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gendanken
06-23-04, 10:36 PM
I've noticed the history section has no moderator.

Gendanken feels its time it should have one. Impartial and fair, she'd make a good candidate.
If not myself, then anyone who would be just as willing.

Does no one think that section needs a moderator?

sargentlard
06-23-04, 10:40 PM
Gendenkan.

Not really. The history forum is complacent and calm as of present. There is no dire need for a moderator.

gendanken
06-23-04, 10:54 PM
Soooo.....you're telling me the rule around here is a moderator is needed only for the noisy, feisty places?
Oh?

Then why do the Scifi and Psudo sections have mods?

sargentlard
06-23-04, 11:13 PM
I agree about sci-fi, it doesn't need one but Pseudo does. It got rather feisty in there untill Stryder stepped in. Banshee held the place down good and it was generally peaceful on its own untill it needed a mod again.

Fenris Wolf
06-23-04, 11:20 PM
Gendanken would do a fine job modding the history section. As it is, she's one of the more prolific contributors (of quality posts) to a variety of forums and has indicated interest in this for some time.

If there's a void there, fill it.

sargentlard
06-23-04, 11:23 PM
Yeah...if History forum ever needed one i'd vote for her right away despite my nomination.

invert_nexus
06-23-04, 11:33 PM
Scifi probably doesn't need a mod. Is there a story about how one got there to begin with? Was there a bunch of star trek bashing going on at one time? The Babylon 5 guys duking it out with the Trekkies?

I also haven't really noticed much going on in history that requires a mod. It seems that it is the way of the site to only fill spots if needed. Pseudo definitely needs it. I'm sure Stryder is busier than he's been in a long time in Pseudo. Computers is another forum that one wouldn't think needs a mod. Is there a story behind that decision as well? I imagine it would be good to have a mod in there to be a knowledgeabe source to answer simple questions when others don't seem to know. Stryder is very knowledgeable about computers.

I think that a mod for some of the other science sections might not be a bad thing. Mostly to keep cross-posting and posting in the wrong thread down. I know that other mods can jump in and mod sometimes, but doubt if they devote a lot of time to reading the various threads.

But if there were, Gendanken would get my vote. She knows her stuff.

gendanken
06-23-04, 11:48 PM
Is there a story behind that decision as well? I imagine it would be good to have a mod in there to be a knowledgeabe source to answer simple questions when others don't seem to know. Stryder is very knowledgeable about computers.

Hmm.

I wonder this as well.
But Free Thoughts is a hole crawling with trolls, the only interverntion by its mod being that of removing threads and placing them in the cesspool.
In all other places, I've rarely seen any moderator step in to share what they know or answer questions.
The position seems very British, with the royal sitting up on its throne doing absolutely nothing.
I want action- given the position I'd dedicate all my energies to that section instead of prostituting myself all over the forums as usual.
Biology already has a moderator- oh well.
There seems to be no real requirements for the position so long as the name shows up on the section as "Moderator"
So let me at it.

Wolfy:

If there's a void there, fill it.
Hear, hear.

spuriousmonkey
06-24-04, 01:06 AM
Biology has a moderator?

CounslerCoffee
06-24-04, 06:25 AM
Pseudo needs a mod, trust me. But what's all this talk about no scifi mod being needed? Are you people insane? Do you know how quick that section would go under if there was no mod? You haven't been around long enough to know certain things, and I'll let you know this; ST, B5, SW, and FS fans are very rabid. Mix them together and see what you get.

Thor
06-24-04, 08:33 AM
Sci fi does need a mod, if there was no mod we'd all know the storylines of the upcoming films/books/shows as they edit the spoilers. I don't want to look at a thread and go 'Why thank you for ruining that one...'

That's why Arts and Culture needs a new moderator, haven't seen Congrats around for over a year.

Stryder
06-24-04, 08:37 AM
Counslers right with his commentary, you end up with an SW fan stating that Wookies kick a$$e and a ST fan pulls a Klingon on him and all hell breaks loose. Just don't tell any of the fans their universe isn't real or there would be hell to pay.

Rick
06-24-04, 09:21 AM
As Far as i know,i cannot recall a single person(except for porf :rolleyes: ) apart from Stryder,who's been such an active Mod.Its like Cap. of a Cricket team in here.Whoever has become the Moderator of the Forum,has virtually stopped coming or being active.I think Couns and new breed coming up is strongly different from my view.Which is really good news for us...isnt it?


bye!

Thor
06-24-04, 10:00 AM
What about goofyfish? Isn't he a global mod?

sargentlard
06-24-04, 12:05 PM
Yup...so was Wet1 and Banshee...they left. This place really needs another supermod but I doubt there is anyone here Porfiry trusts to give that job to. Having a life must be hard on Goofyfish's duties to keep this circus of enlightened 16 year olds stable and running.

