View Full Version : Pizza is now a Vegetable??


Trippy
11-18-11, 06:38 PM
US Congress rules that pizza is a vegetable (http://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/)


American lawmakers have ruled that the amount of tomato paste in pizza sauce means that pizzas can be counted as a vegetable


MSNBC reports that politicians had been lobbied heavily by the frozen food industry who didn’t want to see a major revenue stream cut off given how often pizza is found on the menus of school canteens in the US.

School meals subsidised by the government are mandated to include a certain amount of vegetables and the Department of Agriculture’s plan would have pushed pizza-makers at least partly out of the school lunch business.


The salt industry, potato growers, and some conservative politicians who said that the federal government shouldn’t be involved in telling children what to eat, also lobbied against the change.

Yes, because heaven forbid that adults should ever tell children what do. But it's not even that, when it boils down to it.

Pizza is a vegetable? Congress says yes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/#.Tsb5FvLxc0J)

And people are puzzled by the obesity epidemic?

Tiassa
11-18-11, 07:09 PM
We should not be surprised. In the 1980s, the Reagan administration, in order to reduce school lunch costs, deemed ketchup—you know, that stuff that is made from fruit and the fermenting of fermented fruit?—a vegetable.

I mean, sure, I get the bit about salsa (two fruits and a vegetable), which also came up in my youth, but ... yeah.

And I should note that the loud outcry at the stupidity of ketchup as a vegetable did actually cause the administration to rethink its policy proposal, which was in the end withdrawn.

Giambattista
11-21-11, 04:25 AM
Herman Cain = Pizza

and

Pizza = Vegetable

therefore

Herman Cain = Vegetable

Sorry.

A truly veggie pizza, especially if on whole grain crust and minimal cheese, with adequate fresh vegetables, would probably constitute a full serving or two of veggies, depending on how much you ate.

Of course, cooked vegetables aren't quite the same as fresh, but anyway.

scheherazade
11-21-11, 07:38 AM
US Congress rules that pizza is a vegetable (http://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/)


American lawmakers have ruled that the amount of tomato paste in pizza sauce means that pizzas can be counted as a vegetable


MSNBC reports that politicians had been lobbied heavily by the frozen food industry who didn’t want to see a major revenue stream cut off given how often pizza is found on the menus of school canteens in the US.

School meals subsidised by the government are mandated to include a certain amount of vegetables and the Department of Agriculture’s plan would have pushed pizza-makers at least partly out of the school lunch business.


The salt industry, potato growers, and some conservative politicians who said that the federal government shouldn’t be involved in telling children what to eat, also lobbied against the change.

Yes, because heaven forbid that adults should ever tell children what do. But it's not even that, when it boils down to it.

Pizza is a vegetable? Congress says yes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/#.Tsb5FvLxc0J)

And people are puzzled by the obesity epidemic?

The Food Guide has ever been determined by the food industry lobbies, in my opinion, but declaring pizza to be a vegetable is going beyond logic, even if it is a vegetable pizza.

Pizza has ever been about the cheese. People who buy those frozen pizzas have told me that they can be made 'acceptable' by the addition of extra cheese. Usually these folks also use bagged shredded cheese for it's convenience. Be aware that these cheeses contain anti-caking agents.


Several anticaking agents are commercially available, such as cellulose, microcrystalline cellulose, cellulose impregnated with glucose sugar and glucose oxidase enzyme, silicon dioxide, and sodium aluminum silicate.

http://fatnflab.blogspot.com/2011/03/cheese-cheese-my-favorite-food-but-not.html

Hmmmm.......let's see now. Cheese is made from milk, milk comes from cows, cows eat grass, (best not to mention what all else they are fed in the industry)......Therefore, by the extension of rational logic, cheese is a vegetable because it comes from grass. :D

birch
11-21-11, 07:59 AM
most cows are fed corn, so cheese is corn. well, corn comes from the ground so cheese is dirt. lol

scheherazade
11-21-11, 08:05 AM
most cows are fed corn, so cheese is corn. well, corn comes from the ground so cheese is dirt. lol

Is the sentence above a 'corny comment' or a 'dirty dig'?

We'll leave others to make that call, lol....;)

chimpkin
11-21-11, 09:04 AM
I think congressmembers should count as a serving of vegetables.

madanthonywayne
11-21-11, 09:04 AM
We should not be surprised. .
Here's the reason:


Congress wants to keep pizza and french fries on school lunch lines, fighting back against an Obama administration proposal to make school lunches healthier.

How dare that Nazi Commie bastard fuck with Pizza day!

Captain Kremmen
11-21-11, 09:30 AM
http://imway2fat.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/very-fat-cat.jpg?w=300&h=285

I can't explain it. All I eat is vegetables

Thought:
Is salt a vegetable?

scheherazade
11-21-11, 09:46 AM
Thought:
Is salt a vegetable?

Salt is a mineral, used as a condiment and in the processing and preserving of many foods.

We absolutely require a small amount of this mineral. Taken in excess, it is considered to be harmful for many people.

Salt is also widely used in solutions in medicine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saline_%28medicine%29


Normal saline is considered a descendant of the pre-Ringer solutions, as Ringer's findings were not adopted and widely used until decades later. The term "normal saline" itself appears to have little historical basis, except for Hartog Jakob Hamburger's 1882–83 in vitro studies of red cell lysis that incorrectly suggested that 0.9% was the concentration of salt in human blood (rather than 0.6%, the true concentration).

