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Michael
03-05-11, 02:05 AM
I have no idea why, but for some stupid reason, I thought it sounded good to order Dominoes Pizza.

*runs to toilet*

:bawl:


So, I'm sitting there (literally) wondering: Why?!? By the Gods on High, WHY o WHY did I think fast food pizza was a good idea. Not only do I feel sick, I'm extremely exhausted, as if I received zero nutrition. The pizza looked weak and tasted as it looked :(

I can only think the reason why I thought it was a good idea was from childhood experience. I wanted to relive those memories of when we all went as a family to the once a year treat of the local Italian restaurant. The wood stove made fired HUGE pizzas and we loved it! Well, THAT is NOT what I got from my 2 x $10 Dominoes Pizza!

*rushes to toilet*

.... ..... .... ... I've just pitched the pizzas. I hate wasting food, but, I don't think this qualifies as food.....

livingin360
03-05-11, 02:19 AM
what?! dominoes pizza is awesome! so tasty!

joepistole
03-05-11, 02:27 AM
Sorry to hear of your condition Michael. But the pizza might not be the cause of your illness. Food poisioning bacteria usually have an incubation period of days and not hours. You probably received the offending bacteria at least 24 hours before you started showing symptoms.

The little beasties need time to grow before they can cause your body to display the symptoms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodborne_illness#Incubation_period

GeoffP
03-05-11, 05:51 AM
The worst thing is all the cheese. Christ, if there's more cheese than bread, there might just be too much cheese. Guh. Moderation. Moderation.

Hang in there, Mike. As the man said, this too shall pass. ;)

S.A.M.
03-05-11, 05:53 AM
Just had a Farmhouse special and Barbecue Chx from Dominoes last week. It was very good.

wynn
03-05-11, 05:58 AM
The pizza looked weak and tasted as it looked

Perhaps your bowels took a precautionary measure and expelled the poor quality food.

It happens to me sometimes when I eat food that isn't up to my usual standards.

cosmictraveler
03-05-11, 08:09 AM
[QUOTE=joepistole;2702664]Sorry to hear of your condition Michael. But the pizza might not be the cause of your illness. Food poisioning bacteria usually have an incubation period of days and not hours. You probably received the offending bacteria at least 24 hours before you started showing symptoms.
QUOTE]

Not in all cases because some food poisoning can become very disturbing within the first 6 hours after eating something that is contaminated. Your gut can have a quick reaction because it wants to get rid of the offending shiit that you've eaten before it even gets out of your stomach.

joepistole
03-05-11, 09:25 AM
Not in all cases because some food poisoning can become very disturbing within the first 6 hours after eating something that is contaminated. Your gut can have a quick reaction because it wants to get rid of the offending shiit that you've eaten before it even gets out of your stomach.

As the link I provided stated, a quick onset is indicative of a chemical toxin in the food, not bacterial infection. And I have not heard of case where a chemical toxins would cause the runs.

Diarrhea is not consistent with chemical exposure. Diarrhea is a symptom of bacterial or viral infection.

Michael did not describe symptoms of an allergy reaction. So we would have to conclude that he picked up a bug somewhere along the line. And it looks like the pizza was the last food item he ate prior to the symptoms showing up.
But that does not mean the pizza was the offending vector.

cosmictraveler
03-05-11, 09:47 AM
But that does not mean the pizza was the offending vector.

Food Poisoning Symptoms

Symptoms of food poisoning depend on the type of contaminant and the amount eaten. The symptoms can develop rapidly, within 30 minutes, or slowly, worsening over days to weeks. Most of the common contaminants cause:

•nausea,


•vomiting,


•diarrhea, and


•abdominal cramping.
Usually food poisoning is not serious, and the illness runs its course in 24-48 hours.

Viruses account for most food poisoning cases where a specific contaminant is found.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emedicinehealth.com%2Ffood_po isoning%2Fpage3_em.htm&ei=aFtyTdnlNsPngQfWiL2PBw&usg=AFQjCNGhNwFWPWLZZ1eFmqpSUvFKNFlEbw

GeoffP
03-05-11, 09:52 AM
As the link I provided stated, a quick onset is indicative of a chemical toxin in the food, not bacterial infection. And I have not heard of case where a chemical toxins would cause the runs.

