I would like to direct your attention to the results of this poll

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29777

Would you consider taking action based on what the majority of sciforums users want?

na ja...what the majority of people that voted want.

democracy is a funny thing.

8000+ sciforumers, and you say 30+ is enough to represent them? Advertise the pol first. If we can get 10% of the population to vote, the result will be enough for an action to be taken.
(IMO)

Maybe there should be a poll in the philosophy forum, since that seems to be the forum in question.

. . . or maybe we should methodically molest maddeningly malarial monkeys.

It's a sound plan. I promise.

Would you consider taking action based on what the majority of sciforums users want?

The majority!? At present, the margin is 4 people.

One of whom is me. :)

Perhaps there is some way for Clarentavious to put me on his ignore list, since he seems unable to muster the maturity needed to simply not look at my posts? This was amusing for a while, but now it becomes tiresome.

The poll result's getting vague....

I'd vote but....


Yeah.

Clarentavious should study what is democracy and what is majority

but on the other hand sciforums embraced the democratic system. Hence the people have spoken.

No majority has ever ruled a modern democracy I would think. Why should we change things.

No majority has ever ruled a modern democracy

hey man ... you live in europe , you should know better :D

Porfiry, your response is the only one I've read.

Have you looked up in the dictionary what the word "majority" means? 51 to 49 would be the majority. I did not say nearly everyone, an overwhelming amount, or a margin in the poll that is slim to none. I refer to most sciforums users.

Are you going to consider taking action, or let your personal bias affect your position as boss of these forums?

Originally posted by Clarentavious
...I refer to most sciforums users. I think the issue is that you only have a response from 42 out of 8780 people. Even you if leave out members with less than five posts each, 42 out of 3000 or so members is hardly representative of most, is it?

:m: Peace.

Originally posted by sweet Pentax
No majority has ever ruled a modern democracy

hey man ... you live in europe , you should know better :D

So in europe 30 to 50% of the adult population go voting (that would exclude already a large part of the population) Those 30 to 50% chose between different parties. The biggest party can make the government. They probably only need about 30% of the votes.
In a very good scenario and without taking in the considerations of our precious young people, 15% of the population will have chosen for a certain party. That is a huge majority. Now those people that are chosen (less than 100) will make the policy disregarding the 15%. Next election 5% switches their vote because they are unhappy and another party becomes the majority. The cycle is repeated.

I thought that this was the situation in my precious europe.

ps. the 50% that does not vote never wins the election for some reason, although they are clearly the majority from a logical perspective. Somehow this might all be connected to this thread, but maybe I lost the point somewhere.

just to fuck with claren
lets have 5 more no votes and shut the poll down

step up folks!

VOTE NO!!!

The members who have not voted obviously don't care about the issue enough to read the site feedback forum and give their opinion. We can only go by what we know. Most of those who voted think xev should be removed.

Or are you just making up an excuse for your own personal feelings, goofyfish?

Oh geezs Goofy, Are you letting your own personal feelings get in the way of this MAJOR isshue!?!?


Spare the drama Clarentavious, does it really matter to you so much to have Xev removed???

Sounds like a personal problem........


-Guyute

Not at all. It makes no difference what the reason is for lack of participation in
your poll. The fact is that is not representative of the majority of members, as
you stated originally. Those that are satisfied with the status quo often feel
unmotivated to participate - it is the dissatisfied, such as yourself, that attempt
to initiate change. So far, there has been underwhelming support for your cause.

To attempt to cast any other meaning to my statements is feeble, at best.

:m: Peace.

Many of the over 8,000 users sign up with an account, make a few posts, then leave sciforums. Perhaps others don't check the site feedback board and only browse free thoughts for example, where xev has no authority.

If this is a concern for you, why not make a sticky under the philosophy forum that xev moderates, informing everyone of the poll? That is where his behavior is likely felt the most, and if more people are aware a poll is going on, then perhaps they will vote.

Perhaps a better solution to this problem would be to have Porfiry temporarily remove xev from mod position, so I can add him to my ignore list, then Porfiry can reinstate his position, and I'll no longer have to deal with his posts.

