I know what you're thinking, no, I don't want to be a cracker. I would not enjoy destroying other people's computers. However, yesterday I read that experienced hackers are actually making very good money working for government organizations or starting their own digital security companies. I'd like to look into that because I enjoy working with computers, and while I don't have any programming experience I can always learn.

I picked up a book at Chapters today, "SAMS Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" and I'll work my way through that. My question is, what would be the best way to learn how to breach firewalls and things like that? My dad knows of two people who own local companies here that have been hacked, so the demand for security testing is quite high. Also, the way I figure it as computers become more and more important security will also become more important. The first step to defeating a threat is to know your enemy, which is what I'm trying to learn.

Anyway, if anyone can give me some good links (or any information) about beginner's hacking, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Read A.S Tanenbaum's Computer Networks, provides nice info on TCP/IP suite.
check out:

http://blacksun.box.sk

a site with great tutorials.be sure not to leave Ankit Fadia tuts,he's an enigmatic 15 yr old on net.knows a hell lot.mail him to learn more.

but CAUTION! never use ready made flooders and nukers,that way you"ll become a lame script kiddo.
Also remember,securing a system from any hacking attacks is far more complicated and challenging then actually cracking it.as i progressed towards the maturity i learned this.I used to Break in regularly in Cisco Routers for high speeds,T1s.But found other great challenges like making trace programs designing firewall through C-socket programming.i designed a software router through the same Csocket programming.

you"ll find that there are loads of material available on net for newbies for hacking.And hackers are nothing but the shit legal Crackers,thats what i dislike.
Today nothing is completely secured,the concept of total security is illusion far from being accomplished.as many of the socket programmers might agree with me that it all depends on Bunch of guy's intellect who are designing the softwares.for security.

Thanks zion. :)

Try morpheus they have a shit load or newbie hacking shit
but otherwise get in touch with me
allabstract@wi.rr.com and I'll give ya the low lowdown

Personally the way I see it is not to become a Hacker or Cracker, it's not necessary. There's already enough people out there with malicious coding skills, The real money as you said is in the ability to patch and Defend.

Even the ability to revive data back from the dead like a pheonix rising. Too much malicious coding and you get things like Code Red, a Hackers smoke screen. Which slows down and crashes the very networks that your transpire to use.

Be as stealthy as you like, but just remember every footprint is still a trace of where you walked. Not to forget new tracing techniques that triangulate you with more information than you get on your mark.

Don't believe your are ever anonymous. Even when the computer is Off.

Stryder,
I am in agreement.Xe,i hold the same opinion as i had expressed earlier.If you really wanna earn a living by becoming a hacker ha,sorry but its not so Kool as you"d expect.you sometimes get busted,sometimes not,its like living in Hell.
;)
but
anyway if you want any help regarding hacking check out,
www.crosswinds.net/hackingtruths.html ;)

bye!

Hey Xel,

did you ever play any hacker wargames?

well check this site out and enjoy hacking LEGALLY!!

www.pulltheplug.com


bye!

No!, check for the game called UPLINK. it is a hacking-simulation game. best to date I think.

check the links below->

http://www.introversion.co.uk

gamespot review (http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,10867,2835507,00.html)


P.S. I cannot enjoy playing it because my old 3dfx doesn't support newest openGL.:( :(

I just called it hacking for lack of a better word. I'm not sure what you would call people that trace hackers and bring them to justice, anti-hackers maybe?

In the mean time, I seem to have pressed some button that I shouldn't have and now all my text in IE is a couple points smaller than it was a minute ago. Any ideas? :o

View->Text Size->Medium

Wow, I feel stupid now :o

Took me a couple of days to figure out what Avatar told you.

Too embarassed to ask for help. :rolleyes:

Take care. ;)

Asking for help and the sharing of knowlege is basically the unspoken truth of the underground. To outsiders we keep our mouths shut but on the inside it's all hell to rise and any information anyone gets, in any way, shape, or form--Is passed to others within 24 hours.

Think about it. Hacking is to learn but not destroy. If we are learning we need to share...

May be giving thread another name like security wouldnt have helped so much as it is now,the attractiveness part of it...isnt it?
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bye!

