:eek: I wanted to share some info.. to mothers to be and mothers in general.

For mothers to be:

Call the the hospital that you are going to have your baby at and ask for the Nursery Dept. - ask them if they give newborns 2 shots within 12 hours after the newborn is born at that hospital.

I live here in Poplar Bluff, MO and they do this behind the parents backs!

1. shot is Vitamin K1 ( sounds yummy, huh), well it can cause the Newborn
to go into heart arrest! Yeah they tell you it is to prevent the baby from
clotting.. thats a good one.

2. shot is Hep B - The pharmaceutical cartels first made this for needle users
and prostitutes, but since they would not come in and volunteer for them
shots, the pharmaceutical cartels decided to apply it towards ones who
could not defend and speak for them self. By the way, the liquid is for
someone who weighs about 300 lbs.

So I will tell you to request ANY INSERT - Oh and they are good at saying-
that only 1 insert came with a BATCH- that is when you say " Make a copy for me."

Then take that INSERT and go to :

the msds dot com site

Search every INGREDIENT on that INSERT

Now all I got to say- if something was so good for your child, why would a hospital's nursery not inform the parents what they are shooting into our newborns at birth?

That is screwed up and I'm not surprised.

Ho-hum <yawn>

Here we are - with yet another conspiracy nut. :shrug:

The Hep B isn't done behind your back. You can sign off on it, but you would be stupid to do so. The phytonadione (Vitamin K) and the erythromycin eye ointment are legally mandated, however. It isn't done behind your back either, because you agreed to those terms when you were admitted for delivery.

source: I am an RN who rotates to OB. I have personally shot dozens of newborns with the Vitamin K. Nothing like what you are describing has ever taken place with a subcutaneous injection (as opposed to intramuscular or intravenous route) of Vitamin K, which is what we do.

The Hep B isn't done behind your back. You can sign off on it, but you would be stupid to do so. The phytonadione (Vitamin K) and the erythromycin eye ointment are legally mandated, however. It isn't done behind your back either, because you agreed to those terms when you were admitted.

source: I am an RN who rotates to OB. I have personally shot dozens of newborns with the Vitamin K. Nothing like what you are describing has ever taken place with a subcutaneous injection (as opposed to intramuscular or intravenous route) of Vitamin K, which is what we do.

Thanks, WN. :)

It's pretty obvious that we've acquired another paranoid member who probably also opposes the childhood injections (because of the ignorant flap over autism) and even possibly the fluoridation of drinking water.

Sadly, the world has FAR more than it's fair share of these nuts.

The Hep B isn't done behind your back. You can sign off on it, but you would be stupid to do so. The phytonadione (Vitamin K) and the erythromycin eye ointment are legally mandated, however. It isn't done behind your back either, because you agreed to those terms when you were admitted for delivery.

source: I am an RN who rotates to OB. I have personally shot dozens of newborns with the Vitamin K. Nothing like what you are describing has ever taken place with a subcutaneous injection (as opposed to intramuscular or intravenous route) of Vitamin K, which is what we do.

No, it is not even a requirement! Yes anyone working under the pharmaceutical cartels will lie. Like I have stated -> eveyrone needs to go get the INSERTS and go to the website and research every ingredient. Also read the inserts!

Yes anyone working under the pharmaceutical cartels will lie
This is a lie... :rolleyes:

:eek: I wanted to share some info.. to mothers to be and mothers in general.

For mothers to be:

Call the the hospital that you are going to have your baby at and ask for the Nursery Dept. - ask them if they give newborns 2 shots within 12 hours after the newborn is born at that hospital.

I live here in Poplar Bluff, MO and they do this behind the parents backs!

1. shot is Vitamin K1 ( sounds yummy, huh), well it can cause the Newborn
to go into heart arrest! Yeah they tell you it is to prevent the baby from
clotting.. thats a good one.

2. shot is Hep B - The pharmaceutical cartels first made this for needle users
and prostitutes, but since they would not come in and volunteer for them
shots, the pharmaceutical cartels decided to apply it towards ones who
could not defend and speak for them self. By the way, the liquid is for
someone who weighs about 300 lbs.

So I will tell you to request ANY INSERT - Oh and they are good at saying-
that only 1 insert came with a BATCH- that is when you say " Make a copy for me."

