10 is not enough. A few thousand years ago 10 were ok but times have changed. Although I'm not a religious man, a few more may be required. If you can think of some then please post them here.

One I think should be included is : Thou shalt accept all monotheistic religions as the truth.

Since there seems to be an overriding consensus amongst theistic religions everywhere that the one god they worship is the same deity for all, then it should be blasphemous for one theist to criticize another's religious inclination. It has been my experience that nothing good ever came from one theist libeling or slandering another's belief.

Moses actually got hundreds, but only 10 were ever spoken of.

Look it up.

Moses actually got hundreds, but only 10 were ever spoken of.

Look it up.

Yes but I somehow doubted the validity of commandments such as not boiling your kid in his/hers' mother's milk or going whoring after gods. (Exodus) Although I think this is wisdom beyond reproach and in fact probably more sensible than the first 10 I shall correct my OP. The official list is 10 and copying any of the lesser commandments will not qualify as a new one. I hope this clears up any further confusion.

How about a commandment to love each other as christ loves the church.

Thou shalt not shit on a public toilet seat.

Thou shalt not shit on a public toilet seat.

Personal experience ? lol

How about a commandment to love each other as christ loves the church.

I don't think JC worshiped in a Christian church or Muslim mosque, seeing how there wasn't any at the time. So that would mean all Christians and Muslims should head to the nearest synagogue?


nietzschefan....... Thou shalt not shit on a public toilet seat.

This act would probably displease all religions. So in keeping with the theme of a commandment that spans all theistic religions, it works. ;)

Meditate, levitate, defecate...... only few have mastered this discipline:D

Thou shalt not take the piss out of those with ambient deafness.

-=-

Thou shalt not worship.

Thou shalt not inflict sarcasm on those who can not understand it.

I don't think JC worshiped in a Christian church or Muslim mosque, seeing how there wasn't any at the time. So that would mean all Christians and Muslims should head to the nearest synagogue?

This act would probably displease all religions. So in keeping with the theme of a commandment that spans all theistic religions, it works.

Notice my tag line.

10 is not enough.

One is enough: Behave! Or else...

10 is not enough. A few thousand years ago 10 were ok but times have changed. Although I'm not a religious man, a few more may be required. If you can think of some then please post them here. ...

I don't know where you've been looking, but the legal systems of Christian-leaning nations are chocked full of "commandments" ...in the form of laws and rules. In fact, there are so fuckin' many laws and rules that we couldn't even put them on a post here because the size of the document would cause scifuorums to crash ....and maybe even crash the whole fuckin' Internet!

You want commandments? Laws and rules are commmandments.

Baron Max

The knowledge of god through experience breeds understanding that turns commandments into acts of will.

10 is not enough. A few thousand years ago 10 were ok but times have changed. Although I'm not a religious man, a few more may be required. If you can think of some then please post them here.

One I think should be included is : Thou shalt accept all monotheistic religions as the truth.

Since there seems to be an overriding consensus amongst theistic religions everywhere that the one god they worship is the same deity for all, then it should be blasphemous for one theist to criticize another's religious inclination. It has been my experience that nothing good ever came from one atheist libeling or slandering another's belief.
theres no need for 10 commandments,watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRYaMiP4K8

theres no need for 10 commandments,watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRYaMiP4K8

I've seen that before...Carlin was great.

Everybody seems to be going off track here. The commandments I'm looking for should be good for all monotheistic religions. I'm reasoning that it is one and the same god, not something denied by many monotheists. If there should be new commandments then they should encompass the entirety of monotheism. Each rule good for all the god religions.

What's good for a Muslim should also apply to a Jew or Christian since they share the same god. If God gave this the 10 to the Jews then they must be for all monotheistic religions or else we would have all kinds of guys named Moses running around everytime a new religion popped up:D

How about a commandment to love each other as christ loves the church.

As I recall the stories, christ hated the church.

You could just use the general purpose commend: No!

Seems to work on cats, dogs and children.

You could just use the general purpose commend: No!

Seems to work on cats, dogs and children.

It works on adults too if you display the right intentions :p

10 is not enough. A few thousand years ago 10 were ok but times have changed. Although I'm not a religious man, a few more may be required. If you can think of some then please post them here.

