just started yesterday this is the hardest workout i have ever done! monday while i was doing pushups found myself waking up on the floor haha blacked out.. pushed myself a bit to hard yesterday was poly. whole body is sore! wonder what today will bring :")

I've heard about it. It does look intense. I actually thought of getting it.

make sure you stick with it, a lot of people start it and never finish it :) good luck

...never finish it...

because they over do it, to the point of risking their lives.

...never finish it...

because they over do it, to the point of risking their lives.

And on what do you base this statement?

Can someone tell me where to begin with this workout?

I want to get more in shape.

And on what do you base this statement?


Mr. Marunde, who was born in Glennallan, Alaska, but raised in Sequim, collapsed and died Wednesday night while working out at his gym in Sequim.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2007/07/27/2003809504.jpg


Jesse Marunde won a local strongman event this spring in Sequim.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/othersports/2003809644_jesse28.html

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Soul legend ISAAC HAYES died during a workout on his treadmill, police investigating his death believe.



http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/hayes-died-working-out_1076981

Can someone tell me where to begin with this workout?

I want to get more in shape.

well before you begin a workout, consult a doctor, if you are healthy to do so. Pushing yourself to far, will lead to death.

But of course you can do it in moderation, so start by jogging and see where your body is at.

well before you begin a workout, consult a doctor, if you are healthy to do so. Pushing yourself to far, will lead to death.

But of course you can do it in moderation, so start by jogging and see where your body is at.

I already exercise regularly, but I want to step it up a notch. Or two.

I already exercise regularly, but I want to step it up a notch. Or two.

well do it smart. Don't do it where you "blackout" like OP is doing it. :rolleyes:

Like I used to train weith "weights" while jogging. 20lb vest.

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/othersports/2003809644_jesse28.html

http://gentlebear.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/isaac-hayes-04.jpg





http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/hayes-died-working-out_1076981

Did any of them die using P90x?

I have P90x. I paid the full frakking price and never finished it. Yeah, it was hard, but the real issue is that Tony Horton is so fucking annoying.

~String

...never finish it...

because they over do it, to the point of risking their lives.

Weren't you the guy who documented, on this forum, your foray into self-starvation?

I already exercise regularly, but I want to step it up a notch. Or two.

you dont need to consult a doctor. unless you have a heart condition.. get yo urself a heartrate monitor.. find your target heartrate.. try not to go over it.. i suggest starting on mondy with chest/back.. eat how the guide tells you to do so too a healty diet is 70% of losing weight imo and lastly stick to it

just started yesterday this is the hardest workout i have ever done! monday while i was doing pushups found myself waking up on the floor haha blacked out.. pushed myself a bit to hard yesterday was poly. whole body is sore! wonder what today will bring :")

Here's the deal. If you want to obtain a quick muscle gain and tone look go for it, but its not healthy in my opinion. The people who should do P90x are those who have been working out for a few months. I suggest take the "muscle confusion" concept, the total body workouts, and the intensity at your own pace. Do you want a healthy body or a ugly tone, which it will give you lol, crooked abed MFers, and an unhealthy body? Its your life, but you wanted suggestions. Itll work if you stick to it i'm sure, but I just don't like what they are selling.

I already exercise regularly, but I want to step it up a notch. Or two.

Then change up routine. For instance do smaller weights with more reps. In between your bench sets, do back pull downs. DO CORE!!!

I have P90x. I paid the full frakking price and never finished it. Yeah, it was hard, but the real issue is that Tony Horton is so fucking annoying.

~String

Lol, I've seen my dad do the P90x a few times and that guy really got on my nerves!! Maybe you could just mute it though?

Here's the deal. If you want to obtain a quick muscle gain and tone look go for it, but its not healthy in my opinion. The people who should do P90x are those who have been working out for a few months. I suggest take the "muscle confusion" concept, the total body workouts, and the intensity at your own pace. Do you want a healthy body or a ugly tone, which it will give you lol, crooked abed MFers, and an unhealthy body? Its your life, but you wanted suggestions. Itll work if you stick to it i'm sure, but I just don't like what they are selling.

i gained 50lbs of muscle in about 8 months just taking suppliments wnent from 130 to around 182 now im just hovering around 174 trying to lose some of this access fat. im not big i have around 15% body fat want to get down to the 9-11% range

Lol, I've seen my dad do the P90x a few times and that guy really got on my nerves!! Maybe you could just mute it though?

Yep. But I hate working out in my house. I have a gym membership and that works better. I did recoup half my cost though, I sold it to a friend.