Here is a link that leads to a bunch of legal hacking wargames, where you get to actually hack into computers with the permission of the owner of the computers, if you can :)

http://www.happyhacker.org/wargame/index.shtml

Reign,

i wanted to mention the site's name but its(Telnet ) not working as it was earlier.,anyway i have done a lot of that in past, kinda fun isnt it?;)

but happy hacker is a great site.
also check out these sites:
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www.newbiesarea.f2s.com/programs.html
www.hackinthebox.org
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bye!

Thanks Zion. I've actually found a new hobby for now, computer generated graphics. My dad bought Photoshop 6 last week for work purposes, I've been learning to use it since then. I also found this great art-type site, www.deviantart.com, which I'm a member of. Some company is offering $500 US to whoever can make them the best logo, I'm trying for that. I have until April 15 to learn how to work this stuff :p

ok I'd like to interject some of my experiences with the underground world of hacking, now I dont claim to be a hacker. My point of view is that you can never call yourself a hacker, although be it in some cases you can. All that is debtable. I will tell you that the worst question in the world is "How do I hack?". In my personal oppionion being a security advisor has got to be one of the worst security related jobs out there. why? one small team of advisors with very good skills going up against a whole generation is just asking for trouble, in other words, your screw up once and your fired. No system on earth is completey secure, all be it that its never been broken into doesnt mean its 100% safe. Now if you want to learn how to "hack" then you have to decide if your really into it on that level. I personally have given it my all because its something that I love to do. It will require alot of time, dont expect to become a "uberhacker" next friday, next month of next year. Ive been learning for about 2 years and I have a very very long way to go. Yes programming is a very much needed skill, understanding the logic and understanding what makes and OS tick. ANY hacker out there will tell you this, and I will tell you. READ READ READ! READ every single text file you can get your hands on, you may not understand everything but late you might. some good sites are textfiles.com , neworder.box.sk , code.box.sk blacksun.box.sk , tlsecurity.net and there are a ton of others. You cat become a hacker just for the fame, actually there is no fame. If you do get fame, then you've been caught, and so called "hackers" that get caught and usually newbie or script kiddies that just want to say they did it. If you've never programmed I dont suggest you start with C++ , beacuase its just a pain in the ass if you've never programmed before. I would reccommend python of php, or even perl to start with. NOT VB! dont start with something that isnt portable, or made by microsoft, vb teaches bad habbits and just sucks. I saw someone reccommended war games, I highly agree. so if you've got a few years to the rest of your life to make the commitment, then have fun!


p.s. learn everything about your own system (if it be windows) before you go trailing off into unix, after all windows is the most widely used servers on the net, and also the most hacked. http://www.alldas.de they archive defaced websites and windows is by far the mose insecure, see for yourself. so a very good understanding of windows first will be a good start, then get into the nitty gritty.

oh yea one more thing. NEVER PAY FOR EXPENSIVE SOFTWARE. I saw you say that your father paid for photoshop 6. yes yes i know warez are illegal, but whose gonna stop me? pesonally im setting up a huge warez site (http://kickme.to/packratwarez) but hey i can practically get anything for free. Why pay $600 for photoshop 6 when you can get that and thousands of dollars worth of software for free. Microsoft XP Pro, FREE! 3D studio max, price tag $1500, FREE! Now does that sound good or what?

Actually, another big reason I want to learn more about hacking is the challenge it presents. I'm the kind of guy who loves challenges, and hacking seems like a pretty big one. It's also a neverending challenge, there's always more to do, always new things to find out.

Thanks for the info everyone, I see I'll be busy for the next 4 weeks reading all this stuff ;)

P.S. is the picture in my siggy working? All I see is an X, but when I put the link into my URL box, go to it, then come back it's there. :bugeye:

Yeah, Zambino is right about the sites that he suggested.

but let me tell you something.as you learn Sockets programming and learn more about protecting your own system,you"ll see that defending is a bigger challenge than destroying shit.

bye!

I figure before I step into this hacker world, I should at least get a decent firewall. While it probably won't stop any of the good hackers, it will at least slow them down enough for me to change my IP address, or if need be, pull the DSL out of the wall :p

What firewall would you recommend? I tried McAfee and I hate it, it slows down my computer so much that 20 minutes of running it on filter mode and I'm out of memory (aparently it uses like 100 megs of RAM or something..).

That site of defaced websites is hilarious :D

Zone Alarm Pro is definetely the best on the market. I have run it through several tests and it passed it all. When someone looks for your comp, it appears to him tht computer is not even connected to net i.e. it is not there.

