View Full Version : How to save the Earth ?


Futurist
09-28-02, 11:53 PM
Hi,

if the earth is gone, we all die too.
what can we contribute in our daily life to save the earth from pollution and so on?

:confused:

wet1
09-29-02, 11:20 PM
I would think the first question to ask is, " Are we in a state of runaway pollution?"

There are a lot of differing opinions out there.

There is no denying that we have had an effect upon our enviroment. The history of the earth shows that it has been in a state of change throughout its existance. Could we have breathed the primoral atmosphere that existed before plants arrived on the scene?

I agree that there is but one home for us and that if we don't houseclean, nothing else on the earth is going to do it for us.

For me it is a driving reason to see space used to our benefit. At the present time all of our eggs are in one basket. We are tied to the earth for our very existance. It is now being shown to us that this is not our only threat. There is also the possiblity of us going the way that so many species in the past have went. Extinct. One good asteroid strike could put us in the same position as those that have went before us.

Such a scenario is something that if we heard we would be hit next month, we could do nothing about, except watch it come. Pollution is a slow poisoning but none the less effective. Unless we have another home I am afraid that there will be no one to jump to the task until it is too late to make a difference.

Futurist
09-30-02, 06:05 AM
wet 1,

you are concerned about the earth, good!
we need more people like you,

we can help by recycling our coca cola cans, use both sides of paper etc..... :rolleyes:

Thor
09-30-02, 06:16 AM
I was gonna start a thread about recycling :(


we need more people like you,

More people to confuse me :D


Could we have breathed the primoral atmosphere that existed before plants arrived on the scene?

No, no we couldn't. Nothing could have survived in Earths very first atmosphere (:confused: ). If I remember back to Biology lessons, wasn't it mostly Water Vapour and Ammonia?


One good asteroid strike could put us in the same position as those that have went before us.

We have a secret weapon though. Humans have the uncanny gift of surviving against all odds. We are very adaptable to changing environments. Probably one of the main reasons we are the dominant species


Anyway, I try to do my best for the Earth. I recycle paper and card. Put all my biomass on a compost heap in the garden, I don't litter and I do various other things but atm, I can't remember them.

Every little helps.

spookz
10-01-02, 02:06 PM
isnt this place cleaner (on the whole) than say 30 yrs ago??

*stRgrL*
10-01-02, 02:38 PM
Give a hoot! Dont pollute!:D

Pine_net
10-01-02, 03:28 PM
Give a hoot! Dont pollute!

:cool:

Clockwood
10-01-02, 10:06 PM
Technically oxygen itself is a pollutant. The first photosynthetic organisms produced it as a wasteproduct that nothing could survive.

In the next million years >99% of the life on earth (all bacteria as far as we know) went extinct. The rocks themselves burned (rapid oxidation. moonrocks do this on contact with modern air. So would mars rocks) whenever they were uncovered. Only a few resistant anarobic organisms lived on to diversify. Others developed a way to use oxygen as a fule.

The same thing could happen again if pollution got TRUELY out of hand. I don't think we can go a billion years out or our way to re-evolve multicellular life and another billion to re-evolve sapience.

Puts things into perspective, dosn't it?

monkapotomus
10-02-02, 06:30 PM
kill the humans

grazzhoppa
10-02-02, 07:21 PM
kill the humans
There's a person who really cares more about Earth than him\herself...unless aliens have invaded already :confused:

monkapotomus
10-02-02, 09:15 PM
they have, where have you been?:D

Clockwood
10-03-02, 11:11 PM
Vegitariens eat vegitables. Do humanitariens eat humans?

monkapotomus
10-04-02, 08:59 AM
i eat female humans.:D

Banshee
10-04-02, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Thor
We are very adaptable to changing environments. Probably one of the main reasons we are the dominant species

Adaptable to changing environments because we ourselves are changing the environments? Isn't it so that a lot of species, like tigers and so on get extinct because of us, humans?

