It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String

It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String

I hope it's not H1N1, String.. On the other hand, it supposedly isn't as bad as they initially made it out to be.
Get well soon! :)

I think I might have had H1N1 about 4 months ago, I never got checked I just stayed at home for a while quarantining myself.
It was no worse then any other flu I’ve had but this is the second time round for America so it might have mutated.
It seems that its really dangerous to pregnant women.

Uhm, String... ? Are you still there? :p

stay away from me! I cant get sick, and I dont like being sick!! *puts her fingers up in the shape of a cross*
back! Back i say!!!

get well soon

i think i get the flu every year. i just stay home and sleep. not that i know for sure that i actual DO have the flu.

no...this is it.

it is H1N1, superstring is infected.

there is no going back.

this is the end.

http://www.mylifetime.com/files/imagecache/photo_gallery_featured/files/images/h-395x298-garlic_0.jpg

i recommend he bake himself to raise his body temp enough to immobilize the virus.

the rterm bake is used for lack of a better term right now but not literral bake himself.

also eat as little as possible.

Get well soon!

Same here. I'm at a conference though, so I get fuck all.

i recommend he bake himself to raise his body temp enough to immobilize the virus.


what about self-microwaving? :D

also eat as little as possible.
What is the reasoning behind that?

i dont know but for some reason it makes sense. i think that the extra work imposed on the system due to digestion is not benefiting the immune system.

i dont know but for some reason it makes sense. i think that the extra work imposed on the system due to digestion is not benefiting the immune system.

Well, starving yourself can't be much help either.. :shrug:

I say eat when you feel like eating.

and what about the extra lack of vitamins and minerals necessary for succesfful immune response as result of less eating?

anyways, John99 I will diet starting from now, based on your statement that less eating is better against flu.

Well, starving yourself can't be much help either.. :shrug:

I say eat when you feel like eating.

He is right, you know. Eating in bulk is not beneficial at all. Just eat less and stay healthy.

He is right, you know. Eating in bulk is not beneficial at all. Just eat less and stay healthy.

He said: eat as little as possible [when you have the flu].

I think your body knows when it's alright to eat. Eat when you feel like it. If your body isn't up for digestion yet you won't feel like eating anyway.

Well, starving yourself can't be much help either.. :shrug:


obviously not. i never said to starve himself though.

It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String

Hang in there String.

Flu symptoms:


Fever of 100 degrees F for 3 to 4 days
Dry cough
Severe headaches and pains
Chills (60% of folks experience)
Tiredness
Rapid onset (3-6 hours)
Chest discomfort

Not ususall present, stuffy nose, sneezing and productive cough

I think your body knows when it's alright to eat. Eat when you feel like it.

My body is lying to me, it does not know what is best for it. My body want more calories, but my mind knows when enough is enough. A war between mind and body is everyday part of my life.

obviously not. i never said to starve himself though.
"Eat as little as possible" sounds an awful lot like "starve yourself" to me. Anyway, see my post above.

Hmmm this could be bad, I think String said he got the 1st sniffer part of the swine flu shot...if he didn't get the 2nd part yet, that means his immune system is boosted which is exactly what boosts the effects of the swine flu.

My body is lying to me, it does not know what is best for it. My body want more calories, but my mind knows when enough is enough. A war between mind and body is everyday part of my life.

doesnt you stomach stay distended? thus requiring more intake.

"Eat as little as possible" sounds an awful lot like "starve yourself" to me. Anyway, see my post above.

have you ever heard this:

feed a cold, __________________ a __________________.

have you ever heard this:

feed a cold, __________________ a __________________.

No. I usually don't eat or eat very little when I'm sick. But that's because I don't feel like it, not because someone else told me so.
As soon as I start to feel like eating again I start to eat. And pretty soon I'll be better.

doesnt you stomach stay distended? thus requiring more intake.

not at all, if I fool it.

It's called Chicken soup.

It's called Chicken soup.
Yea, what's up with that? Does that actually work?

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Today, 01:21 PM #26

“ Originally Posted by John99
doesnt you stomach stay distended? thus requiring more intake. ”

not at all, if I fool it.

well we have two things at work here:

the physical (hunger) and the psychological.

the physical is determined by the stomach.

Yea, what's up with that? Does that actually work?

it is just enough so the patient does not expire. he can leave the chicken out as a matter of preference.

Yea, what's up with that? Does that actually work?

yeah you can eat and only like wind up barfing up half of it.

Bacterial coinfection with Streptococcus pneumoniae may have contributed to deaths in the United States from 2009 H1N1 influenza
link: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/709717

Superstring will be more prevalent to complications now from H1N1 influenza virus contracted if he has Streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria, so staying fit is important.

Meanwhile H1N1 virus claims more death tolls

yeah you can eat and only like wind up barfing up half of it.
lol
As long as you're throwing up I wouldn't recommend eating anything substantial.

