhhh- so magical and misterious is the world we live in
I love thee

edit- southafrica suggests tht maybe aliens were repleneshing their uranium stocks for ships engines

edit2 - or quicksilver- remember reading in one book that they might have used quicksilver- was said so in one of Vedas

maybe they were left from some kind of equipment

grazzhoppa
10-21-02, 07:23 PM
Looks something like the death star.

Maybe humans (or something as intelligent) came before dinosaurs, got extinct, then the species comes back from a male and female frozen in ice for millions of years. It would explain Adam and Eve and also why humans are such idiots (inbreeding).

Or maybe the intern that was operating the isotope-dating machine added a few zeros to the real date.

kmguru
10-21-02, 08:03 PM
Some one needs to dig out this information:

I saw in discovery channel that our sun was colder and getting hotter over billion of years and as such the tempearate zone moved from Venus to Earth and will move to Mars in a few hundred million years.

Can somebody verify this. If this is so, then we would be Venusians with almost same gravity....

If it is the opposite - we will be Martians....moved here....


The other part is, both Mahabharat and Ramayan describe different planets, space ships, guided missiles and other super advanced weaponery while the west was dreaming about earth as the center of the universe. As I said before, either someone was better than Authur Clarke or there is some truth to it. Even Clarke's 3010 is based on recent science. So, what kind of science was then to write science fictions?

kmguru
10-21-02, 08:14 PM
The 3 Billion year old Spheroid looks like some type of memory device or a space camera that moves indepenedently after a full charge. I wonder why no one in the media talks about it or that NASA doing some research into it?

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10-21-02, 08:19 PM
the reason is as always

those spheres don't exist because they don't fit in the "all is secure and known" picture

spookz
10-21-02, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Clockwood
Natural or man made?

If man made that would be one heck of a monument to slave labor.

you mean slave monkey labor
or is it monkey slave labor?

;)

Jaxom
10-21-02, 09:24 PM
Does anyone know, how a nuclear blast affect carbon dating?...Has anyone seriously looked at the composition of materials and ground layers in India?

This triggered an old memory. I remember reading a book, I think from the 70's, that had in its title something about the Bermuda Triangle. Anyway, the last chapter dealt with other evidence around the world of ancient, forgotten civilizations.

One paragraph mentioned either India or that part of the world, and had stated that in drilling core samples (for oil I think) a team of explorers had run across a layer of rock that was like glass, dating back thousands of years (I don't remember the number). The last comment was that the only other place on earth they had ever seen such a material was in atomic testing fields, suggesting of course that maybe this is evidence of some nuclear blast.

Now, I took all that stuff with a grain of salt, of course, especially when my limited search for info (before the Internet) turned up nothing. But India does have a lot of potential ancient history it seems. Research and evidence will tell.

spookz
10-21-02, 10:39 PM
Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day. Get it?” --Sarah Connor, Terminator 2

...a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour...
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds...
...the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols...

..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognisable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment

verses from the Mahabharata

"Interestingly, Manhattan Project chief scientist Dr J. Robert Oppenheimer was known to be familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature. In an interview conducted after he watched the first atomic test, he quoted from the Bhagavad Gita: "'Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.' I suppose we all felt that way." When asked in an interview at Rochester University seven years after the Alamogordo nuclear test whether that was the first atomic bomb ever to be detonated, his reply was, "Well, yes, in modern history."

"Ancient cities whose brick and stonewalls have literally been vitrified, that is, fused together, can be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast.

Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity. No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. "

;)

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10-21-02, 10:49 PM
yes- I knew about this
amazing, isn't it?
:)

spookz
10-21-02, 11:33 PM
Probably the most famous of all ancient "nuke 'em" stories is the well-known biblical tale of Sodom and Gomorrah:

And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievousÉ Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah, brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his [Lot's] wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of saltÉ And lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace. (Genesis 18:20; 19:24-26,28)

This biblical passage has come to epitomise the destructive power of God's wrath visited on those places which sin. The Bible is very specific about the site of Sodom and Gomorrah plus several other towns; they were in the Vale of Siddim, which was located at the southern end of the Salt Sea (now called the Dead Sea). Other towns in the area, according to the Bible, were Zoar, Admah and Zeboiim (Genesis 14:2). As late as the Middle Ages, a town called Zoar existed in the area.

