In 2010, Colorado (our thinnest state) is fatter than our fattest state (Louisiana) in 1991.


Watch this (http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/340908/july-07-2010/thought-for-food---kentucky-tuna---grilled-cheese-burger-melt) and skip ahead to aprox. 4:00.


I always loved George Carlin (RIP). Watch his views on obesity here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ&feature=related), skip ahead to exactly 2:40.


So what say you on Obesity? I don't know how franchises can conceive of something like The grilled cheese burger melt, and then consumers say "gee, that looks real good" And buy it. I mean you have the right to buy whatever you want, and eat whatever you want, sure. But shouldn't there be a point where we step back and say Wow, maybe we're going a bit overboard with some of these dishes. Why haven't we gotten to that point yet? What is it going to take for us to realize that we have a weight problem?

Many weight problems are medical\biological in nature. Two people, even parent\child, can develop very differently and even eat basically the same things and amounts.

Don't blame the food, blame the automobile.

Diabetics tend to get very overweight and most dont really eat more than a fit person. Afa exercise, it is hard to do exercises when your body has little spare energy. I am average weight myself.

So what say you on Obesity? I don't know how franchises can conceive of something like The grilled cheese burger melt, and then consumers say "gee, that looks real good" And buy it. I mean you have the right to buy whatever you want, and eat whatever you want, sure. But shouldn't there be a point where we step back and say Wow, maybe we're going a bit overboard with some of these dishes. Why haven't we gotten to that point yet? What is it going to take for us to realize that we have a weight problem?

Don't you listen to them? They're not fat, they're just big boned. And like, their lives are like, totally in the hands of god, so if he wants them to be fat, then that's like, totally their purpose or something....

Don't blame the food, blame the automobile.

Good point! If cars didn't have extra extra extra large cupholders they wouldn't have to buy the mega multi excel double double milkshake!
Mystery solved.

Oftren times the medical condition is not jet able to be fully diagnosed. This is a sign of changes taking place in the body of the subject. I suspect that future diseases can, in fact, be diagnosed, way ahead of their complete fruition whereas they sre first recognized.

Just new released infoirmation (seen here) indicates that perhaps diseases are giving us what some would refer to as a signature- indiction before the disease shows meaning they are dormant for decades. This signature is evident in the incidence of the subjects predisposiiopn to be overweight or underweight. Now this is known does not mean people should think about this as it can be a lifetime to show up. Foe even if a human lives to be 100 does not mean they were healthy when they died. Meaning one must die from something.

That being said, a thin human will have some other malady so dont view this as an overall perspective on the health of the subject.

My grandmother, a genius, would yell at joggers passing by: "No one dies healthy. you fool." whaaa, ha ha ha ha.

Good point! If cars didn't have extra extra extra large cupholders they wouldn't have to buy the mega multi excel double double milkshake!
Mystery solved.

<soapbox>If we hadn't engineered our living arrangements so that it is impossible to do anything without driving there, we wouldn't be such fat-asses.</soapbox>

The evidence for this is that Europeans aren't as fat but they do eat very rich food.

Anyone who orders that is a pig.

So what say you on Obesity? I don't know how franchises can conceive of something like The grilled cheese burger melt, and then consumers say "gee, that looks real good" And buy it. I mean you have the right to buy whatever you want, and eat whatever you want, sure. But shouldn't there be a point where we step back and say Wow, maybe we're going a bit overboard with some of these dishes. Why haven't we gotten to that point yet? What is it going to take for us to realize that we have a weight problem?

McDonald's did shift its focus. You wouldn't actually order their salads but their very existence shows that corporation's painful identity crisis faced with a shrinking market. US cultural imperialism means we've all at various times consumed the patties of death and the drinks that accompany them. And - let's not be churlish here - even enjoyed them. But these outlets don't do anything called small. The smallest beverage is what we Europeans would call large. Their medium is an ice bucket, and their large would put out the Great Fire of London.

Likewise in multiplex cinemas. There was more fresh food on the unmanned mission to Mars than in the food halls through which we funnel to get to the film.

Has your government got a national strategy for educating people about healthy eating? In Britain we've been bombarded with advice in recent years about eating five fruit or vegetables a day, for instance. Celebrity chefs have tried to sort out healthier school meals, and the likes of Joan Collins and the Duchess of York have gone into fat people's homes. No-one actually believes that burgers grow on trees or that Coca-Cola comes from natural springs in Wyoming, but you can't be too careful.

Many weight problems are medical\biological in nature. Two people, even parent\child, can develop very differently and even eat basically the same things and amounts.


So biology is to blame for the things they buy? They can't control whether or not they buy a Triple baconator for medical reasons?