Rick
06-24-04, 01:41 PM
Goofy's O.K. too. Banshee and Wet1 were alright.
There was one more : Chris.(I dont know why isnt he posting more these days?),He was an excellent poster at Intelligence and Machines.The Forum has lost Glamour after Chris's absence...Chris,KM,Stryder,Dave discussing thing...Ah! those were the days...;)

bye!

Thor
06-24-04, 02:09 PM
If Stryder was more active in other areas I'm sure he'd be up for the running of a global mod

invert_nexus
06-24-04, 06:46 PM
I've seen James step in and lock a thread in one of the other science forums.

gendanken
06-24-04, 07:12 PM
Monkey:

Biology has a moderator?
Shites- you're right.

For some reason I'd looked and thought James the Biology moderator.
This means:
Biology section. I'm just as adept in this field as most around here. How about it people?
Gendanken for Biology.

(I picked on the psifi and psudo sections as last resort- don't know anything about them, so if I'm wrong then I'm wrong.)

Why does the Biolgy section have no moderator? No applications or no need?

Fenris Wolf
06-25-04, 09:23 AM
Yep, that's a poodle. I wasn't sure, but well spotted.

gendanken
06-25-04, 12:45 PM
Wolfy:

Yep, that's a poodle. I wasn't sure, but well spotted.
Surely.
And it suffers from Andysyphyllitis, how it comes back deleting its posts that way.

Never fuck with a woman's memory, is the mantra.
The deleted post went something like this:

Hathor:
"So gendanken, you think you can wag your finger in the biology section at Spuriousmonkey or James do you? You pathetic little cunt.
They should, however, have a whole section just for literature. I'd vote for you right away.
Even the whole a & c section, I'd vote for you there as mod too.
(here he quotes Wolfy and sayz):
At least Gendanken is not as vindictive as Xev, ja?
Here's hoping she meets up with an accident involving wild animals.
Its time for my prayer now....(followed by a bunch of jesus bullshit)"


To wit- you're a fucking moron. I never once claimed superiority to either the monkey or James in biolgy and I don't seek to wag my finger at anyone.
I said I was just as adept as most in the field- and that means every damn body in here. Any one of them could be a moderator, and my history speaks for itself.
Impartial and bias is my platform- I've had too many posts either deleted or modified without warning.

Fenris Wolf
06-25-04, 03:27 PM
Aye, I saw those posts.
My comment looks a little lonely now, does it not? It had them for company a few hours ago. Silly poodle.

gendanken
06-25-04, 03:32 PM
Silly, silly poodle.
I'm picturing strawberry fields strewn with canine parts and it *still* barking for attention in spite of the butchery. Strawberry fields forever....

Hathor
06-25-04, 04:19 PM
And it suffers from Andysyphyllitis, how it comes back deleting its posts that way.


Today, 10:05 AM
Calling people morons, fucks, bitches, etc. is not allowed here - if you continue to do so, you will be removed for a week - minimum. Posts have been deleted.

Rick

bah! i sense the end of days. tedious

Hathor
06-25-04, 04:48 PM
Surely.

i resent the mischaracterization tho am used to it. typical bitchlike belittlement

Never fuck with a woman's memory , is the mantra.

too bad you had to prove fallibility

The deleted post went something like this:

the admission of vagueness saved your ass from a brutal attack. yet i see holes that can be exploited

Hathor:
"So gendanken, you think you can wag your finger in the biology section at Spuriousmonkey or James do you? You pathetic little cunt. "

just bitch. (which is affectionate when applied to you) "pathetic little cunt" would have been inappropriate

"They should, however, have a whole section just for literature. I'd vote for you right away. Even the whole a & c section, I'd vote for you there as mod too. "

so? how bout some punani?
the rest seems ok. hardly a testament to a "woman's memory" tho. damn wannabe revisionist mod


To wit- you're a fucking moron.

well moderator goofball? just kidding. dont you dare touch a hair of my precious.

I never once claimed superiority to either the monkey or James in biolgy and I don't seek to wag my finger at anyone.

i know, darling. keep that thought in mind a year down the road. something to do with..paved..good intentions...blahh

I said I was just as adept as most in the field- and that means every damn body in here.

ok

.....and my history speaks for itself.

dont push your luck

Impartial and bias is my platform-

bloody red meat. hmm, freudian slip? blatant and cunning declaration of intent? oh alright.. a neuron misfired

Hathor
06-25-04, 04:55 PM
Silly, silly poodle.
I'm picturing strawberry fields strewn with canine parts and it *still* barking for attention in spite of the butchery. Strawberry fields forever....

you mourned, dahling ;)

fireguy_31
06-25-04, 05:52 PM
Personally, I think gendy... is the wrong person for the task.

