How can they still think God has anything to do with this glacier??? They need to go to the Pope about this? Why? :confused:

Swiss want to reverse prayers, ask God to stop glacier's shrinking (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/environment/2009-08-06-swiss-glacier-prayer_N.htm)

GENEVA (AP) — Villagers from deeply Roman Catholic south Switzerland have for centuries offered a sacred vow to God to protect them from the advancing ice mass of the Great Aletsch glacier.

Global warming is making them want to reverse their prayers, and the Alpine faithful are seeking the permission of the pope.

Since the vow was established in 1678, the deal was simple: the citizens of the isolated mountain hamlets of Fiesch and Fieschertal would pledge to lead virtuous lives. In exchange, God would spare their homes and livelihoods from being swallowed by Europe's largest glacier as it expanded toward the valley with heavy winter snows.

Times have changed, and the once-fearsome Aletsch is melting amid temperatures that are 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.3 Fahrenheit) warmer than in the 19th century. The pastor at the Ernerwald Chapel has warned his flock that a new danger threatens.

"We all know — and the Holy Father reminded us in his Easter message — that an unprecedented change in the climate is taking place," Rev. Pascal Venetz said in his sermon to 100 people at the chapel, where until modern times pious women were prohibited from wearing colored underwear for fear of provoking the glacier.....

Idiots. They think they caused it..
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Idiots. They think they caused it..
:facepalm:

Nice one!:roflmao:

I think the Pope would have no choice but to agree with that analysis.

How can they still think God has anything to do with this glacier??? They need to go to the Pope about this? Why? :confused:

Swiss want to reverse prayers, ask God to stop glacier's shrinking (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/environment/2009-08-06-swiss-glacier-prayer_N.htm)

GENEVA (AP) — Villagers from deeply Roman Catholic south Switzerland have for centuries offered a sacred vow to God to protect them from the advancing ice mass of the Great Aletsch glacier.

Global warming is making them want to reverse their prayers, and the Alpine faithful are seeking the permission of the pope.

Since the vow was established in 1678, the deal was simple: the citizens of the isolated mountain hamlets of Fiesch and Fieschertal would pledge to lead virtuous lives. In exchange, God would spare their homes and livelihoods from being swallowed by Europe's largest glacier as it expanded toward the valley with heavy winter snows.

Times have changed, and the once-fearsome Aletsch is melting amid temperatures that are 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.3 Fahrenheit) warmer than in the 19th century. The pastor at the Ernerwald Chapel has warned his flock that a new danger threatens.

"We all know — and the Holy Father reminded us in his Easter message — that an unprecedented change in the climate is taking place," Rev. Pascal Venetz said in his sermon to 100 people at the chapel, where until modern times pious women were prohibited from wearing colored underwear for fear of provoking the glacier.....

Yah, yah. But one things humans often do is make rules out of their reactions.

Perhaps most people can recognize the pattern where something terrible happens or might happen and we start to feel bad about what we have done. This does not even have to involve a deity. Our parents catch us at something and we promise to be good to avoid punishment or to assuage our own shame. I think most people will find that they act morally as a preventative measure, perhaps unconsciously. So here these Swiss people have formalized it. They now realize that the contract runs against their own interests and want to change it.

Yah, yah. So what.

The superstitious who are out in the open with their superstition are often looked down on by those unconscious of their own superstitions.

Think about the supersitions, rituals, ceremonies, prayers - often subvocal - most men exhibit when trying to get (close to, to have sex with, romantic interest from) women.

And vice versa.

Magical thinking abounds.

...where until modern times pious women were prohibited from wearing colored underwear for fear of provoking the glacier.....hahaha.... fear of provoking the glacier.... hahahahaa.... I wonder why God was always such a ninny when it came to sex?

I'm waiting for them to start throwing virgins at the glacier.

I guess they did something to really piss off their God! :D

But shouldn't they be happy its going away? They don't have to worry about it crushing their town now at an amazingly slow rate.

But shouldn't they be happy its going away? The answer is in the article you posted. And they never tried to eliminate the glacier. They wanted it to not destroy where they lived.

and now its not going to, so why are they upset about it?

No one has mentioned Satan's part in this. Don't tell me he is laying another beating on God, this happens every time. What a prick!!!

GENEVA (AP) — Villagers from deeply Roman Catholic south Switzerland have for centuries offered a sacred vow to God to protect them from the advancing ice mass of the Great Aletsch glacier.