Anyone who orders that is a pig.

My dogs wouldn't even eat that, and Kelby eats her own poo.

Here's some amusing pictures I've found:

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129187364218738287.jpg

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/a6200d45-1337-419c-be54-b9212d43f0c8.jpg

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/11/21/129032704203425251.jpg

And some more:

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/3/13/129129889222592515.jpg

I almost wonder if that belly showing below the dress is photo-shopped.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/2/4/129097831488233085.jpg

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/6/129072777580647809.jpg

<soapbox>If we hadn't engineered our living arrangements so that it is impossible to do anything without driving there, we wouldn't be such fat-asses.</soapbox>

The evidence for this is that Europeans aren't as fat but they do eat very rich food.

Not necessarily the car per se, but longer duration of transport in general, how much excercise do you get on the Bus? Train? Airplane? At least in the car your legs are moving for the pedals, and maybe your arm if you change the stereo.....

People just need to take more responsibility for their own health really, and a lot of jobs could be done from home, cutting down on travel, and allowing for more time to excercise. Of course right now we have more sedentary jobs which go on for long hours too.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/6/129072777580647809.jpg
Is that what they meant when they talked about the huge size of Uranus? Apart from that she isn't bad.

Not necessarily the car per se, but longer duration of transport in general, how much excercise do you get on the Bus? Train? Airplane? At least in the car your legs are moving for the pedals, and maybe your arm if you change the stereo.....

People just need to take more responsibility for their own health really, and a lot of jobs could be done from home, cutting down on travel, and allowing for more time to excercise. Of course right now we have more sedentary jobs which go on for long hours too.

You have to walk to the train station, and they are in urban areas anyway, so you wouldn't need a car.

You have to walk to the train station, and they are in urban areas anyway, so you wouldn't need a car.

Whether you drive or walk to a station is a personal choice, and is dependant on how near it is. Consider this, if it's far away, people will drive or get a connecting bus, if it is near, just how much excercise are they getting anyway?
Not everyone can live in urban areas of course, and I imagine most country folk and people who work less sedentary jobs are less likely to be obese, but these jobs are not common. Working in a high rise with an elevator and sitting at your desk all day is far more common. I also think it matters if you're customer facing, not many representatives are obese as it's considered a negative image.

Why can't more people live in urban areas? Dense population centers require less driving and allow more walking.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7B4SYZgQ5FY/SwoyyEL4IfI/AAAAAAAAAyo/bNBxByVb6qQ/s400/fat_women_in_bikinis.jpg

Why can't more people live in urban areas? Dense population centers require less driving and allow more walking.

I agree, we only need rural areas for farmland, everyone else should be moved to the slums... er, I mean cities. We could probably produce a much more efficient society.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7B4SYZgQ5FY/SwoyyEL4IfI/AAAAAAAAAyo/bNBxByVb6qQ/s400/fat_women_in_bikinis.jpg

Spot the whale competition?

Lol, I should bottle my metabolism and sell it around the world.

I eat shitloads of grease, and my body fat level is 16% when I'm *sedentary*.

Lol, I should bottle my metabolism and sell it around the world.

I eat shitloads of grease, and my body fat level is 16% when I'm *sedentary*.

You know, type II Diabetes isn't just a fat person disease anymore. And just so you know, cardiovascular disease and diabetes are comorbid.

Lol, I should bottle my metabolism and sell it around the world.

Same. If we agree a price we could both be rich. ;)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7B4SYZgQ5FY/SwoyyEL4IfI/AAAAAAAAAyo/bNBxByVb6qQ/s400/fat_women_in_bikinis.jpg


I bet none of them could find their own penis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7W5tKRapWA).

for the most part, some people just value shoving junk food down their pie holes more than they value their health. same could be said for smoking, and drinking too much, and many other aspects of our lifestyles. it's no mystery. but perhaps it's a passive-aggressive suicide attempt?

I bet none of them could find their own penis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7W5tKRapWA).

I knew a stewie vid was coming.

for the most part, some people just value shoving junk food down their pie holes more than they value their health. same could be said for smoking, and drinking too much, and many other aspects of our lifestyles. it's no mystery. but perhaps it's a passive-aggressive suicide attempt?

I don't know anyone who doesn't eat too much, drink too much, or smoke too much. Heck you could argue having lots of sex is a passive-aggressive suicide attempt too as you're bound to catch something serious eventually. That leaves about 3% of the global population. So maybe we should just let nature take its course and thin out our numbers? It has to happen eventually.

