What is your take on what is being designed here?

Obviously that is NOT JUST a "TooMuchTimeOnYourHandsAndAccessToAutoCAD/MasterCAM/SolidWorksOrOtherCADSoftware" Digital Doodle.
Ergo, it must be a "TachyonAmplifyingInterDimensionalTransferVessel".
These will be/were all the rage at the watching of the "Big Bang"!
However, just prior to/soon after the event, they were outlawed by Pan Dimensional Homeland Security because of causing "Stuttering/Echoing" of the Microfabric of "The Creator"'s Blasphemy-Proof Veil of Ignorance/Indifference.
It should be mentioned though that it is/was/wil be rumoured by "Conspiracy Theorists" that one was/wil be manfactured out of pure "Unobtanium238" and currently/was/will sits/sat/sit at the center of "The Creator"'s "Matrix".
Being that I am the dumbest man on earth though, I'm gonna guess that those are leaked Patent Drawings of the soon to be released Apple iPhone 5G !

Nice try...


I mean REALLY nice try...

BTW... pleased to meet you DMOE

BTW... pleased to meet you DMOE

Ditto to you kind sir.
And, also a BTW: I intentionally refrained from using words like "containment", "sink" or "trap".
Later...

Ditto to you kind sir.
And, also a BTW: I intentionally refrained from using words like "containment", "sink" or "trap".
Later...

If you want to take a realistic stab at it, feel free. If you read some of my other OP's you may get a better idea.

I'm just having fun with a guessing game for engineering types. I'd be taken aback if one of my engineering colleagues from real life who actually knows what they are ruined the game for everyone.

HAGO... :)

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4521&d=1329441309

This is what that glass thing in the center hopes to achieve.

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4520&d=1329421422

There's the thing in the middle again. I'll be building a prototype of that glass thing in the middle this spring, so either it will become
1. simplified

2. scrapped or

3. elaborated upon.

I hope to eventually include a fresnel lensing system to use the glass thing for producing power if only through collecting and amplifying sunlight.

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4525&stc=1&d=1329758227

Here's the original Thermal electric core device. Left in direct sunlight all day in the summer and, after a few days, it will charge a 12 volt battery.

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4520&d=1329421422

There's the thing in the middle again. I'll be building a prototype of that glass thing in the middle this spring, so either it will become
1. simplified

2. scrapped or

3. elaborated upon.

I hope to eventually include a fresnel lensing system to use the glass thing for producing power if only through collecting and amplifying sunlight.

Interesting looking gadget.

Sunlight would seem to be an endless resource if we can but become more efficient in it's utilization.

I have no background in science or engineering although I appreciate it's application, so kindly tolerate any 'uninformed remarks' that I might make. :o

What size is this unit? The pictures in the next post are too blurry for me to determine what they are illustrating.

Is this just a small scale prototype?

What type of applications do you have in mind?

Thank you in advance for your time, should you care to elaborate further. :)

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4519&d=1329421388

These are essentially houseboats that may be able to replace atandard housing in areas that are prone to flooding, hurricanes, quakes and anywhere that a shield against Flux Compression Events is needed. Aluminnum skinned, built from wood and composite structure and plan to incorporate sun and wind power for energy. The blurry photo is me with my first thermal electric core.

These are actually designed at 24 feet in diameter vertex circle, but can be redcued to 16 feet or expanded to about 100 feet. Bigger than 100 feet must be constructed on site.

The model in this post is 24 feeet. It is simpler to build.

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4519&d=1329421388

These are essentially houseboats that may be able to replace atandard housing in areas that are prone to flooding, hurricanes, quakes and anywhere that a shield against Flux Compression Events is needed. Aluminnum skinned, built from wood and composite structure and plan to incorporate sun and wind power for energy. The blurry photo is me with my first thermal electric core.

These are actually designed at 24 feet in diameter vertex circle, but can be redcued to 16 feet or expanded to about 100 feet. Bigger than 100 feet must be constructed on site.

The model in this post is 24 feeet. It is simpler to build.

Thank you for providing more details, Hector. :)

Interesting design. Round is a strong shape and the hinged leveling legs would allow stabilizing on varied terrain if I understand their purpose.

What type of wood to you think would be best used in the construction?

If beset by flooding, is there a means by which to navigate or steer this 'houseboat' or it is at the whim of the direction of the flow?

Do you have any kind of preliminary figures of what such a unit will cost to construct (rough estimates only with resources fluctuating all the time) or is it too soon to say?

Where do you think you should test the first prototypes?

Construction, small space living and energy self-sufficiency are all interesting topics here in the Yukon. :)

Thank you for providing more details, Hector. :)

Interesting design. Round is a strong shape and the hinged leveling legs would allow stabilizing on varied terrain if I understand their purpose.

What type of wood to you think would be best used in the construction?