I would reccomend hack tracer, its a little hard to find beacuse they dont offer a demo. It guards set ports that trojans use and what zone alarm doesnt do, it block alot more incoming connections that zone alaram would let through. I do still reccomend zone alarm, just use both.

oh yea zion is deffinately right, defending is 10 times harder to do than break in, thats why I said have that type of job is crazy, in my opioion anyway..

these will keep ya busy for a while to come:

http://glycol.5u.com/basics.htm
www.thewhitehat.com
www.158inc.com
www.elitehackers.com
www.hackers.com
http://www.psyon.org/archive/index.shtml
http://blacksun.box.sk/tutorials.html
http://www.hackcanada.com/
http://neohacker.co.kr/
http://www.geocities.com/vipersjkworld/zonehax.html
http://www.elfqrin.com/hack/
http://www.glock.co.za/docs/
http://www.nmrc.org/faqs/hackfaq/hackfaq.html#toc29
http://www.mobileworld.org/
http://www.dubois.ws/
www.packetstormsecurity.org
www.blackcode.com
www.insecure.org
http://members.tripod.ca/srdnadbhip2161/Books/
http://www.sfo.com/~mcd/tutorial.html
http://www.free-ed.net/catalog/deptmain.asp?newColl=3&newDept=2
http://www.2600.com/mindex.html
http://www.ilf.net/brotherhood/phreak/
http://www.hackerscatalog.com/
http://www.lordsomer.com/
http://www.linenoise.org/
http://www.l0pht.com/
http://www.deter.com/unix/
http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-19872/hacking.html
http://earthspace.net/jargon/jargon_toc.html#SEC1
http://www.hack.cc/
http://www.proweb.co.uk/~greenway/Main.html
http://www.rootshell.com/
http://www.vicon.net/~bhoover/
http://www.society-of-shadows.com/home.html
http://www.ultranet.ca/mypage/
http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html
http://www.technotronic.com/
http://www.undergroundnews.com/right.htm
http://www.rootshell.com/docs/backdoors.txt
http://www.bon.net/emumania/dream/level.htm
http://hackers.co.za/archive/hacking/
http://www.hideaway.net/index.html
http://www.ntsecurity.net/
http://anon.xg.nu/
http://anonymouse.home.pages.de/
http://www.antionline.com/
http://www.attrition.org/
http://www.cert.org/
http://www.checksum.org/
http://www.idca.com/~thesandman/
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet-by-group/alt.2600/
http://www.dsinet.org/
http://www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/faq.html
http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html
http://www.utexas.edu/cc/faqs/unix/
http://www.flashback.se/arkiv/
http://www.hackersclub.com/km/frontpage/
http://www.hackershomepage.com/
http://hackerzlair.org/
http://www.warezone.com/hacking.html
http://hackingtruths.box.sk/
http://newdata.box.sk/neworder/docs/hacking_unix.txt
http://www.hackernews.com/
http://www.happyhacker.org/
http://www.xs4all.nl/~l0rd/
http://www.hack.vuurwerk.nl/
http://develop.mainquad.com/web/r/ramiz/
http://www.hps.nu/security.html/
http://summer.studentenweb.org/LittlePanda/mail/compose_no_login.html
http://mail-abuse.org/tsi/
http://www.estnet.ee/mart/hack/
http://uptime.netcraft.com/
http://neworder.box.sk/
http://www.nmrc.org/
http://www.coolguy.demon.co.uk/handbook/hack.htm
http://www.goodnet.com/~jeriii/info/pchack.htm
http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers
http://proxys4all.cgi.net/
http://newdata.box.sk/neworder/docs/unix_bible.zip
http://morehouse.org/hin/hindex.htm
http://www.securityfocus.com/
http://www.securityportal.com/
http://grc.com
http://lib.ru/SECURITY/hackalot.txt
http://www.accessorl.net/~cyberwar/nethacks.html
http://cgi.spaceports.com:81/
http://www.theargon.com/
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/eff_privacy_top_12.html
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/
http://www.commodon.com/threat/
http://www.indiana.edu/~uitspubs/b017/
http://www.ugu.com/
http://www.geek-girl.com/
http://www.albany.edu/~csi205/htm/unix.html
http://www.mono.org/~arny/
http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/usail/
http://members.tripod.com/AMIRANJITH/hacking.htm
http://hackerhomeland.cjb.net/
http://infosyssec.org/
http://kryptographical.r-fx.net/
http://eyeonsecurity.net/news/
http://www.blister-tech.com/
http://www.webattack.com/
http://www.hackingexposed.com/tools/tools.html
http://www.accessorl.net/~cyberwar/hacker.html
http://www.hackerwhacker.com/
http://www.secure-me.net/
http://www.firewall.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/security
http://www.ca.com/virusinfo/virusalert.htm
http://www.norman.com/virus_info/virus_descriptions.shtml
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo
http://www.viruslist.com/eng/default.asp
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/geek/ajax/index.html
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/index.html
http://www.boxnetwork.net/
http://www.ddj.com/topics/
http://www.hack3r.com/
http://www.tlsecurity.net/main.htm
http://htp.stormloader.com/starthak.txt
http://www.htmlsource.f2s.com