Fenris Wolf
06-26-04, 09:23 AM
Then say why. If you have a reason at all other than she's crossed you once, of course. You do, don't you?

This is a reason why democracy is overrated - but that's something different. Porfiry should be more dictatorial, if benevolent - as I'm sure he has the capability of being from what I've seen. As a side note, Porfiry, quit mincing and appoint, and watch the results.

Read the threads she participates in - posters circle around her like flies, and if one takes the time to sift through the garbage the pearls are there for the taking where otherwise they'd be lost. If you want dross labelled and categorised and gold discussed, then Gendanken's your man.

My honest opinion is that she'd be wasted in history though. Give her Human Science and watch it bloom even more.

fireguy_31
06-26-04, 10:29 AM
This is a reason why democracy is overrated

Slow down Fenris , no need to start a revolution yet.


Then say why.

To me there are three types of moderators here:
1. The intelligent book-smart type who contributes greatly to, what I call, 'blue-sky' debate - nothing really tangible in their posts, lacking personal experience, but great for intellectual debate.

2. The knowledgable type who contributes to posts when, and only when, they have something tangible to contribute (have personal experience/knowledge to back it up) rather than just 'blue-sky' debating.

3. Finally, the 'has time to review threads for off topic ramblings' type - this type has nothing really good to contribute by way of posts but does a fantastic job of keeping discussions on track by closing, or moving, threads that go awry.

I think all three types are needed, they all contribute greatly in different, but equally important, ways.

In my opinion, the History Forum requires a type 2 moderator. Gendy... is a type 1 moderator, again, in my opinion.

The problem I foresee with a type 1 moderator for the History Forum is that their contributions may turn the discussions into philosophical debating, something I think is better applied to some science forums and all philosophy forums.

To think my opinion has anything to do with the person proper, is quite an insult. If there's anything I can do well, it is: seperate positions from personalities.

sargentlard
06-26-04, 10:37 AM
I would almost swear that Hathor was spookz....for a new member his grudges with Spookz's foes are very apprent and his style is more and more like that of spookz now.

Hmm..

gendanken
06-26-04, 11:06 PM
Sarge:

I would almost swear that Hathor was spookz
Bet the house on it. 'tis.

Fireguy:

2. The knowledgable type who contributes to posts when, and only when, they have something tangible to contribute (have personal experience/knowledge to back it up) rather than just 'blue-sky' debating.


And you envision type One a curmudgeon?

Hathor:
*relucatance*

My apologies. Won't touch a hair on your precious.

Fenris Wolf
06-27-04, 04:37 AM
Slow down Fenris , no need to start a revolution yet.

To me there are three types of moderators here:
1. The intelligent book-smart type who contributes greatly to, what I call, 'blue-sky' debate - nothing really tangible in their posts, lacking personal experience, but great for intellectual debate.

2. The knowledgable type who contributes to posts when, and only when, they have something tangible to contribute (have personal experience/knowledge to back it up) rather than just 'blue-sky' debating.

3. Finally, the 'has time to review threads for off topic ramblings' type - this type has nothing really good to contribute by way of posts but does a fantastic job of keeping discussions on track by closing, or moving, threads that go awry.

I think all three types are needed, they all contribute greatly in different, but equally important, ways.

In my opinion, the History Forum requires a type 2 moderator. Gendy... is a type 1 moderator, again, in my opinion.

The problem I foresee with a type 1 moderator for the History Forum is that their contributions may turn the discussions into philosophical debating, something I think is better applied to some science forums and all philosophy forums.

To think my opinion has anything to do with the person proper, is quite an insult. If there's anything I can do well, it is: seperate positions from personalities.

Revolution? I was rather advocating a more authoritarian approach from Porfiry.

I think that history could do with a little more "blue sky" debating, to use your term. Without it, it does become rather dry and rarely questioned. Secondly, Gendanken's historical knowledge (usually from an anthropological perspective) has often been displayed in other forums and I find it strange you think she has a lack of it. Rather than a professor with an area of interest limited to a certain few periods, it would be better perhaps to have someone with a broader general understanding of the subject across the board. Once interest in a forum gathers strength, contributors with interests in particular periods will show themselves of their own accord.

Considering that very few would have personal experience of anything outside the last half century at most, you're saying with your type 2 ... apply within - but only if you hold the relevant papers issued by whichever institution you were indocrinated by? Apart from this levelling the available candidates down to something close to none, it would lead to a state of affairs where the forum became little more than a place people post questions in order to finish their homework without actually having to do any research of their own (aside - I actually don't mind this so much, as long as it generates discussion).

