Well, of course this 'cartoon jihad' was one more tool in their plan to CONVERT to -- Radical-Islam or KILL -- the ENTIRE infidel world.

Quiz.
Was the Euro intifadah or Aussie intifadah before or after the 'cartoon jihad'?

Was the Arab Muslim massacre on native Jews in the holyland in 1929 before or after the SO CALLED "occupation" of 1967?

Was Bin Laden's massacre of 3,000 on 9/11, before or after 2003-Iraqi invasion?

Was Al Qaeda's plan on 9/11/2001 to bomb London, before or after 2003-Iraqi invasion?

Were the RECENTLY captured Islamic Jihad terrorists in Spain "before" Spanish withdrawl from Iraq?

Was the Iranian militant Islamic torturing and kidnapping of Americans in 1979 before or after 'war on terror'?

Was Scandinavian chief intelligence warning of Muslim extremists attacks on Scandinavia, before or after the 'cartoon jihad'? (before!!!)

Armenian genocide http://armenian-genocide.org was also before the "middle east conflict"...

On of their real detailed plans on the GLOBE WORLDWIDE, regardless of any foreign policies by any one, inbcluding on moderate Muslim countries:
http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counterterrorism_blog/2005/08/radical_indoctr.html

"We're going to comquer America" http://www.danielpipes.org/article/83

More:
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/466

It always seems like a good idea to countercharge. Israel's favorite tactic. Accuse someone else of the things you do.

The problem is, the facts do not support this claim in the slightest.

Is the government of the USA controlled by a group of Arabs? Absolutely not. It is Neo Cons, pro Israeli Neo Cons, who have the vice presidents office and the office of the department of defense. And the USA seat on the world bank. And the USA ambassador to the UN.

Does the UN consistently rule in favor of Israel, or any other Arab country? The UN consistently votes in favor of Israel.

Who in middle east has nuclear weapons? Israel does. Does anyone say or do anything about it? Absolutely not.

Your comparison is like children trying to dress up as mommy. You look cute, but it doesn't really work.

Bin Laden's attack was AFTER the gulf war, in which the United States tricked Saudi Arabia into thinking Saddam was massing troops on their border, thereby justifying the building of a US military base on what many muslims consider holy land.

Was Bin Laden's massacre of 3,000 on 9/11, before or after 2003-Iraqi invasion?

Was Al Qaeda's plan on 9/11/2001 to bomb London, before or after 2003-Iraqi invasion?

my friend ur living in a fantasy world!
ur owen american & jews did 9/11 and every one knows that! (and still ppl of america is doing noting about it) wat a shame. americans r dieing and have no clu wat so ever why or for wat couse!!

“Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse? “
By Steven E. Jones
Department of Physics and Astronomy
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84604
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html


The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True
by David Ray Griffin, Ph.D.
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html


Explosive Testimony: Revelations about the Twin Towers in the 9/11 Oral Histories
by David Ray Griffin, Ph.D.
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192

my friend ur living in a fantasy world!
ur owen american & jews did 9/11 and every one knows that!
If 'everyone knows that' why is there such a long thread debating the whole issue? :confused:

Dil, meet do.

Geoff

Oh, good. Another insane shitbag. Just what this forum needs. :rolleyes:

Dil, meet do.

Did someone call?

Oh wait, you said "Dil".

:p

- N

It always seems like a good idea to countercharge. Israel's ...
Why of course radical Islam's favorite victim & 24/7 silly bashing.
Whatelse do you guys do all day long?
Stick to the real issue of radical Islam VS world, for God sake!

my friend ur living in a fantasy world!
ur owen american & jews did 9/11 and every one knows that! (and still ppl of america is doing noting about it) wat a shame. americans r dieing and have no clu wat so ever why or for wat couse!!


The massacre was crime part I, the "denial" is crime part II, your ugly blaming others, is crime part III.

FantAsia, Ritri5432, Kiwi - are you 3 the same person? You all seem to read the same books. I know you at least all know each other if not the same people...

dkb!
You tried that stunt once, didn't you?
Agreeing does not make one in the same.

my friend
Dil_420/happeh
Why do you post things that you know are false, Are you trying to convince us that you believe in your "theories"?
Well, you are not!
Is your Islam-image getting any improvement when you do that?
No way, only the opposite.