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as for a firewall, I now use sygate because I had problems with zone alarm a while ago, it's got a built in tracer so you can just click on the intruder in the log on the screen and it will back trace the address for you...the only problem is it only has a trial version for free

and for an even cooler tracer go to www.neotrace.com and download neo-trace pro, it will show you the location of the intruder if you type in his ip number

I actually tried the trial of neotrace a while ago, it's a neat program, I'll have to see if I can register it.

I know this may be a stupid question, but can someone get your IP address through a chat program like MSN messanger or ICQ just by talking to you? My friend was telling me about how a friend of a friend of a friend's cousin was getting people's IP's on ICQ, I'm a little reluctant to believe him, simply because he doesn't know anything about computers and the whole friend of a friend of a friend thing.

Thanks for the websites nanok, looks like I'll be very busy for the next 3 years or so ;)

Also, I was wondering, what is the difference between Windows, Linux, Unix and RedHat? I know Linux and Unix(?) are open sourced, and I've used Linux. Just was wondering what the big difference is between these OS's.

UNIX is just a trade mark.
RED-HAT manufactures LINUX,a company with great future.

LINUX is UNIX basically as i understand,the structure is similiar.
Windows is DOS(DISK OPERATING SYSTEM)
The devices in Linux are in form of Files.

bye!

Originally posted by Xelios
I know this may be a stupid question, but can someone get your IP address through a chat program like MSN messanger or ICQ just by talking to you? My friend was telling me about how a friend of a friend of a friend's cousin was getting people's IP's on ICQ, I'm a little reluctant to believe him, simply because he doesn't know anything about computers and the whole friend of a friend of a friend thing.


Yes you can get IP,nuke them,shutdown their computer etc etc...

Earlier ICQ server had a big problem.while whenever a web page at port no 5190 was opened through telnet,and an invalid command was given,invalid in the sense of not being HTML one,the server simply used to crash and go offline,the problem however was repaired.if you need some programs for ICQ IP-FLOODING,you can download it from net easily,but remember that"ll only make you Lame,try something on your own and that"ll boost your confidence.



bye!

Hey Nanok,

Nice compiled list buddy...

thanks...

bye!:)

I'd like to interject my comments about your question on the differences in unix and linux and redhat. First off red hat is a distribution of linux, its the easiest oh any version to install and its also the most insecure, i think openbsd is the most secure os out there right now. linux is basicly unix, linus travolda or seomthing like that (i forgot his last name ) just change around unix and now there are alot of different version that are completely free and open source.

Oh yea about neo-trace, thats the same program I was talking about earlier, hac tracer, it can geographically trace the person who was trying to connect to you. its a good program, works well for me, although I rarely use it.

Xelios...

RedHat is a linux 'Distribution' there are many ditributions of linux made by different companies like debian ( www.debian.org) and Mandrake Linux (http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/)

Linux is open source, however unix is not open source as there are also commercial versions of unix.

Have a look at www.unix.com if you want to learn more about linux and unix.

Caldera is also Kool.


bye!