Then take that INSERT and go to :

the msds dot com site

Search every INGREDIENT on that INSERT

Now all I got to say- if something was so good for your child, why would a hospital's nursery not inform the parents what they are shooting into our newborns at birth?

Poplar Bluff eh? I'm only about 3 hours from ya!

Yes anyone working under the pharmaceutical cartels will lie.
So all the doctors who have their kids treated just like anyone else's baby are all in on the lie but are happy to risk their children? My mother is a doctor and I've had all the jabs expected of children. No doubt you'll say she got them to give me a 'clean' jab or whatever but she said nothing about jabs I've had in school or at other doctor surgeries when I've arranged them myself.

Your point of view requires a conspiracy of such enormous proportions that everyone knows someone who is in on it. The medical profession is the largest single employer here in the UK (and something like 3rd in the world) and all the doctors I know through my mother always make sure their kids are up on all their jabs. Probably because they know how horrible some of the diseases they protect against can be.

Spreading paranoia and ignorance is abhorrent since the people who suffer are almost always either the very young or the very old and those most at risk are those in groups which have a lower than usual uptake rate for vaccinations already, generally the less well off. And considering how bad the US health system is for people without insurance your attitude of "Stay away!" does more to repress the poor than any conspiracy you claim exists.

The Hep B isn't done behind your back. You can sign off on it, but you would be stupid to do so. The phytonadione (Vitamin K) and the erythromycin eye ointment are legally mandated, however. It isn't done behind your back either, because you agreed to those terms when you were admitted for delivery.

source: I am an RN who rotates to OB. I have personally shot dozens of newborns with the Vitamin K. Nothing like what you are describing has ever taken place with a subcutaneous injection (as opposed to intramuscular or intravenous route) of Vitamin K, which is what we do.

which country are you will?
Im just interested to know because i have never herd of that before. Wow, what do you know, its correct (and compleatly stupid), they DO give hep B at birth. What idocy. why the hell isnt it the combination A+B vacine???????

which country are you will?
Im just interested to know because i have never herd of that before. Wow, what do you know, its correct (and compleatly stupid), they DO give hep B at birth. What idocy. why the hell isnt it the combination A+B vacine???????

why is it idiocy to give a Hep B shot at birth?

umm you compleatly missread my post didnt you? I said its IDIOCY to give the HEP B shot when they COULD (and SHOULD) be giving the combination A AND B vacine. Ie protection from 2 viruses for the cost of one injection

They don't give Hep A til the kid is a year old. If their aim was to save money, the newborn would be getting every shot at birth. Its not about money, its about the health of the child. And I suppose a newborn can only handle so much.

Australia doesn't give the Hep A til a year either. Are you a doctor?

They don't give Hep A til the kid is a year old. If their aim was to save money, the newborn would be getting every shot at birth. Its not about money, its about the health of the child. And I suppose a newborn can only handle so much.

Australia doesn't give the Hep A til a year either

no orly, Australia (and thats what i was talking about) doesnt give Hep A AT ALL except to aborigionals and torris straight islanders

http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/nips2#footnotei

There is a combination vacine for hep A+B (which i know because i need to go get it because when i was born there went any Hep vacines, $50 each for 3 shots over a 12 month period). It makes alot more sense to vacinate against BOTH viruses than only against hep B

no orly, Australia (and thats what i was talking about) doesnt give Hep A AT ALL except to aborigionals and torris straight islanders

http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/nips2#footnotei

There is a combination vacine for hep A+B (which i know because i need to go get it because when i was born there went any Hep vacines, $50 each for 3 shots over a 12 month period). It makes alot more sense to vacinate against BOTH viruses than only against hep B

maybe it makes sense on a financial level, but can all newborn infants tolerate the Hep A and Hep B shot, especailly if they don't need it? Where is the idiocy if the child is harmed?

where is the evidence that a child is harmed by having it and lets say your right, that it means the vacine has to be delayed 6 months. How many infants are exposed to Hep B? actually depending where they are and where they travel they are more likly to be exposed to Hep A because that one is in the water surply of some countries which is a much more likly exposure point for a child than a reused needle, IV drug injection or sex

where is the evidence that a child is harmed by having it and lets say your right, that it means the vacine has to be delayed 6 months. How many infants are exposed to Hep B? actually depending where they are and where they travel they are more likly to be exposed to Hep A because that one is in the water surply of some countries which is a much more likly exposure point for a child than a reused needle, IV drug injection or sex

I say you are hysterically over-reacting and its not idiocy to vaccinate for Hep A at 1 year.
If there was Hep A in everyone's drinking water we'd know about it other than your post on sciforums.
Unless of course you can back it up?? :shrug:

I say you are hysterically over-reacting and its not idiocy to vaccinate for Hep A at 1 year.
If there was Hep A in everyone's drinking water we'd know about it other than your post on sciforums.
Unless of course you can back it up?? :shrug:

do you read ANYTHING you post about?