My view is that philosophy and history (not to mention anthropology) are often very much intertwined - history without discussion of effect and the shaping of events afterwards is merely a statement of accepted fact in point form, such as one might find in a high school classroom. Such an approach by a moderator does not lead to any spirited discussion. The history forum as it is at the moment could certainly do with some livening up, yes?

...and in the light of what I've just said, I retract my previous comments regarding the forum Gendanken should moderate. She might actually do rather well in history, although I still stand by her suitability for human science as well.


To think my opinion has anything to do with the person proper, is quite an insult. If there's anything I can do well, it is: seperate positions from personalities.
Consider yourself insulted then. You would have some work to do trying to convince me that anyone is capable of being completely impartial with regard to this sort of thing. It is human nature to find reasons to vote for or against those we like or dislike. Not finding a good reason often results in the kind of disgruntled mumbling I just witnessed.

Oh, and for the record:
...Perhaps curmudgeons have gotten a bad rap in the same way that the messenger is blamed for the message: They have the temerity to comment on the human condition without apology. They not only refuse to applaud mediocrity, they howl it down with morose glee. Their versions of the truth unsettle us, and we hold it against them, even though they soften it with humor. - Jon Winokur

fireguy_31
06-27-04, 09:06 AM
*don't have much time here.... a couple observations...*


I think that history could do with a little more "blue sky" debating, to use your term. Without it, it does become rather dry and rarely questioned.

You may be right.


You would have some work to do trying to convince me that anyone is capable of being completely impartial with regard to this sort of thing.

quite easy to question my motives without having a reference point of my own, eh? lets see if i'm up for the task..... ummm, how about Tiassa? i think tiassa has, time and again, proven his ability to contribute constructively, promote somewhat of a 'blue-sky' debate whilst anchoring it to the topic. a trait i have yet to see gendy... display.

everytime tiassa has been called to the carpet he rises to the occasion. he stands with character and conviction to his viewpoints, makes convinving arguments all the while respecting the others character/position (something that requires soft-skills, again a trait yet to be displayed by gendy...) and keeps things focussed. he fosters debate.

on the other hand gendy... (no doubt an intelligent person), when called to the carpet, rises to the occasion on her ego alone (from what i've seen). i've whitnessed her deconstruct a persons character for no other reason than to strengthen her own view-point. now i ask you Fenris..., is this the type of person who fosters healthy debate?

gendy... would have my vote too if she parked her ego. lately i've noticed her doing that - keep it up gendy...!

tiassa has knowledge and personal experience (that personal experience has developed in him the ability to debate construtively with others - play nice).

don't get me wrong, sometimes i think tiassa is so high he doesn't even know what it is he's saying - nevertheless i seperate the person from the position [i concede, maybe that's something i can't do with gendy..., which is why i typically ignore her, although i could easily accuse her of the same]

I personally like posting in history, heck why wouldn't i, i've dabbled in it academically and personally. my fear is that gendy... will resort to her old ways as mod in there, that being the case i'd steer clear of it.

i gotta go.....
:m:

Hathor
06-27-04, 01:54 PM
Hathor:
*relucatance*

My apologies. Won't touch a hair on your precious.

i miss you. where art thou?
i also have no idea what you are on about

gendanken
06-27-04, 09:19 PM
Hathor:

where art thou?
Thy nightmares.

i also have no idea what you are on about

You: well moderator goofball? just kidding. dont you dare touch a hair of my precious.

Me: My apologies. Won't touch a hair on your precious

Idiota.


Fenris:
Durant writes a wonderful play between the greatest minds in our history, gathering them all (Anatole France, Voltaire, Wiliam James, Karl Marx, Gabriel Tarde, Nitszche, Hegel, Carlysle, Bossuet..on and on) in a symposium to speak about the meanings of history.
Through Voltaire he mouths the detriment that the biographer and the topogropher and the royalist have been to the essence of history- they were all patriots blinded by gold of their king and queens that each earned for their eulgoies. So in writing of battles and conquests, this biographer would turn a blind eye on cold fact and fattened his records with useless romance and deception.

Voltaire says:
"Only philosophers should write history. They will know how to distinquish the little from the great in the material they work on; they will avoid details that lead to nothing and are to history what bagagge is to an army- impedimentia; and they will look at thing in the large. The progress of intellectual enlightment, material prosperity and moral elevation is not onlya feature in the history of a nation, it consitutes that history."
- The Meaning of History

Those that have written our history have been patriots first, historians afterwards. This is why America believes herself great despite stealing her candy from a baby- King George. A senile.

Hathor
06-27-04, 11:51 PM
You: well moderator goofball? just kidding. dont you dare touch a hair of my precious.

