If you had to choose between democracy and prosperity, what would you choose and why?

Why not both? You can have them both as you well know so why can't that ne an option?:shrug:

Prosperity. Straight democracy's highly overrated. Didn't bother choosing other as that defeats the purpose of choosing between the two, but I would've picked republic.

Prosperity. Straight democracy's highly overrated. Didn't bother choosing other as that defeats the purpose of choosing between the two, but I would've picked republic.

A republic is a form of democracy

Not necessarily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic#Concepts_of_democracy

Not necessarily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic#Concepts_of_democracy

They are. Or do you think the American republic is synonymous to the Chinese Republic? Just because they call it so, does not make it so.

Are you suggesting China isn't a republic then? What I'm opposing is direct democracy, and had I a choice between living in China and living in a theoretical direct democracy, I'd probably pick China.

It's a false dilemma, a critical thinking error.
One option does not exclude the other.

Not really, its the current economic crisis.

Not really, its the current economic crisis.

Elaborate please.

I disagree. The problem is unregulated capitalism, not democracy or prosperity.

Communism.

If you had to choose between democracy and prosperity, what would you choose and why?

I would choose prosperity. There is no such thing as a democracy, just an illusion of it.

I disagree. The problem is unregulated capitalism, not democracy or prosperity.

I disagree. The problem is government distortion of the market which caused the market to become dysfunctional, not unregulated capitalism.

I disagree. The problem is government distortion of the market which caused the market to become dysfunctional, not unregulated capitalism.

I'm talking about my own country.
Big business should be government owned.

I'm talking about my own country.

Latvia is in the economic suffrage too? :eek: :bugeye: seriously?

Yeah, it's all doom and gloom here as well. :D Everyone's suffering, except monopolies.
Fucking morons.
At least we haven't yet gone bankrupt like Iceland.

Elaborate please.

I figure when the government starts giving away taxpayer money, its no longer a democracy

I figure when the government starts giving away taxpayer money, its no longer a democracy

That makes no sense. You can have a direct democracy that votes for giving away taxpayer money, perhaps via stimulus checks, perhaps via subsidies for specific businesses, etc.

Know any direct democracy where the poor pay the rich to avoid their bankruptcy?

I figure when the government starts giving away taxpayer money, its no longer a democracy

The govt always gave away money to the poor. just that you are not aware or used to that happening.

Hey, Sam actually started an interesting thread what is not a troll! Congratulations!!

Kind of funny that most people think, screw democracy, I wanna be rich!

They are. Or do you think the American republic is synonymous to the Chinese Republic? Just because they call it so, does not make it so.

It is synonomous... the ROC's government structure is based on America's.

Government of the Republic of China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_Republic_of_China)

Latvia is in the economic suffrage too? :eek: :bugeye: seriously?

Draqon do you know what suffrage means? Apparenty not, cause otherwise you wouldn't have used it incorrectly. anyway, it means the right to vote.


as for my choice in the poll, i picked democracy. money is nice, but seriously, what's the point of it anyway? in the end, it doesn't matter what you had, it matters what you did. besides, you don't get to take it with you when you die. it is better to have liberty, happiness, justice, independence, take control of your life, have a say in your government, even have a chance (however slight) of joining it.

What is a democracy but a dictatorship run by an incompetent moron known as "the majority"?

Please disregard this comment in relation to sciforums, if james r and asguard and co can do it, so can I.

Know any direct democracy where the poor pay the rich to avoid their bankruptcy?

You know the 700 billion dollar bailout plan is dwarfed by social security (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_social_security), right?

If you had to choose between democracy and prosperity, what would you choose and why?

It's like asking to choose between water and air, why can't we have them both? :confused:

I disagree. The problem is government distortion of the market which caused the market to become dysfunctional, not unregulated capitalism.

yes because back when the government didn't get involved everything was just peachy.

yes because back when the government didn't get involved everything was just peachy.

Are you suggesting that government distortion of the market isn't what caused the problem?

If so, I'll direct you to this thread: http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=86703&page=3

Read my post, #46, and BillyT's post, #49, and then you can address my actual arguments instead of just strawmen like "when gov't isn't involved, everything is peachy." :rolleyes:

And, if you do prefer to continue this discussion, let's do it in that thread instead of here.

Are you suggesting that government distortion of the market isn't what caused the problem?

If so, I'll direct you to this thread: http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=86703&page=3

Read my post, #46, and BillyT's post, #49, and then you can address my actual arguments instead of just strawmen like "when gov't isn't involved, everything is peachy." :rolleyes:

And, if you do prefer to continue this discussion, let's do it in that thread instead of here.

No what i am suggesting is the view you seem to have that the government is the source of all the problems in the economy. When it comes to economic issues you do seem to be part of the crowd that says its the government's fault for getting involved which is rather disturbing to me because the modern middle class(you know the back bone of the American economy) was able to become into being simply because the government got involved.