http://www.australian-news.com.au/China2.htm

Left-wing hypocrites attack Bush while ignoring China's genocide of Tibet

Elizabeth Krantz

On October 24 more than 2,000 noisy demonstrators, angrily protesting at George W. Bush's Australian visit,* clashed with police while shouting anti-American slogans. The unruly mob was outraged that the world's largest democracy had dared to free 22 million Iraqis from a brutal dictatorship. They were incensed that the democratically elected head of the world's leading democracy was to address the Australian parliament.

The next day the unelected leader of the world's largest totalitarian regime china, a regime that has presided over the genocide of Tibet, a regime that, according to Amnesty International, executes 2,000 of its citizens annually, a regime that threatens to invade the democratic sovereign state of Taiwan, addressed the Australian parliament.

The previous day's protestors were nowhere to be seen. Curious.
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Hilarious i find it, they jump on any peace bandwagon going, then the party usually ends with some hash, and a punch up.


I find left wingers, are the most violent & angry people, on this planet you sit on your high horse, looking down on everybody else telling us were all racists, and you are the good guys.

Yet you left wingers, are the ones who attack abortion clinics, attack mcdonalds, attack laboratories that do experiments on animals.

Do you realise how violent you are, do you realise that every drug or cosmetic, you apply to yourself has been tested on animals, you are such *ucking hypocrites.

Nearly every violent rally in europe, or america, leftwingers are the people behind it, it all starts off with some bollocks peace rally, or capitalism rally, then you leftwingers finish it with a good free for all fight with the police, and then you attack mcdonalds.

VIOLENCE IS NOT A TAP, YOU TURN ON & OFF WHEN YOU LEFTWINGERS, SHOW VIOLENCE AT RALLIES, YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR TRUE NATURE, WHICH IS A VIOLENT NATURE.

Leftwingers in this forum, you have run nearly a dozen threads on the hurricanes in america, yet you have ignored the pakistan earthquake, a thousand dead in america or so, over 50,000 dead in pakistans earthquake, so are you not practising racism by ignoring the pakistan earthquake, you seem not in the slightest bit interested in discussing it.

do you see what hypocrites you are?
Right wingers are against drugs, yet left wing politicians, are all for relaxing drug laws.

Laugh, you demonstrate against bush in australia, The next day the unelected leader of the world's largest totalitarian regime china, a regime that has presided over the genocide of Tibet, a regime that, according to Amnesty International, executes 2,000 of its citizens annually, a regime that threatens to invade the democratic sovereign state of Taiwan,

yet you left wingers of the world, ignore this chinese dictator, a chinese government that is responsible for more crimes against its people, than the entire world put together.

The trouble with left wingers is, you guys like to jump on the fashionable band wagon, whether its anti-america, or anti-bush.
It is not fashionable to attack china or to be bothered about pakistan after all there muslims, do you see how racist you are, you are all attacking white countries or white leaders, but you ignore poblems in non white countries.

In africa its always the white man to blame for it all, its not hip to blame the coloured man for anything, its always the ex colonial master to blame.

Right wingers see life as it is, left wingers see life on someone elses fashionable bandwagon.

i would have protested china. i hate those assholes,not only are they a huge dictatership butRICH REPUBLICANS cant seem to send them our jobs fast enough.fuck both of them in their stupid asses.

I didn't care when we attacked Iraq, actually, even though I am a leftist. China is a far different story. As you know, china has a fairly large nuclear capability. If we attack China, or Pakistan or North Korea, we would be looking at nuclear winter...a prospect that does not sit well with me. Iraq did not have any WMDs, I knew that from the beginning. Other countries do, however, and they will use them if we pursue an act of war against them.

I didn't care when we attacked Iraq, actually, even though I am a leftist. China is a far different story. As you know, china has a fairly large nuclear capability. If we attack China, or Pakistan or North Korea, we would be looking at nuclear winter...a prospect that does not sit well with me. Iraq did not have any WMDs, I knew that from the beginning. Other countries do, however, and they will use them if we pursue an act of war against them.
Left wingers are against, any country holding nuclear weapons, they want us all to give them up, but what they can not get into there tiny brains is that nuclear weapons have been keeping the peace, for over 50 years, without them there would have been at least another 3 world wars.

China would have invaded japan & taiwan a long time of go, if america did not have nukes, russia would have invaded all of europe, if the french and uk did not have nukes.

The policies of left wingers, are pathetic relaxed drug laws, nuclear disarmament, bankrolling corrupt third world countries, with blank cheques.

If you see a free Tibet bumper sticker on a car it is a safe bet the drivers are lefties. Only the left cares about Tibet. Also when Saddam was killing Kurds only the left cared.
Your wrong about the american left.

Yes there are a few screwball anarchists at protests. There are also some whiny people who use the police to play out there anger at their fathers. These guys scream at the police and then the police smash them with their batons. It's just a stupid dance.