Me: My apologies. Won't touch a hair on your precious

Idiota.

sorry pumpkin i should have been clearer. lemme try again

well moderator goofball?

goofyfish, what are you gonna do about her swearing?

i hastily add...

kidding! leave my gendy alone

you like?

Arditezza
06-28-04, 12:00 PM
I have a few reasons why Gendanken shouldn't be a moderator.

1. We don't need another Xev. We don't need another intelligent, but bitchy and abusive moderator. One per community please.

2. The ensuing "Should Gendanken be a moderator" threads in this very forum about 3-4 months after her inception.

3. She's way too big for her britches, and I think that what she says about her ability to be impartial a bunch of hogwash as she can not be impartial towards people in general. Moderators need an even hand, not a big red hand.

4. A possible territory issue arising from putting two hot headed women in charge in the same community. I assure you that you want to avoid that at all costs.

gendanken
06-28-04, 03:07 PM
Arditezza:

1. She's way too big for her britches, and I think that what she says about her ability to be impartial a bunch of hogwash as she can not be impartial towards people in general. Moderators need an even hand, not a big red hand.


And who the fuck are you?
Hmm.

I may know, but irrelevant- my platform stands. I've suffered mod abuse myself and know the bitterness of having a rug pulled out from under you.
People here don't fucking like me, as well dislike Tiassa.
However, I don't see the boy deleting posts on a whim nor brutalizing his privileges. This is my example.
What you choose not see or believe is your doing, not mine.


2. The ensuing "Should Gendanken be a moderator" threads in this very forum about 3-4 months after her inception.

Went the blind prophet with the big mouth and small feet.
How it knows this is clearly beyond me.


A possible territory issue arising from putting two hot headed women in charge in the same community. I assure you that you want to avoid that at all costs.
Wishful thinking always stinks of resentment, doesn't it? Camaflouged sewage.

Hmm. Wonder why.

Hathor
06-28-04, 03:48 PM
And who the fuck are you?

one that is older and wiser than you, my dear
your responses so far buttress her points

tell ya what gendy, we'll put you to the test. right here. in this thread
lets see if you can cope in a manner that is befitting a mod

so far shit like this....

Wishful thinking always stinks of resentment, doesn't it? Camaflouged sewage.

Hmm. Wonder why.

..do not reflect positively on you.

but then again, what do i know. i was a vociferous backer of the sharmoota, xev's, candidacy

hehheh

*why do you ignore my post? i hate you!

Arditezza
06-28-04, 04:22 PM
So easy to ruffle.

I've changed my mind. Put the bitch in. Seeing her have a complete and utter breakdown at the sheer stupidity of most posters might be amusing at least.

If one person can get her panties in such a bunch, imagine the possibilities. ;)


As for who I am, I am only me. I have never posted on these forums under any other names and have no other intentions or history. I have read your posts, and interpretted your intentions, thoughts and mind therein, as it is all I have to go on. Your petty little tirades, and absolute bullshit stinks of elitist posturing. Sad too, since you are capable of so much more. But I don't need to tell you that, you already know and have heard it a hundred times and yet you still wallow in the muck like a sad little lost duckling. Ah well.

gendanken
06-28-04, 05:29 PM
Hathor:

one that is older and wiser than you, my dear
your responses so far buttress her points

..do not reflect positively on you

Oooh.
Because I said fuck, huh? Because I'm not nice, yah?

Fyi: "Nice" derives from the Latin word nescius, meaning 'ignorant'.
In the 14th and 15th century this word 'nice' was commonly used as "foolish" or "dumb". In Chaucer's day, calling someone a nice person was not a compliement, nor was it a desirable trait.
Like 'naughty' the word has undergone what linguists call elevation, where with time a low word achieves more favorable connotations or meaning compared to its original.
Much like your name 50 years from now will finally be good enough to mean 'feces' or 'slime'.

That aside- there is no agenda. I feel people- all people- in discussions of any science deserves the respect of their moderators. To date, I have not seen it from even the most respected in the bunch, James included.
A grudge is the surest means to destroy authority, not enforce it.
And it has nothing to do with one's character not being 'nice'.


Arditezza:

If one person can get her panties in such a bunch, imagine the possibilities
Waaay too much credit, my dear.

But I don't need to tell you that, you already know and have heard it a hundred times and yet you still wallow in the muck like a sad little lost duckling.
That's fuckling, embittered fuckling. And its in need of a good lay.

Hathor
06-28-04, 06:23 PM
Hathor:
Oooh.
Because I said fuck, huh? Because I'm not nice, yah?

no. you are nice. when stating your policy, you say all the right things. infact, you say very impressive shit. i am willing to give you a chance. do what you will. you have my support.


