Unbelievable.
A Maricopa County man was taken to a hospital Saturday night to have his stomach pumped after telling police he bit off and swallowed the thumb of his 2-year-old son. (Full text here (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0421a1finger21.html))
Jones told deputies he bit off his son's thumb in order to match their DNA, or genetic materials, according to jail booking records that investigators have filed in the case. (Full text here (http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0422thumb-dad-ON.html))I’ve said it before. You just couldn’t make this shit up!

And it pisses me off. Perhaps we ought to restore natural selection by giving these losers exactly what they want - free narcotics. Methamphetamines, heroin, you name it! Free from the state for all the dope heads. Open up state supported dope parlors where it will be a 24/7 drug-induced stupor until they finally take that big overdose that they want and deserve.

Peace.

(There you go, Chagur.. a rant instead of remote intellectualism.)

I knew you had it in you! Feels good, doesn't it.

Dope parlors? Hell, reservations ... Get them out of society!

Give them the basics; food, shelter, etc. and free access to their poison of choice.

Either they kill themselves, or they live out their lives in la-la-land, or they clean
up their act and are allowed back into society.

But then, I have a different perspective on things ... Like I really thought that
it would be neat to dump a few hunded pounds of mj in the Attica prison yard
and a couple of days later go in with CERT teams and move the little darling
back into their cells. But no! Gas and armed State Troopers ... And forty-nine
dead Officers and inmates.

Every one of the ten Corrections Officers killed by Troopers!

Guess I had to get in a rant too. Comes with seeing too much madness.

Take care :(

POI Six inmates killed by other inmates during the riot.

Up with hope, down with Dope!!!

But.......they don't want us to have the freedom to die.

On morals ground I disagree with any illegal substances. On a social level,however, I feel everyone has a right to do what they wish. ...and we are talking socially here.

So let's talk a little about this Dope, people. If I read it well, you just want to get rid of all the "Junkies".

Well, guess you have to get rid of all the people who use sleeping pills and medicine against anxiety too, for it is as addictive as heroin and the withdrawal symptoms are exactly the same. People, high on medication are just as bad as the people who are using heroin, cocaine, alcohol(!!!) and whatever other addictive garbage.

And please, don't come up with the weak excuse that it is a prescription from a doctor, for the side effects from sleeping pills and medicine against, for instance, anxiety are numerous. Ever looked at these side effects from legally prescribed medication?

The people who use this are not victims, they begun on the medication on own Free Will. So, away with all those people!

My goodness, what a beautiful, empty world should remain...

Coffee!!!!:D

Yep! You're right! All coffee users, away with them! Clean the world from all addictions! Too much coffee can make a person fucked up, too! :D

(yes, I'm going already! looking for a clean coffee cup!) ;)

What about the internet ;)

Yes, of course! :) :) How could I forget it? :) That would be a good clean up party!

Away with the Internet, too! ;)

What about that Goofyfish? So to see are you a real Internet "Junky"... :bugeye:

(Internet can be harmful too, you know. Look at how many time some people spend on being on the Internet, forgetting all other, important, "things" around them. I mean it you know! It can bring sadness and a lot of pain to loved ones.)

...I apologize. It's about Drug abuse here. It was certainly not my intention to fuck up the thread... :(

I think that the "Goofster"'s original idea was good, maybe a little extreem. I abhore illegal drugs, even pot, I mean after all, do you want a stoner for a airline pilot, how about a bus driver? or a surgeon, or a junky for a president. I believe that people have a moral obligation to remain if not sober, at least grounded, or centerd. All members of society have to be able to make clear and productive desitions at ALL times, without thinking through a substance fog.

Welcome to sciforums, KPADDLER.

I think for the essence of the thread's responces that we would wind up with a good chunk of people missing from the world population. I will put forth that drugs have their place and time. (That is, used for recreation) Also reflected here is that one poison is anothers gold. That it seems that obsession is the hallmark of what is reflected as undesirable.

"I think that the "Goofster"'s original idea was good, maybe a little extreem. I abhore illegal drugs, even pot, I mean after all, do you want a stoner for a airline pilot, how about a bus driver? or a surgeon, or a junky for a president. I believe that people have a moral obligation to remain if not sober, at least grounded, or centerd. All members of society have to be able to make clear and productive desitions at ALL times, without thinking through a substance fog."

