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Andrew111
07-17-02, 08:57 AM
Is the anti Christ on the earth now or is he the man who will lead us into One World Order or is he the man who hides at present behind those who we trust and believe in, is there a battle between good and evil is it religion or politics that lead our destiny or do we decide our own destiny or is there some one watching over us. Time is running out for these questions are to be answered soon I do not wish to frighten any one about what could happen, but maybe it’s the only way to get people to wake up and see what’s happening in the world today. You don’t have to be a church going person to understand that things are changing and we all need to decide which side we are on soon. I was never a church person but I do believe that there is someone watching over us you can believe in your own way without having to go to church, just believe in what’s good and never let your self be lead away from that path. Its never to late, these things as before I have no reason for saying I just need the message to go out to those that want to listen to me.

Deepuz
07-17-02, 09:03 AM
Andrew111, your 'message', again, makes no sense to me.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 09:51 AM
Im not well educated and i live in england and if you want to mock me then do but at least you are reading what i have to say and thats a start and i am sorry if my messages are mixed up its because i say what i feel and i do see things that i dont want to see its only just started recently and as i keep saying i am not a church person i just have somthing to let you know and if this is a way of doing so good.

It just is the way i see it.

Adam
07-17-02, 10:13 AM
This is not intended as being mean, just as help. Seperate your sentences with "." periods, like this. Make each individual thought or stream of words comprising a thought a separate sentence, beginning with a capital letter and ending with a period. This will make it MUCH easier for us to read and understand.

wet1
07-17-02, 10:13 AM
Andrew111, why do you believe that time is running out? Give us something to go on here.

By the "antichrist" part of the post I am going to guess that you are prescribing to Christainy. (correct me if I am wrong) If that is so then probably this post needs to be in religion.

Please try to give us some info on why you believe this and what info you might have to support this.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 10:31 AM
Perhaps it should be in Religion but there not the ones i need to talk to. its not the devil or god im talking about but one man who will lead us into death by selling us out for greed and lust. Think about Hitler and the way he got his people to follow him. There is a new power developing across the world who Know more than they are leting us know this includes all the worlds poor and rich.
They will i am sure soon let them selfs known and try to lead us as one world.

wet1
07-17-02, 10:42 AM
Ok, then who is this "one man" you refer to. (please do not give a circular arguement of "The Antichrist") Either be a bit more specific or give an explicit description. Your description could well apply to a bank in the form that it has been given.

One of the reasons that we adhere to posting within the proper forums is so that it will reach those that are interested. Do not be fooled by the title of "Religion" into thinking only those that post there are theists.

Banshee
07-17-02, 11:00 AM
Andrew, there is a thread about the "anti-christ", in Pseudo Science. Do you wish to go there with your messages. It is better I think. 'Cause there are people responding to it. Not the way you want it perhaps, there are people posting about the subject.

I think you will get more responses there. Did you check your PM's?

Andrew111
07-17-02, 11:19 AM
As economys all over the world are shrinking and europe has a new currency the euro, and is now maching the same value as the dollar this will fast slow the american econamy even more and America will not have the same power as it has had in the past and will be forced into opening its borders of trade with europe which will mean that some one in Europe will decide what you will eat and what you will be paid in America

i feel foolish saying this as i cant see any American standing for this and i hope im wrong.

So as you see i can not be persific about who will be the man in power but i can tell you that he has already been born. And he is awair of what he is to do.

Watch you own economy as more and more liars and cheats are brought forward.

Perhaps one of the bigest companys in the world be next.

wet1
07-17-02, 11:24 AM
I am not sure that the current downturn in the ecomony of the US could be attributed to what you state. I am not an ecomonist, so I won't pretend to know secret info that no one else knows. I don't. The ecomony of the US does this and frequently. So do all the other ecomonies. It has been stated that when the US ecomony gets the sniffles, the world ecomonies catch a cold.

Just a thought...

Banshee
07-17-02, 11:31 AM
Maybe there is more to the US economy than you expect. How can you say this without knowing who are pulling the strings in the background and who stay "invisible" to the public of the US. Don't be so ignorant.