That's fuckling, embittered fuckling. And its in need of a good lay.

mmm!
cmon baby!
you know you want to!
spank!
spank spank!
who's yer daddy!
spank!
say my name!
spank spank!
say my name, biaatch!

*where are my cigs?

gendanken
06-28-04, 06:39 PM
"where are my cigs?"

In your colon. Swimming in gasoline, and me with a match.

Arditezza
06-28-04, 07:21 PM
"All people who live subject to other people's laws are victims. People who break laws out of greed, frustration, or vengeance are victims. People who overturn laws in order to replace them with their own laws are victims. (I am speaking here of revolutionaries.) We outlaws, however, live beyond the law. We don't merely live beyond the letter of the law--many businessmen, most politicians, and all cops do that--we live beyond the spirit of the law. In a sense, then, we live beyond society. Have we a common goal, that goal is to turn the tables on the nature of society. When we succeed, we raise the exhilaration content of the universe. We even raise it a little bit when we fail."

It's all well and good to want the boom boom, but you have to enjoy it. Are you a redhead per chance?


"I love the magic of TNT. How eloquently it speaks! Its resounding rumble, its clap, its quack is scarely less deep than the passionate moan of the Earth herself. A well-timed series of detonations is like a choir of quakes. For all its fluent resonance, a bomb says only one word--'Surprise!'-- and then applauds itself. I love the hot hands of explosion. I love a breeze perfumed with the devil smell of powder (so close in its effect to the angel smell of sex). I love the way that architechture, under the impetus of dynamite, shedding bricks like feathers, corners melting, grim facades breaking into grins, supports shrugging and calling it a day, tons of totalitarian dreck washing away in the wake of a circular tsunami of air. I love that precious portion of a second when window glass becomes elastic and bulges out like bubble gum before popping. I love public buildings made public at last, doors flung open to the citizens, to the creatures, to the universe. Baby, come on in! And I love the final snuff of smoke.

"Yes, and I love the trite mythos of the outlaw. I love the self-conscious romanticism of the outlaw. I love the black wardrobe of the outlaw. I love the fey smile of the outlaw. I love the tequila of the outlaw and the beans of the outlaw. I love the way respectable men sneer and say 'outlaw.' I love the way young women palpitate and say 'outlaw.' The outlaw boat sails against the flow, and I love it. Outlaws toilet where badgers toilet, and I love it. All outlaws are photogenic, and I love that. 'When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free': that's a graffito seen in Anacortes, and I love that. There are outlaw maps that lead to outlaw treasures, and I love those maps especially. Unwilling to wait for mankind to improve, the outlaw lives as if that day were here, and I love that most of all.

"Victim? Your letter reminded the Woodpecker that he is a Woodpecker blessed. Your sympathies for my loneliness, tension, and disturbing fluctuations in indentity have some basis in fact and are humbly appreciated. But do not be misled. I am the happiest man in America. In my bartender's pockets I still carry, out of habit, wooden matches. As long as there are fuses, no walls are safe. As long as every wall is threatened, the world can happen. Outlaws are can openers in the supermarket of life."

from the book; Still Life with Woodpecker by Tom Robbins.

I think you'd like the story, Danky. You are starting to remind me of dear Leigh-Cheri.

thefountainhed
06-28-04, 09:02 PM
Why exactly do you want so much to be a moderator? This is not the first time you have literally begged to be voted a moderator. It amuses that such an insignificant bit of authority has you this bewitched. Perhaps it would be worth the laughter in seeing coolskill get the mod position ahead of you.

Good luck in your quest.

Hathor
06-28-04, 09:04 PM
arditezza

heh
i used to call her the dankass.

i however am the optimist. naive perhaps.
i like to think that people can evolve
lets give the kids this chance
positive expectations can make a world of difference

Hathor
06-28-04, 09:15 PM
i bow to arditezza's superior judgement
never listen to me again

:)

we really do not need these fucks in charge of us

gendanken
06-29-04, 07:34 PM
Good!

You see? Everyone here has seen it.
There goes the ghostly never never being who comes up behind you and pulls out the rug from under you.
I come back and sure enough, posts have been deleted.
No post, no warning, no message.
Only the coming up behind in the guise of authority to steal things in silence, the way little boys do in dimestores.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the habit of our Moderators.
Clyptomaniacal specters with no regard for the members that make this place possible.
Actions require reasons- posts from the lowest caliber to the highest should accompy a reason for their deletion. No matter whom, no matter why.

In all nations propounding the merits of freedom and truth, its leaders are to be held responsible to that credo.

Fountainhed and Hathor- you have been MOST useful.
HA.