The Dead Sea is 1,293 feet [394 metres] below sea level and at least 1,200 feet [365 m] deep. The bottom of the sea is therefore about 2,500 feet [762 m] below the level of the Mediterranean. Approximately 25 per cent of the water of the Dead Sea consists of solid ingredients, mostly sodium chloride. Normal ocean water is around 4.6 per cent salt. The Jordan and many smaller rivers empty themselves into this basin, which has no solitary outlet. What its tributaries bring to it in the way of chemical substances remain deposited in the Dead Sea's 500 square miles. Evaporation under the broiling sun takes place on the surface of the sea at a rate of over 230 million cubic feet per day. Arab tradition has it that so many poisonous gases come out of the lake that birds could not fly across it, as they would die before reaching the other side.


Vitrified Ruins in California's Death Valley

The most numerous vitrified remains in the New World are located in the western United States. In 1850 the American explorer Captain Ives William Walker was the first to view some of these ruins, situated in Death Valley. He discovered a city about a mile long, with the lines of the streets and the positions of the buildings still visible. At the center he found a huge rock, between 20 to 30 feet high, with the remains of an enormous structure atop it. The southern side of both the rock and the building was melted and vitrified. Walker assumed that a volcano had been responsible for this phenomenon, but there is no volcano in the area. In addition, tectonic heat could not have caused such a liquefication of the rock surface.


Vitrified Ruins in France, Turkey and the Middle East

Vitrified forts in France are discussed in the American Journal of Science (vol. 3, no. 22, 1881, pp. 150-151) in an article entitled "On the Substances Obtained from Some 'Forts Vitrifiés' in France", by M. Daubrée. The author mentions several forts in Brittany and northern France whose granite blocks have been vitrified. He cites the "partially fused granitic rocks from the forts of Château-vieux and of Puy de Gaudy (Creuse), also from the neighbourhood of Saint Brieuc (Côtes-du-Nord)".10 Daubrée, understandably, could not readily find an explanation for the vitrification.

Similarly, the ruins of Hattusas in central Turkey, an ancient Hittite city, are partially vitrified. TheHittites are said to be the inventors of the chariot, and horses were of great importance to them. It is on the ancient Hittite stelae that we first see a depiction of the chariot in use. However, it seems unlikely that horsemanship and wheeled chariots were invented by the Hittites; it is highly likely that chariots were in use in ancient China at the same time.

more (http://www.nexusmagazine.com/ancatomicwar1.html)

kmguru
10-22-02, 12:30 AM
History always repeats in a type 13 planet....

A global nuclear holocaust...

This is what our fate will be...

That is why, I would like to see a lot of time capsules spread out all over the planet that can survive nuclear radiation and atleast 100,000 years.

I wonder how many times we have gone through this over 3 billion years?

UltiTruth
10-22-02, 11:20 AM
The Ramayana talks of some monkey like humans, with tails and lots of body hair, having constructed the bridge to Lanka. Maybe this indicates that the people who did this were more than regular humans, who had probably some additional faculties than we do. And the stones used for the bridge were said to have floated on water! Could this be the work of some differently enabled humans of the time? (And may be even the Pyramids)
The leader of the monkey race, a revered God for Hindus (Hanuman) was said to be capable of flying across the sea, while the others in his kin could plunge varying distances. Hanuman as a child was actually said to have flown towards the Sun, mistaking it to be an edible fruit. :eek:
Was just wondering if the various differently empowered races finally diminished leaving just the humans, as we are today. Or are we just one isolated and lost bit from the whole?
The epics also talk about 14 different worlds (Lokas) with each inhabited by a different race, some of them being Manava (Human), Gandharva, Yaksha, Kinnera, Kimpurusha and so on. Interestingly, some of them had some special powers. All of them of course, looking at the much more powerful Trinity, who were omnipresent. There are innumerable mentions of space ships and the ability to change body form (kama roopa), disappearing (much like in Star Trek!) and so on.
So, I think the alien theories and the existence of much more evolved civilizations possibilities to be explored. Was it a group of various civilizations that had contacts across?
Greets.

kmguru
10-22-02, 12:45 PM
First of all, anything after the vedas is after the fact. That is all Indian mythology and history (puranas) are based on information passed down for generations in vocal form (from Sruti). Assuming there was a mega civilization before vedas - some catastrophe, man made or natural created an environment that lost the first hand knowledge. On the other hand there may be some document that was uncovered later on that explains how a battery was made etc.

Either way, the very fact that information was passed on from mouth to ear several generations means, the information has been corrupted and need cleansing. What is true and what is the over active imagination of people that never saw the past - we do not know.