At American protests when violence happens it's the police being violent to the protesters. The American left is filled with people who don't like violence. You are wrong about the hypocrisy.

Left wingers do sit on their high horse, looking down on everybody else telling you all that your bad and that left wingers are the good guys; it's rude and obnoxious and will not win friends but it is not violent and is not any ruder than how the right treats the left.

Tibet is a part of China just as California is a part of America. The fact that they were conquered land is history.

I wonder: Are we Americans going to give up 1/3 of the States - back to the Native Americans?

How about give California back to Mexico?

Oh…. that’s totally different.

Australians – are you going to give up 1/3 of AU to the Aboriginals?

New Zealanders – are you going to give up 1/3 of NZ to the Moiré?

Or even better, how about give it all back and move back to Europe? Or better yet, Arabs can give back Iraq Egypt and North Africa and the Japanese can give back Japan to the Ainu and bla bla bla bla …..

Tibet is China now and that’s that.

You know though, I always find it interesting, the Europeans conquered almost every square inch of the planet – killing anyone who stood in their way. They traded in humans at an unprecedented level. Hell, every single last Native of Tasmania was shot dead or died alone. Presently we’re invading and killing tens of thousands of Iraqis. We’ve also tortured and killed Iraqis and Afghani – some completely innocent - some maybe not – but all illegally.

And I hear someone say China executes 2000 people/year. Well, lets put this in perspective.

China = (2000/1,300,000,000)100 = 0.000015%
Texas (2003) = (13/20,851,820)= 0.00011%

Texas killed an order of magnitude more people than China

Interesting huh?

I think we should look to clean our own back yards before we worry about someone else’s. Incidentally, prior to China conquering Tibet, slavery was the norm there. Everything has a story, it just depends on which one you want to tell.

BAD BUSH FOR INVADING IRAQ!

It's not like Clinton ever accused Saddam of having WoMD. It's not like Clinton ever engaged in 'Operation Desert Fox', or drew up the 'Iraqi Liberation Act'. Oh, and Clinton didn't dare enforce the sanctions on Iraq, preventing the Iraqi people from receiving food and medicine.

Funny how liberals attack Bush, but when someone criticizes Clinton, they squeal 'Clinton lied, but no-one died!"

Stupid liberal retards. If their grasp on their history was as good as their grasp on their dick, they might actually be worth listening to.

Michael, here is a thing: The law is whatever enough people say it is.

Everyone know how bad the Chinese are with human rights, why does Bush ignore it would be a better question. But fewer people are aware of Bush's lies. Furthermore, as leader of the US, he should be an example of fairness and diplomacy, which he is not.


Yet you left wingers, are the ones who attack abortion clinics, attack mcdonalds, attack laboratories that do experiments on animals.
Well, no, a few right-wingers attack abortion clinics, and most left-wingers don't attack anything. A few ELF and PETA people do invade laboratories, but they aren't typical.


Do you realise how violent you are, do you realise that every drug or cosmetic, you apply to yourself has been tested on animals, you are such *ucking hypocrites.
That is no longer the case, I use Tom's of Maine products, which are never tested on animals.


Nearly every violent rally in europe, or america, leftwingers are the people behind it, it all starts off with some bollocks peace rally, or capitalism rally, then you leftwingers finish it with a good free for all fight with the police, and then you attack mcdonalds.
No, it's usually a few anarchists that start it, and they are probably agents for the right, it's happened before during peaceful protests against racial discrimination in the south, Memphis, to be exact.


Leftwingers in this forum, you have run nearly a dozen threads on the hurricanes in america, yet you have ignored the pakistan earthquake, a thousand dead in america or so, over 50,000 dead in pakistans earthquake, so are you not practising racism by ignoring the pakistan earthquake, you seem not in the slightest bit interested in discussing it.
Don't be retarted, we are mad at the federal response in our country. We aren't responsible for Pakistanis, although I did suggest that helping them is money well spent in the propaganda war on terror.


Right wingers see life as it is, left wingers see life on someone elses fashionable bandwagon.
Right wingers habitually ignore the facts. For instance, facts pointing to the unreliability of intelligence used to justify the Iraq war. Remember the footballer who was hyped as a war hero- Pat Tillman? Turns out he was used as a propaganda tool, he was killed by friendly fire, futhermore, he thought the Iraq war was "fucking illegal".

Crawl out from under your self-righteous rock and see the light, the left is right.

BAD BUSH FOR INVADING IRAQ!

It's not like Clinton ever accused Saddam of having WoMD. It's not like Clinton ever engaged in 'Operation Desert Fox', or drew up the 'Iraqi Liberation Act'. Oh, and Clinton didn't dare enforce the sanctions on Iraq, preventing the Iraqi people from receiving food and medicine.

Funny how liberals attack Bush, but when someone criticizes Clinton, they squeal 'Clinton lied, but no-one died!"