Dil, meet do.

Geoff
Dil & Disaster ARE happeh (radical racist Jihadist), all recently "created".

dkb!
You tried that stunt once, didn't you?
Agreeing does not make one in the same.


What "Stunt"? I only asked a question. Why are "you people" so damn sensitive?

Your "agreeing" seems to come from the same mind. Like the Borg. A collective of Fox5JDL types. Just an observation. So your all different people. [Even Cybil thought the other 200 or so "people" in her were different people.]

Dil_420/happeh
Why do you post things that you know are false, Are you trying to convince us that you believe in your "theories"?
Well, you are not!
Is your Islam-image getting any improvement when you do that?
No way, only the opposite.

So if Dil_420 believes something different from what you JDL'ers think, he's lying? Is that it? I too think 9/11 was planned and carried out by Mosad and the NeoCons. And ya know what, a lot of people think that muslims had nothing to do with it. No proof was ever shown who hijacked those planes. NO PROOF!!! Show PROOF that muslims were the hijackers and I'd gladly change my mind [I don't consider proof any news source or because the President said so. Both sources have proven they are liars.]. Until then, it was the Mosad and the Neocons. :D I have just as much proof linking the NeoCons and Mosad to this than anyone has of linking muslims or gerbels or flying purple people eaters to this.

So if Dil_420 believes something different from what you JDL'ers think, he's lying? Is that it? I too think 9/11 was planned and carried out by Mosad and the NeoCons. And ya know what, a lot of people think that muslims had nothing to do with it. No proof was ever shown who hijacked those planes. NO PROOF!!! Show PROOF that muslims were the hijackers and I'd gladly change my mind [I don't consider proof any news source or because the President said so. Both sources have proven they are liars.]. Until then, it was the Mosad and the Neocons. :D I have just as much proof linking the NeoCons and Mosad to this than anyone has of linking muslims or gerbels or flying purple people eaters to this.


This is amazing...so you assume that the proof is a lie, because you assume the sources are lying. And you don't accept any news sources. Because they could be lying. Or the Holocaust, because you weren't there. But I think you've claimed earlier that the Quran is ultimate truth (or somesuch nonsense), which is another incredible claim, because you have no idea whether it's lying or not. This is fascinating.

So...if the US were to say, nuke Mecca in response, I assume you wouldn't believe in that either. After all, news sources might report it. The President might say that it was done. And, of course, you've never actually even seen Mecca, so how do you know that it exists?

Your acceptance of reality is reminiscent of two of the three monkeys in the old Buddist mantra "Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil", except that you apparently are capable of accepting that OTHERS might well do evil; but never islam.

Your belief system seems to extend as far as you want it to - to the limit of your preconceptions, and no further.

DKB, is it necessary to your damaged psyche that all others wallow in the same misery of spirituality as you? - that, having found the bars of your own cage, that you need put everyone else behind them as well?

Geoff

Pfffff....I would never start a sentence with a conjunction.

And why not?

This is amazing...so you assume that the proof is a lie, because you assume the sources are lying. And you don't accept any news sources. Because they could be lying. Or the Holocaust, because you weren't there. But I think you've claimed earlier that the Quran is ultimate truth (or somesuch nonsense), which is another incredible claim, because you have no idea whether it's lying or not. This is fascinating.

So...if the US were to say, nuke Mecca in response, I assume you wouldn't believe in that either. After all, news sources might report it. The President might say that it was done. And, of course, you've never actually even seen Mecca, so how do you know that it exists?

Your acceptance of reality is reminiscent of two of the three monkeys in the old Buddist mantra "Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil", except that you apparently are capable of accepting that OTHERS might well do evil; but never islam.

Your belief system seems to extend as far as you want it to - to the limit of your preconceptions, and no further.

DKB, is it necessary to your damaged psyche that all others wallow in the same misery of spirituality as you? - that, having found the bars of your own cage, that you need put everyone else behind them as well?