So, it is difficult to get a clear picture. However there may be somethings we could guess based on extrapolation from present day scenarios. For example: imagine there is a pacific island where people have never seen the gizmos and gadgets of the 20th century. If you bring one person out of it to spend a few years in a modern western city and send him back - he will have a hard time explaining what he saw. Even worse, some one in the island that trascribed his explanation will have a different take.

While everything would be the truth - it would be the way the traslator saw or heard. We need to think in that terms and try to get a better idea rather than taking the words literally.

May be a natural evolution of monkeys are not humans but monkey people with tails. Floating rocks could be super large size styrofoam. Flying in the air could be via jet packs or anti-gravity belts. Different races of people could be just that.

If there was trade and commerce between the planets, there is no way all the planets could be destroyed. All it takes is one space ship to travel and reunite the planets. And if these people did travel, they must have some artifacts left on the moon, mars or in deep space as a warning beacon or satellite relay station. Any satellite left on earth would have been fallen into the sea by now, but deep space stations should be there. We have not found any artifacts in space yet!

We need to keep digging until we find something.....

spookz
10-22-02, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by kmguru
On the other hand there may be some document that was uncovered later on that explains how a battery was made etc.



see here (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=179033#post179033)

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10-22-02, 01:33 PM
actually there is some links that Egyptians had a battery, also Jews (the Ark) , also a tribe that I forgot the name for - they were desert warriors- they used wine as a catalist. Works today.
They filled jars full of wine and placed metal plates in it and connected them in circle (thus achieving bigger power). Then they linked them to a jar of water and put in there metal objects which then through galvanisation(sp) covered in silver

The Rock
09-29-05, 05:07 AM
Well.... I think this possibly cant be man-made. Jus Think, a man made bridge over 70,000 year ago. What was it made of that survived so long. :confused: ...... or maybe the aliens on earth theory was true.. :eek: .. researching on this i found out at some places that the composition of this was cocunut wood, leaves, and all other raw material.. Which none of convinced me that would stand even more than 200 yrs. Hmmm.. and even if it survived half a wave or simple breeze could b enough to destroy it i suppose.. Hmm... nice topic to use ur brains on dont u think.. :bugeye:

SkinWalker
10-02-05, 10:40 PM
It's a Tombolo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tombolo). Nothing more.

kmguru
10-03-05, 01:27 AM
I suppose the Sri Lanka Tombolo was not notable since it was not listed....or perhaps it is not...Ramayana talks about rocks being deposited by thousands of monkey looking people to create the bridge so that soldiers can pass to fight. Perhaps, there was a natural formation that was 300 feet under water that got covered up with rocks....

As to aliens, Ramayana talks about Vimanas....until we find the engine somewhere in Sri Lanka...that would remain a myth...start digging....:D

laughing_coyote
01-22-06, 12:01 AM
Since they didn't spend all their time sitting at the TV or their computer keyboards, ancient peoples were very observant of the environment around them. They saw things, such as Mount Olympus in Greece, El Capitan in the U.S., etc. etc. and incorporated them into stories of supernatural beings and mythical or mythologized ancestors. (Scientific documentation is in the same tradition even if it uses a different approach of systemized observation and testing.) During the ice age when the ocean was several hundred meters lower, early people must have observed this bridge and constructed stories around it, as they have done with nearly every other significant land form. These stories were probably eventually elaborated or synthesized with other stories into the Ramayana. Today, when we are left with the story but not with the bridge, sudden evidence from outer space is taken as confirmation of the story, when it is really the other way around. Regarding nuclear war: there were vulcanos, meteor hits, forest fires, and so forth. Similarly the great flood stories also had ice-age origins in glacial lake outflows and the in-flow of the ocean into land basins such as the Mediterrean, Black and Caspian seas. Even the fall of Adam and Eve was likely an allegory for hunter and gatherer cultures being overrun by an agricultural ones, which was and continues to be a truly catastrophic event for such cultures all over the world.

laughing_coyote
01-22-06, 11:04 AM
I might add that anything is possible in this universe -- for all we know monkey beings swarmed through a worm hole from another galaxy and constructed this land bridge. However, until science has evidence otherwise, it goes to the simplist explanation for which we have evidence. Rather than resorting to exceptionalism, it looks for parallels elsewhere in other societies and other natural processes.