Diarrhea is not consistent with chemical exposure. Diarrhea is a symptom of bacterial or viral infection.

Actually, there are a number of chemicals which can induce runny stool. I don't think they'd be found in any great concentration in his pizza, however.

wynn
03-05-11, 11:17 AM
Diarrhea is not consistent with chemical exposure. Diarrhea is a symptom of bacterial or viral infection.

Or stress.

Absane
03-05-11, 11:32 AM
Just had a Farmhouse special and Barbecue Chx from Dominoes last week. It was very good.

Farmhouse? From Dominoe's? What is that? I've never seen that on the menu...

ULTRA
03-05-11, 12:01 PM
Last year I ate some 3 day old chilli. Big mistake. It was the last thing I ate for nearly 5 weeks. I thought I was gonna die. I just couldn't keep anything in except for tea. I had to train my gut to accept food again. An altogether unpleasant experience. You have my sympathies in your distress.
My poisoning came on fairly rapidly as I recall, though I don't know what kind of bug it was. I am so much more careful with food now than I used to be, it's not nice at all.

Michael
03-05-11, 04:48 PM
Well, I feel better today :)

My personal opinion was it was the pizza - for whatever reasons. But, I can get sick even eating a McDonalds burger value meal. About the only thing I am OK with eating in terms of fast food is Subway. I don't know why? I suppose I'm weak when it comes to food.


Well, that aside, I bought a yogurt maker and I'm about to, right now, see if I can make some yogurt.

- plan of attack:
1. bring whole unhomogenized fill creme milk to a simmer.
2. let cool to room temp.
3. while milk is cooling lets some greek yogurt I bough warm up a bit in a bowl.
4. stir into warm milk.
5. put into yogurt maker (which I am assuming just keeps the milk warm). After 7 hours remove and put in refrigerator.

I almost LIVE on yogurt. I've tried to make it without the warmer and it's never really worked out for me. I know, it's very easy but it just never really worked. Because I eat so much of this stuff (either plain German or Greek) I want to make sure it's most fresh and still alive. I was wondering if it never worked before because the store bought stuff isn't optimum? I mean, how do I know the culture is alive and fresh (and is that important).


Did I ever post the research on fecal transplants :o haha.... it was the first time I had read of it, very interesting in that it's used as a treatment for obesity and even MS and PD. (yes, you read correctly fecal transplant - and yes it's exactly what you think :D

Dywyddyr
03-05-11, 05:04 PM
Serves you right.
I bought a Domino's pizza a few months back (because theirs was the only flyer in the junk mail pile that I could find at the time).
Two seconds after opening the box I remembered why it it had been ~15 years since I last bought one from there.

Stoniphi
03-05-11, 05:16 PM
We don't even go to restaurants any more, due to the salt and other sodium that they put in routinely.

Have had salmonella 3 times in my life, hope never to feel that way again. :)

You have my profoundest sympathy. :o

EDIT: If I want a pizza nowadays, I make it myself from scratch. :D

S.A.M.
03-05-11, 09:05 PM
Farmhouse? From Dominoe's? What is that? I've never seen that on the menu...

They probably have a more varied vegetarian menu in Asia

If you click on the menu tab, you can see the menu available in Mumbai

http://mumbai.burrp.com/listing/dominos-pizza_bandra-w_mumbai_fast-food-shops/156436653__CA##listing

Although TBH, I like some of the local Pizza outlets (http://www.recipemobile.com/the-5-best-places-you-can-eat-amazing-pizza-in-mumbai-692.htm) better than Dominoes but most of them don't deliver

Garcias makes a mean old fashioned pizza
http://www.mumbai77.com/pages/bombay-pizza/garcias-famous-pizza-mumbai-outlets/



Well, I feel better today :)

My personal opinion was it was the pizza - for whatever reasons. But, I can get sick even eating a McDonalds burger value meal. About the only thing I am OK with eating in terms of fast food is Subway. I don't know why? I suppose I'm weak when it comes to food.