~String

i gained 50lbs of muscle in about 8 months just taking suppliments wnent from 130 to around 182 now im just hovering around 174 trying to lose some of this access fat. im not big i have around 15% body fat want to get down to the 9-11% range

Alot of core, and SPRINTS. But as for changing body fat that just dietary. Just cut back.

A lot of it goes back to that snide comment from Tobey Maguire, when asked by Letterman how he got in such great shape. Tobey said "By eating right and exercising (dur)." But it's true.

P90X (and yes I'm doing this too, week 3 currently), is pretty intense. You have to eat enough and often to make sure you don't crap out during the workout sessions. Each workout lasts between 1 and 1.5 hrs (depending on the day).

Here's the breakdown for the first 3 weeks (week 4 is a "recovery" week):
1. Chest & Back, Abs
2. Plyometrics
3. Arms & Shoulders, Abs
4. Yoga
5. Legs & Back, Abs
6. Kenpo
7. Rest

So, this adds to your muscle confusion throughout that given week. And it seriously works the hell out of you each time you do it. Yes, Tony is a bit over the top, but the guy's 45 at the time of the video and in fantastic shape--sometimes you need someone to yell at you (though he always encouraging, which is nice) to do that next rep.

The first week is terrible! Constant pausing of the DVDs, tongue-lolling as you're trying to catch your breath, etc. It gets better, of course. But the real challenge is the other 20-some odd hours of the day as you try and make sure to keep to their nutrition plan / diet (which changes month-to-month).

What else did you have planned for the next 90 days? It's going good so far, and it feels like the bad soreness is starting to become a good soreness. I have lost zero pounds so far (not a big guy anyway), though I have increased my muscle mass (I hope!).

Apologies for being self-indulgent but wanted to give my two cents.

But the real challenge is the other 20-some odd hours of the day as you try and make sure to keep to their nutrition plan / diet (which changes month-to-month).

Does P90x take into account different body types? Because how can they recommend the same diet to everyone?

Does P90x take into account different body types? Because how can they recommend the same diet to everyone?
It does take into account different body types: there are 3 of these as well. Based on my height/weight ratio, I'm in the 3rd tier (most calories) while my wife is in the lowest (1st) tier. I'm supposed to be eating around 3,000 cals/day, which is just not possible for me yet, especially since half of that is supposed to come from protein (for this first 30 days).

Each month / phase, the nutrition adjusts to fewer proteins and more carbs basically. The first month is intended to burn as much fat as possible. Since each subsequent month is the workouts at a greater intensity (I think), it adjusts to allow for more carb intake, which is what you'll need to perform the workouts everyday.

You're also eating about 5-6 times a day. Remember that Onion article Breakfast now ... (http://www.theonion.com/articles/experts-say-breakfast-now-sixth-most-important-mea,17646/), well it's not far from the truth!

Can someone tell me where to begin with this workout?

I want to get more in shape.

Don't. P90X is nothing but marketing gimmickry. They slapped together a bunch of ridiculously and unnecessarily intense calisthenics so that people get extremely sore, super sweaty, and nauseous. Those people then mistakenly conclude that the routine is "great" because they hurt so much.

Don't waste your money. Get a good book from the library and learn the principles of specificity, progressive intensity, periodization, proper technique, etc.

Don't. P90X is nothing but marketing gimmickry. They slapped together a bunch of ridiculously and unnecessarily intense calisthenics so that people get extremely sore, super sweaty, and nauseous. Those people then mistakenly conclude that the routine is "great" because they hurt so much.

Don't waste your money. Get a good book from the library and learn the principles of specificity, progressive intensity, periodization, proper technique, etc.

Or do check it out, if you're curious. Isn't everything marketing gimmickry nowadays? Last time I checked out principles of specificity, progressive intensity, periodization, proper technique, etc I have to admit I was fooled by all the pretty colors and smiling faces on the posters / books.

When in doubt, do some research about things you're interested in finding more information about. Changing bad habits frequently introduces pain of some sort.

Or do check it out, if you're curious. Isn't everything marketing gimmickry nowadays? Last time I checked out principles of specificity, progressive intensity, periodization, proper technique, etc I have to admit I was fooled by all the pretty colors and smiling faces on the posters / books.

When in doubt, do some research about things you're interested in finding more information about. Changing bad habits frequently introduces pain of some sort.

Hmmm...gotta say that's some odd advice. Here's one guy saying, "It's a ripoff. Save your money," and you say, "That's OK, spend your money anyway."

P90X costs $120...for glossily repackaged calisthenics. It's a marketing scam. Your advice is like telling someone, "Yeah, go check out pyramid schemes. Get involved in one if you want more information..."

