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Challenger78
08-23-08, 09:32 AM
Under what conditions if any is it ok to hit one's parent ?

I recently saw a documentary, looking at the inverse of parental abuse, where perfectly normal children hit their parents. The documentary pointed to drug abuse, and violent tendencies in children as the cause.

I also know that it's pretty hidden from society, you hear about parental abuse, but you don't hear about the opposite. But that said, and (in defense of teenagers), Parents can get physically and very abusive at times..

So when is it ok to strike back ?, Or is it never ok ?.

Orleander
08-23-08, 09:38 AM
I would never hit either of my parents. Even if my Mom slapped my now, I wouldn't hit her back. I would just walk away and leave.
I suppose the only thing that comes to mind is protecting my kids.

cosmictraveler
08-23-08, 09:43 AM
Depends upon the situation. If a parent is really beating a child then the child should defend themselves and then call the police and get away quickly. If the parent is only spanking a child then there's no reason to strike back at the parent for discipline is something that parents are supposed to do. When in doubt, get out!

Orleander
08-23-08, 09:47 AM
If my husband slapped me, could I slap him back? If a parent slapped a child, could the child slap back? Does it depend on age?

cosmictraveler
08-23-08, 09:53 AM
If my husband slapped me, could I slap him back? If a parent slapped a child, could the child slap back? Does it depend on age?

Depends upon the situation. Slapping is not a very good thing and if anyone slapped anyone else then they should get divorced quickly because this kind of behavior only leads to more and more abuse. As for disciplining a child , I would never hit a child for any reason. There are many ways to discipline without hitting anyone. If you feel you must hit some child then you should seek a good psychologist for help because you have a problem with controlling your anger and also have problems with how to discipline correctly.

Orleander
08-23-08, 10:05 AM
.....There are many ways to discipline without hitting anyone. If you feel you must hit some child then you should seek a good psychologist for help because you have a problem with controlling your anger and also have problems with how to discipline correctly.

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cosmictraveler
08-23-08, 10:29 AM
i love you. :thankyou:


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Steve100
08-24-08, 04:11 AM
The only time I have hit my dad was either during a mess about fight, or a dead arm competition.

lepustimidus
08-24-08, 04:45 AM
Once you're an adult?

In self defense.

Or in retaliation, if they have a history of slapping you around.

If you're a child? Never, except in extreme cases of self-defense.

DiamondHearts
08-24-08, 05:09 AM
It is never OK to hit parents, no matter what. It is the highest form of disrespect.

Parents are allowed to hit children, but only in situations that other methods will not resolve, and they do this only for the good of the children who they are raising.

Our parents have raised us from infancy among countless nights of hardship, the least we can do is listen to them and respect them as we grow under their guidance and love.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said "Paradise is under the feet of your mother" and "he who turns away from his parents, God turns away from him."

lepustimidus
08-24-08, 05:19 AM
Diamond:


Our parents have raised us from infancy among countless nights of hardship, the least we can do is listen to them and respect them as we grow under their guidance and love.


You make it sound as if there is no such thing as an abusive parent.

DiamondHearts
08-24-08, 05:25 AM
Diamond:


You make it sound as if there is no such thing as an abusive parent.

I have never come across one. 99% of parents want the best for their children. If if one has an abusive parent (which from my experience is extremely, extremely rare), it is not proper to retaliate in kind. There are other methods to deal with this situation.

No child should ever hit their parents. Unfortunately, we need to respect our parents more than we do and I have noticed that many people fail in this regard. Even if we respect our parents our whole lives and honor them, I don't believe we can ever repay their love and their sacrifices for us.

Asguard
08-24-08, 05:32 AM
i begg to differ

"... 40,416 substantiated child abuse reports in 2002-03 - a rate of one child every 13 minutes. "

http://www.mako.org.au/ausnews321.html

oiram
08-24-08, 09:27 AM
Yes but there is probably more to those statistics than meet the eye, for me sensationalism is what comes to mind.

If you read carefully the article you linked it says 34% of the abuse and the highest portion is emotional abuse, and exactly what defines emotional abuse in these Oh so political correct times.

What about physical abuse and neglect at 28% both are also not defined, so is slapping a child considered physical abuse, or not buying new nice clothes for your child considered neglect?

10% of sexual abuse (I won’t argue this one)

But wait that is only 72% when added up, what makes up the other 28% or did I miss that?

shorty_37
08-24-08, 01:39 PM
You should never hit a parent a back.

The only time I could maybe see that is in the worst case scenario. Let's say a parent got drunk and was beating on you. I could maybe see hitting them back just to get away. :shrug:

Swearing at, hitting, calling parents bad names is very disrespectful.

CutsieMarie89
08-24-08, 02:09 PM
Never. I would never hit my parents ever. Even when your parents are abusive, you just need to get out. The thought would never ever cross my mind. Even if my mother were to hit me now I would never even consider hitting her back.

Betrayer0fHope
08-24-08, 02:21 PM
Parents shouldn't hit their children, children shouldn't hit their parents. Although my dad and I sometimes wrestle.. If you're parents are being abusive, and for some reason you can't get away, of course you should defend yourself.