The US desperatly seeks to have and hold control. I, too, have heard that it is measly with the US economy. It cannot be all nonsense. Perhaps a lot more is going on than the US government wants the public to know. Then there are the ones who state that it is normal that the economy does this in the US. Mmmm, maybe, maybe not. I think Andrew has a point here. The Euro, indeed, is worth as much, if it is not even more, than the US dollar at the moment.

Just another thought...

Deepuz
07-17-02, 11:32 AM
I think that he will be chosen for his extraordinary wisdom, and will deceive us all, until it is too late, so I am looking deep inside myself so that I may know what to do.

Banshee
07-17-02, 11:39 AM
Good luck...;)

Xev
07-17-02, 11:42 AM
I'm an antichrist.

http://www.sciforums.com/t9053/s/thread.html

Avatar
07-17-02, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Andrew111
As economys all over the world are shrinking and europe has a new currency the euro, and is now maching the same value as the dollar this will fast slow the american econamy even more and America will not have the same power as it has had in the past and will be forced into opening its borders of trade with europe which will mean that some one in Europe will decide what you will eat and what you will be paid in America

YES- I am from Europe.
Finally we will have a chance for revenge.
Until now, usa was the one who dictated the orders,
now our time has come.

Viva l'Democracy!
Long live the free nations of Europe!
We will be victorious!

Andrew111
07-17-02, 11:54 AM
if you are a antichrist i pitty you and i shed a tear for all the people that listen to you because you are a fool. and fools who think there cleaver fall. are you a fallen angle ? i think not.

Avatar
07-17-02, 11:59 AM
we have all sorts of beings here....
I am a fallen angel

NightFall
07-17-02, 12:00 PM
of course the economy is going down. its dosn't go up forever.. and it is right on schedule. even without 9/11 and everything else that has people all worked up, we would still be right where we are today. Now, i dont know much about europe over there, but i do know that right now is americas "down" time, and in 2004 verything will be back to 'normal'. just follow the pattern.

as for the one world nation and the 'antichrits'.. -laughs- maybe if we put bill clinton back in office. :rolleyes:

wet1
07-17-02, 12:07 PM
...maybe if we put bill clinton back in office.

Lol's. Wonder what he charges for sperm bank deposits? I don't think he is going to corner the market with that one...

Andrew111
07-17-02, 12:16 PM
Can you see why i talk in riddles if you realy want to hear what im saying try to under stand that i mean no harm to you as a person or want you to follow me to the word as i do not make phrophacies i just see things happening.

wet1
07-17-02, 12:26 PM
Sorry Andrew111, got on a bit of a side track there.

Instead of talking in riddles just come out and say whatever it is you have to say. The worse that is going to happen is someone pokes fun at you. Then again, you never know, maybe someone wants to hear what you have to say...

Avatar
07-17-02, 12:27 PM
why should I care for your worries about the USA economy. If what you say is true, and Europe is going to dominate this century- THANX FOR THE GREAT NEWS

Andrew111
07-17-02, 01:15 PM
If you were able to fly to distant worlds and see what life has created, and then be returned to earth you would be ashamed of what we have done to the place we live and the people that we live with no man has the right to say we have done good, there will come a time when we all will ask when are we going to change.
You probably think I am as mad as a hatter by know but I feel something inside of me has changed for the good and I hope that some of you are also feeling the power of change. I do want to say more but its hard for me to tell what I feel inside of me and explain why or how I feel like this. Why don’t you all, who have a hidden agenda be more open and talk to me.

Avatar
07-17-02, 01:24 PM
I feel something inside of me has changed for the good I'm glad that is so, and if you say that it is going to be better for all of us. good news.

Banshee
07-17-02, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Andrew111
I feel something inside of me has changed for the good and I hope that some of you are also feeling the power of change.

There you go.

However, I think it's easier for the people to not change and leave it as it is. Why should they change? While everybody is so happily enjoying the numbness and comfort of the ongoing power?

Most people who are posting here, do not want to see that the ongoing power nowadays is making changes for the worse of mankind, taking down all other life at the same time.



Originally posted by Andrew111, too
Why don’t you all, who have a hidden agenda be more open and talk to me.