Hewo everybody, i sorta just stumbled across this web forum thingy, and i like all the boards it has, mainly all of my interests :p
I was wondering if anyone knows of any good 3D Graphic/Mutlimedia programs that are any good, i have 3Dsmax,bryce,xara,ray dream,light wave,poser, and i'll have maya 4 pretty soon, anyone know of any other software progs that are as good as these if not better?
Oh yea, and Xel, learning to prog is pretty easy, you just need to devote alot of time into reading those books, you should get MS Visual Studio 6.0, that program helps ALOT, and get "Learning to program in C++" thats also a pretty good book, it explains lots.
Hmm... Xel that logo contest thingy, is it "any" kind of logo, like, from any kind of program? O.o
And umm, to put a picture in my icon is it the thing at the bottom that says "Attach File" or is that something that attaches to this board?:confused:? I'll check this board every other day or so, ciao

Welcome to sciforums :)

There's actually a good website with all kinds of info on digital art contests and lots of other stuff. www.deviantart.com

A lot of the time they have contests in the news on the main page.

haha, I guess its time for my input. Sorry guys, I have not been here for a very long time. Most of you I still dont know, there are a lot of new people here since exosci, or sciforums as you like to call it now first started. Well, hacking in programing. its that simple. A hacker is not just any programmer though, it is a extrememly talented programer, one that can do anything with a keyboard and compiler. Breaking into other computers? That is not hacker, that is what some hackers do, thought I wouldnt consider most of them hackers, since hackers code to help, not to destroy. as for security, system security is very important, most people who want to get into it, no matter what they say (i.e. "I just want to learn how they do it" or "I just want to be secure myself") just want to break into their friends computer and make his cdrom open, and a little black screen pop up telling them that they are now in the matrix. Trust me, I have been there. If you want to get into computers, then I suggest getting a few more comptuers than your mommys gateway. reading old computer "underground" txt files, doesnt really help you at all, in fact, I think I have found 1 thing that even still worked. (redboxing and wardialing). I suggest starting your own home network, setting up a webserver, dns, mail, you know.. the basics. have them all running a flavor of unix, though I despise roothat, I mean redhat, you might want to start with it. Start learning C/c++. Learn how to accually use linux. learn how to change stuff, how to cheat the system, figureing out little hacks(when I say hacks, I do not mean getting root, I mean ways to make the computer think one thing so you can do something you are not soposed to, like scsi simulation w/ a mount point or whatever you want. )

Hmm... for those of you who already have linux, you might want to try BSD, it is very nice, I like it a lot. though, my dad took away all my boxen cept for this laptop(pII300mhz) and my 500mhz cely, and I dont run it on anything, I had it on another laptop for a long time(openBSD). I cannot imagine putting bsd on anything over 300 mhz. Ok, I am kinda rambling so I will wrap it up.

system cracking is bad, it can get you in a lot of trouble. You are not untracable, you are anything but. it is really easy, so you are not really accomplishing anything by breaking into some server running a outdated version of telnetd.(should be running sshd anyways). Computers are fun, very fun, good way to comunicate and learn. possible source of income. If you have money, please buy me a g4 powerbook. if you do want to learn about security, learn about computers first, you need to know how to use a computer in order to exploit it.

Thanks for the info Dexter :)

I downloaded BlackICE Defender, and after running it for about 20 minutes heres what I'm seeing:

Attack-Intruder-Count
UDP Port Probe-157.242.91.***-5
TCP Port Probe-157.242.91.***-3
HTTP Port Probe-BLAINE-2
TCP Port Probe-wlrd13-230-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU-3
TCP Port Probe-c108-bea24.uibk.ac.at-4
TCP Port Probe-THADALMN1-4
TCP Port Probe-157.242.91.***-3

The stars are actually numbers, just thought I'd leave out the last bit. Is this normal? I mean, I'm getting scanned on almost every access point to my computer. =/

I once had Blackice, but it turned out that the ruddy thing had a trojan in it....

What good is a firewall when it turns out to be a Backdoor???

Anyway looking at the attacks you seemed to have, some of them are quite natural... yes they are the reminants of Code Red and Nimda.... Which can still be found on peoples Windows systems because they haven't turned off their IIS servers.

I worked out that there is a possibility that hackers are utilising these I-worms by placing a firewall in an OS like Linux which is uneffected, and placing an open infected IIS server on a machine behind it.

Then the machine spouts out loads of port 80 HTTP attempts to gain access to other IIS machines.

The way I see it all these I-worms are like an automated smoke screen to hide up the true attackers of systems that are doing it manually.

I'm still trying to develop some method of sending a file back to the I-worm ridden system and forcing a TROJAN PATCH... YES... I'm talking about WHITE VIRII, viruses that probe for your faults, bugs and security holes and does it's best to fix them.