My doctor once told me that drinking Coca cola is a good thing when you have the flu.. :D

It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String
I've been sick since Saturday. My wife, daughter, and two of my sons are also sick. As is over half of my daughter's class. (she had it first in our family).

No one has seen the doctor, But I assume it's the swine flu since that's what's going around. On the plus side, this settles the issue of whether or not to get the vaccine.

Hang in there String.

Flu symptoms:


Fever of 100 degrees F for 3 to 4 days
Dry cough
Severe headaches and pains
Chills (60% of folks experience)
Tiredness
Rapid onset (3-6 hours)
Chest discomfort

Not ususall present, stuffy nose, sneezing and productive cough
i get bad headaches and pains alot during the winter, alot of chills, Always tired, and discomfort.. and I get bad stuffy noses and tend to cough alot more.. but I have never really had a flu.. unless you count the 24hr bug I normally get....


It's called Chicken soup.

not just that.. you can make broths.. drs dont like people eating when they are sick, but tell you to drink all that you can. its easier on ur tummy..so make soup and just drink the juice if you dont feel liek eating

You bring up a good point Christa, people need to stay hydrated when ill.

i recommend he bake himself.....

That's my solution for everything! :m:

I hope it's not H1N1, String.. On the other hand, it supposedly isn't as bad as they initially made it out to be.
Get well soon! :)

Just got back from the doctor. It's tentatively H1N1, but we won't know until Friday.

Until then, I'm out of work for at least five days and I'm taking Tamiflu (http://www.tamiflu.com/).

~String

It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String

You lucky swine. :D

Ehm..you can also die of the regular flu...if things develop wrongly. If you're generally a healthy person then H1N1 will be similar to having the regular flu, maybe it will be a bigger strain for your body...but that's about it. But actually...why should it..the regular flu is horrible, too.

Just got back from the doctor. It's tentatively H1N1, but we won't know until Friday.

Until then, I'm out of work for at least five days and I'm taking Tamiflu (http://www.tamiflu.com/).

~String

I had h1n1, I had troubles breathing and I felt soar all over my body...but I didn't have the general symptoms of flu. I tried everything I could...I think the trick is to not let the flu ever famish your body. I made sure to always keep a full stomach and fully hydrated. Once you're famished, it's as if the flu has free reign.

It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String

I understood from a previous post of yours that you had both the H1 N1 and the seasonal flu shots . So the issue now is : are these vaccinations any good since you got sick just few days after them ?. I think the public are left in the dark when it comes to waht they are putting into their bodies .
I hope it is not H1 N1 because sometimes it is really terrible . it might be just a seasonal cold and not even a flu . Good luck and all my best wishes .

Just got back from the doctor. It's tentatively H1N1, but we won't know until Friday.

Until then, I'm out of work for at least five days and I'm taking Tamiflu (http://www.tamiflu.com/).

~String

i am skeptical that you have the flu.

i am skeptical that you have the flu.

There is only ONE way to test that! :cool: Hugs time with superstring! Test the effects of the flu on yourself and see the disbelief shatter into quadrillion pieces.

when u have the flu, the last thing you think about is eating untill u are super hungry! but it wont take much to fill you... think about when u where a kid, and ur parents dropped u off at grandmas.... and go from there! put on some cartoons, get all cumfy and warm on the couch.. get up to make broths. lay back down... who cares if u get slobby.. ur sick

There is only ONE way to test that! :cool: Hugs time with superstring! Test the effects of the flu on yourself and see the disbelief shatter into quadrillion pieces.

he is ill but maybe not flu. sometimes we get excited about sickness.

i may hug him if i knew him and what i would do is not breath in.

Thanks guys. Never made it to get the H1N1 vaccine. I got the regular flu vaccine, but not zee svine flu vaccine.

~String

he is ill but maybe not flu. sometimes we get excited about sickness.

i may hug him if i knew him and what i would do is not breath in.

It's the flu.

My doc says that, realistically, H1N1 is the only flu bug going around right now. He tested for and had it earlier last month (before they got the vaccine). It may not be H1N1, but it is CERTAINLY the flu.

~String

You'll survive it, superstring01 -- hopefully you'll not be sick for too long..

It's the flu.

My doc says that, realistically, H1N1 is the only flu bug going around right now. He tested for and had it earlier last month (before they got the vaccine). It may not be H1N1, but it is CERTAINLY the flu.

~String
i have to say, i still think its the same dammed flu, they just want everyone to freak out

i have to say, i still think its the same dammed flu, they just want everyone to freak out

No it's different. Since it affects the lungs more, it's more dangerous. Well String, I think it's for the best you didn't get the vaccine(as you know), when you pull through, at least you can not have any worries for yourself about this swine flu crap.

You'll survive it, superstring01 -- hopefully you'll not be sick for too long..

Oh, I will.


i have to say, i still think its the same dammed flu, they just want everyone to freak out

I disagree. I've known my doctor for years. He's no fan of the American political/medical system (He's a Brit). He's never pulled any punches or failed to tell me the blunt truth about things even when a softer method would have worked.

