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countezero 06-04-07, 02:26 PM Jury Indicts Jefferson in Bribery Probe
By LARA JAKES JORDAN
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., was indicted Monday on federal charges of racketeering, soliciting bribes and money-laundering in a long- running bribery investigation into business deals he tried to broker in Africa.
The indictment handed up in federal court in Alexandria., Va., Monday is 94 pages long and lists 16 alleged violations of federal law that could keep Jefferson in prison for up to 235 years. He is charged with racketeering, soliciting bribes, wire fraud, money-laundering, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
Jefferson is accused of soliciting bribes for himself and his family, and also for bribing a Nigerian official.
Almost two years ago, in August 2005, investigators raided Jefferson's home in Louisiana and found $90,000 in cash stuffed into a box in his freezer.
Jefferson, 63, whose Louisiana district includes New Orleans, has said little about the case publicly but has maintained his innocence. He was re-elected last year despite the looming investigation.
Jefferson, in Louisiana on Monday, could not immediately be reached for comment.
Two of Jefferson's associates have already struck plea bargains with prosecutors and have been sentenced.
Brett Pfeffer, a former congressional aide, admitted soliciting bribes on Jefferson's behalf and was sentenced to eight years in prison.
Another Jefferson associate, Louisville, Ky., telecommunications executive Vernon Jackson, pleaded guilty to paying between $400,000 and $1 million in bribes to Jefferson in exchange for his assistance securing business deals in Nigeria and other African nations. Jackson was sentenced to more than seven years in prison.
Both Pfeffer and Jackson agreed to cooperate in the case against Jefferson in exchanges for their pleas.
The impact of the case has stretched across continents and even roiled presidential politics in Nigeria. According to court records, Jefferson told associates that he needed cash to pay bribes to the country's vice president, Atiku Abubakar.
Abubakar denied the allegations, which figured prominently in that country's presidential elections in April. Abubakar ran for the presidency and finished third.
The indictment does not name Abubakar. But it describes Jefferson's dealings with an unnamed "Nigerian Official A" who was a high-ranking official in Nigeria's executive branch who had a spouse in Potomac, Md. One of Abubakar's wives lived in that Washington suburb.
Court records indicate that Jefferson was videotape taking a $100,000 cash bribe from an FBI informant. Most of that money later turned up in a freezer in Jefferson's home.
In May 2006, the FBI raided Jefferson's congressional office, the first such raid on a sitting congressman's Capitol office. That move sparked a constitutional debate over whether the executive branch stepped over its boundary.
The legality of the raid is still being argued on appeal. House leaders objected to the search saying it was an unconstitutional intrusion on the lawmaking process. The FBI said the raid was necessary because Jefferson and his legal team had failed to respond to requests for documents.
Some but not all the documents seized in the raid have been turned over Justice Department prosecutors.
Pandaemoni 06-04-07, 04:46 PM Though an indictment is a long way from a conviction, at least it's a sign the process is moving forward--as his case was pretty egregious.
Baron Max 06-04-07, 06:43 PM Though an indictment is a long way from a conviction, at least it's a sign the process is moving forward--as his case was pretty egregious.
Yeah, in 10 or 20 years, he might actually come to trial ....though I doubt it very much.
Baron Max
Buffalo Roam 06-04-07, 08:47 PM If this was a Repub, he would have already been driven out of office, ya tell me about the Demorats, the most ethical congress ever?
Yeah. The democrats were going to end the culture of corruption. Sure... Just like Cold Cash Jefferson who had 90k in his freezer. Not only is he not in prison, he's on our HOMELAND SECURITY committee.:mad:
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/02/house-gop-to-object-to-jeffersons.html
madanthonywayne 06-05-07, 12:07 AM Yeah. The democrats were going to end the culture of corruption. Sure... Just like Cold Cash Jefferson who had 90k in his freezer. Not only is he not in prison, he's on our HOMELAND SECURITY committee.:mad:
http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/02/house-gop-to-object-to-jeffersons.html
I'm surprised he was even indicted. Sure, they have him dead to rights. But he's a Democrat. Everyone knows Democrats are never punished for their crimes.