I see it as a freedom of choice, but that's beyond the point of your post. You don't want a pilot as a stoner? Or don't want a pilot stoned while he flies?

And how do you know then, that a pilot or bus driver hasn't taken any drugs? Not every pilot, bus driver, cab driver or whatever driver or pilot, is tested before he does his job. He/she can be on medication which influence their behaviour, legally from a doctor.

Hell, he/she might have a little bottle with alcohol to nip from, during the flight/drive. How do you know? You ask them before you get in the plane/bus/cab, whatever? And do you think he/she will actually admit to you he/she uses any kind of drugs/medication?

There's been proven that some of the shootings at schools a few years back, or whenever it was, were done under influence of medication against anxiety.

Really, it are not only illegal drugs like heroin and/or cocaine which causes the problems.

And as far as the president concerns, do you think you'd hear about it when he smokes a joint every once in a while?

There's a lot of hidden drug abuse, more then you think...

Much more. I was speaking to a chick from Ottawa (Canada's capital) who disproved many myths about Ottawa. The entire city is basically universities and government buildings, but apparently all the gov. officials who arent conservative and all the universtiy profs smoke.


And exactly banshee..... it's the same with alcohol as it is with marijuana.

Do I want a pilot who is a stoner, or a pilot who is stoned? Neither. I do not understand the recreational value of any substance that provides an escape. What the heck are people escaping from? What the heck is made better (really, permenantly ) by getting stoned, drunk, bomed, or high. The moment that you come back from your "recreation" the problem still exsists. I much prefer to meet daily life head-on, and to deal with what comes with a clear mind, and I want my pilot to have a clear mind as well.

"Do I want a pilot who is a stoner, or a pilot who is stoned? Neither. I do not understand the recreational value of any substance that provides an escape"

Alcohol fits the bill nicely. So let's ban alcohol, right?



"What the heck are people escaping from? What the heck is made better (really, permenantly ) by getting stoned, drunk, bomed, or high. The moment that you come back from your "recreation" the problem still exsists."

It's fun. Why do you do things that you enjoy? As soon as you stop doing them, reality comes back. I enjoy playing hockey. Does it help me after I've played? No. Do I enjoy it while I'm playing? Yes.



"I much prefer to meet daily life head-on, and to deal with what comes with a clear mind, and I want my pilot to have a clear mind as well."

Yeah, well, your preference. Some of us enjoy some fun. Quite simply, it's fun. And believe me, if you smoke 4 hours before flying, there is no differential than if you've never smoked.

Do I want a pilot who is a stoner, or a pilot who is stoned?

Ok, now for a little of the real world. I can not speak for the rest of the world but in the US, the airline industry is covered by DOT regulations. The same regulations cover; truck drivers, commercial bus drivers, rail transportation, ship crews, businesses that fill government contracts and many, many, more industries. DOT requires that all workers that fall under their scope be tested at unannounced intervals for drug use. Most of those occupations pay enough that those who fall under their jursidiction value their jobs more than drug use. It is the choice they make to work the job. These testing procedures started during the Reagen era and continue today.

How do I know? I too, fall within the jursidiction of the DOT and have had to take the tests for many years now.

Just one thing I don't understand in all this... Canada has a capital???

Oh shut up!

At least you're not as bad as a couple Americans. I have actually met Americans who could not tell you what all Canada was. Or where any of the areas of it are. Or what a 'provence' is. Most of them know of Toronto and that's about it.

True story, there's an episode of Jeopardy out there where none of the three contestants can answer where the CN Tower is. One guess was Seatle. Another was New York and the third was Vancouver. Real answer? Toronto.

Originally posted by wet1

Ok, now for a little of the real world. I can not speak for the rest of the world but in the US

Well, it's good you added that last sentence behind it, guess there is more to the real world then only the U$.

I wouldn't want to feed all the pilots, bus-drivers, cab-drivers or whatever, who is under the influence from a kind of drug, on prescription or illegal, in fact it comes down to one and the same. It is Dope, all of it.

And you can't convince me that there is never ever been a mistake or a pilot/driver in the U$ who actually is on some kind of Dope, medication, alcohol, whatever...

At least you're not as bad as a couple Americans. I have actually met Americans who could not tell you what all Canada was.

So, I guess your well educated in World Geography. Why do care so much about whether Americans know about your country? (And Im saying this only because this is the 2 or 3rd quote that Ive read of yours.) Honesly, Ive never had an interest to learn about Canada. Ever. I also dont about the geology of Mexico - doesnt mean I dont like ya'll.