This is the guy who performed minor surgery (one which should have been done in an OR) in his office because I didn't feel like waiting. We're close enough.

Moreover I come from a medical family. My mother was a doctor, my elder sister is a dentist and my best friend's dad is a cardiologist.

For what you say to be true, 580,000 doctors would have to be "in on it" and not leak a word. Shit, Nixon couldn't even get the three burglars in Watergate to keep their mouths shut. But 580k doctors and untold other medical professionals would have to be a part of this conspiracy.

Sorry. I don't buy it. It's not so much that I trust the system as much as I trust the human instinct to run their mouth.

~String

Oh, I will.



I disagree. I've known my doctor for years. He's no fan of the American political/medical system (He's a Brit). He's never pulled any punches or failed to tell me the blunt truth about things even when a softer method would have worked.

This is the guy who performed minor surgery (one which should have been done in an OR) in his office because I didn't feel like waiting. We're close enough.

Moreover I come from a medical family. My mother was a doctor, my elder sister is a dentist and my best friend's dad is a cardiologist.

For what you say to be true, 580,000 doctors would have to be "in on it" and not leak a word. Shit, Nixon couldn't even get the three burglars in Watergate to keep their mouths shut. But 580k doctors and untold other medical professionals would have to be a part of this conspiracy.

Sorry. I don't buy it. It's not so much that I trust the system as much as I trust the human instinct to run their mouth.

~String
honestly, its just my view on it... that is it... everyone sits there and trys to tell me, oh its totally different then the flu because you can die from it!! Yet, they fail to realize you can die from a normal flu also...

so with all the argueing about that crap, I have just come to terms with saying that to me, its the same thing.. but that is awesome ur friends and family are in the medical field!

i have to say, i still think its the same dammed flu, they just want everyone to freak out

I agree. Sure it's a different strain, but how can anyone honestly think the media isn't having a field day with it? Just like they did with little Esteban, OJ Simpson's trial and Chris Brown and Rihanna. Every time I turn on the TV or pick a news paper or magazine it's H1N1 this and H1N1 that. "Get the vaccine", "Don't get the vaccine", "30 children died today, H1N1 might be the cause or it might not" yada yada yada.

I had h1n1, I had troubles breathing and I felt soar all over my body...but I didn't have the general symptoms of flu. I tried everything I could...I think the trick is to not let the flu ever famish your body. I made sure to always keep a full stomach and fully hydrated. Once you're famished, it's as if the flu has free reign.

That might work for some strains of influenza, but it isn't going to help much with a flu bug that causes vomiting.

Question : do you know if it is okay to have both the seasonal flu vaccination and the H1 N1 vaccination in a one week for example OR is there a waiting period like 15 or 30 days between the two ?. I like to have both but I got none yet .

Question : do you know if it is okay to have both the seasonal flu vaccination and the H1 N1 vaccination in a one week for example OR is there a waiting period like 15 or 30 days between the two ?. I like to have both but I got none yet .

and now you want a flu shot all of a sudden?

Enjoy the daytime TV string! :p

and now you want a flu shot all of a sudden?
Not at a sudden....the whole thing is so confusing .

i know someone who gets a flu shot every year and they are fine. i never got one though so i cant say what it involves.

Just got back from the doctor. It's tentatively H1N1, but we won't know until Friday.

Until then, I'm out of work for at least five days and I'm taking Tamiflu (http://www.tamiflu.com/).

~String

Yikes! Well, at least you're off work.. ;)

You'll survive it, superstring01 -- hopefully you'll not be sick for too long..


Oh, I will.
You will what? Survive it, or be sick for a long time? :D

i know someone who gets a flu shot every year and they are fine. i never got one though so i cant say what it involves.

i had the flu shot when I was going to a vocational school, I went from feeling just fine, to feeling like death.. I personally wont ever do it again, and I wont give it to my daughter unless its 100% mandatory. mine was, even tho I didnt want it.. Since I had it, I get sicker in the wintertime then I did before.. I went from a stuffy nose all winter long, to getting strep throat, a constant cold, productive coughs.. and I dont like it.. lol

drugs to use against viral infections:

Interferon
acyclovir
combivir

You can also try this cold remedy:
very finely cut tomatoes
red onions
mashed garlic buds
vegetable oil
lemon juice.

Eat as much as you can stand.

Herbs to try:

Astragulus (Astragalus Membranaceus) – A potent immune enhancer. Best taken before cold and flu season strikes, it builds the body’s resistance.

Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus Senticos) – Has anti-viral properties and boost the immune system.

Codonopsis Root (Codonopis pilosulae) – For immune deficiency and frequent infections

Schizandra Berries (Schizandra chinensis) – Boost the body’s immune function

Reishi Mushroom – (Ganoderma lucidum) – Stimulates the immune system

All of the herbs listed above can be taken as a tea or a tincture during this flu season on a preventive basis.