Scooter Libby gets tripped up on some details of a situation that's not even a crime and he's in jail! This guy has $90,000 in marked bills in his freezer and, finally, he's indicted.
He'll probably never see a jail cell or even lose his seat in congress.
I always thought it was a little odd that it was the Republican party that raised the loudest stink over the FBI's investigation of Jefferson.
I'm surprised he was even indicted. Sure, they have him dead to rights. But he's a Democrat. Everyone knows Democrats are never punished for their crimes.
What about Traficant? Wasn't he charged with like 10 felonies?
I'm surprised he was even indicted. Sure, they have him dead to rights. But he's a Democrat. Everyone knows Democrats are never punished for their crimes.
Scooter Libby gets tripped up on some details of a situation that's not even a crime and he's in jail! This guy has $90,000 in marked bills in his freezer and, finally, he's indicted.
He'll probably never see a jail cell or even lose his seat in congress.
http://www.electric-escape.net/node/1234
And Barney Frank. What a freakshow. He admitted a lengthy relationship with a male hooker who ran a prostitution service out of Frank's apartment. Frank gets a slap on the wrist and reelected. What a joke.:(
Pandaemoni 06-05-07, 10:26 AM What about Traficant? Wasn't he charged with like 10 felonies?
And, if we are going that far back, Dan Rostenkowski.
Clinton was the worst:
William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate - Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate :mad:
RECORDS SET
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
spidergoat 06-05-07, 12:01 PM Enough with the freaking "gates". They were all the result of Republican witch hunts, and therefore meaningless or minor. I don't think you want me to list a Republican Crime Blotter, we might have to get another server to accommodate them all.
Buffalo Roam 06-05-07, 01:16 PM spidergoat
Enough with the freaking "gates". They were all the result of Republican witch hunts, and therefore meaningless or minor. I don't think you want me to list a Republican Crime Blotter, we might have to get another server to accommodate them all.
VS. The Demorats and their Witch Hunts?
spidergoat 06-05-07, 01:35 PM Example? Don't say the Plame investigation because that began with a formal CIA complaint.
countezero 06-05-07, 03:29 PM To a large degree, the Republicans are not reaping the fruits of their fruitless attempts to nail Clinton for wrongdoing. Regardless, excusing Democratic witch hunts with Republican ones is illogical. Both are silly and stupid and shouldn't be tolerated by the people.
As to the subject matter of this thread, Jefferson's prosecution most definitely does not look like it is a witch hunt. To me, it looks like the real deal...
Buffalo Roam 06-05-07, 03:46 PM spidergoat
Example? Don't say the Plame investigation because that began with a formal CIA complaint.
Please post the charges for which Scooter Libby was convicted, and then tell me it wasn't a witch hunt. He was never charged for Outing poor little Valery, and in the end it was nothing but a witch hunt.
This is what the AP story said of the indictment,
WASHINGTON - The vice president’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby Jr., was indicted Friday on charges of obstruction of justice, perjury and making false statements
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/ExWhite_House_adviser_guilty_of_4_0306.html
The verdicts for the individual charges against Libby are as follows, according to the Associated Press:
* - Obstruction of Justice: GUILTY
* False statements to FBI investigators (about Russert conversation): GUILTY
* False statement to FBI investigators (about Cooper conversation): NOT GUILTY
* Perjury to the Grand Jury (about Tim Russert conversation): GUILTY
* Perjury to the Grand Jury (about the Matt Cooper conversation): GUILTY
Nothing about Poor little Valery.
spidergoat 06-05-07, 03:58 PM Scooter Libby was charged with perjory, obstruction of justice and making false statements to FBI investigators [CNN]. It was not a witch hunt, but an investigation into who leaked Plame's name as a covert operator. Libby's actions, for which he was convicted, made learning the truth of the leak virtually impossible, which makes it a very serious crime. You think it makes any difference that he wasn't convicted of Plame's outing? OK, so we can't prove Libby was a traitor to the country, just a criminal lier with regard to a very serious matter (as opposed to some harmless fornication).