Salt is also used to season veggies, so perhaps we may extrapolate that the majority of our species are veggies, lol....:D

cosmictraveler
11-21-11, 09:57 AM
Three yards of black fabric enshroud my computer terminal. I am mourning the passing of an old friend by the name of Common Sense.

His obituary reads as follows:

Common Sense, aka C.S., lived a long life, but died from heart failure at the brink of the millennium. No one really knows how old he was, his birth records were long ago entangled in miles and miles of bureaucratic red tape.
Known affectionately to close friends as Horse Sense and Sound Thinking, he selflessly devoted himself to a life of service in homes, schools, hospitals and offices, helping folks get jobs done without a lot of fanfare, whooping and hollering. Rules and regulations and petty, frivolous lawsuits held no power over C.S.

A most reliable sage, he was credited with cultivating the ability to know when to come in out of the rain, the discovery that the early bird gets the worm and how to take the bitter with the sweet. C.S. also developed sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn), reliable parenting strategies (the adult is in charge, not the kid) and prudent dietary plans (offset eggs and bacon with a little fiber and orange juice).

A veteran of the Industrial Revolution, the Great Depression, the Technological Revolution and the Smoking Crusades, C.S. survived sundry cultural and educational trends including disco, the men's movement, body piercing, whole language and new math.

C.S.'s health began declining in the late 1960s when he became infected with the If-It-Feels-Good, Do-It virus. In the following decades his waning strength proved no match for the ravages of overbearing federal and state rules and regulations and an oppressive tax code. C.S. was sapped of strength and the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, criminals received better treatment than victims and judges stuck their noses in everything from Boy Scouts to professional baseball and golf. His deterioration accelerated as schools implemented zero-tolerance policies. Reports of 6-year-old boys charged with sexual harassment for kissing classmates, a teen suspended for taking a swig of Scope mouthwash after lunch, girls suspended for possessing Midol and an honor student expelled for having a table knife in her school lunch were more than his heart could endure.

As the end neared, doctors say C.S. drifted in and out of logic but was kept informed of developments regarding regulations on low-flow toilets and mandatory air bags. Finally, upon hearing about a government plan to ban inhalers from 14 million asthmatics due to a trace of a pollutant that may be harmful to the environment, C.S. breathed his last. Services will be at Whispering Pines Cemetery. C.S. was preceded in death by his wife, Discretion; one daughter, Responsibility; and one son, Reason. He is survived by two step-brothers, Half-Wit and Dim-Wit.

Memorial Contributions may be sent to the Institute for Rational Thought.

Farewell, Common Sense. May you rest in peace.

Captain Kremmen
11-21-11, 10:02 AM
Salt is also used to season veggies, so perhaps we may extrapolate that the majority of our species are veggies, lol....:D

Well, there you go.
Pizza is very healthy, but if you want to be extra sure of good health, use your salt-shaker liberally.

Bells
11-22-11, 12:31 AM
Here's the reason:



How dare that Nazi Commie bastard fuck with Pizza day!

Wonderful.

I shall now go forth and tell my children that Pizza is a vegetable, ensuring it will never pass their lips again, since they seem to have this inherent aversion to anything deemed "a vegetable".:)

Tiassa
11-22-11, 01:22 AM
It's not a vegetable if you make it with a garlic cream sauce.

The key to making pizza a vegetable is to put fruit paste on it.

Or use vegetables as toppings, but that's not going to fly with the manly men (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57324204-503544/herman-cain-manly-men-like-more-pizza-toppings/).

Bells
11-22-11, 01:30 AM
It's not a vegetable if you make it with a garlic cream sauce.

The key to making pizza a vegetable is to put fruit paste on it.

Or use vegetables as toppings, but that's not going to fly with the manly men (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57324204-503544/herman-cain-manly-men-like-more-pizza-toppings/).

That is just hilarious.

Captain Kremmen
11-22-11, 09:30 AM
Farewell, Common Sense. May you rest in peace.


He's not dead.
He just posted in that stupid ESP and Magnetism thread of his.

CptBork
11-28-11, 07:58 AM
This is pretty sweet, they should declare beer to be a vegetable too while they're at it.

Cifo
11-28-11, 08:46 AM
Like Tiassa, I thought of the Reagan Admin's labeling of ketchup as a vegetable. Technically, ketchup is a fruit paste, which is still a vegetable ... but anyway.

Pizza contains many vegetables. A vegetable is any edible part of a plant (roots, stems, leaves, buds, flowers, fruits, nuts, oils, grains, etc). I would say that pizza is mostly vegetable. So, for example, the vegetables from the ingredients list on a frozen pizza box:

CRUST (mostly grains according to the 2005 USDA food pyramid)
wheat flour
malted barley flour
soybean oil
yeast
corn starch
soy flour
cornmeal


SAUCE

tomato paste
dehydrated garlic and onion
soybean oil
modified corn starch
guar gum
xanthan gum
paprika
citric acid
beet powder
soy flour


CHEESY BLEND

palm oil
modified food starch ?
citric acid


MEAT TOPPINGS

spices
corn syrup solids
dry garlic
chili pepper
textured vegetable protein
soy protein concentrate
oleoresin of paprika
garlic powder