Hathor
06-30-04, 09:10 AM
Actions require reasons- posts from the lowest caliber to the highest should accompy a reason for their deletion. No matter whom, no matter why.
HA.

crap
that shit was so obvious, it earned the hed a 3 day ban. flouting the rules in such a blatant manner and paying for it really requires no explanation. you all know where the line was crossed. if not, you really need to get a clue.

its not as if we are n00bs in here, eh?

you go ape shit on a rather innocuous remark with your jungle crap, hed responds in a alcoholic fugue....
what do you expect?

ps: have i told you lately that i love you?

Arditezza
06-30-04, 10:02 AM
Why do I feel like someone ripped a chapter out of this dime store novella?

Here's the thing. Hathor knows when he pushes the envelope and does it anyway (much to my delight, btw.) and were he deleted, he'd complain once and stir the pot elsewhere. You knew your posts were bordering, and you incessantly complain about their deletion. I've never had anything deleted, maybe it's just you? Why should they let you know why they deleted you, when you know full well you are fetching for conflict and crossing the line.

I am going to pull a fetusism and change my mind again. Paranoid delusional people should be medicated, not allowed to blather incessantly, intelligent or not especially not in roles of any type of authority.

gendanken
06-30-04, 12:04 PM
Aridtezza:

Why do I feel like someone ripped a chapter out of this dime store novella?

Novellas are for imbeciles rhyming with Contessa.
"Kidding".

On the serious:

You knew your posts were bordering, and you incessantly complain about their deletion
Uhm, perhaps you missed something?

Strategy- look it up in any millitary manual. I can sit here talking through my ass about the cute habits of our moderators but what better way to shoot my point through your skull than to show you one doing it right in front of you?



Why should they let you know why they deleted you, when you know full well you are fetching for conflict and crossing the line
Because it is the hallmark of a free society.
Because its easier to build a reputation than to live one down.
Because a reputation distilled from the anger and resentment of those we are held responsible to is the cutest littte formula for mutiny.

And because it is a leader's incentive to dote on his subjets the respect its his privilge to show.
In this, he enforces respect and his subjects reciprocate.

Do I need to go further? I'd make a wonderful moderater- screw you all.


Paranoid (paranoid, paranoid, paranoid, paranoid, paranooooooid) delusional people should be medicated, not allowed to blather incessantly, intelligent or not especially not in roles of any type of authority.
God, how you love that word paranoid, don't you?
You're watching me aren't you?
You've got my panties in your pocket...or a voodoo doll.
I'm not paranoid- but I have this nagging suspicion the world is out to make me so.

Bells
06-30-04, 12:30 PM
i like to think that people can evolve
lets give the kids this chance
positive expectations can make a world of difference
Hmmm... sounds like the hopeful words of a parent trying to toilet train their child.


I'd make a wonderful moderater- screw you all.
Heh.. I won't be patronising and say 'yes dear'.:p


God, how you love that word paranoid, don't you?
You're watching me aren't you?
You've got my panties in your pocket...or a voodoo doll.

Sounding like Wanderer won't result in the natives wanting you to have the moderatorship.


I'm not paranoid- but I have this nagging suspicion the world is out to make me so.
Yes dear... ;)

gendanken
06-30-04, 12:59 PM
Bells:

Hmmm... sounds like the hopeful words of a parent trying to toilet train their child.

More like a poodle trying on a different bark.


Heh.. I won't be patronising and say 'yes dear'.
No need- you'd never vote for me.
Its the happenings of democracies- freedom's good but it sticks an idiot in the White House.
Why?
Personality.


Sounding like Wanderer won't result in the natives wanting you to have the moderatorship.

Can't get that girl out of your mind, can ya?
Wanda, Wanda............*Wanda......*

Arditezza
06-30-04, 01:01 PM
I know very well about strategy, but apparently you yourself missed the point.

-This is a private board, where free speech does not have to be honoured or enforced.

-Reputation is a "victim" word for a perception of how others may or may not see you.

-Mutiny can only exist where there is possiblity of gaining power of the whole of very thing you wish to be in power of. Mutiny can not exist here, because there is nothing to take unless you plan on hijacking the minds and musings of everyone in the forum. Unless you can shut down the site, all your will to power is nothing.

Again, it will always be better to be the outlaw than the victim in all cases. Power means nothing to the outlaw, as it should not be power he/she seeks but a turning of the tables over society itself. In this case, the society is Sciforums. Instead of seeking power, find the TNT and light the match. If they delete you, try again. And if you fail, you will still have succeeded in making a mockery of said society. Don't be the victim, and don't try to rise above. There is no power to fight here, only a society to question and challenge. That is the real goal.

In short, stop being the victim. You have much more potential as a outlaw. There is a shortage of us around, dear gendanken. I am sure that Hathor would love to share his twinkies with you.

Boom Boom and all that jazz. =)

Contessa Arditezza

gendanken
06-30-04, 01:21 PM
Arditezza:

Reputation is a "victim" word for a perception of how others may or may not see you.