Well, that aside, I bought a yogurt maker and I'm about to, right now, see if I can make some yogurt.

- plan of attack:
1. bring whole unhomogenized fill creme milk to a simmer.
2. let cool to room temp.
3. while milk is cooling lets some greek yogurt I bough warm up a bit in a bowl.
4. stir into warm milk.
5. put into yogurt maker (which I am assuming just keeps the milk warm). After 7 hours remove and put in refrigerator.

I almost LIVE on yogurt. I've tried to make it without the warmer and it's never really worked out for me. I know, it's very easy but it just never really worked. Because I eat so much of this stuff (either plain German or Greek) I want to make sure it's most fresh and still alive. I was wondering if it never worked before because the store bought stuff isn't optimum? I mean, how do I know the culture is alive and fresh (and is that important).


Did I ever post the research on fecal transplants :o haha.... it was the first time I had read of it, very interesting in that it's used as a treatment for obesity and even MS and PD. (yes, you read correctly fecal transplant - and yes it's exactly what you think :D

You should try the probiotic yoghurts and routinely eat a more varied cuisine to avoid getting stuck with a weak stomach. I have a cast iron stomach because I sample foods from all places on a regular basis.

quinnsong
03-05-11, 10:04 PM
Great advice!

S.A.M.
03-05-11, 10:39 PM
EDIT: If I want a pizza nowadays, I make it myself from scratch. :D

To make a pizza from scratch you have to start with the universe...;)

GeoffP
03-05-11, 10:42 PM
Or stress.

Good point.

chimpkin
03-06-11, 12:24 AM
@ S.A.M.
If you eat vendor food in Mumbai, you likely do have some very interesting and exotic (to us) intestinal flora...

Since I have been growing spray free vegetables (and chickweed), I have been eating said veggies unwashed and freshly cut from the planting beds. Just checked for insects before chopping.

I'm doing this deliberately so that I can get a more varied array of gut bugs.

Salmonella isn't that bad though-last time I had it was from handling an injured turtle...a few days of mudbutt, no more.

What I hate is when I get the two exits no waiting...when it's already coming out the bottom explosively, and you realize it's about to come out the top too, and the garbage can is full...well, you just end up with a mess everywhere, which you hope you don't pass out in.
It's nice to be able to collapse on a cool bathroom floor without it being all slimy.
Chinese buffets aren't my friends at all.

S.A.M.
03-06-11, 12:34 AM
Yes, if you don't build immunity you can succumb to any of the m.o. that are normally present in food. Especially if your choice of meals veers on the sanitised and packaged. Even yoghurt for instance. Commercial yoghurt is pasteurised and the active organisms are killed in them. I usually set yoghurt at home in an earthern pot. Another problem could be that if you habitually eat a low fiber diet you tend to "react" to any high fiber food adversely, showing symptoms similar to food poisoning. You should have at least 2 servings of fresh vegetables and one serving of fruit a day. Most westerners also eat insufficient soluble fiber which also leads to similar effects [beans, lentils, pulses]

Bells
03-06-11, 02:27 AM
To make a pizza from scratch you have to start with the universe...;)

We make it from scratch. The kids refuse to eat store bought as, well, it's nasty (too much sauce, cheese and way wayyy too much on it).

So much nicer to make it from scratch. The dough is easy and you get to decide exactly what goes on it and how much.

Baby Bocochino cheese with lots of mushrooms and thinly sliced salami is a favourite with the kids.. :D And with us as well.. Although I like to add onions, sundried tomato and fresh basil to it.. way wayyy yummy!

Mmmmm pizza..

James R
03-06-11, 02:46 AM
To make a pizza from scratch you have to start with the universe...;)

As it happens, I have one handy, right here. It must have been prepared earlier.

SciWriter
03-06-11, 03:01 AM
What I hate is when I get the two exits no waiting...when it's already coming out the bottom explosively, and you realize it's about to come out the top too, and the garbage can is full...well, you just end up with a mess everywhere, which you hope you don't pass out in.

Never combine pasta with anti-pasta.