One I think should be included is : Thou shalt accept all monotheistic religions as the truth.

Since there seems to be an overriding consensus amongst theistic religions everywhere that the one god they worship is the same deity for all, then it should be blasphemous for one theist to criticize another's religious inclination. It has been my experience that nothing good ever came from one atheist libeling or slandering another's belief.

What a thread start..... "not enough' commands and 'nothing good ever came from............. slandering anothers beliefs"

SO which is it?

DO you want more rules or are you happy with following everyone elses?

Jesus said when he is gone follow Jacob

but he also (hated the church) removed the first four commands to homage.

He painted the picture of each being responsibile.

Mark 10:17 And as he is going forth into the way, one having run and having kneeled to him, was questioning him, `Good teacher, what may I do, that life age-during I may inherit?'

18And Jesus said to him, `Why me dost thou call good? no one [is] good except One -- God;

19the commands thou hast known: Thou mayest not commit adultery, Thou mayest do no murder, Thou mayest not steal, Thou mayest not bear false witness, Thou mayest not defraud, Honour thy father and mother.'


He said, he aint god and follow the rules.

Notice each rule is based in items that require no self over others. The reality is that anything 'wrong' you do will cause a 'LOSS TO THEN COMMON' (dishonor, yourself, your parents and God)


Notice the homage issues are gone (he knew then, the rituals and homage will be over) as to do 'good' is all the honor and appreciation to God any could ever wish for. Meaning; to be responsible to life and truth, then homage is being done by itself.

As I recall the stories, christ hated the church.

The church is the bride of christ. You're thinking of the pharisees (religious people).

As I recall the stories, christ hated the church.

pretty much

as the church hated him too

The church is the bride of christ. You're thinking of the pharisees (religious people).

not on your life

no christ ever liked church!

the church of mankind is 'life' itself

as you will either do 'good' or not

*sigh/blink combo*

In regards to bishadi's last post. I swoon.

not on your life

no christ ever liked church!

the church of mankind is 'life' itself

as you will either do 'good' or not

Ok I take my swoon back. The church is the group of people that will be born unto his kingdom and through his blood and he indeed loves them or he wouldn't have done what he did. You think he did it all for himself so he can spend an eternity by himself? He loves us enough to go through what he did to redeem us. He will allow us to get rid of our sin. I am part of his church and the grace that he has bestowed upon me is immeasurable. I have felt that love. I am living it.

Ok I take my swoon back.

perhaps look at the good versus just the face of adversity


The church is the group of people that will be born unto his kingdom and through his blood and he indeed loves them or he wouldn't have done what he did.

the children!

the future.

the one HE was when HE was in that battle; are the eyes that are truly seeking without the guise of accepted beliefs, paradigm or loss of hope.

such as, even if the immediate family, closest friends, peers and associates, may turn away from being absolutely positive the truth is held but not the body of mankind who is still seeking.


You think he did it all for himself so he can spend an eternity by himself? i know better as never is there an isolation from existence, God, mankind, life; it is them isolated opinions that are 'trying to jump out of the pond' that are losing themselves.


He loves us enough to go through what he did to redeem us. what redemtion? are you suggesting 'vindication'?

or perhaps you hold some magical ideology that twinkling the nose will just magically make everyone aware?

No! And i don't care how much compassion, care and Love a person can have; no one walking on water (unless ice) and no magic is coming to save the day; the magic is the choice a man makes to give of self for tomorrow................. and that's about all the magic you can even expect; the magic of choice! (rocks that can roll and know it is doing it)



He will allow us to get rid of our sin. no such thing; impossible

eg... is sharon tate coming back?

did you still feel the pain of the last atrocity?

did wwIII still happen?


I am part of his church and the grace that he has bestowed upon me is immeasurable. I have felt that love. I am living it.

so did/does/do Nitanyahu, Bush, Haggart and Osama Bin Laden

today is sunday; imagine how many will say the exact same thing you just did; TODAY!

perhaps look at the good versus just the face of adversity



the children!

the future.

the one HE was when HE was in that battle; are the eyes that are truly seeking without the guise of accepted beliefs, paradigm or loss of hope.

such as, even if the immediate family, closest friends, peers and associates, may turn away from being absolutely positive the truth is held but not the body of mankind who is still seeking.

i know better as never is there an isolation from existence, God, mankind, life; it is them isolated opinions that are 'trying to jump out of the pond' that are losing themselves.

what redemtion? are you suggesting 'vindication'?

or perhaps you hold some magical ideology that twinkling the nose will just magically make everyone aware?