But still only a word. Exploited for self interest- making the case against cleptomaniacal fucks. A reputation.


Mutiny can only exist where there is possiblity of gaining power of the whole of very thing you wish to be in power of. Mutiny can not exist here, because there is nothing to take unless you plan on hijacking the minds and musings of everyone in the forum. Unless you can shut down the site, all your will to power is nothing.

Post this in those hundreds of threads petitioning the dismissal of certain mods.
All variants of mutiny, and modership is not power.
Its only shitloads of fun. No?



Again, it will always be better to be the outlaw than the victim in all cases. Power means nothing to the outlaw, as it should not be power he/she seeks but a turning of the tables over society itself. In this case, the society is Sciforums. Instead of seeking power, find the TNT and light the match. If they delete you, try again. And if you fail, you will still have succeeded in making a mockery of said society. Don't be the victim, and don't try to rise above. There is no power to fight here, only a society to question and challenge. That is the real goal.

Well, you spend half your time here dropping bombs and setting people's hair on fire and TNT looks like childsplay.
Honestly, you really think it advisable to tell someone as ill favored and mannered as myself to blow shit up with a fuse? HA!
I laugh at your general direction.


In short, stop being the victim. You have much more potential as a outlaw. There is a shortage of us around, dear gendanken. I am sure that Hathor would love to share his twinkies with you.

Registration date: 2-24-03 with an average of 4 something posts a day.
Spent blowing things up and bringing the house down.

Change of scenery, no? A more sophisticated gendanken.

Arditezza
06-30-04, 01:40 PM
Well, you spend half your time here dropping bombs and setting people's hair on fire and TNT looks like childsplay.
Honestly, you really think it advisable to tell someone as ill favored and mannered as myself to blow shit up with a fuse? HA!
I laugh at your general direction.

Laugh as you may, it's still wonderful advice. And ever so much more fun than the victim card. Do you care who favours you and who doesn't? Why should you? Ill mannered, I'll give you that but it's only adds to your charm and potential as an outlaw of the nth degree. Come on gendy, lets have fun with the little bastards. It's much more fun to laugh at their antics then it is to fight with them. Think of the pathetic little wretches sitting behind their computer screen waiting for you to post so that they can delete it. They, who lack the balls to face you one on one. They know you have valid points, even when you are being a dirty little bitch. They are of no use to you, except as cannon fodder. Think about how much they see themselves as victims of our wrath, and how much they feel they don't deserve it. Don't you pity them just a little? Why join them, do you think you can change them if you are inside their little circle? You are a woman of the world, as am I and you should know better.


Registration date: 2-24-03 with an average of 4 something posts a day.
Spent blowing things up and bringing the house down.

Change of scenery, no? A more sophisticated gendanken.

No, just a more diplomatic one that laughs in the face of such things. It's easy enough to do.

Contessa Arditezza

gendanken
06-30-04, 01:46 PM
Ard:

Think about how much they see themselves as victims of our wrath, and how much they feel they don't deserve it. Don't you pity them just a little? Why join them, do you think you can change them if you are inside their little circle? You are a woman of the world, as am I and you should know better.

Ahhh......trying to win the party over by cheap coddling, are we?
*So* see through.

No matter- bitch is right. I here now remove myself from any notions of modership. Back with the proles, as always.

In the words of Voltaire:
FUCK.YOU.ALL.

Hathor
06-30-04, 02:23 PM
told ya
"older and wiser"

gendanken
06-30-04, 08:07 PM
"older and wiser"
With wrinkles.

Arditezza
06-30-04, 08:11 PM
Yep. And battle wounds ;)

Mark of a weathered woman. I am content with that.

I have grey hairs too, lots of em. Or maybe that's just shrapnel.

Bells
07-01-04, 02:36 AM
More like a poodle trying on a different bark.

Ah but he's a cute lil old poodle:D.

Makes me want to put a little blue bow on the fur on his head and call him 'Poopsy'.



No need- you'd never vote for me.

You never know. I may or I may not. Right now I don't see any other candidates for the job soooo... there you go... I probably would have voted for you if you were a contender and your opponents had the personality of a gnat.


Its the happenings of democracies- freedom's good but it sticks an idiot in the White House.
Why?
Personality.

Then you're in for sure! You have personality. ;)


Can't get that girl out of your mind, can ya?
Wanda, Wanda............*Wanda......*

Hey! That was the dream I had last night... Wanda... Wanda.. Wandaaaaaa... Had I been a male I would have had an erection.

The other night I had a dream where I woke up screaming out Roid... Roid.. Roooiiiiddddd... And then I realised I'd fogotten to use that "special" cream again. ;)