Stupid liberal retards. If their grasp on their history was as good as their grasp on their dick, they might actually be worth listening to.
Clinton didn't invade Iraq, either. Not even Bush's father was dumb enough to do that. Remember when he bombed Osama's training facilities and you all cried "no war for Monika"? Yeah.

Michael, here is a thing: The law is whatever enough people say it is.
No. the law is what a small elite with the most MONEY says it is!

I find left wingers, are the most violent & angry people, on this planet you sit on your high horse, looking down on everybody else telling us were all racists, and you are the good guys.

But you are a racist right?



Yet you left wingers, are the ones who attack abortion clinics, attack mcdonalds, attack laboratories that do experiments on animals.

Right wingers are the ones that attack abortion clinics. Lefties are the ones that have abortions.



Do you realise how violent you are, do you realise that every drug or cosmetic, you apply to yourself has been tested on animals, you are such *ucking hypocrites.

I consider myself extremely left and am quite happily involved in animal cruelty.



Nearly every violent rally in europe, or america, leftwingers are the people behind it, it all starts off with some bollocks peace rally, or capitalism rally, then you leftwingers finish it with a good free for all fight with the police, and then you attack mcdonalds.[/qoute]

I don't see how yo can justify NOT attacking McDonalds.

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VIOLENCE IS NOT A TAP, YOU TURN ON & OFF WHEN YOU LEFTWINGERS, SHOW VIOLENCE AT RALLIES, YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR TRUE NATURE, WHICH IS A VIOLENT NATURE.
Of course righties just want to own guns to protect themselves from lefty criminals.



Leftwingers in this forum, you have run nearly a dozen threads on the hurricanes in america, yet you have ignored the pakistan earthquake, a thousand dead in america or so, over 50,000 dead in pakistans earthquake, so are you not practising racism by ignoring the pakistan earthquake, you seem not in the slightest bit interested in discussing it.

I'm quite happy to discuss the nature of earthquakes.



do you see what hypocrites you are?

No, but I can see the hypocrite that is you.



Right wingers are against drugs, yet left wing politicians, are all for relaxing drug laws.

And that is bad because?



Laugh, you demonstrate against bush in australia, The next day the unelected leader of the world's largest totalitarian regime china, a regime that has presided over the genocide of Tibet, a regime that, according to Amnesty International, executes 2,000 of its citizens annually, a regime that threatens to invade the democratic sovereign state of Taiwan,

China...isn't that the preferred trading partner of the righties in the US?



yet you left wingers of the world, ignore this chinese dictator, a chinese government that is responsible for more crimes against its people, than the entire world put together.

So why are you righties so obsessed with sticking your heads up chinas ass?



The trouble with left wingers is, you guys like to jump on the fashionable band wagon, whether its anti-america, or anti-bush.
It is not fashionable to attack china or to be bothered about pakistan after all there muslims, do you see how racist you are, you are all attacking white countries or white leaders, but you ignore poblems in non white countries.

Ok then...all countries, white or not with righties people in their government should be spanked.



In africa its always the white man to blame for it all, its not hip to blame the coloured man for anything, its always the ex colonial master to blame.

I wonder why?



Right wingers see life as it is, left wingers see life on someone elses fashionable bandwagon.

Yes, righties prefer to think of themselves before all others.

you know,if the useless hippies in the sixties would have brought GUNS instead of bongs,we wouldnt have this plutocracy right now.

as it turns out no one is afraid of a wimpy pacifist stoned hippy liberal,but phsyco gun nut rich ass republicans weilding power like its a childs toy is pretty scary.

both suck equally. if the dems would just say ''guns are awsome!''
they would win every election for the next 100 years regardless of how bad the repugs try to steal it.

Democrats aren't opposed to gun ownership. And people were scared of hippies, very, very scared. So much so that they shot them in the streets. The reactionary uptight conservative bible thumpers were so scared that they worked hard to create the Republican party we see today.

Clinton didn't invade Iraq, either. Not even Bush's father was dumb enough to do that. Remember when he bombed Osama's training facilities and you all cried "no war for Monika"? Yeah.
Bush senior did invade iraq, he just did not occupy it like his son.


"Do you realise how violent you are, do you realise that every drug or cosmetic, you apply to yourself has been tested on animals, you are such *ucking hypocrites.
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spidergoat
That is no longer the case, I use Tom's of Maine products, which are never tested on animals. "



Like it or not nearly all medicines, and drugs have been tested on animals, if you have ever been sick, you have used these drugs.

anarchists or 99% of them are left wingers, and peace rallies are made up of left wingers, and the violence that follows is from left wingers.

When the national front hold a rally in the UK, it is usually the left wingers who attack them, and make the rally into a violent one.

I have never known of right wingers attacking either a peace rally, or a G8 demonstration, we let you smash up our towns, and any mcdonalds you can find.

funny thing is most these G8 meetings are in quiet peaceful towns, out of the way like davos, but still left wingers from all over the world descend on these quiet towns, and smash them up, then have there usual punch up with the police.