Buffalo Roam 06-05-07, 04:13 PM spidergoat
No the investigation never went to who outed Poor Little Valerie or her status, it was about memories of who spoke to who when, they dropped the investigation into the outing when it became clear that the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 was not applicable to her status in the CIA that part of the investigation was dropped, so if it was dropped why did it continue? no crime was committed? instead they went on to *
- Obstruction of Justice: GUILTY
* False statements to FBI investigators (about Russert conversation): GUILTY
* False statement to FBI investigators (about Cooper conversation): NOT GUILTY
* Perjury to the Grand Jury (about Tim Russert conversation): GUILTY
* Perjury to the Grand Jury (about the Matt Cooper conversation): GUILTY
Nothing ever charged on outing a covert agent.
spidergoat 06-05-07, 05:14 PM It was ALL about Plame's outing. If you are trying to insinuate that she wasn't a covert agent, you are incorrect, this fact was confirmed once and for all in testimony in congress. If you don't see how finding out who spoke to who and when is relevent to who revealed Plame's identity as a covert agent, then I can't help you.
Patrick Fitzgerald explained it rather well. How can an umpire call the game when he's getting sand kicked in his face?
The reason the IIPA wasn't used is that for one thing it was impossible to sort through a web of lies, and the other is that Fitzgerald would have to prove that they did it "knowingly", which is hard to prove.
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On March 16, 2007, at these hearings [Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Hearing on Disclosure of CIA Agent Valerie Plame Wilson's ldentity and White House Procedures for Safeguarding Classified Information] about the disclosure, Chairman Henry Waxman read a statement about Plame's CIA career that had been cleared by CIA director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the CIA:
During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover.
Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.
At the time of the publication of Robert Novak's column on July 14, 2003, Ms. Wilson's CIA employment status was covert.
This was classified information.
Ms. Wilson served in senior management positions at the CIA, in which she oversaw the work of other CIA employees, and she attained the level of GS-14, step 6 under the federal pay scale.
Ms. Wilson worked on some of the most sensitive and highly secretive matters handled by the CIA.
Ms. Wilson served at various times overseas for the CIA.
Without discussing the specifics of Ms. Wilson's classified work, it is accurate to say that she worked on the prevention of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States.
In her various positions at the CIA, Ms. Wilson faced significant risks to her personal safety and her life. [55][PDF File] (http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20070316104030-43341.pdf)
Buffalo Roam 06-05-07, 06:22 PM spidergoat.
But for there to be a crime under Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982, she had to have been in a operational status over seas with in the last 5 years, she had not been on over seas operations for over 5 years, that is the law
SUBCHAPTER IV--PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION
Sec. 422. Defenses and exceptions
(a) Disclosure by United States of identity of covert agent
It is a defense to a prosecution under section 421 of this title
that before the commission of the offense with which the defendant is
charged, the United States had publicly acknowledged or revealed the
intelligence relationship to the United States of the individual the
disclosure of whose intelligence relationship to the United States is
the basis for the prosecution.
(b) Conspiracy, misprision of felony, aiding and abetting, etc.
(1) Subject to paragraph (2), no person other than a person
committing an offense under section 421 of this title shall be subject
to prosecution under such section by virtue of section 2 or 4 of title
18 or shall be subject to prosecution for conspiracy to commit an
offense under such section.
(d) Disclosure by agent of own identity
It shall not be an offense under section 421 of this title for an
individual to disclose information that solely identifies himself as a
covert agent.
DEFINITIONS
SEC. 606. [50 U.S.C. 426] For the purposes of this title:
4) The term "covert agent" means—
(A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency—
(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and
(ii) who is serving outside the United States or
has within the last five years served outside the United States; or
(B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and—
(i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or
(ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; or
(C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/07/eveningnews/main1981433.shtml
Armitage immediately met with FBI agents investigating the leak.