Pine and plastic laminates

If beset by flooding, is there a means by which to navigate or steer this 'houseboat' or it is at the whim of the direction of the flow?

If you look at it a bit, you'll see the additional pinions where the legs are ansent. Many different types of attachments can be inserted here, so outriggers are possible. The outriggers can have propulsion accessories. This will be a slow mover.

Do you have any kind of preliminary figures of what such a unit will cost to construct (rough estimates only with resources fluctuating all the time) or is it too soon to say?

A 3 meter boat will likely end up arounf $70000.00 shipped in the US, Mexico or Canada. OPverseas would be more shipping.

Where do you think you should test the first prototypes?

Any reasonable sized body of water. I'll likely build a test flood feature in the dry dock where it will be built.Construction, small space living and energy self-sufficiency are all interesting topics here in the Yukon. :)


I would think the Yukon would love these. Haiti, Japan, New Zealand, New Orleans, etcetera. Like I said, I see jobs, still I was meaning around the planet. It would be easier just to franchise the ideas, provide plans and fixtures to build them in a particular country.

BTW... could you imagine a hospital sized version that resides on Lake Superior? :)

BTW... could you imagine a hospital sized version that resides on Lake Superior? :)

Have you considered that Lake Superior freezes over completely every 20 years or so?

What temperature range are you considering these habitats to be capable of enduring?

What kind of insulation?

Is it a new type of lettuce spinner?

Urmm a donut?

Have you considered that Lake Superior freezes over completely every 20 years or so?

What temperature range are you considering these habitats to be capable of enduring?

What kind of insulation?

Certainly it depends on the design, budget and such, but these can be designed as low depth submersibles. The Inui would love one. The one I want to build for me and my loved ones will have double hulls, The insulation can be a composite, but some areas will have floatation cells that could be scuttled if needs be.

I was unaware of that facet of Lake Superior. Do you know if that coincides with the 22 year solar cycle?

Is it a new type of lettuce spinner?

Nope

Urmm a donut?

Some models may be able to generate a donut shaped field around them... ;)

I was unaware of that facet of Lake Superior. Do you know if that coincides with the 22 year solar cycle?

The freeze over does not seem to be related to the solar cycle.


7 03 2009

Lake Superior last froze over in 2003. It has now, again, frozen over. The frequency of freeze overs has historically been around once every 20 years. Now, in the last decade, we have seen two freeze overs.

http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/global-warming-myths-debunked-great-lakes-freeze-over/


As for Lake Superior, you wouldn’t think it could freeze over, but it happens. Superior is the largest fresh water lake in the world and contains more water than all of the other Great Lakes combined. It’s deepest point is around 1,300 feet. But still Superior freezes over… the last time it happened was last year. Take a look at the high resolution satellite image below and you can see that the lake is more than 90% covered with ice. The image is taken on March 1, 2009. Lakes tend to develop there most significant ice coverage during the month of February.

http://blogs.fox11online.com/2010/01/29/how-often-do-the-great-lakes-freeze/

Cool stuff! 2003 is also the year that a string of steam vents errupted at Yellowstone.

In answer to your one question about the boat design, the legs can easily have floatation pods with variable geometry. A freeze could boost it above, but I think the heat from the structure itself might keep that area from freezing. We take boats in before winter hits because they have no variable geometry to compensate for the pressure of ice constricting their fixed geometry.

Cool stuff! 2003 is also the year that a string of steam vents errupted at Yellowstone.

In answer to your one question about the boat design, the legs can easily have floatation pods with variable geometry. A freeze could boost it above, but I think the heat from the structure itself might keep that area from freezing. We take boats in before winter hits because they have no variable geometry to compensate for the pressure of ice constricting their fixed geometry.

That raises the question of what will be the heat source for the structure?

Some problems posed by ice to a floating restaurant on the Danube River in Belgrade, just yesterday.

http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/world/danube-20120221-1tkqv.html?selectedImage=8

That scene from the Danube is exactly what I was describing. Consider that it's a river freezing also. This is characteristic of the "little ice age."

Nonetheless, look at that dock! It's in shambles. The winter hit Europe hard and off guard. I have relatives over there and it causes concern.

As for the heat source: I don't have all the details worked out for larger structures, but if I can get as far as the renderings depict, wouldn't you think I could just maybe fix the heating systems too? :)

http://www.sciforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4531&stc=1&d=1329861651

And here's that donut someone wanted... :D

That scene from the Danube is exactly what I was describing. Consider that it's a river freezing also. This is characteristic of the "little ice age."

Nonetheless, look at that dock! It's in shambles. The winter hit Europe hard and off guard. I have relatives over there and it causes concern.

As for the heat source: I don't have all the details worked out for larger structures, but if I can get as far as the renderings depict, wouldn't you think I could just maybe fix the heating systems too? :)

That would depend on if you have experience of extremely cold climates with limited daylight hours for several months of the year and just what you consider to be a larger structure.