You can some up most left wingers with one word VIOLENT, you can not accept the law, you can not accept decisions by our leaders, elected by the people.

I have never demonstrated in my life, nor will i you achieve nothing, our police do a damn hard job in the world, they dont need to have yearly free for all puch ups with left wingers, on there usual pretence of a peaceful demonstration.

My own opinion is that demonstrators who attack the police, should be given long jail terms, and then they might realise it is not hip or fashionable to hit a policeman.

I am sick to death of seeing left wingers attacking police, throwing petrol bombs, stones, and then walking away from it to go down the pub, and have a good laugh about it, and then smoke a few joints to get high about it all.

Anarchists, Anti-capitalists, animal rights campaigners, peace activists are all left wingers.

So who are the violent people in our society?

some thoughts~~~~~~te power elite fund both sides.....yes includin their extremes, communism and fascism. and as for CHOICE.....errr right, who do yoo wanna. mr LEFT or mr RIGHT. 'ohhhh ya mean sir i haaave a CHOICE???' (al wide eyed

'YES--mah boy'--said the organ grinder, 'ya do'........whaty he aint tellin the mokey is that homeer he chooses, they are battin for the SAMEside...good game huh? for someone

The things lefties are usually protesting are extraordinarily violent events, such as the Vietnam war, the war in Iraq, the destruction and rape of third world economies, ect... And by far the majority of these protests are non-violent.

I'm not personally against testing medicines on animals, but I think shampoo can be made safely without it, and I eat at McDonalds.


So who are the violent people in our society?
Warmongers and neo-cons like Tony Blair and George Bush.

Hmm...

Another category of violent people in our society is probably that one that consists of people convicted of violent crimes.

All lefties I heard...

And people who join up in the army to fight the camel lovers...

All lefties too!

And people who want to defend their country with their own gun.

All lefties too!




No wonder Hitler didn't like lefties.

I'm not personally against testing medicines on animals, but I think shampoo can be made safely without it, and I eat at McDonalds.


this is were righties get it all wrong. I'm all against testing on animals to find out which shampoo stings baby's eye more than another. Because that is a rightie industry. They just want to make money so they can oppress more lefties.

I'm all for testing on animals for science. Because pure science never enticed any rightie. They don't need science. They have the rightie bible.

Leftists fear Old Ideas and have created programs to insulate the next generation from Old Ideas. Leftists would never admit that a society is composed out of a common culture and a common morality and that you cannot simply construct a civilization out of seperate or opposite materials.

On the same note, Republicans are liberals, since they posit a weak and unsustained morality and like leftists see all human action as being simply economically motivated.

Once a leftist "truth" is engrained in society: multiculturalism, pluralism, tolerance, etc, it is simply taken as a given and any opposition to it is seen as irrational and must be faced with first anger, then violence. Leftists are only tolerant and open to those who share their exact same views, instead of true toleration, which is the idea that people ACTUALLY have different views.

Yes, we fear old ideas like segregation, like treating a black person as 3/5th of a person. We fear fascism, or the merging of government and corporate interests. Old ideas like that.

progressives live in the now to the future. not in some majic idealogical past that doesnt exsist. we try to deal with whats happening right now and speculate on what we would like the future to be.

regressives[republicans,idiots,conservatives] only want to live in 1953 macarthy america,where the rich white man is king,and all others do his bidding.

fuck anyone who is not a realist,including demacrates[just the ones in government] republicans, idealogs,plutocrates, dictaters,stupid people, and any one else who thinks we should live back in ''the good old days'' .the dark ages were some good old days ,too,right?

all this right left bollks is indoctrinated in us by the State. what i excluded from any intelligent debate is the exscluded middle......or brains have been divided and dont see it

i feel offended if i say i dont agree wit testing on animals AT ALL and am la belled 'Leftie'.....maybe 'offended' aint the right term...more --am benneath contempt

the State-stage has set it that any show of HUMANITY is termd leftie. it is fukin bleedin pathetic...despairingly so

Left all the way.......;)

Left all the way.......;)
So i take it you will be off to the next G8 meeting of world leaders, ready to smash some quiet peaceful little town to bits, and be one of the many left wingers there who will put dozens of police officers in hospital there, but hell its all in the name of peace, and to rid the world of poverty, left wingers are violent hypocrites, and you are all racists, because you guys only attack white countries, you have no interest in looking at the root cause of poverty corruption.

If you want to stop poverty start harrassing president mugabe, or other african leaders for there corruption, harrassing world leaders achieves nothing,
harrassing corrupt leaders might motivate there people to demand change in there country.

So i take it you will be off to the next G8 meeting of world leaders, ready to smash some quiet peaceful little town to bits, and be one of the many left wingers there who will put dozens of police officers in hospital there, but hell its all in the name of peace, and to rid the world of poverty, left wingers are violent hypocrites, and you are all racists, because you guys only attack white countries, you have no interest in looking at the root cause of poverty corruption.

me::which IS?