No! And i don't care how much compassion, care and Love a person can have; no one walking on water (unless ice) and no magic is coming to save the day; the magic is the choice a man makes to give of self for tomorrow................. and that's about all the magic you can even expect; the magic of choice! (rocks that can roll and know it is doing it)


no such thing; impossible

eg... is sharon tate coming back?

did you still feel the pain of the last atrocity?

did wwIII still happen?



so did/does/do Nitanyahu, Bush, Haggart and Osama Bin Laden

today is sunday; imagine how many will say the exact same thing you just did; TODAY!

It will happen and its not magic. We suffer from an inherent ie genetic defect that will be removed when we are born again into his kingdom through his immaculate blood. This aint no fairy tale or metaphor or wishful thinking. This will happen. Its the secret of the holy grail.

It will happen and its not magic. We suffer from an inherent ie genetic defect that will be removed

that defect is ignorance!

knowledge is what allows 'mind' to perform true




when we are born again into his kingdom through his immaculate blood. a person made a commitment

the 'immaculate' was a mind making a 'choice'

same ability you have


This aint no fairy tale or metaphor or wishful thinking. This will happen. Its the secret of the holy grail.

the secret is knowledge (always has been)

'the word' is the last ..................... the name of the boss is the math to describe the process which is equally true to nature, mankind and existence offering the capability of mind to combine with experience and know it!

that is why the 'name' is the last word

knowledge has evolved and we are all living within existence thinking about it, awaiting, seeking, surviving; about to be 'free'

all by choice

that defect is ignorance!

knowledge is what allows 'mind' to perform true

a person made a commitment

the 'immaculate' was a mind making a 'choice'

same ability you have



the secret is knowledge (always has been)

'the word' is the last ..................... the name of the boss is the math to describe the process which is equally true to nature, mankind and existence offering the capability of mind to combine with experience and know it!

that is why the 'name' is the last word

knowledge has evolved and we are all living within existence thinking about it, awaiting, seeking, surviving; about to be 'free'

all by choice

I do not doubt that there is a real method. All of the things you've said here are true. There is science. There is math in regards to it. But what you're overlooking is critical and dangerous and that is, that there is something inherently wrong with us that is keeping us from realization of these things. There is a veil over our eyes. Is that not apparent to you? There is a gap in our communion with god and each other that needs to be bridged before perfection is realized. That gap is sin and you cannot overcome it on your own with your intellect and your will and your intentions. If so we would have by now. We will need an intervention. The gap must be filled. The connection restored. This is communion.

I do not doubt that there is a real method. All of the things you've said here are true. There is science. There is math in regards to it. But what you're overlooking is critical and dangerous and that is, that there is something inherently wrong with us that is keeping us from realization of these things.

exactly! the inherent issue is within the 'existing' knowledge.

one frame suggesting omnipotence and has oppressed mankind for almost ever

then the other is based on the 2nd Law coupled with the business of "church" (educational pursuits for knowledge).

eg..... the truth does exist and yet the 'community' wants the business of it verifiable or no playing ball. (ie... even as you are reading reality in most every discipline of knowledge; the community is unhappy because there is no 'collective' acceptance; even as each here, do feel what is real all by yourselves)

YOU (we the people) are who make a difference. All a single idiot can do is do the work and basically nothing else but to finish the 'unveiling'


There is a veil over our eyes. Is that not apparent to you?

a dah!!!!!!!!!!