WillNever
03-06-11, 07:46 AM
As the link I provided stated, a quick onset is indicative of a chemical toxin in the food, not bacterial infection. And I have not heard of case where a chemical toxins would cause the runs.
Gastroenteritis is usually caused by a virus anyway.

And the cause may have been food he had earlier in the day or the day before, and either he or someone else who touched it didn't wash their hands.

Lilalena
03-06-11, 09:53 AM
Well, I feel better today :)

My personal opinion was it was the pizza - for whatever reasons. But, I can get sick even eating a McDonalds burger value meal. About the only thing I am OK with eating in terms of fast food is Subway. I don't know why? I suppose I'm weak when it comes to food.



This happened to me some years ago, and it turned out I had become allergic to the kind of cheese that fast food chains use, except for the kind used by Subway.

Stryder
03-06-11, 03:13 PM
Incidentally Vegetarians can actually be prone to a form of food poisoning brought on if their food was contaminated by Meat preparation being done in the same area. This is caused by the fact that Vegetarians will have an absence of a variant of bacteria in the intestine that meat eaters have. (The bacteria is responsible for creating B12 which Vegetarians are deficient in.)

To be honest "Fastfood" is always likely to be dodgy, (especially Kebab places) especially if they are dealing in a variety of different meats or dairy products. It's always a good idea to give Mayo a wide birth unless it's absolutely fresh.

As for Pizza poisoning, if it wasn't the cheese (which wouldn't only likely cause an effect if you are lactose intolerant) then the culprit was likely any meat topping you might of had, this could be down to the age of the meat, the quality of the meat or if the guy that prepared it hadn't washed his hands and had a particular bacteria strain (perhaps even diarrhoea himself)

ULTRA
03-06-11, 03:39 PM
Porridge is a great source of soulable fibre, and is banal enough to leave most peoples' gut unmolested. I usually put a dollop of local honey in mine as it increases ones' immune system due to the pollen in it.

I've always found slaughterhouses to be pretty disgusting places and generally wash any meat before preparing it. Out here in the country we often get rabbits and pheasants that have been run down. I used to shoot, but with my bones being quite bad, I can't be bothered lugging a rifle around the countryside anymore. Although duck shot and roasted over a campfire takes some beating.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-06-11, 06:13 PM
Food poisioning bacteria usually have an incubation period of days and not hours.


If the bacteria in question have already produced an enterotoxin, the toxin elicits food poisoning symptoms in four hours or less. There are several toxin-producing bacteria that can contaminate food.

spanglo
03-08-11, 03:54 PM
The OP could have Gluten sensitivity.

Fraggle Rocker
03-14-11, 02:14 PM
Gastroenteritis is usually caused by a virus anyway.Escheria coli bacteria are a common cause of gastroenteritis.

clusteringflux
03-15-11, 08:16 AM
Last year I ate some 3 day old chilli. Big mistake. It was the last thing I ate for nearly 5 weeks. I thought I was gonna die. I just couldn't keep anything in except for tea. I had to train my gut to accept food again. An altogether unpleasant experience. You have my sympathies in your distress.
My poisoning came on fairly rapidly as I recall, though I don't know what kind of bug it was. I am so much more careful with food now than I used to be, it's not nice at all.


/scratches head.

That's when it tastes the best, isn't it?
I mean where was this chili for three days,on the dashboard of your car?

Fraggle Rocker
05-04-11, 10:38 AM
As the link I provided stated, a quick onset is indicative of a chemical toxin in the food, not bacterial infection. And I have not heard of case where a chemical toxins would cause the runs. Diarrhea is not consistent with chemical exposure. Diarrhea is a symptom of bacterial or viral infection.My wife and I both came down with the symptoms--pain and diarrhea--about six hours after eating at Colonel Sanders, and they continued for about 24 hours more. I sent KFC a polite letter asking for reimbursement for the lost wages plus the cost of the chicken, and included the receipt. We got a response so fast that the flap on our mailbox still hasn't stopped spinning. They sent a check for the exact amount I requested, and on the back above the space for endorsement it included language stating that our acceptance of the money comprised express agreement with the terms of the settlement and that we thereby relinquished any claim to future damages. They must have made a lot of people sick that night.