Yes! Come on people. Feel the winds of change and don't ignore it...

(Q)
07-17-02, 01:26 PM
andrew

Why don’t you all, who have a hidden agenda be more open and talk to me.

First of all, you're not making much sense. Secondly, we ARE responding to you. I've asked you several questions and you only responded to one, sort of. It is you who is trolling and are carrying on a monologue of nonsense. Don't accuse us for having a hidden agenda.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 01:36 PM
guilt is terable thing to live with we all have guilt of somthing which we are ashamed of we all have done somthing in our lives that we will never be free of .

fadingCaptain
07-17-02, 01:51 PM
Andrew,
You are talking crap. Everything I have seen you post is something vague and sometimes mildy offensive. You have so far said a) bad things are gonna happen, b) change is good and c) everyone has guilt. Not exactly mind-blowing.

Write something concrete and relatable or ask some thought provoking questions. Otherwise, you are only adding nonsense and trash to the forums.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 01:58 PM
if you think its crap then to you its crap dont read it (But you have) havent you so i have done what i set out to do.

Avatar
07-17-02, 02:03 PM
suspicious...your statement is

wonder I...if a troll you is

Banshee
07-17-02, 02:17 PM
Oh come on people.

Isn't the word troll used a little to easy and often here on the boards lately?

If something is not comprehendable for you, it is crap? And that is coming from the open minded, scientific educated and other highly sofisticated people here?

My goodness, go have a look at Xev's happily submitted definition of trolling, somewhere in religion. Thread name: Atheistic Trolls.

Enjoy and have a little more patience with the different opinions and talk of new members, who might be doing their first Forum visit in their life. Only to find there is no more than those "replies", which follow one another without someone who dares to say he/she sees/feels it the same way Andrew does.

What does this say about the behaviour and display of certain members? That they, indeed, have hidden agenda's and act like they are true.

Mind you, this is a post in general and not aimed at anyone in specific...

(Q)
07-17-02, 02:18 PM
Andrew

Confirmed. You're a troll. Goodbye. :)

Cris
07-17-02, 02:19 PM
Andrew,

Welcome to sciforums.

Considering the whole of history this is now the most enlightened time in which to live. It is also the safest, healthiest, and a time when more people experience a higher quality of life never before experienced.

The world has now one global economy, and where changes in one country can have massive effects on other countries. The increasing number of global companies, where some have revenues greater than some of the smaller countries, means that the ability of any single country leader to affect the world is becoming more limited. This is good since world leader are politically motivated rather than motivated by what is right. The spread of popular democracies is a real problem since decisions are being made based on popular desires of a largely ignorant and uninformed majority, rather than choosing based on long terms plans and intelligence.

While some may see the USA as world leaders, most of Europe see the USA as somewhat unsophisticated and naïve. The USA merely has raw wealth but acts more like a spoilt child. The current US president reflects this attitude quite nicely.

But economies grow in cycles, with highs and lows, but the overall trend is that the overall effect is upward. As more raw resources are mined, consumed, and recycled, the net effect is a gradual increase in world wealth. So yes the economy can forever increase until all the resources on the planet are exhausted by which time we will need to move on to other planets so we can continue to grow.

Primitive mythologies like Christianity and ignorant notions like an antichrist are steadily losing power and are being replaced by the results and knowledge of science and technology. These increase our knowledge base and push ignorance and superstitions to one side. It is not the fantasies of ancient superstitions you should fear but how advanced technology can be controlled. To understand this you must have a clear view of history and see how the changes in the past 200 years represent a rate of change that exceeds the many thousands of years that preceded that. This unprecedented rate of change is difficult to perceive and does require an ability to see the very big picture.

Those who are watching these rapidly growing technology trends see an inevitable outcome and there are now a number of organizations that are correspondingly growing who plan to take advantage of these massive changes. The following link describes a conversation about the very likely near term (next 30 years) future and the expected inevitable outcome. If you have not met these ideas before then you might have a problem comprehending the extent of the problem.

http://members.aol.com/salaned/writings/survive.htm

If you only had a vague notion of changes to come then here is some meat to your concerns.