This is the future of Virii coding.

Well, I've checked my system for the common trojans like BackOrifice and such and haven't found any. I'm up to 66 "suspicious attacks", mostly UDP and TCP port probes. A lot of them seem to be coming from the same 3 or 4 people over and over again. So far that's all I've seen though, port probes. Guess I shouldn't be too worried just yet.

See if you can get hold of the actual port numbers that were probed. Otherwise all those probes could just be people trying t oget your netbios from port 137-9.

(By the way netbios if you don't know, gives out information like:
What IP your computer's been assigned, What name you've given it and what group it's been given in Windows [Unless you have patches]

on a linux system it will give the name you've given the machine and/or the ip, I think it's similar with MAC.

There is also a possibility of retreiving your LAN adapter address etc as well.

Some servers use this info so they know who they are talking to, others do when you hit a site and they show you the "Info" that they can gather.

(It's like turning of the identd.conf for TIME isn't a good idea when you have a system within a network, as they tend to outsync.)

Stryder wrote: “I'm still trying to develop some method of sending a file back to the I-worm ridden system and forcing a TROJAN PATCH... YES... I'm talking about WHITE VIRII, viruses that probe for your faults, bugs and security holes and does it's best to fix them.”

Be careful of unintended consequences. The best of motives may lead to significant harm. A user whose computer fails after being infected with the “white” virus isn’t gonna be happy. (The virus might be blamed even if the computer failed for reasons unrelated to the infection.)

You could say that about any "AUTOMATIC UPDATE" function that programs do have. Afterall your system might be working perfectly, and because of a time-related matter (A programmer cuts a corner) your given an unstable product that malforms your Memory address and crashes your OS every 5 minutes if it's loaded at startup.

The idea of these WHITE VIRII was to attack the systems spouting out I-WORMS. The IIS Servers that haven't been plugged. It's very simple that even the WHITE VIRII doesn't actually have to do anything other than bring up a .vbs ALERT screen saying....




ALERT!:
It's been brought to our attention that your computer has caught the Harbinger Destructo-worm. Please update your system security patches A.S.A.P.

Your system's OS is Windoze 2010
The necessary security patchs can be downloaded from:
windozeundergrate.microslop.com

or you can get the standalone patch from:
thisreallycool.unmadesite.com

on the warez subject, you know where to find the full version of uplink or the addons?? i also clicked on your link and its down. where's your site?

just a thought stryder,
did Phillip K. Dick not write Do Andriods Dream of Electric Sheep?
which was then changed to Blade Runner when it became a movie?

P.K. Dick did write "Do androids dream of Electric sheep and yes it was turned into the film Bladerunner, (It was just shorter quoting it as Bladerunner, and I did rip it from the cinematics)

Infact my quote misses ".. Today's a good day to die", which I've rigged to my recycle bin for a laugh. (That and "Information Overload" from Henry Rollins, in Johny Mneumonic for windows errors, so it's always being quoted)

good good good,
i have meet very few people who know this,
very few people seem to realize how hollywood plays a sort of media god,
but that is good good good.

very nice to meet you

Originally posted by SmokeyD726
on the warez subject, you know where to find the full version of uplink or the addons?? i also clicked on your link and its down. where's your site?

can download uplink through KaZaA, but I suggest you buy it. It's a damn good game and the company which makes it is small (wouldn't have said this if you asked for a WinXp copy;))

I received my UPLINK copy today, it comes in a neat plastic box, with dynamically created artwork, an it's even vacuum packed.

Very nifty, and very inexpensive, if more games companies produced their games at this sort of price, I would definitely buy more games.

Yea we can see ur new pic

Welcome to here Hacktech.

hey all, just wondering how to hack in to hotmail accounts. That's as far as I'll go I think it all seems so complicated. Email back or add me to msn or icq messenger

People always ask the same question:

How can I get access to hotmail accounts?

Answer: get a warrant :p

Simply, people don't usually Want to do such tasks because there is no reason to, well unless your trying to bring the whole of the Micro$oft empire down single handedly, but where you might seem a hero to some uneducated script kiddies, you'll seem a complete terrorist to a bunch of countries.

There is no reason to gain access to e-mail accounts, in some respects how would you feel if someone got hold of your snail mail?