CHILDREN IN AUSTRALIA ARE NOT VACINATED AGAINST HEP A UNLESS THEY ARE ABORIGIONAL OR TORRIS STRAIGHT ISLANDERS, PERIOD, AT ALL.

Will you PLEASE READ THIS FUCKING LINK!!!!!!!!!
http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/nips2

do you read ANYTHING you post about?

CHILDREN IN AUSTRALIA ARE NOT VACINATED AGAINST HEP A UNLESS THEY ARE ABORIGIONAL OR TORRIS STRAIGHT ISLANDERS, PERIOD, AT ALL.

Will you PLEASE READ THIS FUCKING LINK!!!!!!!!!
http://immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/nips2

How does that explain why its idiocy for children to not be given Hep A and Hep B shots at birth??

good bye, your an egotistical moron who asks for proof and when given it simply ignores it. There for you are going to be the first idiot on my ignore list. FUCK OFF

1. shot is Vitamin K1 ( sounds yummy, huh), well it can cause the Newborn
to go into heart arrest! Yeah they tell you it is to prevent the baby from
clotting.. thats a good one.

I was one of the kids born before they started doing that. You have it arse - backwards, the K is to jump start your clotting mechanism and vitamin K uptake. Since I didn't get the shot, I ended up with a "vitamin K uptake and assimilation problem". My blood didn't clot, just like a hemophiliac. Had that issue until I was about 8 years old.

When I went to kindergarten, we all stood for the pledge of allegiance. I got a nosebleed from standing up too fast. It didn't stop. They called the hospital, they sent an ambulance. They used a cautery (kinda like a soldering iron) to stop the bleeding. That hurt, I remember it well to this day. After a few times the teacher asked me not to stand up for the pledge. No recess either. I spent a lot of time in my seat. :(

I got to eat almost raw beef three times a day every day for years. The docs hoped it would help my blood start clotting. Eventually something did, and it has clotted normally ever since. I am sure glad that I did not bleed to death. I am sure glad that they give babies that shot now so they don't have to go through what I did.

But hey - I didn't get that mean old shot that you are so scared of when I was born.

I was one of the kids born before they started doing that. You have it arse - backwards, the K is to jump start your clotting mechanism and vitamin K uptake. Since I didn't get the shot, I ended up with a "vitamin K uptake and assimilation problem". My blood didn't clot, just like a hemophiliac. Had that issue until I was about 8 years old.

When I went to kindergarten, we all stood for the pledge of allegiance. I got a nosebleed from standing up too fast. It didn't stop. They called the hospital, they sent an ambulance. They used a cautery (kinda like a soldering iron) to stop the bleeding. That hurt, I remember it well to this day. After a few times the teacher asked me not to stand up for the pledge. No recess either. I spent a lot of time in my seat. :(

I got to eat almost raw beef three times a day every day for years. The docs hoped it would help my blood start clotting. Eventually something did, and it has clotted normally ever since. I am sure glad that I did not bleed to death. I am sure glad that they give babies that shot now so they don't have to go through what I did.

But hey - I didn't get that mean old shot that you are so scared of when I was born.

interesting, wonder why they didnt just give you a vit K shot if that was your problem. Unlike most other vitamins, K is actually an emergency drug (used to counteract either Heprin overdose or worfrin overdose i cant rember which)

It was in 1950 and they didn't have that back then. That was introduced later on for just this reason. They really just didn't have a clue what was going on for quite some time, then it took a while before they came up with the answer - a vit K shot at birth for all newborns, Problem solved.

You must remember, this was back when every shoe store had an x - ray machine so you could see your foot bones in the new shoes. You could buy uranium orange paint off the shelf at the store, watches all had radium on them to glow in the dark, car brakes had asbestos pads and the gasoline all had lead in it for us to breathe. Like all of our plumbing, which also had lead in it. :(

We weren't real bright about a lot of stuff back then.