Heaven or Hell isn't the corect question since these notions are irrelevant, the question is Evolve Now or Die.

Have fun
Cris

Avatar
07-17-02, 02:21 PM
Banshee, I was just refering to the phrase
i have done what i set out to do. as to be suspicious...I didn't say he was a troll, I am just unsure about his objectives.



Evolve Now or Die.
exactly what I have been saying at my evolution thread at relig forum...it seems that we share the same ideas:cool:

(Q)
07-17-02, 02:23 PM
Banshee

Isn't the word troll used a little to easy and often here on the boards lately?
If something is not comprehendable for you, it is crap?

Correction, if something is incomprehensible, it is crap. Not only is Andrew posting nonsensical drivel, and I won't even mention his lack of syntax, he is refusing to respond to direct questions. He is therefore a troll, plain and simple.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 02:24 PM
no im no troll. Let no one point you away from your own goals and you must decide . You must make your own mind up.

Banshee
07-17-02, 02:29 PM
(Q),

Maybe Andrew is just having a little trouble to put it in the right words. You know very well that not everybody is as good in putting his/her thoughts down into the right words as you seem to be.

A little patience is in it's place here. Were he a troll, than the whole boards would be full of it.

Anyways, I'd like to see what he has to say on Cris's post...

(Avatar, :) it was meant in general, not specific at you. :) )

wet1
07-17-02, 03:33 PM
Well said, Cris...

Adam
07-17-02, 03:43 PM
Skepticism is necessary. However, sometimes a few people here remind me of a character from the movie of Starship Troopers, the horrible little federal scientist who dismissed the idea of a "brain bug".

Andrew111
07-17-02, 04:06 PM
Cris

Did we really evolved from apes if so why are apes still apes man has been here for millions of years and perhaps we once were able to travel to the stars a million years ago or perhaps we came from the stars. But some thing could of happened to us as a humans and we over evolved and forgot what we had learnt from the beginning of time. When man first walked on this earth and needed to perhaps he needed to start again but much slower than before. Man has no meaning if all were going to do is destroy our home for money .We can still evolve to new worlds. Perhaps that in our minds is a self preservation switch which in some way is there to restricted us from over evolving perhaps that’s why many people think that we need to change the way that we are living and start to take note of the warnings that have been presented to us over the last 2000 years. Without religion would there be laws that now control our behaviour and life would be as wild as cave man times and we would all still be apes? . There must have been something that made us different from the rest of the animals on this earth I don’t know what it was but its still here and makes us go forward to a new begging but we must not allow one man the power over us all like a farmer choosing which lambs will die and which will live we have the mental power to change or future if we want to .As I said from the start life wants us to embrace new technology the watchers are there.

Perhaps the watchers are angles and have been given a task to look out for us?

There are many stories of winged beings looking after some one in peril or at the moment of death

Should I mention Planet X

Banshee is right I do have a difficulty writing what I am trying to say. I am very dyslectic

Adam
07-17-02, 04:10 PM
Adam dons his silly black ninja outfit, and hides in the shadows, awaiting his opportunity...

"HAH!" Adam strikes, sword slicing cleanly through Andrew111!

Ninja Adam leaves a copy of a biology textbook on the steaming corpse as he slides back into the shadows...

Adam
07-17-02, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Andrew111

Did we really evolved from apes if so why are apes still apes
We did NOT evolve from the apes we see today. Rather, we had a common ancestor. Very different ideas.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 04:26 PM
Which common anseter a ape like creature were are they now

doyou feel that you are decended from a ape like creature WHY

wet1
07-17-02, 04:33 PM
doyou feel that you are decended from a ape like creature WHY

Archeological digs from Africa indicate that our ancestors most likely had a common link with the ape. At present no true link has been verified to 100%. Likeyhood is though, that it is there. Cranial structure, bone similarities, and general build indicate that it is the most similar of all that we know existed.

Andrew111
07-17-02, 04:50 PM
is this because some man tells you this is what you came from or should we just say that God put us hear wether God is a little green alien or realy dose exsits are you willing to put humanity on the line for the sake of one word God. What would you do if he dose come back.