Anybody that has enough talent to do something like break into a hotmail account won't be doing so purely because they have bigger fish to fry and better challenges.

Answer simply, people won't tell you how to, you want to learn, then learn how to look at what hotmail does and how it communicates with a persons computer.

Other than that, Welcome to the board and try not to get to overhanded with asking about "hacking".

Hack.. I've never liked that term. The dictionary defines hack as: v. intr.
To chop or cut something by hacking.
Informal.
To write or refine computer programs skillfully.
To use one's skill in computer programming to gain illegal or unauthorized access to a file or network: hacked into the company's intranet.
To cough roughly or harshly.

Let's hope that all of you could-be hackers don't start fuckin' with other peoples stuff.

ive never hacked in my life but i would really liketo learn. basically for my personal security since lately a lot of viruses have been going srould. can any one help me?

Originally posted by crazy gal
ive never hacked in my life but i would really liketo learn. basically for my personal security since lately a lot of viruses have been going srould. can any one help me?

Yes get a virusscanner :bugeye:

i dont know what a virus scanner is duh! like i sed i dont know much. id like to learn though it cud be fun!

Originally posted by crazy gal
i dont know what a virus scanner is duh! like i sed i dont know much. id like to learn though it cud be fun!

Virusscanner scans incoming files if they might be a virus, it's not hacking.

virus check (http://security.symantec.com/ssc/home.asp?j=1&%20j=1&pkj=RNTYRSJRFSKLUKUMXCC&langid=ie&venid=sym&plfid=22[/url)

ok thanx but i still would like to learn how to hack. would it be better for me to talk to a hacker from my town and learn cas i do wanna. basically im horrendous with computers but the 21stcentury is dragging me kicking and screaming into it and i wanna learn for the fun of it. i lyk challenges and hacking would be a grrrrrrrr8 one. LOL

Originally posted by crazy gal
ok thanx but i still would like to learn how to hack. would it be better for me to talk to a hacker from my town and learn cas i do wanna. basically im horrendous with computers but the 21stcentury is dragging me kicking and screaming into it and i wanna learn for the fun of it. i lyk challenges and hacking would be a grrrrrrrr8 one. LOL

1. I doubt he/she will learn it to you
2. Why do you want to hack anyway?
3. If you already suck with puters then hacking is for now out of the question

o0k now i feel stupidif ne1read that first message that im editing.
1) yes i think he wud hes keen to help others and hes quite good.one problem hes me ex were not on speaking term
2)like i sed its a challenge
3)give me a few months im a quck learner.

?? I'm not in a bad mood i was just telling you how it is. Good luck with learning computers

u know its ok saying good luck but a bit of help from ppl never went amiss u know. books are so garbled nowadays its easier to learn from ppl.

Originally posted by crazy gal
u know its ok saying good luck but a bit of help from ppl never went amiss u know. books are so garbled nowadays its easier to learn from ppl. Ok what do you want to learn how to hack for? Gaining entrance on other peoples machines or to read and improve coding on programs?

read and improve mostly im not interested in destroying other ppls work etc. just securing my own.

Originally posted by crazy gal
read and improve mostly im not interested in destroying other ppls work etc. just securing my own.

Then you need to learn programming languages

programming in C (http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/bwk-tutor.html)

There is a tutorial for the C programming language

I didnt realise how stupid i was until i saw this forum. Can someone plz tell me a decent warez site becuase ive tried downloadin stuff off kazaa and it sucks. And i would like to create computer graphics does anyone know a good program and where i can get it (website not shop im poor!) and what do you do c programing in - is it worth learning?

Hi guys,



I see alot of good talk about consolidating skillz and the responsability of knowledge, but what about the true fact that knowledge is power?

get to the point troj!


well here goes..... Have any of you guys ever thought about rewards for your skills?.............you guys are skilled with infiltrating systems/prohibiting access to systems...............coding complex programs that devestate and marvell. Now compare these abilities to that of the drunken immbosiles that are currently employed by many top IT firms and what can you smell.........................................evol oution!!!!

It doesnt take a genius to work out the message but it will to cut the grade.

interested in testing your abilities and getting hands on with seom project work..........

wanna work with people that share your keen eye for accuracey and innvocative design...............look no further

Originally posted by troj
It doesnt take a genius to work out the message but it will to cut the grade.

interested in testing your abilities and getting hands on with seom project work..........

wanna work with people that share your keen eye for accuracey and innvocative design...............look no further

K, what's in it for us? Where is the working place? What kind of positions are you looking to fill?