If you want to stop poverty start harrassing president mugabe, or other african leaders for there corruption, harrassing world leaders achieves nothing,
harrassing corrupt leaders might motivate there people to demand change in there country.
world leaders ARE corrupt leaders. didn't you know?.....and i admire people who go to te front line and speak out against whats going on. of course YOu will buy what they feed you from mainstream mediaont you? where they wilo attempt to show what meanies people are aginst te law abiding citizens and good policemen. so they will edit it to look like all theprotesters ae causing violence......you have no fukin idea. an apathetic big media consumer gullible

world leaders ARE corrupt leaders. didn't you know?.....and i admire people who go to te front line and speak out against whats going on. of course YOu will buy what they feed you from mainstream mediaont you? where they wilo attempt to show what meanies people are aginst te law abiding citizens and good policemen. so they will edit it to look like all theprotesters ae causing violence......you have no fukin idea. an apathetic big media consumer gullible
Yes i have eyes, and i use them to see baliclava lefties with petrol bombs attacking police at G8 meetings, why do lefties take baliclavas and scarfs to cover there faces at G8 meetings is it because there cold?

You need to wake up to reality, what should i do ignore tv pictures of this, because it is not real, maybe this footage of left wing loonies, smashing up towns is actually just hollywood propaganda using actors, you left wing loonies and your conspiract theories, everbody is against you media, governments, knock knock is there anybody there, do you lefties need to lay off the cannabis for a day or so, so you can get a grasp on reality.

Yes, we fear old ideas like segregation, like treating a black person as 3/5th of a person. Your affirmitive action laws treat blacks "as 3/5th of a person".

Yes i have eyes, and i use them to see baliclava lefties with petrol bombs attacking police at G8 meetings, why do lefties take baliclavas and scarfs to cover there faces at G8 meetings is it because there cold?

Petrol bombs? what petrol bombs? Media evidence please.
PLus, anarchists arent lefties. The marxists and socialists I know were on the weekends marches in Edinburgh not up at gleneagles.



You need to wake up to reality, what should i do ignore tv pictures of this, because it is not real, maybe this footage of left wing loonies, smashing up towns is actually just hollywood propaganda using actors, you left wing loonies and your conspiract theories, everbody is against you media, governments, knock knock is there anybody there, do you lefties need to lay off the cannabis for a day or so, so you can get a grasp on reality.

Pardon? For someone who sounds like they are trying to take the piss out of right wing extremists, your getting a bit tiresome.

Anyway, nice to see you've taken the knighthood thing to heart. I am sure that next time your in Scotland I could see about getting you a good beating from some people who dont like knighthoods to be taken in vain.

Democrats aren't opposed to gun ownership.

Yeah, it's why California, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Washington D.C., and Illinois have the worst anti-gun laws in the nation. It's why San Franciso is trying to ban all handguns in the whole county. It's why the "freedom-loving" ACLU are against arguing for the 2nd ammendment. Blah, blah blah, blah blah.. I could go on and on.


We fear fascism, or the merging of government and corporate interests.

Well tell your lefty leaders to quit being fascist by trying to disarm the populace. They're only playing into the hands of oppression. We're the ones that keep this country in check if shit ever hit the fan by a corrupt government seizing control and turning this place into a police state as it continues to look more and more like as the days go by due to this whole "War on Terror".

There is no doubt in my mind that this country would look completely different and would have made a turn for the worst if not for our right to bear arms. The New World Order lead by America that the extreme righties such as PNAC (which many of the Bush Administration belong to, including the now head of the World Bank, Paul Wolfowitz) continue to talk about would have happend a long time ago. We protect the rights of our country, nobody else, because we're the only citizens able to enforce them if the time ever comes to do so.

As someone else here said, the democrats would win for the next 100 years if only they'd be for our 2nd ammendment and quit with their stupid gun control laws. The #1 reason why I dislike democrats is because of their gun control beliefs.

Screw both left and righties.

INDEPENDANT!

:D

- N

Petrol bombs? what petrol bombs? Media evidence please.
PLus, anarchists arent lefties. The marxists and socialists I know were on the weekends marches in Edinburgh not up at gleneagles.


Pardon? For someone who sounds like they are trying to take the piss out of right wing extremists, your getting a bit tiresome.

Anyway, nice to see you've taken the knighthood thing to heart. I am sure that next time your in Scotland I could see about getting you a good beating from some people who dont like knighthoods to be taken in vain.

You mean like sean connery, he is for ever shouting for independence for scotland, yet like me he takes a knighthood from the Queen, is Sean connery also from edinburgh a hypocrite too.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1451845.stm
The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, responded angrily to the suggestion that the violence meant summits had to change.

democratically elected leaders should not meet because people came to riot and throw petrol bombs at the police.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/world/newsid_2955000/2955804.stm
Updated 02 June 2003, 11.42

Protesters have caused millions of pounds of damage in Geneva, close to where the leaders of the world's richest countries are meeting.