Banshee
07-17-02, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by wet1
Likeyhood is though, that it is there.

Exactly what you state mate. Likelyhood is the key word here.

I do not go for the word god or little green alien either Andrew. It seems much more complex to me.

Anyways...I'll be back...:p

wet1
07-17-02, 05:41 PM
Sorry, Andrew111, I don't put much faith in LGM. Never seen one but once and I was too drunk to shake his hand...

Andrew111
07-17-02, 06:04 PM
When you sleep do you leave your body and travel across the galixy or are you earth bound with chains that hold you down. while you sleep do you let your mind be free of all earthly holdings
do you feel that there is somone else in the room do you sleep facing a wall do you have a light on all night . Turn every thing off take the batery out of your clock so that you hear nothing turn your mirror facing against the wall remove any speakers or any thing that will create a magnetic field close your door and go to sleep so the only thing you will hear is you own hart beat then you will sleep and dream and reamber. when you wake write it down what ever it was you dremt about and then we can talk tomorro about this

Cris
07-17-02, 10:32 PM
Andrew,


Did we really evolved from apes if so why are apes still apes man has been here for millions of years and perhaps we once were able to travel to the stars a million years ago or perhaps we came from the stars.You need to stop following baseless speculative fantasies and learn some science.

Take a look at this website and learn something about the facts of evolution and the theories that help explain how evolution operates.

http://www.talkorigins.org/

Here is direct link that deals with the ape question.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/species.html


Without religion would there be laws that now control our behaviour and life would be as wild as cave man times and we would all still be apes? Without religion we could probably have adopted rational thinking, which would have advanced our progress by thousands of years. The reliance on superstitions has virtually kept us in the caves and it is only since modern science has been developed that we are finally discovering something about our environment and the universe. Also bear in mind the tyrannical atrocities committed by Christianity and how it persecuted anyone who dared question its authority and how it murdered/executed and discouraged would be scientists. The crimes of religion, and in particular xtianity and their impact is beyond count.


There must have been something that made us different from the rest of the animals on this earth I don’t know what it was but its still here…Yes, it is called evolution and specifically it was the development of a more advanced brain. Other than that we are effectively identical to all other life on the planet.

The rest of your post and your others tend to include references that look indistinguishable from paranoid delusions.

I do have a few things you should note –

Are you aware that there is an invisible and immaterial crystalline dodecahedron hovering 2 feet from your face at all times? It has the ability to monitor all your activities and your thoughts and relay them to planet guardians like myself.

You should also be aware than in your past 17 lives I have been your executioner. Please don’t commit any nasty crimes again.

Feel free to reveal your imaginative fantasies but beware that without any supporting evidence they remain just fantasies.

Have fun.
Cris

Andrew111
07-18-02, 04:03 AM
Cris

Why is it that when a different view, that no one is forcing upon you dose not conform to what you believe in , you turn on your defences and lash out at any answer that you can find I don’t care if science says that we are going to evolve and we will all live happily ever after it means that if that’s what you want to believe then believe. I am not calling you paranoid or any thing else its for you to choose no one can make you do any thing that you don’t want to do or believe what you want to believe in I am so sorry that I have upset you in any way but then you must know this because you know me.?

All I am doing is giving a different point of view you don’t have to agree with me If you had something to say that interested me I would read or listen to what ever it was but not judge you for what you are saying.

I’m not as clever as you because you have all the answers and I don’t

Cris
07-18-02, 01:51 PM
Andrew,


I’m not as clever as you because you have all the answers and I don’t.LOL, Oh I wish I did.


Why is it that when a different view, that no one is forcing upon you dose not conform to what you believe in , you turn on your defences and lash out at any answer that you can find.Mainly because this is a debating forum and not a place for making sermons. Note that I have provided you with my views in response to yours. But I have also pointed out an error you have made and shown you how to correct that. I am not lashing out or being defensive, these are simply strong opposing views to yours.

If my views seem harsh or very different to yours then maybe that is because you have not considered these alternative ideas before. In which case these new views might make you think.