We see tombolos and understand their formation elsewhere (even the supposedly well-engineered shape is a product of certain configuration of waves; also the continents aren't immobile and over 2 million years Sri Lanka moved significantly in relation to the Indian subcontinent, so why isn't this bridge correspondingly damaged?). And we see how people construct stories around landforms and events everywhere, but monkeys doing this only occurred in one place and one culture. Though a wonderful story full of powerful imagery significant to the culture and people who constructed it, the story has no validity as a scientific explanation. It seems to me that if we have monkeys here we should have them everywhere -- but it is coyote, crow, bear and corn beings in North America; jaguar in Central America; spider in equitorial Africa, polar bear and raindeer beings in arctic cultures, and so forth.

matthyaouw
01-25-06, 08:52 AM
If anyone has Google Earth, I recomend you take a look down there. The resolution is much higher than the photo in the original post. I see lots of barrier beaches/islands and a coral reef. Nothing there suggests a human origin to me.

sivabd
03-07-07, 04:43 AM
Dear All, All your thoughts are very nice. Some written about scriptural evidences and some about imaginative speculations. Fine..... Looks all our life will end sooner in a span of 100 years. We are trying to exploer what is the evolution process and how old is human existance. It is certainly illogical to judge on the basis of speculation, because our senses are absolutely very limited. Just for instance, our eyes cannot see anything without help of light. In the darkness we have so much of limitations. We cannot perceive color beyond vibgyor range. Our ear can listen to only limited decibals. A Dog can better hear sound than humans. So, I vote here for hearing from ancient scriptures. I agree there could be some corruption in the modern days. But see here... just 200-300 years ago ..... I have seen in museums those gigantic ARMOURS they wear during war fare.... one of our Mr.man (not mentioning his name) of our city came to lift and could not. But those real armours were used and they used to run and fight..... You will go mad with dis-spell if you see such existing proof of strength that exisited just in 2 centuries ago.... Even they are twice taller then today's average man height...... So lets be precautious before pronouncing speculation also... I dont mean to hurt anyone here... but wanted to mention the absolute reality of supreme forces that exisited in the past. So man-made bridge those days wouldnt have been a great deal at all. Thanks folks.

kmguru
03-08-07, 10:02 PM
And someone will say that American Indians did not come from Asia through Alaska because there is no proof that there were roads back then....:D

jumpercable
03-10-07, 08:35 AM
NASA discovers bridge of Ramayana period
18.32 IST 09th Oct 2002

By IndiaExpress Bureau

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) space shuttle has imaged a mysterious ancient bridge between India and Sri Lanka, as mentioned in the Ramayana.

The evidence, according to experts is in the Digital Image Collection.

The bridge, which was discovered only recently, was named as Adam’s Bridge. It is made of a chain of shoals, 30 km long, in the Palk Straits between India and Sri Lanka.

The bridge reveals the mystery behind it. The bridge's unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man-made.

Legend as well as Archeological studies have it that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to the primitive age, about 1,750,000 years ago. And the bridge is almost equivalent.

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/briudge.jpg

I was hopeful the Neanderthals might have had some hand in building it, but it looks like a bunch of very primative apes beat them to it instead.

SkinWalker
03-10-07, 05:46 PM
There were no Neanderthals in this region of the world. Hominids at the point it was formed several million years ago didn't "construct" things.

The feature isn't a mystery or of significance to those educated in geology (as I have noted in this thread or elsewhere). The geologic processes that are responsible are well-understood and predicted.

But for the significance-junkie and mystery-monger, eager to find wild speculations that tug at their sense of incredulity without allowing themselves to be mildly educated, such features are completely baffling and evidence of ... something! What, specifically, they've no idea (the handicapped education, remember?), but they just "know" it's something.

jumpercable
03-10-07, 07:47 PM
There were no Neanderthals in this region of the world. Hominids at the point it was formed several million years ago didn't "construct" things.

The feature isn't a mystery or of significance to those educated in geology (as I have noted in this thread or elsewhere). The geologic processes that are responsible are well-understood and predicted.

But for the significance-junkie and mystery-monger, eager to find wild speculations that tug at their sense of incredulity without allowing themselves to be mildly educated, such features are completely baffling and evidence of ... something! What, specifically, they've no idea (the handicapped education, remember?), but they just "know" it's something.

Sounds like you might have had the qualifications to join the primative dudes who made it or could have made it. But for the sake of geology and anthropology, let's be glad you were not there. Try building a pyramid next time out.

SkinWalker
03-10-07, 10:07 PM
Your post is completely nonsensical.