"I told them that I was the inadvertent leak," Armitage says. He didn't get a lawyer, however.
"First of all, I felt so terrible about what I'd done that I felt I deserved whatever was coming to me. And secondarily, I didn't need an attorney to tell me to tell the truth. I as already doing that," Armitage explains. "I was not intentionally outing anybody. As I say, I have tremendous respect for Ambassador. Wilson's African credentials. I didn't know anything about his wife and made an offhand comment. I didn't try to out anybody."
That was nearly three years ago, but the political firestorm over who leaked Valerie Plame's identity continued to burn as Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald began hauling White House officials and journalists before a grand jury.
Armitage says he didn't come forward because "the special counsel, once he was appointed, asked me not to discuss this and I honored his request."
So please explain your thought in light of;
(b) Conspiracy, misprision of felony, aiding and abetting, etc.
(1) Subject to paragraph (2),
no person other than a person
committing an offense under section 421 of this title shall be subject
to prosecution under such section by virtue of section 2 or 4 of title
18 or shall be subject to prosecution for conspiracy to commit an
offense under such section.
How Scooter Liby is guilty of outing Poor Valerie, when it was Richard Armitage who was the one who admitted to doing the outing?
And if this wasn't a witch hunt? why did the special prosecutor;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/07/eveningnews/main1981433.shtml
Armitage says he didn't come forward because "the special counsel, once he was appointed, asked me not to discuss this and I honored his request."
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001399.php
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That said, I have learned from several other sources that Richard Armitage was neck deep in the Valerie Plame story. According to several insiders, as soon as Armitage realized mistakes he had made, he marched into Colin Powell and laid out "everything" in full detail.
As others have written and reported, Richard Armitage is a major part of the story and engaged in indiscreet discussions regarding Valerie Plame Wilson and her alleged role in the Joe Wilson trip to Niger.
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Two sources have reported that Richard Armitage has testified three times before the grand jury and has completely cooperated and has been, as one source reported, "a complete straight-shooter" and "honest about his role and mistakes".
Another person with deep knowledge about this investigation called to say that Fitzgerald seems to have abandoned any interest in securing indictments regarding the "outing" of Plame and has invested his efforts in challenging the "white collar cover-ups" involved. According to this source, the information provided by Richard Armitage is -- more than any other information -- what has put Karl Rove at major risk of indictment.
I felt that these other insider perspectives are important as they are so uniformly consistent that Inman's claims are wrong, that Armitage made mistakes and immediately owned up to them, that Armitage has been completely forthcoming in the investigation,
and that Karl Rove remains a prime indictment target for Patrick Fitzgerald.
So if this was not a witch hunt explain the facts that I have shown;
1. Richard Armatage outed Poor Valierie.
2. The Special Councle: from Armitage own admission, "the special counsel, once he was appointed, asked me not to discuss this and I honored his request"
3. The Special Councle already knew who had outed Poor Valerie.
4. He didn't indict anyone for outing Poor Valerie.
So lets hear your explanation why this wasn't a witch hunt.
spidergoat 06-05-07, 06:31 PM 1. I went through all this before. Armitage's admission may have been the truth or not. It may have been the first outing of Plame or not. It would be a poor investigator indeed that dismissed the case based on one person's testimony.
2. Seems like standard procedure.
3. You mean the special council had one person's point of view, not necessarily the only one.
4. Couldn't, due to obfuscation on the part of those being investigated. This alone was reason to investigate the matter to the furthest degree. No one has accused Fitzgerald of a personal bias. He was a reputation for being fair, and finally, he was recommended for the position by a Republican.
iceaura 06-05-07, 06:32 PM Please post the charges for which Scooter Libby was convicted, and then tell me it wasn't a witch hunt. He was never charged for Outing poor little Valery, and in the end it was nothing but a witch hunt. In the end, if it ends as it appears now (by no means certain), it will be another demonstration that the normal oversight and agencies of US governance have been so corrupted that not even direct and flagrant and admitted betrayal of the country by its highest officials can be held to account.