There is a gap in our communion with god and each other that needs to be bridged before perfection is realized. That gap is sin and you cannot overcome it on your own with your intellect and your will and your intentions. tha gap is knowledge (the facts in truth)

and without awareness of your actions, very few can live without sin (because of the ignorance within the existing frames of cultures/knowledge/ the existing paradigm)


If so we would have by now. We will need an intervention. The gap must be filled. The connection restored. This is communion.

what do you think grounding knowledge to the last word is so important

as then it is 'fact'

and not a person ever to exist ever again will be able to take it away from the people (mankind)

what i think you fail to observe is that 'equality' between mankind

ALL MUST APPLY or "THAT" truth is incorrect!

and the very first commitment each must make before waking up (born again) is to be absolutely honest with yourself. (eg... if you had the truth, i would be able to ask you what 'life' is and you be able to define it; otherwise you like the majority; living within your ideas of truth rather than 'the truth')

for example; you are not on this planet to just state; "this is what i felt, saw, believe"......... you can share within objectivity but the best rendition you can ever impose as to your opinion and be credible to 'existence' is when you reflect 'absolute truth' (no false witnessing) as then you remain a 'good' addition to existence versus causing a tangent based on your personal belief.

think of us (we the people;mankind) and existence over yourself

and to me, if i was to EXPECT a rapture, miracle, magical mystical revealing, it best include every man/women/child to the truth or i question that belief as being biased against the over all good of mankind.

we are ONE, not them against us (unless they choose to be separate (away from the garden))

the good of people, will do by choice within the responsibility to their actions and by the truth of nature, will combine for the good of life (others) over themselves

the rest can go lay by their dish!

Most every religion would be 'good' if the people there of just followed the main rule; no false witness!

Then imagine if all people would do that by choice, knowing their life depended on it.

(good; supports life to continue

bad: loss to the common.......... the good lives longer, the bad fades; its the truth)

You think our intellect and our will and intentions alone will perfect this world? That is proposterous and evident. Eternal life is contingent upon perfection which is not inherent and not taught as a product of conformity. What you are describing is the aspect of communion in a theoretical sense, but if its not obvious to you that there is something inherent in all of us that repels communion you're missing something very important and rather obvious. What you're actually suggesting is the end times deception of the antichrist. That we can fix ourselves. That there is no need for christ. That there is nothing inherently wrong with this flesh we currently reside in, and that lie will trap you in an unescapable hell. You should be careful what you teach your children.

What a thread start..... "not enough' commands and 'nothing good ever came from............. slandering anothers beliefs"

SO which is it?

It was a typo. I meant theist and have corrected OP. I knew eventually that I would make a mistake like that. I was trying to suggest that if one god believer finds fault with another god believer then fireworks are sure to happen.

The need for more commandments is a facetious statement. I really don't care how many commandments there are. I just find it silly for the three Abrahamic religions to agree to share one god but not one bible.

The only new commandments I think that are necessary should come from god in an attempt to harmonize all monotheistic religions. There is no reason for one god to have so many different bibles. Just that fact alone suggests that all bibles are suspect for authenticity. I think it is up to theists to try an get God to bring them together in one book. You would think that if they agree they worship the same god then they would have the same bible.

Not bring them together in a book, but in life!!!

Not bring them together in a book, but in life!!!

Been tried...that's why other bibles keep popping up.

-=-

They don't agree to worship the same god.

The church is the bride of christ.

That church didn't even exist and there is every reason to believe that JC would have hated it even more than those of his day. It was founded by a persecutor of his followers. It was owned by the government and went on to persecute his people horribly.

It claims to be the "bride" of christ but that is just another of its lies.


You're thinking of the pharisees (religious people).

Look the word up.

The church is the bride of christ.

That church didn't even exist and there is every reason to believe that JC would have hated it even more than those of his day. It was founded by a persecutor of his followers. It was owned by the government and went on to persecute his people horribly.

It claims to be the "bride" of christ but that is just another of its lies.


You're thinking of the pharisees (religious people).

Look the word up. Oh, the church was founded by a pharisee.

It will happen and its not magic.

No it won't. IT will never happen and it is not needed.


We suffer from an inherent ie genetic defect that will be removed when we are born again into his kingdom through his immaculate blood.

No we don't and the rest is just a delusional fantasy. Things just don't work that way.


This aint no fairy tale or metaphor or wishful thinking. This will happen. Its the secret of the holy grail.

There is no holy grail, its just a story and not a good one at that.

You think our intellect and our will and intentions alone will perfect this world?

The notion of perfect is part of your sickness.


Eternal life is contingent upon perfection which is not inherent and not taught as a product of conformity.

There is no eternal life, but if there was a hell, eternal life would be it.