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- At the first signs of the Flu – a diaphoretic remedy such as Osha Root (Ligusticum porteri) which can be taken, it will encourage sweating and help to eliminate toxins. Osha Root was first used by Native Americans to treat colds, flu and upper respiratory infections. It is a powerful, antimicrobial, anti-flamatory and antiseptic herb. An Osha tea or tincture can be taken in small doses every half hour to an hour.

- If your cold symptoms become inflammatory, take an herbal antibiotic or anti-microbial – such as Golden Seal (Hydrastis canadensis) or Echinacea (Echinacea purpurea) in tea or tincture of up to 7 days. These are both powerful herbs and should be regarded as such.

- If you are congested, have a cough or phlegm present – use an expectorant, astringent, and antispasmodic herb. Echinacea can kill germs and dries phlegm. Echinacea can be a drying herb, so you should not take when you have a dry cough. Use an herbal steam of Peppermint (Menta piperita) and Eucalyptus (Eucalyptus globules)to help with the congestion. Other herbs that can help are: Yarrow (Achillea millefolium), Mullein (Verbascum thapsus)and Wild Cherry (Prunus serotina), Elecampane (Inula helenium) and Thyme(Thymus vulagris).

- For a sore throat – use a soothing demulcent (an herb which provides moisture) such as Marshmallow Root (Althaea officinalis) and Slippery Elm (Ulmus rubra). Osha can also be taken to reduce inflammation, it will soother and anesthezie. A gargle can be made with Yarrow, Sage (Salvia officinales) and or Echinacea.

- For Ear Infections – An ear infection usually begins in the throat and spread to the inner ear via the Eustachian tube. Use an anti-microbial such as – Garlic, Echinacea, Mullein or/and Meadowsweet (Filipendula ulmaria) for the pain.

- For a Fever use an herb that is febrifuge (brings down a fever) and diaphoretic (promotes sweating), such as – Ginger, Boneset – relieve aches and pains, Peppermint, Elder Flowers, Catnip (especially great for young children) and Yarrow.

source: http://www.drgeorgekarlis.net/an-herbal-approach-to-h1n1-virus-swine-flu.htm

You can also try this cold remedy:
very finely cut tomatoes
red onions
mashed garlic buds
vegetable oil
lemon juice.

Eat as much as you can stand.

Herbs to try:

Astragulus (Astragalus Membranaceus) – A potent immune enhancer. Best taken before cold and flu season strikes, it builds the body’s resistance.

Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus Senticos) – Has anti-viral properties and boost the immune system.

Codonopsis Root (Codonopis pilosulae) – For immune deficiency and frequent infections

Schizandra Berries (Schizandra chinensis) – Boost the body’s immune function

Reishi Mushroom – (Ganoderma lucidum) – Stimulates the immune system

All of the herbs listed above can be taken as a tea or a tincture during this flu season on a preventive basis.

This works so well as a remedy due to the fact of the Ba ass breath you have and the people just keep there distance I am sure.

This works so well as a remedy due to the fact of the Ba ass breath you have and the people just keep there distance I am sure.

whats your choice Mr. Grim_Reaper:

Ba ass breath or D E A T H ?

whats your choice Mr. Grim_Reaper:

Ba ass breath or D E A T H ?

DEATH why eles would I call myself the Grim Reaper man keep up to speed here ok.

DEATH why eles would I call myself the Grim Reaper man keep up to speed here ok.

well than dead man don't talk. :cool:

well than dead man don't talk. :cool:

Maybe not to you but to the Grim Reaper they Speak Volumes.

And besides I am not a young weakling either if I get it I will get the sniffles for a few days and be done with it. Most death cases involve young people the ones that were not around for round one of the Flu in 75 I ave been there done that got the T shirt.

It may be the H1N1. . . or not. I get a free screening by my workplace tonight to see. But with every passing hour, I feel grosser and grosser.

~String

String, it was nice to know you. j/k

I sincerely wish you get well soon!

So... who is going to replace your mod position? :confused: ach >.<

Don't be panic, String. This is the time of the year when the season changes. Maybe it's just common cold. Let's hope so.

This is the time of the year when the season changes. Maybe it's just common cold. Let's hope so.

Here's something I've always wondered...Why are flu and colds so prolific around this time of year, and not at other times of the year?

Here's something I've always wondered...Why are flu and colds so prolific around this time of year, and not at other times of the year?

Simply put In door ventilation or rather the lack of it.

Here's something I've always wondered...Why are flu and colds so prolific around this time of year, and not at other times of the year?