Rove still has a high-level security clearance. Does anyone have any idea why Rove was given a security clearance in the first place?
Buffalo Roam 06-05-07, 07:51 PM Sandy Burger?
Oops! I accidentally dropped these highly classified documents in ...
Sandy Berger "accidentally" steals highly classified documents .... Maybe Clinton's top national security aide didn't want others to see what they ...
http://forums.somd.com/archive/index.php/t-30234.html
New York Post ^ | May 27, 2007 | Staff
BERGER'S ETERNAL SECRET May 27, 2007 -- It now looks like the American people will never learn how - and why - Bill Clinton's national security adviser, Sandy "Sticky Fingers" Berger, stole and destroyed classified documents from the National Archives. That's because Berger - in a significant, but little-noticed, move - has short-circuited the last investigation into his sordid little burglary. As Byron York reports at National Review Online, Berger last week voluntarily surrendered his law license. Now, that's hardly as serious a step as it sounds, since - as Berger freely admitted - "I have not [practiced law] for...
countezero 06-05-07, 08:54 PM How does a thread about a Democratic Congressman end up being about Clinton, Karl Rove, George Bush and Scooter Libby? Can we not stay on topic? Must everything devolve into a partisan cat fight...
madanthonywayne 06-07-07, 03:31 PM It was ALL about Plame's outing. If you are trying to insinuate that she wasn't a covert agent, you are incorrect, this fact was confirmed once and for all in testimony in congress. If you don't see how finding out who spoke to who and when is relevent to who revealed Plame's identity as a covert agent, then I can't help you.
Throughout the Bush administration the State Department and CIA have worked against him thru a series of"leaks" that disrupt our counterterror operations and make Bush look bad.
I believe the whole Plame situation was a set up from the start. If Plame was so concerned about her safety and identity as a secret agent, why the hell did she nominate her unqualifed husband for a WMD mision to Africa? Why the hell did her husband subsequently write an editorial about his trip? Is it not reasonable to assume that people would wonder how he got sent on that mission in the first place? Isn't it reasonable for covert agents and their families to maintain a low profile rather than injecting themselves into heated political debates?
She nominated him knowing her name would come up and she could cry foul. Then they could get some people under oath and if they screwed up, bingo, jailtime and Bush is made to look bad. It was probably one of the best run CIA operations in a long time. Unfortunately, the target was our own government.
Bush should have fired 90% of the people at the CIA and state department as soon as he took office. If they spent half the energy and time they spend working against Bush on pursuing our enemies, we'd have Osama's head on a pike by now.
countezero 06-07-07, 03:37 PM CBC digs in for Jefferson
By Jonathan E. Kaplan
The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) dug in its heels yesterday in defense of indicted Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) and expressed concerns that a House ethics investigation on the lawmaker’s alleged corrupt activities could influence, even poison, a future jury trial.
Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-Mich.), the CBC chairwoman, said in a release, “We trust the merits of the case against Congressman Jefferson will be examined in a court of law instead of the chambers of public opinion.”
“The presumption of innocence has a significant meaning, even for a member of Congress,” said Rep. G.K. Butterfield (D-N.C.), who said he had spoken to Jefferson during the past 48 hours. “It is difficult to read these very serious allegations and not jump to a conclusion, but we must not do that.”
Nevertheless, nearly all CBC lawmakers voted for a measure that requires the ethics committee to investigate any lawmaker who has been indicted. Of the six Democratic lawmakers opposed to the Democratic resolution, two were CBC members: Reps. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.) and John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.).
“The ethics committee has no credibility,” said Clay, who also rejected a GOP-backed resolution Tuesday night that called on the ethics panel to investigate Jefferson. “We have had since 2005 to decide what to do, why now? It’s shenanigans.”
No CBC lawmaker has called for Jefferson to resign.
When asked, Clay said, “That’s on him.”
Meanwhile, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) yesterday said, “I think Mr. Jefferson’s effectiveness has been substantially impaired, and I think he needs to take that into consideration as to what action he is going to take.”
