View Full Version : Foods and other things we eat that make us depressed


wynn
05-19-09, 01:40 AM
I've heard that drinking alcohol makes depressed.

What are the foods and other things we eat that make us depressed?



Thanks.

otheadp
05-19-09, 08:42 AM
Food is the most commonly used anti depressant, apparently. No?

Japarican
05-19-09, 09:12 AM
Food is the most commonly used anti depressant, apparently. No?

hmm...ice cream... :D

Exterminate!!!
05-19-09, 09:23 AM
oatmeal. i just wanna die looking at the stuff

cosmictraveler
05-19-09, 10:06 AM
Cyanide, Formaldehyde and rat poison will depress anyone.:eek:

Mrs.Lucysnow
05-23-09, 02:44 AM
Food is the most commonly used anti depressant, apparently. No?

Chocolate yum yum

takandjive
05-27-09, 11:24 AM
Alcohol is a depressant, yes.

Generally, I don't feel so hot after eating a bunch of any dessert.

wynn
05-27-09, 11:57 AM
Foods with a lot of refined sugar are definitely a depressant - in the sense that at first, they make the blood sugar spike real fast, and then drop very low, quickly. This fast sequence of high blood sugar - low blood sugar makes tired.


Any others?

wise acre
05-27-09, 01:41 PM
I've heard that drinking alcohol makes depressed.

What are the foods and other things we eat that make us depressed?



Thanks.


Sugar!!!!!!!
Simple carbs of all kinds, white flours, white grains.
Coffee, caffeine in general - don't be fooled by the immediate high.
Any food one is allergic to. A good thing can be to get checked for food allergies, and, oddly, we can be very attracted to foods we are allergic too. Candidiasis, which often makes us drawn to foods like sugars and simply carbs in general will make us crave these.

White bread, therefore, and bread products in general.

Restricted diets can lead to depression. A varied diet can help. Like not one vegetable, but many. not one grain, buy many. Better nutrition this way, but I also think bodies get bored. It is like having the same experience over and over which is depressing.

Junk foods.

Preservatives and artificial additives of all kinds are playing russian roulette with our bodies. They disrupt normal functioning.

I think the emotional effects of good pooping and not good pooping are underestimated.

If you are not pooping, or not pooping much - less than 1 time a day - this can add to depression. The body is slowed down and toxins from fermenting food can move into the body.

If you are not pooping much introduce mildly laxative foods, foods high in fiber, greens, veggies and fruits.

Light meals are less likely to contribute to depression.

wise acre
05-27-09, 01:43 PM
oatmeal. i just wanna die looking at the stuffAnd for you then it is a bad food. But in general oatmeal is good for the nervous system. But you should like foods. I think people should think twice about eating food just because it is good for you. Try to find foods that are both generally good for people AND you really like.

CutsieMarie89
05-27-09, 01:49 PM
I get sick whenever I eat too much junk food, but I can't say any food makes me depressed. I don't consider alcohol food, it's more a drug than anything.

wynn
05-27-09, 01:51 PM
And for you then it is a bad food. But in general oatmeal is good for the nervous system.

I have noticed something curious about oatmeal:

If I eat store-bought muesli with oatmeal and dry fruit, I feel depressed and sickly.

If I make my own muesli, with nominally the same ingredients, just that I have bought each of them separately and first mix them when preparing each meal, I feel good, in fact very good.

wise acre
05-27-09, 01:54 PM
I have noticed something curious about oatmeal:

If I eat store-bought muesli with oatmeal and dry fruit, I feel depressed and sickly.

If I make my own muesli, with nominally the same ingredients, just that I have bought each of them separately and first mix them when preparing each meal, I feel good, in fact very good.The lack of care in food production can never be overestimated. Who knows. But very good you found out what you did.

CutsieMarie89
05-27-09, 01:55 PM
oatmeal is too heavy, and looks and smells as good as it tastes. Unless I make it, but then I put so much sugar in it, it really isn't oatmeal anymore. :D

wynn
05-27-09, 02:00 PM
I love oat in its various forms. I have recently discovered whole-grain oat. It can be prepared in the same manner as rice.

The taste might at first need some getting used to; adding cloves and anis brings out its sweet taste. But the way the intestines feel about an hour or two after eating whole-grain oat: heavenly. So nice and warm and smooth!

wynn
05-27-09, 02:06 PM
Candidiasis, which often makes us drawn to foods like sugars and simply carbs in general will make us crave these.

It appears I have this.



White bread, therefore, and bread products in general.

Absolutely. I could eat so much of write bread that my stomach would burst, and I still wouldn't feel satiated. There is something about some foods that make me more and more hungry the more I eat of them.