Out of hand

But things got out of hand when some protesters overran the main demonstrations and started throwing rocks and petrol bombs. German police had to be called in to calm things down.


Shop windows were smashed and streets were covered with broken glass

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http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-2/550/550_02_G8.shtml
MASSES OF people were descending on Scotland in early July to protest George W. Bush and the other leaders of the world’s most powerful governments.

The summit of the Group of Eight (G8) rich countries, hosted this time by British Prime Minister Tony Blair,

That’s why the left wing of the global justice movement sought to broaden the debate with a series of teach-ins and protests, such as the G8 Alternative Summit on July 3.

Peace campaigners, debt campaigners, church congregations and the organized left. Environmentalists, fair trade activists, trade unionists and antiwar campaigners.

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Genoa G8 meeting

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Z8QfAyJ9vR4J:www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000002D1B0.htm+G8+meeting+left+wing+protesters&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Before the G8 summit began, numerous bombs went off. Letter bombs went off at the Benetton administrative headquarters near Treviso, in the face of a police officer in Genoa, and at the headquarters of TG4 News in Milan, injuring a secretary. A small bomb was disarmed in the centre of Bologna, and a petrol bomb set a temporary employment agency on fire in Milan with the Red Brigades' five star symbol painted on the wall


The above incidents were useless acts of violence by isolated groups and individuals. They do not represent a return to the highly organised terrorism Italy experienced during the 1970s and early 1980s. The Red Brigades and left-wing terrorist groups killed 29 people in 1978, 22 in 1979 and 30 in 1980, especially police, judges and journalists. But the Red Brigades also kidnapped and killed Aldo Moro, the president of the Christian Democrats and a leading political figure of the mid-1970s. There is no movement in Italy currently capable of such organised terrorism.

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Genoa G8 meeting
http://www.flourish.org/g8genova/
Every little left wing Italian political party seems to be there, along with all the Greek ones as well.
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Do you see a common link running here its left wing loonies, and petrol bombs


Peace campaigners, Environmentalists,antiwar campaigners.
they were all there, WHO DO THEY REPRESENT THE LEFT WING, A RIGHT WING ACTIVIST WOULD NOT BE SEEN DEAD WITH THESE BUNCH OF CANNABIS LOONIES.



Mr guthrie
I back up my statements with facts not left wing cannabis induced bull shit.

Not so fast there Vincent. The CIA, Italian intelligence and P2 may hafe founded and run the Red Brigades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladio

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/Terrorism_Western_Europe.pdf


When the Italians get rid of Berlusconi the will be able to resume the project of unearthing the truth.

Here are some names for searches "Gianadelio Maletti" "Giovanni Pellegrini" and judge Casson.

Not only were the Red Brigades possibly founded and guided by right wing intelligence unbeknownst to the crazy lefty dupes but also most of the bombing blamed on the Red Brigades may have been done by western intelligence trying to manipulate Italian public opinion.

Seattle, Gleneagles, and Genoa all had questionable protester people believed by the other protesters to be law enforcement engaged in vandalism. In Genoa numerous witnesses saw the people (Germans) dressed as black block carrying iron bars being dropped off and comming out of police vans. The left blogs say there was video proof of th had the videoese make believe black block comming from police Vans but I did not find a blog that had the video.

Not so fast there Vincent. The CIA, Italian intelligence and P2 may hafe founded and run the Red Brigades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladio

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/Terrorism_Western_Europe.pdf


When the Italians get rid of Berlusconi the will be able to resume the project of unearthing the truth.

Here are some names for searches "Gianadelio Maletti" "Giovanni Pellegrini" and judge Casson.

Not only were the Red Brigades possibly founded and guided by right wing intelligence unbeknownst to the crazy lefty dupes but also most of the bombing blamed on the Red Brigades may have been done by western intelligence trying to manipulate Italian public opinion.

Seattle, Gleneagles, and Genoa all had questionable protester people believed by the other protesters to be law enforcement engaged in vandalism. In Genoa numerous witnesses saw the people (Germans) dressed as black block carrying iron bars being dropped off and comming out of police vans. The left blogs say there was video proof of th had the videoese make believe black block comming from police Vans but I did not find a blog that had the video.

"The left blogs say there was video proof of th had the videoese make believe black block comming from police Vans but I did not find a blog that had the video."

The reason you cant find the video is because there is none, hell CNN would pay a fortune for that, its just more left wing propaganda.

So the very old left wing conspiracy theory again, where our governments are actually bombing us not left wing loonies, and its undercover government operatives petrol bombing police, and smashing up mcdonalds, you guys certainly live in one big dream world

it aint about left or right but what is right

can you understand that vincent?

can you understand that this left right trip your on is being manipulated by a secret society which manufactures tis false dichotomy. that both politicans left and right belong to te same skullnbones club

so yuou hear this and go 'ohhh conspiracy bla bla.'
but you never really look into it do you vinney?.....you dont dare do ya?..might shatter yer safe little right bashin leftie world

ITS about AMERICA retards!!! if your not putting america first while your working in a government office,you have commitied treason!!!!!

the diffrence between an american and a politician/pundit/idiot is that a patriot puts his country above his own selfish desires.

unless you are a patriuot ,go fuck your self,you commie/nazi bastards.