He has not responded to my PMs concerning if vBulletin will allow users to add mods or admins to their ignore list, as under normal circumstances this does not seem possible.

...why not make a sticky under the philosophy forum that xev moderates, informing everyone of the poll?Why not just post a thread there yourself? I would think that would do. As far as not being able to ingnore a mod, that is a standard vBulletin feature. For valid reasons or not, you have been after Xev for a year now. It strikes me as personal, but that is merely my opinion. Just skip the posts.

:m: Peace.

Originally posted by Clarentavious
Are you going to consider taking action, or let your personal bias affect your position as boss of these forums?

Of course Dave will let his personal bias affect his position, afterall, it was his PERSONAL bias, hard work, and decisions that have made these forums possible. It's his private business and he runs it as he pleases, that's freedom and democracy at it's best. He never took a public vote on whether to start a sciforums, and you can count on it that he won't take one when he decides to trash the whole idea. Consider this, you can wake up tomorrow morning and not find sciforums.....How democratic is that?

Please tell me where do people get the nerves to come on somebodies privately owned FREE site and sign a list of rules and then start bitching about changing the universe and installing their agendas. Half of the threads started here lately crosses the line that separates productive feedback and hostile occupation. You are terribly mistaken your membership my dear. It's not a golf club, a spa, or an all inclusive resort. Your membership doesn't come with rights. Your membership is a number that Porifry uses to allocate space and program...That's it.

Why is it that the every idiot on the planet knows how to use all these fancy words, democray, terrorism, ect, but very few understand the meanings and the proper applications.

I and my ~5403 posts support Xev as a moderator

For valid reasons or not, you have been after Xev for a year now. It strikes me as personal, but that is merely my opinion

Sure it is personal, I have a problem with him because of who he is. Other sciforums members who don't curse people out or behave like idiots don't bother me.... so the issue does lead back to xev, only because simply how he chooses to act of these forums.

There seems to be some confusion here regarding Xevs gender....

So Porfiry, are you going to respond?

suggest you calm down

Clar, a question. Why are you singling out Xev? Other members emulate her. Hell, I cuss all the fucking time. What makes Xev so different from the rest of us? What makes Xev different from Wesmorris?

Wesmorris cusses, flames on occasion, and is a member of this board. So why not go after Wesmorris, or even me? Oh wait, that's right, you don't have anything against us.

And listen to Flores, she speaks the truth. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Yes
There seems to be some confusion here regarding Xevs gender....

Yeah, clar thinks Xev is a guy, and everyone else thinks xev is a chick... whose right?

Xev is a chick.

Originally posted by Guyute
Xev is a chick.

What is your proof?

She say's (hmmm, not good enough)


Well, um, only a woman cycling everyday can explain her attiude.


There!

Not satisfactory

Dont know what to tell you then. Ask the real Xev herself.

Coffee if you get to become a problem for me I'll protest about you too. Anyone who is not a modertaor I can add to my ignore list, that settles the problem. So if I find wesmorris' posts offensive, I can add him easily. This is where xev becomes an exception because he is a moderator

Why can't you just ignore Xev's posts? As soon as you see Xev's name, just skip over the post. It's that easy. Why have her removed as moderator if only one person is having a problem with her?

I don't even like seeing xev's avatar sig pic, and I don't want stumble across the word "fuck" before I see xev's name in order to ignore the post - tt is a bit hard for my eyes to ignore the text if there are posts directly above and below his, especially if he makes a short response. I want to feel as though he doesn't exist on these forums - that is no problem as it is only my own desire and opinion, and there is no one else sitting behind my computer monitor - he is welcome to remain here on sciforums as a member..... at least as far as Porfiry is concerned as he is the one in charge. I just want to be able to add xev to my ignore list.

aaw, don't cry Clar
you sound like a baby
put me on your ignore list, then all the pirates, then all the indians, then all of the world and then the sun will shine again

Looking at the poll, Clarentavious is not alone, he has at least 27 people with him. Maybe not all want to ignore Xev, but at least see him/her removed from the moderator position.

So what is it going to be Porfiry, you going to respond?