Global warming is making them want to reverse their prayers, and the Alpine faithful are seeking the permission of the pope.

Looks like they are just getting greedy with the omnipotent one.

Would they just make up their minds. Do they want them or not.


I'm waiting for them to start throwing virgins at the glacier.

LOL. Yes, but it doesn't have the same sense of value as a sacrifice. Nothing lost.

They would get some nice ice burns though.

Would they be naked virgins ?

Looks like they are just getting greedy with the omnipotent one.

Would they just make up their minds. Do they want them or not.


If people read the article they would see the ideas was (see the bold)



Villagers from deeply Roman Catholic south Switzerland have for centuries offered a sacred vow to God to protect them from the advancing ice mass of the Great Aletsch glacier.

Now that the glacier is shrinking as part of something - global warming - that they see as harmful, they wish to change their request.

...Now that the glacier is shrinking as part of something - global warming - that they see as harmful, they wish to change their request.

so they think global warming is God's doing?

...LOL. Yes, but it doesn't have the same sense of value as a sacrifice. Nothing lost...

Nothing lost??!!! Permanent nipple hardness. That would traumatize me

so they think global warming is God's doing?

LOL.

If it is then we should blame those damn Swiss catholics.

They started all this with their stupid "stop the glacier" prayers.

Nothing lost??!!! Permanent nipple hardness. That would traumatize me

too much of a good thing can be a bad thing

LOL.

If it is then we should blame those damn Swiss catholics.

They started all this with their stupid "stop the glacier" prayers.

<gasp!> the bastards!

Global warming is making them want to reverse their prayers, and the Alpine faithful are seeking the permission of the pope.

Our lives are in the hands of the Pope? Amen to that.

Are the religious to blame for the entire greenhouse effect, or just for the glacier ?

Their praying created the greenhouse effect. I plan to go there and stark burning them at the stake. They can pray that I won't make it.

Their praying created the greenhouse effect. I plan to go there and stark burning them at the stake. They can pray that I won't make it.

Let me grab my pitchfork.

But lets make sure we're not on the same plane. Look how long it took them to make the glacier go away. It would probably take them that long to make 2 planes crash.

But lets make sure we're not on the same plane. Look how long it took them to make the glacier go away. It would probably take them that long to make 2 planes crash.

Sounds good.

I don't want to be on the same plane as you. With your imagination you would probably see some guy that hasn't shaved for awhile and cause a mass panic thinking he is a terrorist. LOL.

We all get crushed to death over nothing but a broken shaver.

Their praying created the greenhouse effect. I plan to go there and stark burning them at the stake. They can pray that I won't make it.

Wtf!? So it was them all along!! :mad:

Wtf!? So it was them all along!! :mad:

yep, global warming is God's doing but only because a bunch of villagers prayed for it.

The Pope is gonna fix it though. He is going to give them permission to alter their prayer.

yep, global warming is God's doing but only because a bunch of villagers prayed for it.

The Pope is gonna fix it though. He is going to give them permission to alter their prayer.

lol They can't stop praying for it without the pope's consent ? :D

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lol They can't stop praying for it without the pope's consent ? :D

:facepalm:

Nope. They hope to hear back from him sometime in September.

Nope. They hope to hear back from him sometime in September.

The insanity...

It must be nice feeling so rational. You are all not like them.

I am sure you live your lives quite rationally and logically.

Like spending time feeling superior to people you think are irrational.

This is a good use of time. You are just having fun.

It doesn't really reveal anything about you and your self-images.

It must be nice feeling so rational. You are all not like them.

I am sure you live your lives quite rationally and logically.

Like spending time feeling superior to people you think are irrational.

This is a good use of time. You are just having fun.

It doesn't really reveal anything about you and your self-images.

lol So you believe that they caused the greenhouse effect by prayer ? :D

lol So you believe that they caused the greenhouse effect by prayer ? :D

No. I think she's saying that many here seem to think themselves wholly insusceptible to irrationality--you know, the sort of creatures who are wholly incapable of producing art, music, literature, philosophy (unless, you count, uh, analytic philosophy) that's worth a pile of shit.

I think she's saying ... a pile of shit.

So, they think praying and not rising world temp over the last couple hundred years is causing their glacier to retreat.

Ignorance, but a fairly common one for humans.

And they've decided that these prayers are wrong and harming the world.

Again fairly common human hubris and conceit.

But to then continue in what they feel is harming the world while the wait on the Pope to render a decision, that is for me the crazy part.