Take care :)

Nope, I hate geography. I just take pride in knowing the world around me.

Now, only you will know if you don't have to cheat to tell me this.......but can you name the last 5 Canadian Prime Ministers?

I can name like the last 10 Presidents without a problem, and I'd say most Canadians could EASILY name the last 5 Presidents. But how many of your friends can name the last 5 Prime Ministers?

Originally posted by Tyler
...how many of your friends can name the last 5 Prime Ministers?Well... I can.
Not sure if I should be proud or embarrassed! :D

Peace.

Canada - wait wait don't tell me! That's just soulth of China, isn't it?

Sorry Tyler. :D

Sorry Tyler,
No, I honesly cant. I cant name any past world leaders except ones that had a major impact on history. Its good that you "just take pride in knowing the world around you", just like I take pride in my country. But it doesnt mean that you are a better person because you know more about history that I do. :)

"Well... I can.
Not sure if I should be proud or embarrassed!"

Haha.


"Canada - wait wait don't tell me! That's just soulth of China, isn't it?"

Hey, you're gettin' close!!!!!


"Sorry Tyler,
No, I honesly cant. I cant name any past world leaders except ones that had a major impact on history. Its good that you "just take pride in knowing the world around you", just like I take pride in my country. But it doesnt mean that you are a better person because you know more about history that I do"


And Canadians see this as a value. Most of us take pride in having a firm understanding of the world around us. We, as a society, believe that it is a citizen's duty to be informed of the world or risk being ignorant to the world. Of course, there are still tons of those who are ignorant! And no, it doesn't make me a better human being. What it does make me is one with a firmer grasp on the world. Though, I won't argue that because you're an intelligent person who could still have a much more intelligent view than I on humanity and the world.

I've encountered a few Americans (just a few, no where near the majority) who thought all the stereotypes about Canada. One guy was coming up from South Carolina for hockey asked me if he needed a snowmobile to get through to Toronto. Seriously. I had to ask about 4 times if he was joking. Anyway, like I said, that is rare to find someone that unknowledgeable on the nation.

But 3 supposed intelligent contestents on Jeopardy couldn't say where the world's tallest tower was!





And the common Canadian does have a bit of a cheat on you guys for knowing past leaders.....
Some of us watch old SNL......
That means seeing Carter impressions, Reagen impressions, Bush impressions......!

Originally posted by Tyler
I've encountered a few Americans...I had the pleasure of travelling to Canada on a hunting trip a few years back. My only complaint was that vending machines in Canada do not accept Canadian coins either! :D

...and why did the waitress just stare at me when
I requested a traditional whale-blubber sandwich?

Peace.

I don't really care about borders or boundaries between countries. No one really rules or owns anything within these boundaries. I walk until I run into snow or water, then I turn around & go the other direction. All the while smoking a big fat doobie & not hurting anyone else out there.

Originally posted by ratbat
No one really rules or owns anything within these boundariesWell, actually - The Fish Rules...
Welcome to SciForums, ratbat!

Peace.

man, i don't think i could name the last ten presidents, although i'm sure that's the fault of our crappy educational system :)

by the way, do you guys have canadian bacon in canada too? or is it something else there?

Originally posted by Shamoo
...i'm sure that's the fault of our crappy educational system.Pish-posh! Take responsibility. :)

If you know that the educational system you are toiling under is crappy, don't accept it as your soul source of knowledge; educate yourself. 34th 1953 - 1961 Dwight David Eisenhower
35th 1961 - 1963 John (Jack) Fitzgerald Kennedy
36th 1963 - 1969 Lyndon Baines Johnson
37th 1969 - 1974 Richard Milhous Nixon
38th 1974 - 1977 Gerald Rudolph Ford
39th 1977 - 1981 James (Jimmy) Earl Carter
40th 1981 - 1989 Ronald Wilson Reagan
41st 1989 - 1993 George Herbert Walker Bush
42nd 1993 - 2001 William (Bill) Jefferson Clinton
43rd 2001 - George Walker Bush

Peace.

have to say i couldn't name the last 10 PM's either

only the last 3

Bob Hawk
Paul Ketting
and little johnny

This just in! Scientists have discovered that canadian bacon is actually just regular ham!!!