Just a small point that should be mentioned:

"Hacking" is not limited to circumventing security protocols but also the manipulation of already coded software to be "tailored" or "re-engineered" for your own needs.

For all those people that ask "How do you hack?", the simple answer is this: Don't download any programs created by other people to do a task, "Write your own!".

The only way to learn is to do it yourself rather than become one of that which can only be termed as "Script kiddie".

Don't be reliant upon other peoples programs, Afterall you wouldn't be classed a Chef if all you do is slam an already prepared meal (from a shop) into an oven and cook it.

As for "What can you do with the skills you learn?", well in the most cases there are multiple qualifications that have a small preportion devoted to just security analysis.

It's not to prompt you to get a job in corporate security (afterall to get a job just about security means you have to be good, in the sense that if you circumvent a systems security you would have to use the bare minimum tools without the near commercially available trojans/exploits)

When you hear all those stories of "hacker going corporate", note this was when that sector had lapse security due to the qualifications of the day neglecting the security sector.

So all you budding "Security hackers" should probably think about a second job just incase you don't capture the right attention and your skills don't cut the mustard.

As for questions like "What programming language should I learn?", that is totally down to what area you want to play with.
If your completely M$ orientated then go with Visual Basic and Visual C++. (Which is just M$'s version of a C++ kit)

I would say that most opt for real C++ (without the Visual), however there are other languages like Delphi, Python and Perl.

Not to forget Assembly which means you could write your own OS kernels and build your own drivers.

Your also best trying to gain a Library of source material, buy books from secondhand bookshops and ebay.

When you start writing programs keep them neat and tidy, detail what each thing does with notes inside the program as doing so will help you be more effective if you ever code anything as apart of a team effort.
(also if your memory is as good as mine, putting such notes in helps you when you go back to your old programs and re-utilise the methods you've learnt in any new source.)

Hope that helps clear a few things up

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I needed a smile today and you gave me one with your reply.
Thanks

:D

I didnt realise how stupid i was until i saw this forum. Can someone plz tell me a decent warez site becuase ive tried downloadin stuff off kazaa and it sucks. And i would like to create computer graphics does anyone know a good program and where i can get it (website not shop im poor!) and what do you do c programing in - is it worth learning?

:eek:
And I thought I was lost in here searching for info on how to hack my judicial sytem and erase my name. But now I don' t feel lost at all.

Thanks.

Oh, Try Photoshop, or Jasc Paint Shop Pro, and read read read first before you attemmpt to change anything in computer that y0ou are not sure of.

Good luck.

One of the video channels provided by the latest Winamp is about hacking (interspersed within some anime). If you are so inclined see if you can find it. They have an interview with the most infamous hacker of all time (who evaded the FBI for many years with false IDs), a review of his major book on the subject and some demonstrations of hacking into wireless networks, one of the major dangers, as well as password cracking. Some of the advice for staying out of trouble while behind bars was interesting too. :cool:

Hacking" is not limited to circumventing security protocols but also the manipulation of already coded software to be "tailored" or "re-engineered" for your own needs.

No! ... No! No!
that is Cracking! :( :mad:

we have gone through this several times i thought strydie!



:(

bye!

I actually tried the trial of neotrace a while ago, it's a neat program, I'll have to see if I can register it.

I know this may be a stupid question, but can someone get your IP address through a chat program like MSN messanger or ICQ just by talking to you? My friend was telling me about how a friend of a friend of a friend's cousin was getting people's IP's on ICQ, I'm a little reluctant to believe him, simply because he doesn't know anything about computers and the whole friend of a friend of a friend thing.

Thanks for the websites nanok, looks like I'll be very busy for the next 3 years or so ;)

Also, I was wondering, what is the difference between Windows, Linux, Unix and RedHat? I know Linux and Unix(?) are open sourced, and I've used Linux. Just was wondering what the big difference is between these OS's.

If useing windows you can go to msdos or command prompt and type "netstat -A" and if someone is talking to you on ICQ you can see there ip# there.

Anyone know how to crack into secured wireless network for war driving??

Try going to a 2600 meet you phreak. :P

I'm going to have to close this topic down too, before it becomes criticised too much.