What you are describing is the aspect of communion in a theoretical sense, but if its not obvious to you that there is something inherent in all of us that repels communion you're missing something very important and rather obvious.

Your internal fantasy world has to be explained to other people. We have no clue what you are talking about.



What you're actually suggesting is the end times deception of the antichrist.

No it isn't.


That we can fix ourselves.

Just stop breaking yourself.


That there is no need for christ.

There was no christ and there is no christ and the was never a need for any christ. Its the biggest lie ever told.


That there is nothing inherently wrong with this flesh we currently reside in, and that lie will trap you in an unescapable hell. You should be careful what you teach your children.

Godders are always so slimy like this.

Our bodies are just fine thank you. There is no inescapable hell. Even xtianity can be left. I teach my children to think well and cleave to the truth. My son was quick to clue in to the folly of "t" worshiping all on his own.

You think our intellect and our will and intentions alone will perfect this world?

the minds of mankind will be able to comprehend the life 'we live' (primary objective of religious beliefs (like yours)in the first place)




That is proposterous and evident. perhaps to a soul complacent with not knowing. (but yet you say; 'i am the church' ..... means in one sense, you do not believe mankind will ever know and in you other breath you claim YOU know)


Eternal life is contingent upon perfection which is not inherent and not taught as a product of conformity.

such is what i have been sharing with you. The perfection to comprehending life is contingent on knowledge; not the old stuff (complacent within the confines of beliefs) but of the evolving truth.




What you are describing is the aspect of communion in a theoretical sense, Again, you are pointing at yourself...... i am not sharing beliefs of theoretical communion; it is your post claiming you are "the church" when in contrast the total of existence/mankind/nature itself, is where we live to learn.


but if its not obvious to you that there is something inherent in all of us that repels communion you're missing something very important and rather obvious. i am missing the requirement to be accepted.


What you're actually suggesting is the end times deception of the antichrist. i define 'anti-christ' as any who goes against truth.

if you fib to maintain your belief; then you 'anti'

in theology, the sect to create an anti christ is the same one that lies and suggests Jesus was christ..... (and HE wasn't and knew it)





Matthew 16: 20

Then did he charge his disciples that they may say to no one that he is Jesus the Christ.



john 14

15` If ye love me, my commands keep,

16and I will ask the Father, and another Comforter He will give to you, that he may remain with you -- to the age;

17the Spirit of truth, whom the world is not able to receive, because it doth not behold him, nor know him, and ye know him, because he doth remain with you, and shall be in you.



them theologies have within, well written, that the 'good guy' is literally the same one who unemploys the religins forever.

Ever notice the jewish rabbi's of jesus' time did not like jesus; because the truth removes the powers of church (clergy) (jesus didn't lie; the people after him did; with the material he shared)

Jesus was not the christ (per the bible itself)

That statement is not what makes an anti-christ but being against the truth, against the people-the children and against GOD (existence itself) is what i call an anti.

No one has a right to fib. So to fib, you anti!

Just be not following the rules (mark 10:19) then you a monster of selfishness (a bonafide anti christ).

Most every religion on the earth all share that a man will walk and will open up a can of whoop-azz simply by the 'unveiling' of truth (the revealing) to/for/from mankind.



That we can fix ourselves. That there is no need for christ.

every word you ever read or comprehended came from mankind and if Charman was not created by 'we the people' we would all stay stinky butts

the only thing the per se christ does is make a choice; the rest is from the people (the body of consciousness within existence) (that church you keep talking about is US "we the people")



That there is nothing inherently wrong with this flesh we currently reside in, and that lie will trap you in an unescapable hell. You should be careful what you teach your children.

i have done nothing but share truth while you tell us all 'god talked to you' then bring up christian dogma like a right winged christian evangelical, then cap it off by telling me to be careful what i teach my children.

i care for the kids to be capable of standing up while you lie thru your teeth


sorry Lori............... when you can humble yourself to not knowing without lying then you might be able to comprehend the damage you do to others by your own selfish choices.

"thou shalt not lie' is the rule; follow it

That church didn't even exist and there is every reason to believe that JC would have hated it even more than those of his day. It was founded by a persecutor of his followers. It was owned by the government and went on to persecute his people horribly.