I feel a bit stupid as a leftie now. While I am finding a cure for cancer with my other leftie scientists friends the righties are making money in business. So that they can afford to be cured of cancer.

I feel a bit stupid as a leftie now. While I am finding a cure for cancer with my other leftie scientists friends the righties are making money in business. So that they can afford to be cured of cancer.

Ahh, how interesting that you now seem to be realizing the difference between idealism and realism. And please don't forget, also, that all of the money that you and your idealistic buddies are using to find that cure come from the realists of the world. ...so without them, you'd not be able to do your research.

The realities of life and the world just fucks up all the fantasies, don't it.

Baron Max

Ha ha, Republicans like to think they are the ones being "realistic", when reality is the one thing they refuse to face. Facts are irrelevent to the cons as the pursue a fantasy of being saviors to the world. Ideology trumps reality in their economic policies as well. There is no greater illusion than thinking that giving away money to rich people benefits the poor.

Where'd the money come from in the first place, Spider? And why do some have it and some don't? Why can't the poor do what the others do and then they'd be rich, too? Or do you have some "excuse" for them?????

Baron Max

But who is going to find a cure for cancer if we are all righties?

I wish everyone could do what others do and get rich, but the people that get rich sometimes get greedy about it and buy politicians in order to prevent fair competition, and to minimize giving back to the community that made them rich. Is our government so structured that Oligarchy is impossible? Do we not have an economy in which success in business depends on an extremely close relationship between the businessman and the state institutions of politics and government, rather than by the espoused "equitable" concepts of the free market, open competition, and economic liberalism? (wikipedia)

I wish everyone could do what others do and get rich, but the people that get rich sometimes get greedy about it and buy politicians in order to prevent fair competition, and to minimize giving back to the community that made them rich.

So what? Then let the others do the same ...in fair competition!

See? Ye're just making excuses for those who don't work hard enough or want it badly enough to do what needs to be done. Gee-Whiz, Spider, you know as well as anyone else that life isn't fair, yet you continue to have those silly-assed dreams/fantasies.

Your whole premise is that all people should have all the wealth that everyone else has ...that's foolish and ignorant. Human life is just not like that ...people are all different, with different wants and needs. Yet you condemn SOME who happen to want more things and work harder to get it! That ain't nice of you.

Baron Max

I think that the main problem here is that especially many Americans think that society HAS to be based on selfishness. That any other system will not work. But is is just all indoctrination and a 'choice'.

I've been now in the US for 3 weeks, and I still notice daily how everythiing here is aimed at putting this point forward: that it is good to be selfish. Anything else is just foolishness.

I seriously doubt that you would notice if you grew up in the US.

Baron, are you saying that everyone has a fair chance at corruption? That rich people should be allowed to buy more democracy than you and me? Isn't corruption and cronyism inherently unfair?

You mean like sean connery, he is for ever shouting for independence for scotland, yet like me he takes a knighthood from the Queen, is Sean connery also from edinburgh a hypocrite too.
Well, if you could prove you had a knighthood it might help your case, but as it happens he is a hypocrite. That doesnt matter.


As for the old G8's, taht doesnt count. i was reffering ot the one held this year, not a million miles away from here. Oddly enough there were no petrol bomb throing anarchists there. Anyway, for those reading this who pretned to some sort of intelligence, heres a quote from a sister article from the very first url vincent posted:

"Many of Saturday's clashes involved what has become known as the "black block".

It is believed this comprises several loosely organised anarchist and radical groups, wearing trademark black clothing, black hoods and gas masks."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1450323.stm

Once again, for those hard of hearing, anarchists arent lefties. Anarchists are just as frequently right wing free marketeers, but they are too busy trying to make money.

FAir competition? I am sure Wanderer is laughing off somewhere. there is no such thing as fair competition, unless you arrange someone to set rules that both sides can agree on. However, unlike a game of golf, real life economic struggles do not take place in a way that can be fairly and freely entered into by both parties. Thus, Baron MAx, you point out the splinter in others eyes as you ignore the beam in your own.

http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_22521.shtml

To the thread title itself.
There's a disturbing phenomenon of (oxymoron) anti-war warriors, violent in the name of peace.

I think we've all seen many violent demontrations to demontrate this.

As a Libertarian and self-confessed centralist, I've got to admit that Left-wingers are some of the most elitist and hypocritical people on this planet. Most of my friends who are Left-wingers are spoiled rich brats who get everything given to them by their mommies and daddies (that's what happens when you live in Connecticut!) and they constantly complain about all the injustices in the World yet do nothing about it.