In tropical areas, amoebic dysentery is the most common cause of food poisoning. My wife caught it twice in one trip to Mexico; I got it once in a separate trip without her. In all three cases we were able to trace our eating pattern back to the offending meal made with tap water (slapping our foreheads for being so inattentive) and symptoms started within four to six hours. I was able to medicate mine with clioquinol (trademark Enterovioforma), but she had to be hospitalized both times. It was interesting to discover that the Mexican health care system was utterly superb--and not just for tourists.
And it looks like the pizza was the last food item he ate prior to the symptoms showing up. But that does not mean the pizza was the offending vector.I once caught campylobacter and we never did figure out where it came from. That was nasty, a one-week course of antibiotics.
Commercial yoghurt is pasteurised and the active organisms are killed in them.These days in the USA plenty of yogurt is marketed with active cultures. Doctors prescribe it if you've taken a course of antibiotics that killed off your intestinal flora, although they will send you out for lactobacillus capsules if it was a heavy dose. Many of us routinely give yogurt to our dogs, since commercial dog food is loaded up with preservatives that kill off the culture in their pathetically small gut, not to mention the antibiotics that all factory-farmed meat its saturated with in the USA. Dog stool will kill the nitrogen-fixing bacteria in your lawn and sterilize the soil so nothing will grow but weeds, so you should never leave it there to soak in. This is why dogs eat stool, they're desperate to replenish their flora. Although to be fair all canids do that, they're almost the only predators who eat the intestines of their prey including the contents, and will even scavenge the intestines other predators leave behind. Their guts are so short, and their body chemistry so hostile to bacteria, that food passes through too quickly to rot.

Cowboy
05-05-11, 02:53 AM
My body doesn't handle dairy products particularly well. But every once in a while I'll gorge on something that contains dairy because it's worth it to have ice cream. :D

Cifo
05-05-11, 06:54 AM
*runs to toilet*


lactose intolerant


dairy products


My blood relatives and I have had long and "arduous" experiences with "lactose intolerance" (aka lactase deficiency), and I know the reaction is anywhere from an hour to a day or so. Lactase deficiency can cause bloating, cramps and diarrhea, but as far as the people I know who have it, not nausea or vomiting. And, apparently, the body can begin to produce lactase again (thus not allowing the adverse reactions) because that's what happened to me.

Cowboy
05-06-11, 02:47 AM
My blood relatives and I have had long and "arduous" experiences with "lactose intolerance" (aka lactase deficiency), and I know the reaction is anywhere from an hour to a day or so. Lactase deficiency can cause bloating, cramps and diarrhea, but as far as the people I know who have it, not nausea or vomiting. And, apparently, the body can begin to produce lactase again (thus not allowing the adverse reactions) because that's what happened to me.

Dairy products have never made me vomit, but a bowl of ice cream or a bagel with cream cheese will result in me becoming close friends with the toilet for the next few hours. :shrug:

Ellie
05-06-11, 02:56 AM
I have no idea why, but for some stupid reason, I thought it sounded good to order Dominoes Pizza.

*runs to toilet*

:bawl:


So, I'm sitting there (literally) wondering: Why?!? By the Gods on High, WHY o WHY did I think fast food pizza was a good idea. Not only do I feel sick, I'm extremely exhausted, as if I received zero nutrition. The pizza looked weak and tasted as it looked :(

I can only think the reason why I thought it was a good idea was from childhood experience. I wanted to relive those memories of when we all went as a family to the once a year treat of the local Italian restaurant. The wood stove made fired HUGE pizzas and we loved it! Well, THAT is NOT what I got from my 2 x $10 Dominoes Pizza!

*rushes to toilet*

.... ..... .... ... I've just pitched the pizzas. I hate wasting food, but, I don't think this qualifies as food.....

Dominoes is actually pretty good, though too salty for my own personal tastes since i cut salt out of my diet. I am guessing something was bad in the ingredients or you ordered from the wrong place.

Lets see: Dough, sauce, cheese...:D