In the changes of the season, like from winter to spring (where in the air there are a lot of tree pollen that makes people allergic and showing flu-like symptom [sneezing]), or from summer to autumn, or from autumn to winter (where the bodies get exposed to colder weather, but the minds think it's still summer :p) people are prone to get common cold. It's the first Newton's laws of motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion): "In the absence of force, a body either is at rest or moves in a straight line with constant speed." Here, the flu is the force (for him to wear pullover) :p

I think best for String is to eat and drink warm foods, sleep enough, wash hands with anti-bacterial soap regularly, wear socks, and avoid public place for some time (which he does).

Article suggests that decreased relative humidity is the cause of flu seasons.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/02/10/scientists-solve-the-mystery-of-flu-season/

Cook yourself a cold-remedy--use an entire bulb of garlic, a tin of tomatoes and a cup of rice (or pasta will do just as well) Whatever you have will be cleared out by the concoction.

Well, my friends. It seemed to be getting better. . . but only got worse. I had to go to the ER this morning (after dealing with some Sciforums posts, of course) because of dizziness and shortness of breath. Several X-Rays, swabs, an albuterol treatment, and other tests later. . . SURPRISE, I have H1N1. . . which, of course, we all knew.

Now I'm on something called Hicodan syrup which is yummy four the tummy and makes me feel all loopy inside. But, I'm cough free for now.

~String

Well, my friends. It seemed to be getting better. . . but only got worse. I had to go to the ER this morning (after dealing with some Sciforums posts, of course) because of dizziness and shortness of breath. Several X-Rays, swabs, an albuterol treatment, and other tests later. . . SURPRISE, I have H1N1. . . which, of course, we all knew.

Now I'm on something called Hicodan syrup which is yummy four the tummy and makes me feel all loopy inside. But, I'm cough free for now.

~String

Shit.. H1N1 for real then eh?
Hang in there, String!

Well, my friends. It seemed to be getting better. . . but only got worse. I had to go to the ER this morning (after dealing with some Sciforums posts, of course) because of dizziness and shortness of breath. Several X-Rays, swabs, an albuterol treatment, and other tests later. . . SURPRISE, I have H1N1. . . which, of course, we all knew.

Now I'm on something called Hicodan syrup which is yummy four the tummy and makes me feel all loopy inside. But, I'm cough free for now.

~String

Oh, oh.. *hugs superstring*

Excuse me for my ignorance,.. that you have H1N1, it doesn't mean you have swine flu, is it..? I just look it up in wiki:


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1

Influenza A virus subtype H1N1

Influenza A (H1N1) virus is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza (flu) in humans. Some strains of H1N1 are endemic in humans and cause a small fraction of all influenza-like illness and a large fraction of all seasonal influenza. H1N1 strains caused roughly half of all human flu infections in 2006.[1] Other strains of H1N1 are endemic in pigs (swine influenza) and in birds (avian influenza).
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I mean, there are chances that this is the normal flu, or :confused: I hope so (that it will gone in some days just like normal flu). Wishing you speedy recovery, String!

No. My first test came back positive for H1N1. So it's definitely the swine variety. And full blown flu to boot!

~String

Ohhhhh NO!

No. My first test came back positive for H1N1. So it's definitely the swine variety. And full blown flu to boot!

~String

Umm, yes,... but according to wiki, H1N1 doesn't necessarily mean swine flu:


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1

Influenza A virus subtype H1N1

Influenza A (H1N1) virus is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza (flu) in humans. Some strains of H1N1 are endemic in humans and cause a small fraction of all influenza-like illness and a large fraction of all seasonal influenza. H1N1 strains caused roughly half of all human flu infections in 2006.[1] Other strains of H1N1 are endemic in pigs (swine influenza) and in birds (avian influenza).
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Did your doctor tell you this is swine flu? And what the hell (pardon) are you doing here? You should have some rest! I am sure you'll be ok :)

No. My first test came back positive for H1N1. So it's definitely the swine variety. And full blown flu to boot!

~String

Sorry to hear that. Are you up for any pig jokes?

Q: Did you hear about the guy who said he would get sick when pigs Fly.
A: The Swine Flu

Sorry to hear that. Are you up for any pig jokes?

Q, I NEVER lose my sick sense of humor. Let'er rip!

~String

If I understand you correctly you got the Swine Flu ( N1H1 ).
So what meds are you taking to get rid of it ?.

The wolf said to the 3 little pigs “Come out or I’ll huff and I’ll puff and I’ll blow your house down”. The littlest pig replied “F*** off or I’ll sneeze on you!”

If I understand you correctly you got the Swine Flu ( N1H1 ).
So what meds are you taking to get rid of it ?.

Realistically there's no "cure", just treatment.

I was on Tamiflu which is the most common treatment. Usually quite effective.

Currently I'm on Hyocadan for the coughing.

~String

i have a cold! so does chy...lol.... feel bad for squirrel and or hope he doesnt get this cold!!

Tamiflu is a soothing drug, it will not cure the flu. The Russian designed drug against H1N1 virus, is Ingaverin, it will cure the virus. It has been designed specifically to combat H1N1 virus, its extract comes from Aplysia californica and its main molecular component is synthetic pseudodipeptide called Alistin.