Now, i'm not saying that all leftists are like this, but I have to admit that most of the ones i've met in my life have been pompous and ignorant fools who base their views SOLELY on the inexhaustable propaganda that comes from various left-wing groups out there. I mean seriously, if you're going to have a stance on an issue, be well-informed from all angles. Not only based upon what Michael Moore or Lars von Triers says you should be thinking.

Meh....make of it what you will.

Well, you are always going to have pretend lefties and real lefties. Just as there are pretend righties and real righties.

But who is going to find a cure for cancer if we are all righties?

Lefties - Righties. A cure for cancer? Never happen as long as cancer drugs that don't cure cancer make so many companies / politicians rich.

There will NEVER be a cure for cancer. The Drug companies will never allow it. Again, there will never be a cure for cancer - then and again let me put that this way - there will never be a cure for cancer available to the public.

[keep trying - if you should happen to find one, ensure your will is updated!]

Hate to burst your bubble of conspiracy, but many forms of cancer are treatable.

Hate to burst your bubble of conspiracy, but many forms of cancer are treatable.

Herpes is treatable.
HIV is treatable.
The common cold is treatable.
Cancer is Treatable.
Any cures?

THERE IS NO CURE NOR WILL THERE EVER BE A CURE FOR CANCER - THAT IS WIDELY AVAILABLE TO THE PEOPLE.

You are lisitng 3 forms of a Virus and "Cancer" which are completley different things. And how in the hell is HIV treatable when the fatality rate is 100%? Do you really need a cure for the common cold??

As a Libertarian and self-confessed centralist, I've got to admit that Left-wingers are some of the most elitist and hypocritical people on this planet. .
I can gurantee you that the radical leftists won't get it even with Jihadists' knife on their throats-AllahUAkbar.

THERE IS NO CURE NOR WILL THERE EVER BE A CURE FOR CANCER - THAT IS WIDELY AVAILABLE TO THE PEOPLE.

There are many different types of cancer. Some have cures. some are treatable. Some are not.

Fair competition? I am sure Wanderer is laughing off somewhere. there is no such thing as fair competition, unless you arrange someone to set rules that both sides can agree on. However, unlike a game of golf, real life economic struggles do not take place in a way that can be fairly and freely entered into by both parties. Thus, Baron MAx, you point out the splinter in others eyes as you ignore the beam in your own.

This wanderer, if he is the same wanderer I came here seeking, where
has he gone? I have not seen him in years, and I wish to talk to him.
It was in seeking him that I found this place.

As to the idea of fairness. Fairness is an achievable goal only when it is
a goal. In the American system, fairness is assumed as a byproduct of
the system, which is foolishness. Life is not inherently fair, and assuming
that it is will only provide an excuse to perpetuate existing inequities.

OTOH, this all assumes that fairness is something that we want from our
society, and I have seen no evidence for that.

Left wingers are against, any country holding nuclear weapons, they want us all to give them up, but what they can not get into there tiny brains is that nuclear weapons have been keeping the peace, for over 50 years, without them there would have been at least another 3 world wars.

China would have invaded japan & taiwan a long time of go, if america did not have nukes, russia would have invaded all of europe, if the french and uk did not have nukes.

The policies of left wingers, are pathetic relaxed drug laws, nuclear disarmament, bankrolling corrupt third world countries, with blank cheques.
You assume all left-wingers are against Nuclear Weapons. This is what makes you an idiot. You assume that ALL of a certain people are a certain way. There are gray areas, you boob :rolleyes:.

There are many different types of cancer. Some have cures. some are treatable. Some are not.
Cancer is a random irradiation and mutation of a cell, there is no "cure" or "vaccine" against randomness.

"China's genocide of Tibet"

The above quote was definitely invented in CIA offices. There is no any genocide. On contre, China (whatever you'll say about it) has put the end to theocratic barbaric tibetian madness. China ended slavery, serfdom, cutting limbs as punishment, etc. etc.. China gave a chance for decent (as for circumstances) life for millions of Tibetians. Yes, Tibetians have paid the price for it. But whatever they have now is much better than life they had before. That's why CIA sponsored uprising has failed 40 something years ago . An average former serf did not support uprising of airborned "aristorcrats" turned into "fighters for freedom" by ... you know whom.

Cancer is a random irradiation and mutation of a cell, there is no "cure" or "vaccine" against randomness.

You can cut it out for instance.

You can kill it chemically.

I guess maybe because you are so young you have never heard of anyone surving cancer. But people do.

That's a treatment, however, not a "cure". You can "cure" a virus, you can "cure" bacteria. You can't "cure" mutation, but you can treat it, and killing it is one way.
Oh, and my grandmother survived breast cancer, so don't be making fun of my age, bitch.

That is my original statement. That cancer is treatable. But if you really want to be anal about things you have to accept the fact that people treat you back in an anal fashion.

Maybe you haven't learned that yet.

btw:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cure