It claims to be the "bride" of christ but that is just another of its lies.

i'm not talking about the roman catholic church. i'm not talking about organized religion or religion itself at all! this group of people are not indicative of any religion.




Look the word up.

pharisee - (1) member of ancient jewish religious group. (2) self-righteous or hypocritical person.

and add those two definitions together and it equals why jesus wasn't so thrilled with them.

Been tried...that's why other bibles keep popping up.

thank you for proving my point that there is something wrong with us. something wrong that religion and politics and intellect and philosophy and even good intentions or strong will WILL NOT AND HAS NOT EVER FIXED.

what i am saying IS validated by the entire record of human history to this very day!

gifts for swarm and bishadi...

*hands them both a pair of dark glasses and a walking stick with a white tip*

and bishadi,

as is proven, the more knowledge men receive, they either (1) use it for good (2) use it for evil (3) ignore it completely. you think that knowledge will change the hearts of men and their intentions? when in god's name has this ever happened? can you reference a time in history when everyone on earth converged in intent and in knowledge and all for the greater good? what on earth makes you think this will ever happen?
honey, that's a pipe dream if i ever heard one.

The notion of perfect is part of your sickness.

imperfection IS sickness. and you are just fine with the sickness? here you say no...




There is no eternal life, but if there was a hell, eternal life would be it.


here, you say yes...


Our bodies are just fine thank you. There is no inescapable hell.


why don't you make up your mind?

This aint no fairy tale or metaphor or wishful thinking.

No, it's all true, the invisible pixie that lives in your head told you, so it must be.


This will happen.

Can we press you for a date?


Its the secret of the holy grail.

I saw that movie, it was hilarious.

lori,

you are all over the place. One minute you telling us you know what is up and even put up this item about being blind

are you suggesting you have the knowledge and we must all follow what you have to say?

then below



and bishadi,

as is proven, the more knowledge men receive, they either (1) use it for good (2) use it for evil (3) ignore it completely.

then you show us 3 choices of observing knowledge


you think that knowledge will change the hearts of men and their intentions? what did you in?

let me guess; the knowledge was revealed to you pesonally, right? and we all 'less than' because we will not listen to you?

then when people do ask the questions, and ask how and what is up (what's the truth of life) you cannot answer or address a damn thing; but you still believe you got it!

lady, you ae funny and spinning around in circles

i see thru you because i see you have no intent of good (giving for others to understand)

all you want is people to believe you are so compassionate and aware of Love, but share that you care nothing of US (we the people) but of your own vindications


when in god's name has this ever happened? Never has and why YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LAST WORD (the truth)

why do you think knowledge has evolved so dramatically over the last 100 years; because the unvieling is in progress.



can you reference a time in history when everyone on earth converged in intent and in knowledge and all for the greater good?

can't ........... on a global scale as that bridging of nations/people has never been available on such a scale as today (internet/cell phones/communication capabilities)

never in all of existing time has so much knowledge been available to mankind




what on earth makes you think this will ever happen?

because i trust the pattern of evolution (just as words have evolved, comprehension is evolving; i trust the progression as natural)

most every religion on earth; says to trust 'existence' that the truth will come

seems best to maintain that 'faith' religiously! (in the sense, that the religion to maintain faithfully is that ONE DAY mankind will UNDERSTAND; just as all them religions told us to)



honey, that's a pipe dream if i ever heard one. allbecause it don't fit your plan as you sell your magical mystical god talking to ya kind of stuff

you like to continue your fibs and i like to open the eyes of 'all mankind' to see for themselves; IN EQUALITY!

meaning; your god talks to you only (because he sure aint talking to most all of us) while i suggest to know God in all that is.

You put god as some dude thinking about it, separate and isolated from mankind, i post that all of existence itself is GOD and we all learning from him/her.

i honor existence/GOD, you lie about, to and within his existence!

bishadi,

people WANT to lie. they WANT to hate. they PURPOSELY ignore the truth so they can continue to do the wrong thing (which is the very definition of evil). people WANT to steal. people WANT to be lazy. people WANT to be gluttonous. people WANT to be full of pride and hold themselves in a higher regard than others. people WANT to use and abuse each other. and you know what? even if they don't want to do these things, it seems to me they do them anyway! and if you think that some bit of knowledge is going to change that, you're out of your mind. there is nothing...NOTHING in the history of the human race that you can point to that indicates that will ever happen. NOTHING.