Fraggle Rocker
03-11-07, 11:39 PM
Since "man" is only 70,000 or so years old, a bridge 1.7 million years old isn't likely to be man-made.Man is not 70,000 years old. That's when the diaspora out of Africa began, so there were no modern humans (H. sapiens) in Asia before then. Africa was full of modern humans for perhaps hundreds of thousands of years (but not millions) before that and other now-extinct H. species existed on other continents. The first creatures classified as genus Homo go back about three million years and lived in Africa.
But man is not just 70,000 years old. I don't want to get into an argument with no one, but the famous Stones of Ica, found in the Ocucaje desert in Perú, suggest there existed a civilization about 70 million years ago, living along with the dinosaurs. The evidence is strong enough to support this theory. Perhaps in some days from now I could give you more details on this.Accepting your assertion for the sake of argument, that was not a human civilization. Apes did not exist at all until about thirty million years ago. The first primates did not appear until around sixty million years ago, long after the demise of the dinosaurs.

IceAgeCivilizations
03-12-07, 08:34 AM
The landbridge to Sri Lanka was there when the Kings Ravana and Nediyon ruled the Kingdom of Kumari Kandam, they and their people had to flee north when the sea level rose at the end of the Ice Age, circa 1500 B.C.

Frag's numbers are predicated upon uniformitarian and Darwinian assumptions, hence "no apes with dinos," and all that other stuff.

Nickelodeon
03-12-07, 08:35 AM
Source?

IceAgeCivilizations
03-12-07, 08:43 AM
Ice Age Civilizations by Nienhuis

IceAgeCivilizations
03-12-07, 08:46 AM
The sources in the book are ancient Indian, and the presence of megalithic ruins on the shallow sea floor, from near there, north to Mahabalipuram, corroborates historical kings ruling from megalithic cities during the Ice Age.

jumpercable
03-12-07, 08:46 AM
Too bad they didn't make a suspension bridge out of it. I wonder if it is wide enough for two way traffic?

Nickelodeon
03-12-07, 10:39 AM
I don't see whats wrong with a good old fashioned tunnel.

Prince_James
03-12-07, 08:40 PM
It is complete bullshit that this is man-made and dates back to 1,750,000 years ago.

We'd be talking about Homo fucking Habilis!

jumpercable
03-12-07, 11:23 PM
It is complete bullshit that this is man-made and dates back to 1,750,000 years ago.

We'd be talking about Homo fucking Habilis!

Is that a new Homo spieces?

IceAgeCivilizations
03-13-07, 07:36 AM
I don't know, Genji probably does.

Prince_James
03-13-07, 07:57 PM
Jumpercable:

Yes. A sub-species of Homo habilis which adds "fucking" out of it being exasperated with pseudo-science.

jumpercable
03-13-07, 08:20 PM
Jumpercable:

Yes. A sub-species of Homo habilis which adds "fucking" out of it being exasperated with pseudo-science.

Nothing like a little 'Latin' to give your new homo sub-species name some 'flair'.

Fraggle Rocker
03-13-07, 09:46 PM
Frag's numbers are predicated upon uniformitarian and Darwinian assumptions, hence "no apes with dinos," and all that other stuff.Dude, you really need to learn some science. The broad outlines of evolution are not based on assumptions but revealed in the fossil record. The earliest fossils of animals that were vaguely primate-like are from an era ten million years after the demise of the dinosaurs. It took a long time for a creature that was really nothing more than a glorified sloth to evolve into prosimians and then into monkeys and then into apes.

This becomes a logic problem, not a science problem. Saying that apes and dinosaurs could have coexisted is like saying that 2+2 could equal 5. It's not merely wrong, it's illogical.

Come back after you've finished a few more years of your education. There are gaps in it the size of a dinosaur from the unremarkable and uncontroversial things you simply have not studied yet.

IceAgeCivilizations
03-13-07, 10:05 PM
And where are the fossils of tomorrow being formed today?

superstring01
03-18-07, 08:48 PM
I'm pretty skeptical. I don't have an substantiated facts that are germain to the topic at hand (I'll google it here in a bit), but if I'm not mistaken, early homonids didn't reach that area of the world 1.7 million years ago.

~String

kmguru
03-18-07, 09:10 PM
Do you think we will find fossil records of World Trade Center 100o years from now? How about finding human remains in societies who cremate the bodies? How long human remains will last in a mass grave? 100 years, 100 million years?