Preservatives and artificial additives of all kinds are playing russian roulette with our bodies. They disrupt normal functioning.

As I have become painfully aware of.
I just hate it that I am so susceptible to these things. I mean, most people can live and function quite well, eating food that would make me sick.



I think the emotional effects of good pooping and not good pooping are underestimated.

Absolutely.



Light meals are less likely to contribute to depression.

I have also noticed it helps to eat the largest meal in the morning, as the first meal of the day.
I am getting used to eating my legumes and grains first thing in the morning. It appears to have a good effect on the blood sugar.

Carcano
05-27-09, 02:38 PM
Animal products...with the exception of seafood.

And any plant matter with constipating qualities.

wise acre
05-27-09, 04:51 PM
It appears I have this.There are a good number of ways to get back a good internal flora. There are also tests so you can be certain if you do have it.


As I have become painfully aware of.
I just hate it that I am so susceptible to these things. I mean, most people can live and function quite well, eating food that would make me sick.Yes, as someone who is sensitive to a lot of things, I know this feeling well. My body can tolerate quite a bit in relation to the environment - heat, cold, intense exercise, exposure - but once things move into my lungs or GI tract....

And caffeine....forgetaboutit.



I have also noticed it helps to eat the largest meal in the morning, as the first meal of the day.
I am getting used to eating my legumes and grains first thing in the morning. It appears to have a good effect on the blood sugar. I've heard this said, but I have trouble with a big morning meal, or avoiding a larger late one, in any case.

I find a solid breakfast keeps me calmer in relation to food the rest of the day.

wise acre
05-27-09, 04:51 PM
I love oat in its various forms. I have recently discovered whole-grain oat. It can be prepared in the same manner as rice.

The taste might at first need some getting used to; adding cloves and anis brings out its sweet taste. But the way the intestines feel about an hour or two after eating whole-grain oat: heavenly. So nice and warm and smooth!I used rye instead of oat for a long time. It is meatier and darker and richer somehow.

wynn
05-28-09, 01:55 AM
I used rye instead of oat for a long time. It is meatier and darker and richer somehow.

I've been looking for rye - but it isn't available here in wholegrain in regular grocery stores. At the 'health-food stores', the prices they demand are exorbitant. :bugeye:

EmeraldAxe
05-31-09, 09:30 PM
You find yourself in an alkalotic (sp) state after a meal, additionally there exists a parasympathetic response and shunting of blood to the GI tract. All of these things together contribute to a fatigue, perhaps not depression. There are a number of foods which alter brain chemistry and mimic depression.

wynn
06-01-09, 03:58 AM
There are a number of foods which alter brain chemistry and mimic depression.

Tell us more!

EmeraldAxe
06-03-09, 11:20 AM
Tell us more!


It's not entirely accurate to say that certain foods can directly cause changes in the neurochemistry. I didn't mean to imply this. For example, it's not so simple to say, if you eat sprouts, you will be depressed six hours later!

It's more accurate to say that certain diets can lead to depression (in the long run). If your diet is missing certain nutrients (precursors to various neurotransmitters), you can develop depression (other symptoms would emerge as well). Obesity and depression go hand in hand (this does not mean obesity directly causes depression; the likely story is that the two feed off of each other and contribute to hormonal imbalances in a complicated positive feedback between the hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal axis, negative self image promoted by an obese body, and the role of serotonin in both depression and appetite).

To understand depression fully, it helps to understand neurotransmitters, how the body creates neurotransmitters, and then how the body/brain regulate these chemicals (homeostasis).

I feel the evidence in the next few years will show a more clear link between obesity and depression (ie it will be more fair to say obesity is a factor disposing someone to depression), but as I said in my previous post, essentially overeating causes depression-like symptoms. These reasons in the short term have to do with the actual work done to process the foods and less with brain chemistry.

The best thing you can do to avoid depression in terms of nutrition is eat a balanced diet. Do not overeat (easier said than done in America).
And exercise (exercising four times per week for 30-60 minutes is tantamount to taking half a dose of anti-depressants). Evidence I've seen actually makes a stronger case to exercise to avoid depression compared to eating. Strive to do both but changing diets is difficult (takes months), exercising you could do right now.

http://www.indianjpsychiatry.org/article.asp?issn=0019-5545;year=2008;volume=50;issue=2;spage=77;epage=82 ;aulast=Sathyanarayana

wynn
06-03-09, 12:30 PM
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http://www.indianjpsychiatry.org/article.asp?issn=0019-5545;year=2008;volume=50;issue=2;spage=77;epage=82 ;aulast=Sathyanarayana

Thank you, this is interesting!