I don't know anyone who doesn't eat too much, drink too much, or smoke too much. Heck you could argue having lots of sex is a passive-aggressive suicide attempt too as you're bound to catch something serious eventually. That leaves about 3% of the global population. So maybe we should just let nature take its course and thin out our numbers? It has to happen eventually.

i'll keep saying it...there is something wrong with us. :itold:

I bet none of them could find their own penis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7W5tKRapWA).


I am just thankful that they aren't looking for mine ;)

The increasing overweight issue in the western world directly correlates with the increasing official advice that people should eat high carbohydrates and low fat, with tons of fruit and vegetables. This advice started back in the 1950s and has tracked very well with epidemics in diabetes II, CAD, and cancer. All of which were rare in the earlier decades.

Diabetes II is a disease caused by excessive consumption of carbohydrates. It is entirely preventable, but still official advice is to eat more carbs.

There are no essential carbs, the human body does not need any.

There is also NO science that shows a link between fat and heart disease outside of the presence of carbohydrates.

Body fat is caused by excess carbohydrates. Stop eating carbs and the problem goes away.

Dietary fat is the body's preferred source of energy - i.e. keytones.

In carbohydrate metabolism all carbs are converted to glucose. The body needs to rid the blood of glucose quickly since it will become toxic. Insulin enables cells to take up glucose for energy and any excess glucose is then stored as body fat. Eat more carbs than you need and you will become fat.

In fat metabolism, (only occurs when glucose levels are low, i.e. under low or zero carb conditions) the fat is converted to keytone molecules that the cells can use as energy. The good part here is that any excess keytones leave the body in the urine and do not lead to fat deposits.

An ideal diet is around 40% fat, 60% protein, 0% carbs. The body still needs some glucose and it will convert any dietary protein as it needs it (i.e. no excess).

The brain is 65% fat, and the heart requires fat to function correctly.

Fat is essential for a healthy life and for efficient energy production. And protein is essential for body structure.

In other words the official advice of high carbs and low fat is directly the reverse of human requirements and hence we should not be surprised that we have epidemics of obesity, diabetes, CAD, and cancer.

It is estimated that the current generation is likely to see a reduction in longevity because we are now seeing an increase in child obesity and heart disease. This is a direct result of the idiotic dietary advice that we are all being FED.

See this May 2010 article from Scientific American - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbs-against-cardio

Quote - Processed carbohydrates, which many Americans eat today in place of fat, may increase the risk of obesity, diabetes and heart disease more than fat does—a finding that has serious implications for new dietary guidelines expected this year.

Quote - The finding joins other conclusions of the past few years that run counter to the conventional wisdom that saturated fat is bad for the heart because it increases total cholesterol levels. That idea is “based in large measure on extrapolations, which are not supported by the data,” Krauss says.

Note that simple carbs like fruit juice are converted to glucose very quickly. If that energy is not used immediately then fat deposits will be the result. Great for an athlete but poisonous to everyone else. Fruit - nice package of vitamins wrapped in deadly poison. Eat animal products instead - they contain all the vitamins needed.

I agree, we only need rural areas for farmland, everyone else should be moved to the slums... er, I mean cities. We could probably produce a much more efficient society.

There is no real reason why cities need to be slums. They can be made more attractive. This is the whole reason behind the New Urbanist movement.

There is no real reason why cities need to be slums. They can be made more attractive. This is the whole reason behind the New Urbanist movement.

Of course, I probably came across far more sarcastic than I meant to.
Cities have always been centres for dirt, crime, poor living conditions(for those who aren't exceedingly wealthy) etc. This mostly stems from being a natural consequence of packing too many people into a tight space, and as much as I agree that it is preventable; the world would need a radical change to move away from this. Many countries are terrible at managing space effectively, with Japan possibly being one of the few exceptions.
It may actually end up being a case of essentially demolishing large areas and rebuilding them to be effecient. It's almost ironic in how wasteful that policy would be though.

Oh my God. I need to see Anti Flag at a non Warped setting... those Chicago dates look inviting.

An ideal diet is around 40% fat, 60% protein, 0% carbs.
Holy cow.

Holy cow.

you mean the stupidity of his comments?

http://www.aihw.gov.au/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=6442454958

you mean the stupidity of his comments?

http://www.aihw.gov.au/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=6442454958

Are you the same guy that insisted the body cannot convert protein to glucose?

Spot the whale competition?

That's disgusting.
The one on the right is a cutie though.

I always loved George Carlin (RIP). Watch his views on obesity here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLRQvK2-iqQ&feature=related), skip ahead to exactly 2:40.




That is damn funny.
Worth watching from start to finish.
George Carlin.
Why did I never hear of him before?

That's disgusting.
The one on the right is a cutie though.

:puke:

I like curves, but I don't date anything that has it's own gravitational pull.
Never again.

Fat chicks are fun to ride.