I don’t care if science says that we are going to evolve and we will all live happily ever after it means that if that’s what you want to believe then believe.But there is a difference in our approaches that I was hoping you might spot. I do try to back up my views with supporting evidence or show reasons for my views. Contrast that with your approach of simply stating assertions with no reasoning behind them. You will make your ideas more credible if you support them with some reasoning.

If you are here because you want to exchange ideas then be prepared to support your own ideas and be prepared to hear alternatives, perhaps some might not be what you want to hear. If you are here just to preach then you will be quickly ignored.


I am not calling you paranoid or any thing else..Well thank you, but I haven’t called you paranoid either. However, your statements are bordering on paranoia.

Don’t worry about upsetting me; you would have to do a lot more to achieve that. Please don’t mistake a strong opposing view as anger or being upset.


All I am doing is giving a different point of view you don’t have to agree with me. If you had something to say that interested me I would read or listen to what ever it was but not judge you for what you are saying.Again this is a debate forum. If you are factually wrong then do you not want to be told you have made an error?

Cris

unchained
09-04-02, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Avatar
YES- I am from Europe.
Finally we will have a chance for revenge.
Until now, usa was the one who dictated the orders,
now our time has come.

Viva l'Democracy!
Long live the free nations of Europe!
We will be victorious!

It is radical fools like you that shall be the end of us all! If you want an enemy, look toward yourself. It seems your the only one willing to listen to those ignorance opinions of yours. See the truth, the United States would rather not put its foot in the affairs of others. However, the pressures of keeping liberty alive and the voices of others has transformed US foriegn relations into a nightmare of epic proportions! The US is now expected to keep the peace, help end religious oppression, and so forth or be labeled an uncarring society of freedom loving heretics. This wouldn't be true for many other nations.

The US is the last superpower, should they just sit and do nothing when the world is a hotbed of both war and hate. Disagree with me if you must; but, remember that the world is a volitial environment and as soon as the US goes down, it will be one less nation that can stand upright and strong against the forces of "evil". Remember, "evil" can never be defeated, only oppressed and held in suspension. "Good" will never win, neither will "evil". If you hate the US, well so be it. But remember who they are and what they stand for! Think to yourself, why hate?

The US government is not perfect, nor is any government. Look unto the world, look into yourself...is it worth it to hate another? ... Is it? ... Is it worth it!

Walker
09-05-02, 10:15 AM
The seriousness with which people reply to this thead disturbs me.

Deena
09-05-02, 05:35 PM
i am too surprised by the seriousness walker i can not believe that people are working so hard to have some affect on this person because it is clear that he is talking just to be heard his posts have no point all of his questions are cliche and vague and it is also clear that he has no original thoughts in his brain


Man, I'm not as good at that.

Walker
09-05-02, 09:15 PM
that mite be beecause you were good withspelling and also allyour thought s were linear and you didnt' run alot of words together but anyway God will forgiveyou im pretty sure.

Banshee
09-05-02, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by unchained
It is radical fools like you that shall be the end of us all! If you want an enemy, look toward yourself. It seems your the only one willing to listen to those ignorance opinions of yours. See the truth, the United States would rather not put its foot in the affairs of others. However, the pressures of keeping liberty alive and the voices of others has transformed US foriegn relations into a nightmare of epic proportions! The US is now expected to keep the peace, help end religious oppression, and so forth or be labeled an uncarring society of freedom loving heretics. This wouldn't be true for many other nations.

The US is the last superpower,

I listen to the, what you call, ignorance opinions of Avatar. The US would rather NOT put its foot down in the affairs of others?! Get real, get a grip! The US loves to dominate and mingle in other nations affairs. The US is out to be at war, not keep the peace. Look at what your damned government is doing to get a war lose at Iraq. No matter my opinion on Saddam at this moment, it is the way your beloved president is behaving and forcing yet another war, in the name of terrorism, upon other nations.

Voices in Europe are against the plans of bush and associates. Even PM Blair, who is one of the playmates of bush. CORRECTION : PM Blair is willing to pay the "bloodprice" and accompany the U$ in their planned war on Saddam.

BBC interview with Blair will be broadcasted Sunday.