The CBC has attempted to protect Jefferson from political pressure to resign, but it has not been able to stop the Democratic Caucus from stripping him of his committee assignments.
Jefferson spared his colleagues from a difficult vote by temporarily resigning on Monday from the Small Business Committee. Jefferson did not vote on either ethics resolution on Tuesday.
Butterfield said that Jefferson was “holding up well,” but that he was distressed and concerned about the case and the potential legal fees.
Jefferson has $32,963 in his war chest and reported no donations to his legal defense fund during the first quarter of this year, according to Political Money Line, which tracks campaign finance data.
House Republicans raised questions about whether some Democrats appointed to the ethics pool could impartially judge Jefferson.
One of the contributors, Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), said, “If I thought I could not be fair and impartial, I’d recuse myself.”
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), who also contributed money to Jefferson, would answer that question if she is selected from the ethics pool, said Nathan Britton, Lee’s spokesman.
Reps. Butterfield, Julia Carson (D-Ind.), Ed Pastor (D-Ariz.), and Sanford Bishop, Jr. (D-Ga.) contributed to his campaign this year. Reps. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and Meeks contributed to his legal defense fund last year.
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who donated money to former Majority Leader Tom DeLay’s (R-Texas) legal defense fund, recused himself from an ethics committee investigation in 2005.
Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) also recused himself from the panel in 2005 because he contributed money to DeLay.
iceaura 06-07-07, 08:11 PM Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-Mich.), the CBC chairwoman, said in a release, “We trust the merits of the case against Congressman Jefferson will be examined in a court of law instead of the chambers of public opinion.” The CBC has a legitimate worry there. Fox has already weighed in, running John Conyers's picture on TV as the perp. It was a "mistake" by a staffer in a hurry, who pulled the wrong file.
Conyers and Jefferson are not that close in the alphabet. Does Fox file all the black Congressmen next to each other in the same folder or something ?
Anybody think the Abramoff affair - still unfolding, btw - will get anything like the headlines it would, if the comparatively trivial Jefferson crimes grab all the headlines ?
madanthonywayne 06-07-07, 10:04 PM \
Anybody think the Abramoff affair - still unfolding, btw - will get anything like the headlines it would, if the comparatively trivial Jefferson crimes grab all the headlines ?
Trivial? If convicted on all counts he could do over two hundred years
The indictment handed up Monday in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia, is 94 pages long and lists 16 alleged violations of federal law that could keep Jefferson in prison for up to 235 years, according to a Justice Department official who has seen the document.
countezero 06-07-07, 10:52 PM What does Fox have to do with anything? This is an AP story about a Congressman who has a lot of questions to answer...
The Abramoff affair? Seems like the Democrats and the Media only cared about it when it made for a good bat to beat the Republicans with in the days running up to the election. Personally, I think it ought to be covered more, and given a more prominent place in said coverage. As for this story, I look for it to be buried...
And, if we are going that far back, Dan Rostenkowski.
It wasn't all that long ago; I still remember watching the local news about it, and I'm relatively young.
iceaura 06-08-07, 01:59 PM Trivial? If convicted on all counts he could do over two hundred years Comparatively trivial. It's called "English" - a beautiful language you might want to look into some time.
What does Fox have to do with anything? You brought them in, by quoting the CBC worries about fair reporting.
Buffalo Roam 06-08-07, 02:50 PM spidergoat
It was ALL about Plame's outing. If you are trying to insinuate that she wasn't a covert agent, you are incorrect, this fact was confirmed once and for all in testimony in congress. If you don't see how finding out who spoke to who and when is relevent to who revealed Plame's identity as a covert agent, then I can't help you.
If it was all about the outing of poor Valerie, how come no one has been charged with outing her? That is the crime you allege that Scooter Libby did, even though Richard Armitage was the one who outed her? Why wasn't Armitage brought under charges?
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First thing you should know is that Richard Armitage is widely respected in ... that the person most responsible for outing Valerie Plame is Joseph Wilson. ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213061,00.html
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