I have a friend who installs solar electrical systems and I am well aware of their cost, the need for battery maintenance, their limitations and that they are not used for heating.

I have been attempting to discern whether you have indeed designed 'a better mousetrap' and just where it fits into the present and future scheme of considerations.

Cost effective, portable, self-contained accommodation that is tolerant of weather extremes would have an endless application.

I had not gotten around to asking you about the sanitation facilities yet. Even self-contained systems have to be pumped and emptied. Well and septic works for land based applications that are not near to waterways.
On or near the water MUST BE contained and pumped in this jurisdiction.

If my questions are beyond where you have gotten in the design, do not feel obligated to supply answers. I raise these questions from a Yukon perspective and these may not at all be the circumstances you envision your design to be used in. :)

That would depend on if you have experience of extremely cold climates with limited daylight hours for several months of the year and just what you consider to be a larger structure.

I have a friend who installs solar electrical systems and I am well aware of their cost, the need for battery maintenance, their limitations and that they are not used for heating.

I hope to cure that with light...Hope. As of now I am reasonable certain I can incorporate environmental, physical energy, wind and water, with light and heat, thus multi source. That's doable now. The "donut" field, is speculation. If the light amplifier concept is successful beyond concentrating light when the sun is bright, it may make the other sources a mere auxiliary.
I have been attempting to discern whether you have indeed designed 'a better mousetrap' and just where it fits into the present and future scheme of considerations.

Cost effective, portable, self-contained accommodation that is tolerant of weather extremes would have an endless application.

A 30 meter version is a miniature contained farm and power machine. That is in the completed vision.

I had not gotten around to asking you about the sanitation facilities yet. Even self-contained systems have to be pumped and emptied. Well and septic works for land based applications that are not near to waterways.
On or near the water MUST BE contained and pumped in this jurisdiction.

Waste is either processed back to pure water, or digested into fuel. Any ash will have mineral value.

If my questions are beyond where you have gotten in the design, do not feel obligated to supply answers. I raise these questions from a Yukon perspective and these may not at all be the circumstances you envision your design to be used in. :)


The idea is to make this so if you are buried in an avalanche, a snorkel will carve its way to the air. Take a nap. Same if you were covered in volcanic ash, say it were like 5 meters deep or more. Architecture that floats. 0.30 mil aluminum outer skin. Likely composite insulation. Variable geometry to endure freezing.

How long to expect the Yukon to be as you normally expect? Best I can say at the moment is winter hit Alaska pretty hard. The Rockies were hit, as in Denver, pretty bad. We had zip for winter in Indiana. All I can say is I do good work. I'm working on many aspects of the 21st Century life support architecture with the entire planet in mind. If someone gives me a clue about a particular area, say the Congo, I can answer questions I imagine. Will it withstand an attack by hippos? Yes...

One size really should fit all. Hopefully the same design will get the inhabitants by for 50 years and hand it to a new family member. In 50 years, if Yellowstone hasn't gone bananas I'll go work there... :)

One thing I've really left out of the discussion is that these shapes, when moored in their dry dock, would tend to resist tornadoes. They have aerodynamic geometry that would enhance laminar airflow near to the outer shell, but reduce drag. A typical house is nothing but a drag generator, trying to fight against massive flow force.

That scene from the Danube is exactly what I was describing. Consider that it's a river freezing also. This is characteristic of the "little ice age."

Nonetheless, look at that dock! It's in shambles. The winter hit Europe hard and off guard. I have relatives over there and it causes concern.

As for the heat source: I don't have all the details worked out for larger structures, but if I can get as far as the renderings depict, wouldn't you think I could just maybe fix the heating systems too? :)

I've noticed that Europe has had a unusually cold winter while it was warmer in much of the USA. The arctic cold tends to flow downward somewhere (actually it tends to draw in the heat to lessen the steepness of temperature gradients between the warm and cold parts of the globe). So, the net temperature of the northern hemisphere tends to be about the same every winter, only changing gradually over many years.

I've noticed that Europe has had a unusually cold winter while it was warmer in much of the USA. The arctic cold tends to flow downward somewhere (actually it tends to draw in the heat to lessen the steepness of temperature gradients between the warm and cold parts of the globe). So, the net temperature of the northern hemisphere tends to be about the same every winter, only changing gradually over many years.

And that isn't subject to changes?

And that isn't subject to changes?

From what I've seen, if an area in the northern hemisphere has a mild winter, another area has a harsher one. I've never seen it not do that. That is why in Indiana it was mild while Europe was very cold.

From what I've seen, if an area in the northern hemisphere has a mild winter, another area has a harsher one. I've never seen it not do that. That is why in Indiana it was mild while Europe was very cold.

...and the Rocky Mountain areas and Alaska had record snowfalls.

As mentioned in the other related thread about using aluminum shielding, we are being warned by NASA about possible damage to technology.