Ингавирин®

If you have the money, you should buy it from overseas, studies have shown that it is very effective against H1N1.

online pharmacy store (its in russian though): http://spbapteka.ru/item.php?&uid=136380031946

Tamiflu is a soothing drug.

Negative. It's a real anti-viral. It's known to shorten the duration of the flu by roughly half. It's powerful stuff, though, as you noted, not a cure. Just a treatment, but a good one (as in, it doesn't treat the symptoms, but actually attacks the virus).


The Russian designed drug against H1N1 virus, is Ingaverin, it will cure the virus. It has been designed specifically to combat H1N1 virus, its extract comes from Aplysia californica and its main molecular component is synthetic pseudodipeptide called Alistin.

Ингавирин®

If you have the money, you should buy it from overseas, studies have shown that it is very effective against H1N1.

online pharmacy store (its in russian though): http://spbapteka.ru/item.php?&uid=136380031946

If it's not covered by my insurance and not known by my doctor, then I'm afraid I won't be getting it. I'm not under any delusions that there aren't grey market drugs that would work better (there is a treatment for cancer that's available in Europe that is, apparently, better than anything in the US right now). The FDA is a lumbering hulk. Though, in its defense, when it does rush drugs to the market, people die. So it takes its time.

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Interesting thing (http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=21423890):


Aim. To compare therapeutic efficacy and safety of ingavirin and arbidol in patients with influenza. Material and methods. The trial included 105 patients with a verified diagnosis of influenza, definite clinical symptoms, body temperature at least 38°C and duration of the disease 36 hours maximum. Ingavirin efficacy was analysed basing on the evidence for 100 patients with uncomplicated influenza. The patients were randomized into three groups: taking ingavirin in a single daily dose 90 mg (n = 33), placebo (n = 36) or arbidol (200 mg 4 times a day). The duration of the treatment was 5 days. Results. Intake of ingavirin in initial 24-36 hours of the disease significantly reduced fever compared to placebo and arbidol (34.5, 72.0 and 48.4 hours, respectively). Ingaverin was less toxic and had no side effects. Conclusion. Ingaverin is safe and effective in the treatment of influenza. By some criteria it is more

This differs from your statement a bit. Not quite a cure, still a treatment, but apparently a very good one. Though, I don't expect an FDA approved sale's license in the USA anytime soon.

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Blame the NWO

The Swine Flu Scam - New World Order Agenda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq8wkdA1VYE)

Question : do you know if it is okay to have both the seasonal flu vaccination and the H1 N1 vaccination in a one week for example OR is there a waiting period like 15 or 30 days between the two ?. I like to have both but I got none yet .

I found the answer to my above question from my city department of health .
There is no need at all to have any time interval between the seasonal flu vaccine and the swine ( H1 N1 ) flu vaccine . In other words you can have both of them in the same day if you wish .

So, a lion, a bear and a pig walk into a bar.

The lion said, " When I roar in the jungle, the entire jungle is afraid of me"

The bear said, " When I roar in the forest, the entire forest is shivering with fear"

The pig said, " That's nothing, I only have to cough and the entire planet shits bricks"

I was on Tamiflu which is the most common treatment. Usually quite effective.
Well, it'll probably save your bacon.

Heard on the local news today that a sick cat tested positive for swine flu. Vet reports cat recovering at home. I guess that makes it a true pandemic.

Heard on the local news today that a sick cat tested positive for swine flu. Vet reports cat recovering at home. I guess that makes it a true pandemic.
I see no pandemic yet . The media is making lots of noise about it and that is all there is . as far as the money goes, some companies are making tons of money from the government and the media fear mongering tactics .
From one hand they scare the public and from the other hand there is no flu shots available to vaccinate the population . Gross misinformation and gross stupidity based on making huge profits for certain corporations .
If it was that serious why on on earth the government did not provide the vaccines for its citizens ??!!.

I see no pandemic yet . The media is making lots of noise about it and that is all there is . as far as the money goes, some companies are making tons of money from the government and the media fear mongering tactics .
From one hand they scare the public and from the other hand there is no flu shots available to vaccinate the population . Gross misinformation and gross stupidity based on making huge profits for certain corporations .
If it was that serious why on on earth the government did not provide the vaccines for its citizens ??!!.

The hospital I went to (http://www.swgeneral.com/) could not admit me unless it was to save my life because their wards for the treatment of acute diseases were full. All cases would have to be shipped to other hospitals in the Cleveland area.

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I got a little bit of coughing, sore throat, fever and fatigue .
My doctor wrote me antibiotics and cough syrup .
The doc said I got a cold .
A friend of mine who works as a paramedics told me the doc should not have written me the antibiotics for the cold . Since I have them I am taking them, taking the cough syrup and plenty of juices .
Of course with this bug with me I can not have any vaccination until it is all cleared out . In my area you can have the regular seasonal flu vaccine at the doc's office but unless you are a high risk person you can not have the H1N1 swine flu vaccine . The rest of the population have to wait .