Geoff

it´s fascinating how ignorant u people choose to be!
Saddam did´t have a thing to do whit 9/11 soo tell why did US go to war??
http://reopen911.org/
Professor Steven E. Jones and sixty out of sixty academics think bombs, not the planes and fires caused the collapses of the WTC! (http://reopen911.org/BYU-Physics.htm)

Presidential Pretender George Bush's Inaugural Speech is Straight From The Bible, Revelations ! Bush invokes "God" 4 times and has 13 biblical references. (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/index.php?Version=31&search=Revelation)

Former editor of the Wall Street Journal and Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury: The US government has fallen into the hands of psychopaths...may be set to stage another terror attack in the US. (http://reopen911.org/Psychopaths.htm)

Bush claimed God told him to invade Iraq, Afghanistan: BBC (http://reopen911.org/Bushclaimstohearvoices.htm)

Confronting the Evidence: GET AN FREE DVD (https://secure.reopen911.org/freedvd.php)

it´s fascinating how ignorant u people choose to be!
Saddam did´t have a thing to do whit 9/11 soo tell why did US go to war??
http://reopen911.org/
Professor Steven E. Jones and sixty out of sixty academics think bombs, not the planes and fires caused the collapses of the WTC! (http://reopen911.org/BYU-Physics.htm)

This is a lie. The site (which, as it gives neither the names of the attendees, may well be beyond redemption), merely states that those people thought that "further investigation was called for". Not that bombs did it. They might have been demanding to know more about the nature of the structural collapse for all we know. NOR does that site indicate how many of the attendees were in fact faculty of anything. At a maximum all were, at a minimum...six. If any. And to reiterate: this is a claim only: from Brigham Young University. Need I say more?

You, sir, are guilty of aggrandizement.

This endeth the lesson.

Geoff

it´s a lie if the site from US don´t provide any names!
but it´s fear if people from muslims contries don´t provide a name!

ppl have been arrested for investigating 9/11.
do some research!

and is this a lie? and what bush have provide is not an lie?
bush haven´t providsed AN single proof of that it was done by Al Qaida (never heard of this name before 9/11) or any other muslim groups! not an single proof...and yet people of US believe BUSH & goverment of USA & media!

Paleasssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Islamophobia is offensive. Why so many threads singling out a religion or ethnic group for bashing? There has been no such idealogy as global domination anyways except for liberal democracy and global capitalism. Everyone agrees these are good things anyways so global domination is not in itself bad. Apparently some people think its just Islam that is bad and this is offensive. This is a terrible view like saying people are bad just because the news shows a couple murders happen each day. Clearly only 2 murders happen each day so how can all people be bad as a result?

This is amazing...so you assume that the proof is a lie, because you assume the sources are lying. And you don't accept any news sources. Because they could be lying. Or the Holocaust, because you weren't there. But I think you've claimed earlier that the Quran is ultimate truth (or somesuch nonsense), which is another incredible claim, because you have no idea whether it's lying or not. This is fascinating.

Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.


So...if the US were to say, nuke Mecca in response, I assume you wouldn't believe in that either. After all, news sources might report it. The President might say that it was done. And, of course, you've never actually even seen Mecca, so how do you know that it exists?
Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.


Your acceptance of reality is reminiscent of two of the three monkeys in the old Buddist mantra "Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil", except that you apparently are capable of accepting that OTHERS might well do evil; but never islam.
Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.


Your belief system seems to extend as far as you want it to - to the limit of your preconceptions, and no further.
Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.


DKB, is it necessary to your damaged psyche that all others wallow in the same misery of spirituality as you? - that, having found the bars of your own cage, that you need put everyone else behind them as well?
Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.


Geoff
Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.

You know, you're starting to sound alot like the wife i divorced...

BTW Who's "PUT" Arab settlers to IMMIGRATE to the holyland at their height of immigration early 1900?
(Yes, most so called "palestinians", their ancesotry does NOT originate from Israel! not only because of most classic "palestinian" ever: Yasser Arafat being an Egyptian...).

Do you have any idea what your talking about? Aren't all the "Jews" in Israel from Europe or New York?

Yes. No. Maybe. Could be.

You know, you're starting to sound alot like the wife i divorced...

