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TruthSeeker
08-09-07, 02:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcUvM1d8JSs

Till then all our specie's cities are like that?

one_raven
08-09-07, 03:05 PM
I hope not.

BelgoHead
08-09-07, 03:16 PM
its just gonna end up being onother suburb of shanghai though its still a neat idea.....

I wonder howmany windmills it will take to power that city?

Klippymitch
08-13-07, 09:17 PM
Man... the Japanese are way ahead of us in tech.

I thinks it's the greed in America that gets us.

dixonmassey
08-13-07, 10:49 PM
Man... the Japanese are way ahead of us in tech.


So? The less tech the better life, up to a point, of course:) Japan is far from being a paradise, as far I know. I would die there fast , it's so depressing with all that tech. Funny thing, quite a number of Japanese share my "vision". Collective suicides - (almost) exclusively Japanese phenomenon.

TruthSeeker
08-14-07, 02:02 PM
You mean "chinese"... :rolleyes:

draqon
08-14-07, 08:13 PM
Kyoto protocol needs to be enforced

Klippymitch
08-14-07, 08:44 PM
You mean "chinese"... :rolleyes:

No, I meant Japan. Toyota is the leading automotive corporation in Japan and I believe they are the second in sales in America,unless Ford managed to make a quick comeback. GMC is the top seller but that wont last for too long. They lack innovative thinking and are slowly being left behind.

China is probably doing all the funding, but they certainly aren't going to build it themselves. China is still playing catch up with the western world in terms of Technology.

TruthSeeker
08-15-07, 04:36 AM
No. The city this thread mentions is in china. So I'm unsure why you are talking about Japan....

The city is called Dongtan. Check it out:
http://www.arup.com/newsitem.cfm?pageid=7009

"Arup unveils plans for world’s first sustainable city in Dongtan, China
Release date: 24/08/2005

Arup, the global planning, engineering and design consultancy, has signed a contract with Shanghai Industrial Investment Corporation (SIIC) to plan the world’s first sustainable city – an eco-city – at Dongtan, in Shanghai, China.

SIIC has appointed Arup as a strategic partner to work with them in the development of Dongtan as a dynamic, liveable and eco-friendly city, which will in turn define the future of sustainable urban development in China and beyond.

Arup’s approach to integrated sustainable urban planning and design will help to turn SIIC’s vision into reality and will create a city with lower energy consumption and one which is as close to being carbon neutral as possible within economic constraints. "

In wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongtan
"Dongtan (Simplified Chinese: 东滩; Traditional Chinese: 東灘; Pinyin: Dōngtān) is a new eco-city planned for the island of Chongming, near Shanghai, China. The name of the city literally translates as "East Beach".

Dongtan is planned to open, with accommodation for 50,000, by the time the Expo 2010 opens in Shanghai. By 2040, the city is slated to be one-third the size of Manhattan with a total eventual population of 500,000."

And...
"Zero-Carbon Cities
With cities worldwide facing daunting environmental challenges on a global scale, a multidisciplinary team at Arup seeks to create a model for how cities can develop carbon neutrally
By Sara Hart

Once upon a time, when the world’s population was a fraction of the 6.5 billion it is today, environmental issues were thought of as local problems. Writers, politicians, scientists, and activists have recorded the polluted, disease-producing conditions of urban centers for centuries. Benjamin Franklin petitioned the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1739 to stop dumping waste and remove tanneries from Philadelphia’s commercial district, citing foul odors, lower property values, and disease. And yet, even the proto-environmentalist Franklin could not predict that centuries of local industrial recklessness would one day endanger the entire planet."
http://archrecord.construction.com/tech/techFeatures/0703feature-1.asp

Klippymitch
08-15-07, 10:33 PM
No. The city this thread mentions is in china. So I'm unsure why you are talking about Japan....

The city is called Dongtan. Check it out:
http://www.arup.com/newsitem.cfm?pageid=7009

"Arup unveils plans for world’s first sustainable city in Dongtan, China
Release date: 24/08/2005

Arup, the global planning, engineering and design consultancy, has signed a contract with Shanghai Industrial Investment Corporation (SIIC) to plan the world’s first sustainable city – an eco-city – at Dongtan, in Shanghai, China.

SIIC has appointed Arup as a strategic partner to work with them in the development of Dongtan as a dynamic, liveable and eco-friendly city, which will in turn define the future of sustainable urban development in China and beyond.

Arup’s approach to integrated sustainable urban planning and design will help to turn SIIC’s vision into reality and will create a city with lower energy consumption and one which is as close to being carbon neutral as possible within economic constraints. "

In wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongtan
"Dongtan (Simplified Chinese: 东滩; Traditional Chinese: 東灘; Pinyin: Dōngtān) is a new eco-city planned for the island of Chongming, near Shanghai, China. The name of the city literally translates as "East Beach".

Dongtan is planned to open, with accommodation for 50,000, by the time the Expo 2010 opens in Shanghai. By 2040, the city is slated to be one-third the size of Manhattan with a total eventual population of 500,000."

And...
"Zero-Carbon Cities
With cities worldwide facing daunting environmental challenges on a global scale, a multidisciplinary team at Arup seeks to create a model for how cities can develop carbon neutrally
By Sara Hart

Once upon a time, when the world’s population was a fraction of the 6.5 billion it is today, environmental issues were thought of as local problems. Writers, politicians, scientists, and activists have recorded the polluted, disease-producing conditions of urban centers for centuries. Benjamin Franklin petitioned the Pennsylvania Assembly in 1739 to stop dumping waste and remove tanneries from Philadelphia’s commercial district, citing foul odors, lower property values, and disease. And yet, even the proto-environmentalist Franklin could not predict that centuries of local industrial recklessness would one day endanger the entire planet."
http://archrecord.construction.com/tech/techFeatures/0703feature-1.asp

Toyota

TruthSeeker
08-16-07, 04:29 AM
Anyways... :rolleyes:

And here I thought that I could possibly get some interesting discussion going in sciforums.... :D

one_raven
08-16-07, 10:16 PM
Anyways... :rolleyes:

And here I thought that I could possibly get some interesting discussion going in sciforums.... :D

I tried.
You didn't respond to me. :shrug:

Klippymitch
08-16-07, 10:27 PM
Anyways... :rolleyes:

And here I thought that I could possibly get some interesting discussion going in sciforums.... :D

What do you mean? How am i wrong?

Name one corporation in China that can match the standards of Toyota.

TruthSeeker
08-17-07, 02:21 PM
I tried.
You didn't respond to me. :shrug:
Oh. I'm sorry, your post was so small I could barely detect it.. LOL!!! :D

Ok, why not? :p

Archie
08-18-07, 04:21 AM
This is going to happen in the People's Republic of China? The same place as the 'Great Leap Forward' and several 'Five Year' plans? The nation who's idea of social reform is tanks in Tianimin Square? That one?

Yeah.

Everything controlled by the central government.

Sure it will work. Because the government says it will work. Or they'll just execute the whole city.

TruthSeeker
08-18-07, 02:56 PM
Someone has a very warped view of the world.....

countezero
08-19-07, 12:41 AM
Kyoto protocol needs to be enforced

The same Kyoto that is fucking up the ozone?

draqon
08-19-07, 12:46 AM
The same Kyoto that is fucking up the ozone?

hardly...

Kyoto has done so much for a carbon neutral city alike

http://www.bikefriday.com/sites/default/files/images/16.Kataoka-san,Ono-san,Arima-san.jpg

...they even made the businessman wear regular cloth just so that the business companies would use less conditioners/fans.