Norsefire
08-24-08, 02:24 PM
Never. Under no condition unless you're being raped or something.


It's so disrespectful, it's beyond belief IMO; I never EVER did that, and if I ever did, my father would make sure I remembered it.

Asguard
08-24-08, 07:23 PM
Yes but there is probably more to those statistics than meet the eye, for me sensationalism is what comes to mind.

If you read carefully the article you linked it says 34% of the abuse and the highest portion is emotional abuse, and exactly what defines emotional abuse in these Oh so political correct times.

What about physical abuse and neglect at 28% both are also not defined, so is slapping a child considered physical abuse, or not buying new nice clothes for your child considered neglect?

10% of sexual abuse (I won’t argue this one)

But wait that is only 72% when added up, what makes up the other 28% or did I miss that?

i think you will find that its 28% for physical abuse and ANOTHER 28% for neglect

Asguard
08-24-08, 07:31 PM
also this is from the ABS and is there for likly to be VERY acurate.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/3CE0381F7CBAB608CA2569DE0024ED6D?Open

go down to the table which says
"C6.20 SUBSTANTIATIONS OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT, Australia "
if you hit edit, find on page and copy that line in it will take you straight to it

CutsieMarie89
08-24-08, 09:27 PM
It doesn't matter if your parents are abusive or not hitting them is not okay. I had an abusive grandfather, I hated him and was afraid of him, but I never would have hit him back, even now as an adult when I could easily win in a fight, the thought would have never crossed my mind. When I get sick of him I just leave.

lepustimidus
08-25-08, 01:44 AM
Cutsie:


When I get sick of him I just leave.


But you keep coming back for more?! Are you masochistic?

lucifers angel
08-26-08, 07:53 AM
Under what conditions if any is it ok to hit one's parent ?

I recently saw a documentary, looking at the inverse of parental abuse, where perfectly normal children hit their parents. The documentary pointed to drug abuse, and violent tendencies in children as the cause.

I also know that it's pretty hidden from society, you hear about parental abuse, but you don't hear about the opposite. But that said, and (in defense of teenagers), Parents can get physically and very abusive at times..

So when is it ok to strike back ?, Or is it never ok ?.

it is never ok to hit your mum or dad, it doesnt matter what they have done, you should have respect for each other.

i was hit and bullied by my oldest child for a long time, and one day i stood up and punched him in the nose he ahs not hit me ever since, and i dont think he will.

and in the same instance, perants should not hit they're child in an abusive manner either so it shouold never arise

cosmictraveler
08-26-08, 07:54 AM
it is never ok to hit your mum or dad, it doesnt matter what they have done, you should have respect for each other.

What if they are beating you and blood is coming out of your mouth?

lucifers angel
08-26-08, 08:00 AM
What if they are beating you and blood is coming out of your mouth?

i have been there and not once did i hot my mum untill i was 19, then i flew for her, and i regretted it ever since,

the perants should not be in a situation where they are volitile and the kids should perhaps walk away¬!

Challenger78
08-26-08, 08:28 AM
it is never ok to hit your mum or dad, it doesnt matter what they have done, you should have respect for each other.

i was hit and bullied by my oldest child for a long time, and one day i stood up and punched him in the nose he ahs not hit me ever since, and i dont think he will.

and in the same instance, perants should not hit they're child in an abusive manner either so it shouold never arise

Why were you bullied ?.

lucifers angel
08-26-08, 09:01 AM
Why were you bullied ?.

he had mental problems and in fact he still does, and he couldnt handle it very well, and i was just caught in hte cross fire, its no excuse but he is sorry for waht he did and he ahs promised he will never do it again, and so far he hasnt

CutsieMarie89
08-26-08, 12:28 PM
Cutsie:


But you keep coming back for more?! Are you masochistic?

I didn't come to see him. He was just sort of a package with my grandmother. When ever she came over so did he and whenever I had to go visit them he was there. I was little I didn't have a choice in whether he came over my parents house or not. Now he's dead, so I don't see him too often.

Orleander
08-26-08, 07:16 PM
...Now he's dead, so I don't see him too often.

LO, I would hope you wouldn't see him at all. <shudder>

CutsieMarie89
08-26-08, 07:26 PM
My grandmother goes to visit his grave, but I don't. Of course I don't believe in visiting graves anyway. But if she asked me to accompany her I would. I would be doing that for her though not her drunkard of a husband.

Orleander
08-26-08, 07:27 PM
she praying for his soul? Can you pray a person out of hell?

Carcano
08-26-08, 07:30 PM
Becoming a parent does not automatically make you lovable..or even respectable.

Some of the worst human beings who ever lived were parents.

Orleander
08-26-08, 07:33 PM
does?

CutsieMarie89
08-26-08, 07:34 PM
Becoming a parent does automatically make you lovable..or even respectable.

Some of the worst human beings who ever lived were parents.

It doesn't matter. Its would still be wrong in my book.

CutsieMarie89
08-26-08, 07:35 PM
she praying for his soul? Can you pray a person out of hell?

She goes to talk to him. Its more of a "lonley I miss you sort of thing". I don't miss him.

StrangerInAStrangeLa
09-01-08, 10:56 PM
Children learn what they live.