Dude. . . when did I start this thread? I've been sick for THAT long. I just had to call off work AGAIN for this.

Keep in mind, that I haven't called off at all in the past five years except to be rushed to the hospital for an emergency appendectomy.

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Just got back from the doctor. It's tentatively H1N1, but we won't know until Friday.

Until then, I'm out of work for at least five days and I'm taking Tamiflu (http://www.tamiflu.com/).

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Bleh

I had it. Was horrible. Ended up with pneumonia when it made my asthma flare. The shocking part of it though was how quickly it flared. I was fine in the morning (Friday morning) and by that night I felt like death (temperature was spiking and combined with chills and pain, along with the usual sore throat and sore everywhere). By the next morning my asthma had flared and I went to see a doctor (was a Saturday morning so my normal GP was closed) who prescribed me massive doses of cortisone and nothing else, which killed my immune system and I went into shutdown basically. By the Monday morning I thought I was going to die to be honest (could not breath and my blood pressure was all over the place) and was suffering from cortisone overdose because the idiot gp I saw on the weekend thought he could cure my asthma by giving me 3 times the dose I should have been given. My regular GP rushed all the tests and xray's and saw I had pneumonia and the swine flu. A week later I could still barely speak and the coughing.. ugh.. Took nearly a month before I stopped coughing.

Be warned, it can take weeks before you even start to feel remotely human.

Be warned, it can take weeks before you even start to feel remotely human.

Tell me 'bout it! It's been two weeks and I'm still dysfunctional.

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I got a little bit of coughing, sore throat, fever and fatigue .
My doctor wrote me antibiotics and cough syrup .
The doc said I got a cold .
A friend of mine who works as a paramedics told me the doc should not have written me the antibiotics for the cold . Since I have them I am taking them, taking the cough syrup and plenty of juices .
Of course with this bug with me I can not have any vaccination until it is all cleared out . In my area you can have the regular seasonal flu vaccine at the doc's office but unless you are a high risk person you can not have the H1N1 swine flu vaccine . The rest of the population have to wait .

ur drs are stupid too?!!! I was told I had the flu a month ago, just to find out 2days later it was a savear allergic reaction, and if I didnt go back to the dr, I could have become a crippled hunchback that wouldnt be able to move my arms ever again... the reaction caused all my muscles to tence up and I could barely pick up a blanket, and when I walked, I looked like the hunchback while limping and crying... and then my muscles would spazm again and omg.. I wanted to just die!

My boyfriend caught the flu, don't know if it's H1N1 or not yet though, he won't go to the doctor. Such a silly man.

I am not catching this though, no matter what. I'm ready to fight.

My boyfriend caught the flu, don't know if it's H1N1 or not yet though, he won't go to the doctor. Such a silly man.

I am not catching this though, no matter what. I'm ready to fight.

It's the only strain going around. Tell him not to mess with it. If he gets REALLY sick he needs to see a doc.

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It's the only strain going around. Tell him not to mess with it. If he gets REALLY sick he needs to see a doc.

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That's what I told him, but he thinks he's fine. But I'll make him go, if it gets bad.

My boyfriend caught the flu, don't know if it's H1N1 or not yet though, he won't go to the doctor. Such a silly man.

I am not catching this though, no matter what. I'm ready to fight.

How can you fight the H1 N1 or other flues without a vaccine ?.
Flues are contagious and easy to catch .

How can you fight the H1 N1 or other flues without a vaccine ?.
Flues are contagious and easy to catch .

True.

The flu can only be fought by an antiviral that is effective against influenza (i.e. Tamiflu).

And, yeah, people who think they can isolate themselves away from the flu are idiots. It's coming people! Swine flu is gonna' getcha'!!!

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And, yeah, people who think they can isolate themselves away from the flu are idiots. It's coming people! Swine flu is gonna' getcha'!!!

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That sounds familiar. Whatever the threshold is 80-90 whatever % MUST get H1N1 before it "goes away" for another generation...

H1N1 Flu shot just prolongs the misery. Perhaps...Perhaps it might help reduce the % of people that must become Immune before it's gone for another 20-30 years.

That sounds familiar. Whatever the threshold is 80-90 whatever % MUST get H1N1 before it "goes away" for another generation...

H1N1 Flu shot just prolongs the misery. Perhaps...Perhaps it might help reduce the % of people that must become Immune before it's gone for another 20-30 years.

Actually, that's not even remotely how it works.

Everybody will be exposed. A vaccine is just an early exposure and causes the body to develop the same anti-bodies that develop during an actual infection. The immunity does absolutely nothing to the eventual mutation of the virus. Influenza, being one of the fastest mutating viruses, will always adapt. Vaccines do nothing unnatural or odd. They just cause your body to do what it's going to do eventually anyway. . . without the risk of dying.