UltiTruth
03-19-07, 10:30 AM
Especially in the tropics, matter disappears fast!

superstring01
03-19-07, 11:51 AM
Um... but even in the tropics, bones and stones don't. Even cremated bones can be identified (unless they were somehow able to get their kilns above 2500 degrees OR if by some chance they took the extra step of effeciently grinding up the bones into dust). Either way, bones in the tropcs fossilize the same way bones in the temperate regions do.

~String

SkinWalker
03-19-07, 12:00 PM
There were hominids in the region at the time. They weren't human, however. They were Homo erectus. And there is fossil evidence of them. And they didn't cremate their dead, though they may have de-fleshed them if memory serves correct. I recall a journal article somewhere that discussed the tool marks present on H. ergaster or H. eretus (essentially the same species) bones.

The bottom line is the region between Sri Lanka and the mainland is shallow and the tombolo that exists today probably was well above sea level to the point that there were mile-wide (or more) stretches of land between them at the end of the last glaciation around 18,000 years ago. There were humans that probably had oral histories at this time. Oral histories get passed on from one generation to the next often by using permanent land forms as mnemonics to create a framework for the main story. Unfortunately, embellishment and exaggeration still creep into the stories as time goes on, turning perhaps real events into myths.

What we can tell from Vedic mythology about the region is that people were aware of the tombolo between India and Sri Lanka and probably used it at some point in the past before sea levels rose, inundating all but the highest points.

IceAgeCivilizations
03-19-07, 12:13 PM
"End of the last glaciation 18,000 years ago.?"

Wow, many say it was more like 10000 B.C. in three stages over several thousand years, and some say it ended circa 1500 B.C., to explain the submerged megaliths in many parts of the world, so you can see that the true date for this is in a state of flux.

Nickelodeon
03-19-07, 12:14 PM
Submerged megaliths?

IceAgeCivilizations
03-19-07, 12:25 PM
Off Rota, Chipiona, Huelva, Tarifa, Ys, Helgoland, Lixus, Malta, Platigiali, Astakos, Abdera, Elaphanisos, Yarmuta, Sidon, Menouthis, Herakleion, Syrene, Gulf of Kutch, Gulf of Cambay, off Sri Lanka, off Okinawa, and many other places.

Nickelodeon
03-19-07, 12:37 PM
Off Rota, Chipiona, Huelva, Tarifa, Ys, Helgoland, Lixus, Malta, Platigiali, Astakos, Abdera, Elaphanisos, Yarmuta, Sidon, Menouthis, Herakleion, Syrene, Gulf of Kutch, Gulf of Cambay, off Sri Lanka, off Okinawa, and many other places.
Wow some of those look amazing, especially Okinawa.

IceAgeCivilizations
03-19-07, 12:43 PM
Yes, those were built by the Jomon, there are ruins onshore which look similar.

And there are stone circles down there, with the ceremonial tiered plazas.

If you google around, you can find pictures or remote sensing results showing the various sites. And there are some excellent descriptions of some of the sites from divers. You have to dig, but the info's out there.

SkinWalker
03-19-07, 11:47 PM
With regard to "18,000 BP," I was referring to the last glacial maximum rather than the "end of the ice age." I should have been more clear. But it would have been at this point that the sea levels would have been the lowest and the climate the driest.

With regard to "submerged megaliths," there are many submerged rocks around the world. Very few are man-made, however. If you're suggesting any of the places you mentioned are, then you'll need to supply some sort of evidence in the way of citations for these claims to have any validity. Otherwise, you're just spouting the nonsense of mystery-mongers and significance-junkies that believe in poppycock pulp published by the likes of Graham Hancock, who doesn't have evidence to support the more fantastic of his claims to begin with.

kmguru
03-20-07, 12:24 AM
Related info:

http://flonnet.com/fl2112/stories/20040618003109700.htm

The bridge may be natural, but modern human may have originated there....

shaan
10-14-10, 12:02 AM
I dont think its manmade.If it is man made it would have been straight connecting the two extreme corners of both the lands,and thus decreasing the distance..But here it is built too long and in a curved manner.NASA says that the stones are "formed" approx.10,00,000 lakh years ago,and "not the bridge".This point must be concerned.Even if we take according to ramayana,at the end of the legend,it is said that Lord Rama had destroyed the bridge.:)

anjalisharma
04-02-11, 02:41 AM
These photos are really so great ,I don’t have exact words to describe these extrordinary photos,its really a proudness for us to have seen these marvellous views created in those days when Sri Ramchandraji has stepped on this earth.