Huh?

P90X costs $120...for glossily repackaged calisthenics. It's a marketing scam. Your advice is like telling someone, "Yeah, go check out pyramid schemes. Get involved in one if you want more information..."

Huh?

Your reading comprehension is failing. Maybe work on getting your mind in shape first? Is it possible to do research without actually buying or joining something? If you don't think so, hey I've got this great money-making ponzi scheme you should contribute to.

The whole "muscle confusion" thing that the program is supposed to be based around is a bunch of non-scientific marketing BS. Of course there's no shortage of ignorant/dishonest/duped people who will claim that it's based on the latest scientific research blahblahblah, but actual scientific studies supporting the concept are non-existent.

Will it work? Yeah, if you do pretty much any intense exercises 5+ hours/week for 12 weeks, you will end up in significantly better shape.

Will it work? Yeah, if you do pretty much any intense exercises 5+ hours/week for 12 weeks, you will end up in significantly better shape.

While there is no such thing as "muscle confusion" there is a need to rotate exercises. That, coupled with P90X's intense workout is all Tony Horton should have talked about. . . but that nonsense (and his annoying personality) just made the whole program stink.

~String

The best thing about programs like this is that they do keep the intensity up, and they give people a solid goal (as in, completion of the program).

I'll do my own thing, thanks.

It works very well and burns a hell lotta calories

Will it work? Yeah, if you do pretty much any intense exercises 5+ hours/week for 12 weeks, you will end up in significantly better shape.

Jesus, really, Nasor? Quite the vendetta against this specific program I guess? Does it just keep you awake at night, thinking of all the gullible sheep that are participating in this travesty?

I'm still doing this (week 1 of phase 2) and it's still kicking my ass all over my living room. Will it work? Who knows, but it's giving me a definite goal to work towards. It's a form of entertainment, who gives two craps how someone finds something enjoyable? Less than the price of a Wii.

Everything's a scam. Everything gives you cancer. Nothing's what it seems in life. We get it. You're a nihilist. It's what makes you happy. Awesome.

Jesus, really, Nasor? Quite the vendetta against this specific program I guess?Why do you assume that I have a vendetta? I was simply pointing out that the P90x program relies on pseudoscience marketing bullshit.

Does it just keep you awake at night, thinking of all the gullible sheep that are participating in this travesty?Nope


I'm still doing this (week 1 of phase 2) and it's still kicking my ass all over my living room. Will it work? Who knows, but it's giving me a definite goal to work towards. It's a form of entertainment, who gives two craps how someone finds something enjoyable? Less than the price of a Wii.If you're doing it because you enjoy it, great, I'm glad you found a new source of entertainment. I suspect, however, that most people do not find the P90x experience particularly pleasant. Most people probably look at it as an unpleasant means to a desired end.

Everything's a scam. Everything gives you cancer. Nothing's what it seems in life. We get it. You're a nihilist. It's what makes you happy. Awesome.
What the hell are you babbling about? You suppose that since I'm educated enough about exercise to know that "muscle confusion" is bullshit, it means I must be a nihilist?

Anyway, I hope you continue to enjoy your 7 hours of cardio.

What the hell are you babbling about? You suppose that since I'm educated enough about exercise to know that "muscle confusion" is bullshit, it means I must be a nihilist?

Anyway, I hope you continue to enjoy your 7 hours of cardio.

That last part of my rant was a bit off-base, I grant you that. I also just wanted to call you a nihilist because part of me was thinking of the Big Lebowski at the time.

On my way into work today, another driver became so angry with me that he turned in his seat and told me where to go. It was crazy, so perhaps I need to take it a bit easier in life.

With p90x, here's some full disclosure: I haven't purchased this dvd collection. My brother-in-law is living with us, he bought it and we're all using it. So, really there's been no out-of-pocket for me, aside from the 7 hours of cardio you mention. But it's a great regimen and I think I'm seeing some results, though it's very hard-fought.

To each his own. As Carlin once said, "May the forces of evil become lost on the way to your house."

The term "muscle confusion" just comes from the idea that, if you do the same thing over and over for a long period of time, your body will eventually adapt to it. By rotating through varying exercises, actuating differing muscles (or even the same muscles in differing ways), you will keep the body pushing itself a little harder without having to increase the duration/intensity of the workout.

This is good for when you are trying to meet a specific goal (read, target heartrate).

Another advantage is that it allows worn muscles to recover while you focus on other groups (after all, you build muscle by tearing it down and having the body rebuild it better - no chance to recover = no muscle building)