Where is the freedom gone in the US, Unchained? Tell me! I am dying to know. Where was the freedom when people were protesting against bush and were fired at with rubber bullets by the cops? Was that not in the same US you are defending and from which you are saying it is a society of freedom?

US the last superpower? Who the hell wants to be a superpower like the US is displaying right now? No other nation has come this close to total world domination as the US wants, at this very moment. I think it is ridiculous. You make it sound as if the US is the only nation in the whole wide world who has the common sense to be ruler of the world. Away with those ridiculous political games. Away with bush!

I am with Avatar:


Viva l'Democracy!
Long live the free nations of Europe!
We will be victorious!


Go, go, go Europe! Unite thee, against the U$! Free yourself from the New Worldorder with its stupid claims to be excluded from UN rules, which are made for a reason, not to undermine them. I quit with this, it is talking against a deafman's ears probably.


As a last point, to stay a very little ontopic: U$ is Hell, godblessed or not, all the same to me...

Walker
09-07-02, 04:53 AM
Banshee: I rather like it. My girlfriend lives here.

Banshee
09-07-02, 06:25 AM
Walker, you seem to miss the point here. I live here too, in the U$. It was merely a reply to the ridiculous (to me) post by Unchained.

Case closed!

Walker
09-07-02, 10:17 PM
Hey, I know, settle! I'm just kiddin' around.

Tyler
09-07-02, 10:58 PM
"See the truth, the United States would rather not put its foot in the affairs of others. However, the pressures of keeping liberty alive and the voices of others has transformed US foriegn relations into a nightmare of epic proportions! The US is now expected to keep the peace, help end religious oppression, and so forth or be labeled an uncarring society of freedom loving heretics"

What the hell are you talking about?? The U.S. is like any right wing (relative to Europe and Canada) nation; it does what's in the interest of it. You guys have never, ever, stepped in with the sole benefit of ending religious oppresion. I will not deny that the U.S. has done some great, great things; but you're far from honourable in all your intentions. Half of the time after the rise of America as the West's superpower you guys were instilling Nazis in power across the globe. The other time was spent trying to hunt down commies in your own country. If what you said was true, the U.S. would have been FORCED to step into Afghanistan about 15 years ago. Oh, oh wait. Never mind. About 15 years ago you guys were helping Osama.

machaon
09-26-02, 01:35 AM
Is the anti Christ on the earth now or is he the man who will lead us into One World Order or is he the man who hides at present behind those who we trust and believe in, is there a battle between good and evil is it religion or politics that lead our destiny or do we decide our own destiny or is there some one watching over us.

Yes, yes , oh yes. How rude. I should have let everyone know that I, am in fact, the much dreaded anti-christ. Those naughty Christians... I could just pinch them......

machaon
09-30-02, 02:12 AM
This is not intended as being mean, just as help. Seperate your sentences with "." periods, like this. Make each individual thought or stream of words comprising a thought a separate sentence, beginning with a capital letter and ending with a period. This will make it MUCH easier for us to read and understand.

When a poster claims to not be educated, please refrain from being a complete asshole.

machaon
09-30-02, 04:31 PM
Yes I DO know how to spell edjucated.

prozak
10-02-02, 06:12 PM
The AntiChrist is a hero.

yumyum
10-06-02, 08:39 PM
ok andrew im not sure i get the point of the thread. if you were to stop being so vague(i think i spelled that right) we would know what your talking about.

EvilPoet
10-06-02, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Andrew111
You probably think I am as mad as a hatter

"What sort of of people live about here?"
"In that direction," the Cat said, waving its
right paw round, "lives a Hatter: and in that
direction," waving the other paw, "lives the
March Hare. Visit either you like: they're both
mad."
"But I don't want to go among mad people,"
Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're
all mad here. I am mad. Your mad" "How do
you know I'm mad?" said Alice
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't
have come here."
-Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

prozak
10-09-02, 07:55 PM
Praise the Lord! Praise God! It's what you wish to sell
There is no Heaven - Without a HELL

Adam
10-09-02, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by machaon
When a poster claims to not be educated, please refrain from being a complete asshole.
Hmph. What a nasty little person.

prozak
10-09-02, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Adam
Hmph. What a nasty little person.

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