I knew there was something about you I liked. Did you tell her "I divorce you" three times?

But seriously - you believe completely in the Quran, which you really have no proof for, but you waver about the Holocaust, which has extensive proof?

Really?

Geoff

Do you have any idea what your talking about? Aren't all the "Jews" in Israel from Europe or New York?

So Jewish people in the US only live in New York?

Man. You ever read what you write?

Geoff

I knew there was something about you I liked. Did you tell her "I divorce you" three times?

But seriously - you believe completely in the Quran, which you really have no proof for, but you waver about the Holocaust, which has extensive proof?

Really?

Geoff

I believe the message of the Qu'ran, yes.

I never said I didn't believe the Holocaust happened. I questioned how the number 6 million was come about. That's not saying I question it happened Geoff. Can you please stop saying I denied the event. It's not fair nor is it the truth.

So Jewish people in the US only live in New York?

Man. You ever read what you write?

Geoff

Saying New York was simply stating the United States. Since I live in NYC I know the it has a large population of Jewish people. Of course I realize Geoff that Jewish folk live all over the US. I have read a comic book or two in my life Geoff!!

But let me take this a little further...

I don't dislike any group of people. I dislike what certain people do. Live and let live. I will always side with the underdog as long as I believe what they are doing is right and just. I will always side with the oppressed simply because they are oppressed. [WWJD?] And please don't imply the child molestors are oppressed - you know what I mean!

That being said, there are something's that my brothers in faith are doing that I am totally against. Things I find reprehensible. I will not go into those actions and deeds here. Could be that I don't live in the conditions they do so my mind will not allow me to understand the motives and reasons for some of these actions.

Looks like Australia only wants to celebrate diversity if they can get something useful out of it like cheap labor or a shifting tide of votes.


MARTIN:

It seems clear, from what you said in today’s press, you’re angry with people who promote Sharia, Islamic law?

TREASURER:

Well the point I would make is this, Australians are free to express themselves about political views, let’s make that clear. But there are some things Australia stands for, has always stood for, always will stand for which will never change. We will never be an Islamic State. We will never observe Sharia Law. We have a Constitution. The Constitution means that Australia has a civil state, that the laws are made by elected representatives. We will always be a democracy and to people who say, well we have come to this country and we would like to turn it into something that it isn’t, I say, you must understand, that will never occur. There are certain core Constitutional things that Australia stands for, always will and expects all of its citizens to accept. And that is a civil government with parliamentary democracy, with democratic law making, with equality between men and women and if you’re someone that doesn’t like those principles then Australia may not be the best place for you.

http://www.treasurer.gov.au/tsr/content/transcripts/2005/151.asp

So when new elected representatives wish to implement Sharia Law in the near future, will the law be broken to stop such a legal transition? Liberty is an illusion. Maybe liberty shrinks when multiculturalism inflates. The two cannot occupy the same space in society. Down with liberty!

Do you have any idea what your talking about? Aren't all the "Jews" in Israel from Europe or New York?
No, many are natives, like the ones that were murdered by Arabs in 1929?
Like the Moroccan, Yemenite, Syrian, Iraqi Jews...
Just like most "palestinians" are by origin from Syria etc.

New Yorkers are probably less than 3% there, no wonder dkb218 is ignorant on the middle east.

No, many are natives, like the ones that were murdered by Arabs in 1929?
Like the Moroccan, Yemenite, Syrian, Iraqi Jews...
Just like most "palestinians" are by origin from Syria etc.

Do you mean those killed in Israel, when the Israelis declared their own state and bombed the Palestinian villages and cities? Do you mean the war that started the entire creation of Israel from terror?

If you want to say Jews were killed in the Middle East elsewhere, give proof.

What about Canaanites who are refered to in Biblical texts? What of the people before the arrival of Abraham. Who were they? By saying that Palestinians aren't native to the land, that justifies killing them?

Do you mean those killed in Israel, when the Israelis declared their own state ?
Gee, What do you know about arabs' initiated massacres by the Mufti?

If you want to say Jews were killed in the Middle East elsewhere, give proof.


Madina, by Muhammad!