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ISDAMan
05-13-00, 12:22 AM
Dear God, I’d like to thank you for bringing your children together in the study of your Word which is You! You are a God that looks after your children in Mercy and Love. It is only because of you that we can have Joy this day. So, with all my heart, I would like to read a part of Psalms 16 back to you: <FONT COLOR=”BLUE”>The LORD is the portion of mine inheritance and of my cup: thou maintainest my lot. The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places; yea, I have a goodly heritage. I will bless the LORD, who hath given me counsel: my reins also instruct me in the night seasons. I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.</FONT> I thank You God,… and I Love You!!! AMEN!

It’s good to be here with you in faithful service to God. Like I said, this may not be as rigid a structure as it was in the study of Romans. We’ll just take it as it goes. I just hope to get more in depth and be of greater use to you all. Please, let me know if there are concepts here that are too hard to understand or are confusing.
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1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
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(The New Living Translation)
1 These are the words of the Teacher, King David's son, who ruled in Jerusalem.
2 "Everything is meaningless," says the Teacher, "utterly meaningless!"
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What do you see being said here? Is this book opening in depression as some would say? Is this the start of an, “It don’t mean nothn’”, type of attitude? I think not! The very first idea the writer (most likely Solomon) wants us to get use to is that, in comparison to God, neither we, nor any part of creation, measures up. We, and everything He has created, do reflect His Glory. Never the less, you need to be aware of the place. It’s all an image not meant to last in this form. We know that there will come a new Heaven and a new Earth. We know that our bodies of flesh do not last. It should be of no shock to find the words, “all is vanity”, in the Bible. Nothing of this world will last. Only God’s Word will survive. So, what we see here is the mark of perspective. The writer obviously knew well that God is far greater that all Creation. This is the right outlook and it is the best perspective to have in life. Do your actions reflect an awareness of this fact? Do you realize that God is greater in times of stress and need? This study is really going to challenge you to examine exactly what you’re living for!

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3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
8 All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
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(The New Living Translation)
3 What do people get for all their hard work?
4 Generations come and go, but nothing really changes.
5 The sun rises and sets and hurries around to rise again.
6 The wind blows south and north, here and there, twisting back and forth, getting nowhere.
7 The rivers run into the sea, but the sea is never full. Then the water returns again to the rivers and flows again to the sea.
8 Everything is so weary and tiresome! No matter how much we see, we are never satisfied. No matter how much we hear, we are not content.
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Would the systems of the world stop if you had never been born? Would it really have an effect that would completely alter the function of the processes of God’s creation if you were never born? That right! The answer is NO! Then, exactly why is it that when we don’t get our way, we rage and throw tantrum? What makes us think that we have a right to try and focus all the worlds attention on us? What about when we have a right to be angry? What do we gain by acting out, acquiring thing, living for pleasure and money, and just plain doing the things that we do? With all that we do, what place does it have in the eternal? What’s the real effect of all that we do? With all of the power that we think we have, how much of God’s creation have we really been able to subdue?

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9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
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(The New Living Translation)
9 History merely repeats itself. It has all been done before. Nothing under the sun is truly new.
10 What can you point to that is new? How do you know it didn't already exist long ago?
11 We don't remember what happened in those former times. And in future generations, no one will remember what we are doing now.
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It’s more perspective. With all that we think that we’ve done, we’ve done nothing. We mistake the freedom that God gives us to use and manipulate His creation for power. Nothing that we have done has not already been available in God’s design of creation. Remember this from Job:

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Chapter 38

1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,
11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?
12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; andcaused the dayspring to know his place;
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.
16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?
30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?
35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?
36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?
37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven,
38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?
39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,
40 When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?
41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

Chapter 39

1 Knowest thou the time when the wild goats of the rock bring forth? or canst thou mark when the hinds do calve?
2 Canst thou number the months that they fulfil? or knowest thou the time when they bring forth?
3 They bow themselves, they bring forth their young ones, they cast out their sorrows.
4 Their young ones are in good liking, they grow up with corn; they go forth, and return not unto them.
5 Who hath sent out the wild ass free? or who hath loosed the bands of the wild ass?
6 Whose house I have made the wilderness, and the barren land his dwellings.
7 He scorneth the multitude of the city, neither regardeth he the crying of the driver.
8 The range of the mountains is his pasture, and he searcheth after every green thing.
9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
11 Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?
12 Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?
13 Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?
14 Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust,
15 And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them.
16 She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not hers: her labour is in vain without fear;
17 Because God hath deprived her of wisdom, neither hath he imparted to her understanding.
18 What time she lifteth up herself on high, she scorneth the horse and his rider.
19 Hast thou given the horse strength? hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?
20 Canst thou make him afraid as a grasshopper? the glory of his nostrils is terrible.
21 He paweth in the valley, and rejoiceth in his strength: he goeth on to meet the armed men.
22 He mocketh at fear, and is not affrighted; neither turneth he back from the sword.
23 The quiver rattleth against him, the glittering spear and the shield.
24 He swalloweth the ground with fierceness and rage: neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.
25 He saith among the trumpets, Ha, ha; and he smelleth the battle afar off, the thunder of the captains, and the shouting.
26 Doth the hawk fly by thy wisdom, and stretch her wings toward the south?
27 Doth the eagle mount up at thy command, and make her nest on high?
28 She dwelleth and abideth on the rock, upon the crag of the rock, and the strong place.
29 From thence she seeketh the prey, and her eyes behold afar off.
30 Her young ones also suck up blood: and where the slain are, there is she.