bishadi,

people WANT to lie. they WANT to hate. they PURPOSELY ignore the truth so they can continue to do the wrong thing (which is the very definition of evil). people WANT to steal. people WANT to be lazy. people WANT to be gluttonous. people WANT to be full of pride and hold themselves in a higher regard than others. people WANT to use and abuse each other.

now you see why each person being responsible to 'their' choices and what each impose to existence is 'their' responsobility

nothing magical about it as well the ONLY WAY to bring the masses to know equality, truth and the absolute, is with knowledge (nothing magical about it, as the reason the old frame is held is because folks never knew how it is possible for each person to know GOD personally.)



and you know what? even if they don't want to do these things, it seems to me they do them anyway! because 'they' (we the people) do not follow or have the same rules is because of the renditions are off.

meaning; you and i both know the compassion behind them rules but our difference is, you follow them by theology, and i follow them by understanding nature (god/existence: reality)

in 'beliefs' many question god's authority but of 'reality' none can maintain any doubt. Such that to know the rules of what makes something go up and down, then i know when to climb and when to slide. Almost like knowing what red, yellow and green is for; so i know how to choose and why.



and if you think that some bit of knowledge is going to change that, you're out of your mind. there is nothing...NOTHING in the history of the human race that you can point to that indicates that will ever happen. NOTHING.

see that is an ignorance, self decieving comment;

half of your posts are telling us how to think based on what God 'told you'

such the same, that most every religion on the earth still existing, all share that 'the truth will set you free'............ (they talk about the 'revealing')

the unveiling

the apocalypse

the bringer of good news

the messiah

the kalki

the pahanna

every continent and in most every tongue

My point is, you are not reading the messages within the religious doctrine

THEY ALL SUGGEST: one day the absolute in truth (what enables judgment) will come!

our (you and I) differences are based on the concepts of GOD

i see God as all mass, energy and time (the ONE, the TOTAL) in which we are all HIS/HER creations, evolved from HIS/HER light (life of mass)

to me, the garden is GOD and we learn from Him/Her

in contrast, your god is some dude who comes over to tell you just how ignorant we (mankind) are to ever believe "truth" will rule, forever!

i trust god

you like the words of ........cold jinn (time again)

basically, my god made man, who then created your god!

bishadi, i'm not telling people how to think, you are. i'm telling people how i think. and i don't think that we're that far off. i don't think god is some isolated dude and i've never suggested such a thing. my intentions are to give my testimony. my testimony is that i am not special, and everyone can be at one with god, whatever god is. and the theory that you have about god is pretty cool. but i'm not the one out here saying, "gee guys, if everyone just followed my rules in light of knowledge the world would be perfect." i'm saying that every one of us needs communion, and i don't care what kind of information you give people, some just won't want that. you think that the evil of this world will be eliminated if you get the knowledge out. i think the evil in this world is the turning away from knowledge. what good is your knowledge if people don't want it? i mean, how's it going for you so far disseminating this knowledge huh? i see how receptive they all are.

"Thou shalt not bogart the joint"

One hit is cool...two is pushing it..and three is a serious bogart. :)

"Thou shalt not bogart the joint"

One hit is cool...two is pushing it..and three is a serious bogart. :)

Puff, puff, pass.

That was a prayer.

Oh shit! Here comes the aclu! Here comes the po po!

Thou shall have no commandments.

Thou shall have no commandments.

This is one commandment that makes sense.

Thou shall have no commandments.

I like this one too. You win the prize spider.

FREEDOM!

-=-

Thou shalt make sense.

imperfection IS sickness. and you are just fine with the sickness?

Sickness is not imperfection. Its a part of life like any other. It is enough that it is unpleasant. There is no need to pretend its "imperfection" or "sin."

There is no eternal life and I seriously doubt if there was you could with stand the horror of it. You can't even face a mortal life.

You seem to be living a lie.

people WANT to lie. they WANT to hate. they PURPOSELY ignore the truth so they can continue to do the wrong thing (which is the very definition of evil). people WANT to steal. people WANT to be lazy. people WANT to be gluttonous. people WANT to be full of pride and hold themselves in a higher regard than others. people WANT to use and abuse each other. and you know what? even if they don't want to do these things, it seems to me they do them anyway! and if you think that some bit of knowledge is going to change that, you're out of your mind. there is nothing...NOTHING in the history of the human race that you can point to that indicates that will ever happen. NOTHING.