Is that the reason you say we are the dominant species? I do not think we are, though. Humans have spread themselves all over the globe and invaded every single piece of Earth that originally belonged to nature and her inhabitants like tigers and the like. So, the animals have to make room for the overpopulated human race.

This can not always go on, the way it does. At some point, humans have to stop this kind of behaviour. The dominant species? Or the species that is most present at the moment here on Earth? Is that a good thing? I doubt it highly. I would say, the human race is the most arrogant species to think they have the sole reign over the Earth, with their pollutant factories and thinking they can easily go on the way we are doing now. Animal species are killed because they are "a danger" to humans. Which is ridiculous, humans want living space and that is why the animals have to die.

At some point it will be enough and then it is: Goodbye human race, or change your behaviour drastically, which will probably not happen, 'cause humans have the stunning attitude to think that it all will be alright and nothing can stop them from their silly polluting inventions and behaviour.

May an asteroid or other natural disaster come and do its work. Clean Earth so it can start over again with less humans and hopefully some other species will get the chance to live again. If you get my point...

Clockwood
10-23-02, 07:20 PM
Life will evolve to take advantage of us, as it has done with everything else in its history. Remember, oxygen itself is a pollutant.

One type of fern in Omaha (found in an old Asarco refinery lot) has found how to concentrate heavy meatals in its tissues without becomeing sick. Anything that eats is dies. Advantage.

BatM
10-24-02, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Banshee

May an asteroid or other natural disaster come and do its work. Clean Earth so it can start over again with less humans and hopefully some other species will get the chance to live again. If you get my point...


Better yet, invent "homo superior" and watch it take over and adapt to this world better than we can. Don't worry about some God sending down a lightning bolt (or asteroid) from the heavens to take care of us, we'll find a way to do it on our own.

:D

Clockwood
10-27-02, 02:47 PM
Why just one Homo Superior? Why not many varieties?

BatM
10-27-02, 05:54 PM
Because, after the first one takes over, such dangerous technology to create advanced humanity will be removed from our immature hands.

:D

Clockwood
10-28-02, 04:25 PM
why physically take over at all? With domanant alleles they could breed with us and all children would be Homo Superior. They could look just like us so who would know.

BatM
10-28-02, 07:58 PM
Several reasons:


Interspecies breeding rarely works.
When it does, the cross-breed is a mutant with some features of both species (horse+donkey=jacka**).
The mutant could be viewed as a threat to the "pure" species.
Even the sub-species could be a threat to the superior-species (even if inadvertently).
The world is already overcrowded.

Eman Resu
11-05-02, 08:29 PM
I think the "superior" species has already evolved into human form. It's easy to tell which species is which ... those that have will survive while those without will die trying to obtain what the haves have (all the while participating as a slave in the global economic game of THIS life).

When you can afford the "prescriptions" that fend-off the diseases of tomorrow you will survive. When you can't ... you won't.

Advice: If you're male - find a rich one. If you're female - find a rich one with superior genes.

Then again, isn't that human biology and evolution in a nut-shell?

Now tell me ... who ISN'T sick of it all?

BatM
11-06-02, 12:15 AM
Survival of the fittest. Now you're saying that economics will determine who is "fit". What if the "price" is too high? :bugeye:

Eman Resu
11-06-02, 09:08 PM
The price is definitely high. The only thing worth living for in this life is life itself. It seems obvious that the "fittest" in any culture survive. Think of the modern push toward capitalism as a culture. Those that survive are the intellectually savvy ones - whether it is at the top of the "cultural" order or at the bottom. The guy at the top has it through bloodline. The guy at the bottom has to prove it with intellect and smarts. When HE gets to the top the idiots there will soon find themselves licking boots unless the fortune that their ancestors amassed is far too great to swindle ...

If you can't make it then your current life will lead you to another culture that appreciates living and the 6 senses or straight to the grave.

I like capitalism ..... but with age has come the wisdom that it is meant for the young who are filled with greed. I'm still waiting for the utopia ...

Clockwood
11-08-02, 12:25 AM
Whatever works is good. Whatever dosnt is bad. The system needs no looking over as the bad dies out gradually.