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How can you fight the H1 N1 or other flues without a vaccine ?.
Flues are contagious and easy to catch .

I was joking, but doing the obvious, I'm not going to go out of my way to catch my boyfriend's virus by sharing drinks or kissing him...etc. He got the vaccine because he had to for his job. Glad it worked so well, at least it was free.

I couldn't get it because my school said I didn't fall into their predefined high risk groups; so I'd have to wait until all of the priority people are out of the way. All the free places around here have set the same rules.

So I'm fighting it until then, by keeping my self healthy and not letting my boyfriend so much as breathe on me.

Actually, that's not even remotely how it works.

Everybody will be exposed. A vaccine is just an early exposure and causes the body to develop the same anti-bodies that develop during an actual infection.
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That is absolute bullshit. Source?

That is absolute bullshit. Source?

Source, as to how a vaccine works? I was referring specifically to viral vaccines, but it's all contained on the same page.

Here: Vaccine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine)

All that happens in a vaccination is that your body ends up producing the SAME, naturally occurring, antibodies that would be produced after an infection (and, in many cases avoiding lasting harm or even death).

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Vaccines trigger development of antibodies to the proteins on the surface of flu viruses, proteins that change often to evade the immune system. But when you catch the flu, something called cellular immunity also kicks in. It teaches the body to recognize other parts of a flu virus; those parts don't change as much from one virus subtype to another.

Without that cellular immunity, the Dutch researchers say, children who experience a pandemic could have more difficulty fighting off the new flu strain. They suggest this may explain why the majority of fatal cases of H5N1 avian influenza have occurred in children and young adults.

Read this article people. It's common sense. Something pharmaceutical companies DO NOT HAVE. H1N1 ,regular flu and avian flu and who knows how many others, will probably be around as long as there is civilization. Don't fuck up the natural immune system. Only get flu shots if you have some health -related problem.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gJLYIRDvHWdvSLZTUQ_yymuF5rBg

Read this article people. It's common sense. Something pharmaceutical companies DO NOT HAVE. H1N1 ,regular flu and avian flu and who know how many others, will probably be around as long as there is civilization. Don't fuck up the natural immune system.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gJLYIRDvHWdvSLZTUQ_yymuF5rBg

You found ONE article in a sea of hundreds that say otherwise. I could do the same thing about any topic.

How does a vaccine fuck-up the natural immune system? Flu is flu. The protein coats mutate in different animals (they inject their DNA into your cells to reproduce [XENOMORPH!], sometimes they mutate in the process). Flu always mutates. That's life. Each year you'll just need a new vaccine.

Can you demonstrate how a vaccine which merely causes you to produce antibodies causes harm?

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i still stand on my daughter and I will not be getting the shot.. we dont know anyone to be around that even has thought they had the flu. Tho she is more at risk going to school, she isnt around the children long enuff, and the teachers are very anal about hand washing and disinfecting. so I am not stressed... we have had 4deaths in the area because of said flu.. But I still refuse to have to deal with all the bs that comes with it... why should I have to allow my daughter to get a shot, so that she can get sick from side effects? She is a healthy child.

i still stand on my daughter....She is a healthy child.

LOL, not for long if you keep standing on her. ;)

You found ONE article in a sea of hundreds that say otherwise. I could do the same thing about any topic.

How does a vaccine fuck-up the natural immune system? Flu is flu. The protein coats mutate in different animals (they inject their DNA into your cells to reproduce [XENOMORPH!], sometimes they mutate in the process). Flu always mutates. That's life. Each year you'll just need a new vaccine.

Can you demonstrate how a vaccine which merely causes you to produce antibodies causes harm?

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Why so you can just bitch slap it with a "YOU FOUND ONE ARTICLE"...

Fuck you man, seriously, ...and now the ban. Like I care any more.

Why so you can just bitch slap it with a "YOU FOUND ONE ARTICLE"...

Fuck you man, seriously, ...and now the ban. Like I care any more.

Why? You're not in the WE&P fora.

I just think this demonstrates your immaturity and inability to carry on a real discussion with grown-ups. It's sad that you're so insecure that you can't even handle one person challenging you on a simple point. What, am I required to agree with you or else you'll throw a little tantrum? It's not like I'm demanding you agree with me; rather I'd just like to see your line of thinking and some corroborating evidence for what you say. That is, in the simplest sense, the very purpose of a discussion. Instead, you turn into a five year old little boy and ask to be banned. Honestly, it's pretty pathetic. It's not like I insulted you or called you names. You provided an article which, itself, admits that it's all just "theoretical", sorry, that's not really proof, Nietzche.

You've adopted this position and are only willing to accept information which supports your notion. That's flawed methodology and about as immature as a person can be. And then when challenged, you blow your top? Really? God, your life must really suck Nietzche. I mean, you get upset about this? How pathetic is that!?

I actually pitty you. If this gets your goat, then I can't imagine how miserable your life is outside the forum.

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