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Oniw17
01-29-07, 10:10 PM
Who are the potential presidential candidates at teh moment?

Genji
01-29-07, 10:19 PM
Who are the potential presidential candidates at teh moment?
Democratic Side:
Hillary Clinton
Barak Obama
John Edwards
Joseph Lieberman

Republic Side:
Sam Brownback
Newt Gingrich
Bill Frist
Rudolf Giuliani

Not all have formally announced but this is where all the money is.

(Lieberman poses as a Dem but is really a neocon. He's an independent.)

madanthonywayne
01-29-07, 10:34 PM
You forgot Mitt Romney on the Republican side.

Oniw17
01-29-07, 10:36 PM
No independents are running?

Genji
01-29-07, 10:43 PM
No independents are running?Lieberman for the far Right and probably Nader for the centrists.

madanthonywayne
01-29-07, 10:54 PM
Nader is a centrist. LOL. His partie's website calls for the nationalization of the fortune five hundred!

And Lieberman is also a leftist, except on foriegn policy.

Oniw17
01-29-07, 10:56 PM
And Lieberman is also a leftist, except on foriegn policy.
I thought left and right just had to do with the free market?

madanthonywayne
01-29-07, 11:08 PM
I thought left and right just had to do with the free market?
Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action.

Genji
01-30-07, 12:33 AM
Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action.BS. Vietnam was ordered by JFK and intensified by LBJ. WW2 was entered under Roosevelt. Korea: Truman. Wrong again madant. That's what you get for listening to am radio

phoenix2634
01-30-07, 04:20 AM
Democrats:
Official--Christopher Dodd
John Edwards
Mike Gravel
Dennis Kucinich
Tom Vilsack

Announced(haven't filed paper with FEC)
--Joe Biden
Hillary Rodham Clinton

Exploratory Committees
--Barack Obama
Bill Richardson

Republicans:
Official -- Sam Brownback
John Cox
Duncan Hunter

Exploratory--Jim Gilmore
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
John McCain
Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
Tom Tancredo
Tommy Thompson

As for third parties, according to Third Party Watch, Joesph Lieberman will eventually announce who he will endorse. He has no plans to run.

Ralph Nader's name doesn't surface for the Green Party or any other party at this time.

There are various other potential candidates. For more information go to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008

Hope this helps. :D

Roman
01-30-07, 08:30 AM
Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action.

The Clinton administration did more for free trade than anything Junior's done, ever.

Neocons aren't pro-free market, they're pro-business, and big business at that.

Genji
01-30-07, 05:46 PM
Nope. While it's true that the left is against the free market, they also oppose any US military action.Conservatives and libertarians are also opposed to US military adventurism overseas.
How will we pay for our first losing wars? Shall we clean up our deficit before building a new trillion dollar one?
Reason for reluctance in endorsing war on countries Israel fears? We don't win!
The US should require that before we invade any one else we first win the first 2 wars. Then PAY for them. Then raise taxes to pay for their 3rd war. THAT would greatly slow the armchair hawks from bankrupting our country and creating a far more unstable world.

Genji
01-30-07, 05:49 PM
The Clinton administration did more for free trade than anything Junior's done, ever.

Neocons aren't pro-free market, they're pro-business, and big business at that.Clinton isn't "Left." He's a conservative centrist. Pro death penalty, against legalization of :m: supports restrictions on abortion, supports anti union legislation (Right to Work) he's a baptist and opposes gay marriage. Hardly a Leftist.

Oniw17
01-30-07, 05:55 PM
So what does left and right mean?

Genji
01-30-07, 06:00 PM
So what does left and right mean?Like a political ruler: The far left side is communism. The left of center is liberal and progressives. Center are the spineless moderates that have no convictions, right of center are conservatives, further right are neocons and then liberatrians. The far right of the ruler is fascism.

madanthonywayne
01-30-07, 09:34 PM
BS. Vietnam was ordered by JFK and intensified by LBJ. WW2 was entered under Roosevelt. Korea: Truman. Wrong again madant. That's what you get for listening to am radio
Obviously, my statement only applies to Democrats since Vietnam. Prior to that, politics stopped at the water's edge. Since then, the Left has consistently opposed US military action, military spending, and anything related to the military.

madanthonywayne
01-30-07, 09:40 PM
Like a political ruler: The far left side is communism. The left of center is liberal and progressives. Center are the spineless moderates that have no convictions, right of center are conservatives, further right are neocons and then liberatrians. The far right of the ruler is fascism.
Well put. You might also throw in the origin of the terms.

In the national assembly prior to the French revolution thost in favor of the monarchy (conservatives) sat on the right side of the aisle while the radicals who wanted to overthrow the monochary sat on the left. Ever since then, conservatives have been described as "The Right" and liberals have been described as "The Left".

Genji
01-30-07, 09:49 PM
Obviously, my statement only applies to Democrats since Vietnam. Prior to that, politics stopped at the water's edge. Since then, the Left has consistently opposed US military action, military spending, and anything related to the military.See my Pat Buchanan article in the politics fora.
Maybe Vietnam taught us imperial warmongering doesn't pay off? Just costs billions and takes lives and you still lose?
Conservatives, Libertarians. liberals and Leftists are opposed to the Bush wars. There is no benefit to the US by destabilizing entire regions of the world for nothing. For little Saddam's head? After Rummy shook his hand and aided him in using chemical weapons on Iranian troops and civilians? Oh THAT'S the kind of WMDS we like. This was 2 years after the Kurds tasted Iraqi chemical weapons, made by Dow.
Yes. Oppose foreign adventurism and foreign quagmires and use the military to defend the USA.
You want more war? How will we pay for the first two losing wars? Tax hike is obvious.
Now we know you aren't a conservative OR libertarian, but a neocon hawk willing to bankrupt the nation and build an axis from our ever increasing enemies by behaving as Rome did in her final decades.
The epitome of unwashed arrogance.

Genji
01-30-07, 09:50 PM
Well put. You might also throw in the origin of the terms.

In the national assembly prior to the French revolution thost in favor of the monarchy (conservatives) sat on the right side of the aisle while the radicals who wanted to overthrow the monochary sat on the left. Ever since then, conservatives have been described as "The Right" and liberals have been described as "The Left".I wasn't aware of that.