Chapter 40

1 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said,
2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
3 Then Job answered the LORD, and said,
4 Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.
5 Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
6 Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
7 Gird up thy loins now like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?
9 Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?
10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.
11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.
12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.
13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

Chapter 41

1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?
7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?
8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.
9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?
14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth areterrible round about.
15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes arelike the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

Chapter 42

1 Then Job answered the LORD, and said,
2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
3 Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
4 Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.
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This conversation between God and Job is AMAZING!!!!! This is God telling Job the same basic stuff. Job, in turn, realizes, by way of the perspective God has given, that he doesn’t even come close to measuring up. We need to realize that when we finally come to grips with this fact that’s when God can help us. Far too often, we, as Christians, are lost in despair and see no way out. Let me tell you. The best way out is to realize that you can’t get out. You have to call for, wait on, and relay upon help. People on the roof of a burning building can very well escape the raging flames without assistance. All they have to do is jump. Of course, the results of that are not usually the best. It’s typically better to wait for a rescue. Does knowing that help is on the way cool the flames? Not one bit, it doesn’t. Still, you are not without hope. Remember that prayer back in the first paragraph of this FNS. Remember that out God has the power over all creation and that He has made promises to us and Christ. We are not lost! He is in control and He knows what He is doing! Allow Him, in your life, to take the driver’s seat and be ready to enjoy the trip. It’s all His. There’s nothing new to Him. Nothing’s going to surprise Him. God’s never going to tell you that He just can’t handle what you’ve got going on. Trust Him to be the God that He is! This book isn’t too hard to understand. It says what’s said all throughout the Bible. Only, in this case, it’s all compressed into one book. So, it just looks more powerful and hard to grasp.

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12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.
16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
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12 I, the Teacher, was king of Israel, and I lived in Jerusalem.
13 I devoted myself to search for understanding and to explore by wisdom everything being done in the world. I soon discovered that God has dealt a tragic existence to the human race.
14 Everything under the sun is meaningless, like chasing the wind.
15 What is wrong cannot be righted. What is missing cannot be recovered.
16 I said to myself, "Look, I am wiser than any of the kings who ruled in Jerusalem before me. I have greater wisdom and knowledge than any of them."
17 So I worked hard to distinguish wisdom from foolishness. But now I realize that even this was like chasing the wind.
18 For the greater my wisdom, the greater my grief. To increase knowledge only increases sorrow.
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Did you notice verse 18? There is a limit to man. You can either rely upon God to help you deal with it or you can battle it day and night. Fight all you want. No one ever wins! Only God has control over His Creation. Whatever you strive for that is not building in eternity, is going to eventually pass away. You and all that you’ve done will be forgotten. No amount of Human preservation will find you remembered for long. Therefor, I ask you. What is your motivation for living? What’s your Goal at the end of the day? Let me give you a clue as to what it should be? It should be set by God well in advance of the day you live it and it should be toward what is eternal. That doesn’t leave much. Considering that God’s Word is all that will last of this World, that’s where you need to make your investments and find your direction. All else is vanity. It is only when you realize the limits of your life that you can truly live, because, at that point, you must choose to rely upon God, the master of all creation, for your every want and need.

Peace Be To You Brothers And Sisters,
ISDAMan

[This message has been edited by ISDAMan (edited May 12, 2000).]

frank t
05-16-00, 01:39 AM
ISDAMan: I think that we need to remember that without God, we can do NOTHING. So, all Is vanity, or in another translation, bad breath. I too, do not see this book as a book of negatives, but of the realization of the need for God.(See first sentence.) You are doing a good job. Keep it up Frank T.

ISDAMan
05-16-00, 02:17 AM
frank t,

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! If feels better than I can tell you to know that there are those that I have been of use to in service to our Lord. Also, your point was well made!

God Bless You Brother,
ISDAman

Searcher
06-03-00, 09:59 PM
ISDAMan,

You know me - I have a different translation for everything! And of course, I have a different translation for Ecclesiastes 1:4-11, as well. First it starts talking about how everything is part of a circuit, that is, there is sort of a "circular" pattern to all things, such as the planetary motions, generations of man, the flow of the rivers, etc. Then, in verses 9-11 it seems to be hinting that time itself is circular! Everything that has ever been done before will be done again, and everything that will be done in the future is already in the past, yet there is no remembrance of past or future things. Very mysterious in this light, don't you think? But then, maybe that's just the way I see things...

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ISDAMan
06-05-00, 12:40 AM
Searcher,

Yes, you do have your own unique edge to things. It’s good to chat with you again. I would not say that there has been any special description of time given here. It is more a description of our interaction. I’ll give you an example. There are 26 letters in the English alphabet. If I took two natives a piece (with no knowledge of any other language), form 10 different remote islands, and gave them a set of alphabet blocks with instructions to create as many combinations as they could, they would most definitely create some of the same combinations. None of them would have to have any knowledge of the language or knowledge of what the others were doing. There’re only so many combinations that we can come up. With all the variety that we have in life, there’s still a limit to the number of combinations. Let’s take propulsion for instance. We think we came up with the propeller. Wrong! God did. He’s had seeds using them for as long as He’s had trees. We think we designed the jet engine. Wrong! God did that too. He’s had sea creatures equipped with that too. Now, what about internal combustion? Well, we know that the planet as a whole uses that. There’s nothing new under the sun. Just because there is a variety in the design of types, it doesn’t mean we’ve actually created things. These things we do are only possible because God created a matrix wherein these things could be accomplished by us. No, the specific design or type may not have existed in the past. Time is not running around in circles. It’s just that the opportunity for doing anything has and will always exist so long as there is time. Man can create no new opportunities in God’s universe. He can only use what God has given. Neither are we trapped in an endless loop. The past is forgotten because man is too bust in the present looking toward the future.

The one thing that I can agree with you on is that this book, as a whole, shows that there is a “circular” pattern of sorts in that within God’s creation, one thing always works towards another. There is no process in nature that is self-serving.

ISDAMan