So why are you doing this? You cherish your lie og "god" in spite of the truth. Why are you so evil?

i'm not telling people how to think

Yes you are.

10 is not enough. A few thousand years ago 10 were ok but times have changed. Although I'm not a religious man, a few more may be required. If you can think of some then please post them here.

One I think should be included is : Thou shalt accept all monotheistic religions as the truth.

Since there seems to be an overriding consensus amongst theistic religions everywhere that the one god they worship is the same deity for all, then it should be blasphemous for one theist to criticize another's religious inclination. It has been my experience that nothing good ever came from one theist libeling or slandering another's belief.


Never heard of a guy called Aquinas?

Never heard of his take on plato?

Never heard of a scriptural commentary?

bishadi, i'm not telling people how to think, you are. i'm telling people how i think. and i don't think that we're that far off. i don't think god is some isolated dude and i've never suggested such a thing. my intentions are to give my testimony. my testimony is that i am not special, and everyone can be at one with god, whatever god is. and the theory that you have about god is pretty cool. but i'm not the one out here saying, "gee guys, if everyone just followed my rules in light of knowledge the world would be perfect."

but the understanding of the 'rules' of light (life) allows each to comprehend the foundation of good (to support life to continue) over bad (loss to the common).....that is equal to existence (mother nature).

to me the comprehension of the rules is the single greatest gift God (existence) could reveal to mankind

it is what allows us to think before each action and it be honesty true!


i'm saying that every one of us needs communion, and i don't care what kind of information you give people, some just won't want that.

that is like saying the child does not want to speak.

eg.... but to define the words they use, then the words can be used and be equally applicable.

suggesting some 'don't wanna know' is correct. Notice the majority on the board are all divided by what they have learned over time.

words can be used but few have the foundation of what them words evolved from.....

what was called "life" 2000 years ago is much different than today.

same with color TV's........

gravity is a word many use and 99.9999999999999999999999% have no idea what it is.




you think that the evil of this world will be eliminated if you get the knowledge out. teach the children what life is, that is bound to mother nature and in time all corruption will cease and if not, every person around will be able to judge, personally! (the ultimate equality)


i think the evil in this world is the turning away from knowledge.

now you singing a pure song! As them are who are the TRUE anti (christ). (the deceivers, the corrupt, the oppressors, the evil to mankind)


what good is your knowledge if people don't want it?

kind of like denying your child chemo because of religious beliefs; many are too stupid to care about learning what is good and bad, as long as they have a lie to lean on.

The knowledge will evolve with or without the community and the acceptance of people; see galileo, darwin, confucius, jesus, mohammed, bose.. the list is hugenormous!

Most all the greats were far gone and separated from their gift; hence much of what they learned is gone forever; because the people of the time were too stubborn, stupid, ignorant and self-oriented at the time the knowledge was conveyed.



i mean, how's it going for you so far disseminating this knowledge huh? i see how receptive they all are.

all over the world the change is occuring.

Google the terms; entanglement, casimir, vander waals or just bishadi


all over the world the changes are occuring!

I have been doing this a long time and like when i travel all over the country and hand out written material to the elementary, middle, high and university level schools; i sign nothing and care nothing for the namesake.

i have touched every contiguous state and have been on more campuses then perhaps any man alive in this country.

darlin, this is that time and you speaking to that idiot!

some give because they can, some for the namesake, some for a job; i do it because i care to give the next generations the chance you and i did not have;

the truth on the first pass!

bishadi,

i see the change occurring, and i like it when you call me darlin'. ;)

So why are you doing this? You cherish your lie og "god" in spite of the truth. Why are you so evil?

because it's a discussion forum silly. :p

bishadi,

i see the change occurring, and i like it when you call me darlin'. ;)

then whether it is me, you or God (existence itself) doing the deeds; it is by choice that we each give of self for others to evolve.

over time; the truth wil be perfected and each child dropped on their head will one day be given an 'owners manual'

so we can live!

(that is my church; the quest towards the truth)