Lets put it plain and simple. I'd like to learn how to move things with my mind, see other peoples thoughts, have OBE's and even travel back and forth through time. Banshee, Bebelina, MuliBoy(I believe) and anyone else, tell me, a newbie, how I can do these things in simple and easy-to-follow terms. Thanks a lot.

The only thing, exept OBEīs, I can in your wishlist is explain things in easy to follow terms :)
Oh, I also can move things with my mind, imaginary things that is. Oh, yes, I can also use the force :)

Having out of body experiences is easy. That is real newbie stuff.
Just lie down. Relax and breathe rythmically. Let your thoughts drift away without making any effort to be involved in them or trying to push them away.
Make it a normal part of your everyday life doing this at least 30mins/day.
It is called meditation.
When you have done this many, many times, or once if youīre very lucky or very gifted you will be sucked out of your body and experience stuff.
Good luck :bugeye:

Start now...someday, you will get there....

Join a monastery...it is quicker....no worry about food and shelter, you know....

:)

ok then... ill ask the question!

to what ends and motivation do you seek to have power over those around you?

to be one
or
to be the one

"The problem of leadership is inevitable: who will play god?"
Leto II
^^^^ are you aware that this is a self defeatist statement of intended direction??? !!!cyclic!!!

or am i the one missing the big sale sign?

groove on dude! and good luck to ya if you are keen to be what most are not!
my greatist advice for you is that which i have been told is a quote from Eistien
"once you label a fact, you stop thinking of all the possibilities of what it could be"
too scarry for most people to be able to manipulate in fluid cognition!!!
:)

Pollux,

Perhaps you should work out whether Banshee, Bebelina, or MuliBoy can actually <i>do</i> the things you want to learn before asking their advice. Otherwise, you might be wasting your time.

I know I should but there's really no solid reason for them to say that they have psychic powers over the internet. They don't profit from it.

Thanx for the tip, muliboy.

Rip, are you asking why I'd want this? Well there are a flurry of reasons-knowing if someone is lying or not (I assume), traveling the world (maybe), not having to get up and grab the remote. Rest assured I wouldn't use it to hurl people around or anything.

Does this answer your question?

A monestary has never sounded like too much fun for me. Sure you don't have to worry about food or shelter but the food and shelter you get isn't exactly top notch.

<i>there's really no solid reason for them to say that they have psychic powers over the internet. They don't profit from it.</i>

Don't they? They seem to be gathering a bunch of adoring followers...

I have zero adoring followers :(
I know Bebelina has a whole bunch of them but so far isnīt profiting from it...
unless freaky stalkers is currency in some alternative universe.
Trying to make others understand the wide range of possible realities is not a self serving task. As far as one doesnīt propagate the one universe where one is the head honcho of course :D

I too fail to see what anyone might gain from being a deceptive person online. I prefer to be trusting until proven wrong.
No danger in that :)

hey all :)

Pollux v
to assume the good nature in others is to be labeled as a fool in
this life time.

to treat all as an enemy is considered "experienced" in some countrys!

and yet if i was standing infront of you with a loaded gun you might feel 'in danger'.... ?
if such weird powers were true do you think if someone looked into your private memories and thoughts you might seem like
an un-judgemental, pro active empathic, sociataly focused
UN-FAULTERING (once would be too much) credit worthy citerzen???

most people thow good at heart may not mesure up to such perspective perception.!!!
if ya no wat i mean? :D
yet may lead an exemplified life style.

its all very complicated!
in the assumption that its 'all very real'... :)

good luck :)

Instead of focusing on proving others to be liars, focus on what you want with your life. :)

Meditation is the best method that Iīm aware of that gives you a larger perspective on reality and how to find alternative ways of interacting within the physical reality, and get access to other dimensions.

But the point is that you already know all this, what meditation can do is to help you remember. :)

And yoga is also recommended.....as always. :)

Trust life to be good, because you get what you give.

If you call somebody a fool, then the same disrespect will be given to you.
If you want to have power over others, you will experience losing power.
Karma.

Shrike,

Start with a clock.watch it ticking...go on and on...for a quite a time...about 15 minutes...dont close your eyes for god sake,try not even or blink eyes with less frequency...

hope that helps.anyways remember one thing,when you do this dont do it with intention that"ll you"ll become Neo in one day.;)
do it for yourself.utilise the whole thing in your proffession,it"ll will increase your concentration power towards your goals...

bye!

Bebelina,

I assume your post was aimed at me.

<i>Instead of focusing on proving others to be liars, focus on what you want with your life.</i>

Can't I spend a bit of time on each? ;)

<i>Meditation is the best method that Iīm aware of that gives you a larger perspective on reality and how to find alternative ways of interacting within the physical reality, and get access to other dimensions.</i>

Yeah - meditation can be good. I don't know about the other dimensions stuff, but it's good for self-awareness and relaxation.

<i>If you call somebody a fool, then the same disrespect will be given to you.</i>

I rarely do that, unless the person repeatedly reveals themself to be a fool.

<i>If you want to have power over others, you will experience losing power. Karma.</i>

Doesn't seem to apply to a lot of world leaders I know. Perhaps in the next life...

Try a little self gratification...........:D

I feel an "out of body experience" every single time.........

Ill follow Muli, Where ya wanna go?????:bugeye:

Remember-There is no spoon...............

Nooo!
You canīt follow me. You already pray at the altar of the false prophet, Neo! :D

The karma of hierarchy is being big one life and small the next. The scope of karma expands several lifetimes. Oh, I hear you, youīll worry about that later then. Prefer to be big now since you donīt care ībout incarnation anyways....
And thatīs how concsiousness stays status quo...
(although i see karma as being where you are, you live in what you put out)

Be careful if you follow MuliBoy, he is known to get smurfs stuck in uncanny places. :D

Maybe it should be said "unusual places".

:bugeye:

Lol!

I just call it the usual place :D

The way you look and feel toward other humans and their feelings, is a reflection of your own 'intentions'. So can I conclude by this that you are an evidential liar?

We can walk the road together, if our goals are all the same
we can run around and gain, if we persue a different aim
Let the truth of love be lighted, let the love of truth shine clear
Sensebility, lit by heart and liberty
With the heart and mind united in a single, perfect Sphere

Wherever that Spere may be...:)

I can levitate myself, and do so regularly as part of my meditation regime.

Does that count as anything useful?

Cris

Beautiful poem Banshee, did you just make it up ?

Cris, that is pretty extraordinary. Do you levitate with your physical body???

That counts, oh yes!

Bebelina, the poem is part of 'The Sphere' made by the Canadian Rock Band Rush. I guess I've mixed up one or two words in it though. It's been a long time since I heard it.:)

The song is to be found at 'Hemispheres' - an old album made by Rush, way back in the '80's...

(this for the record, on behalf of James R's evidence);)

I usually never seem to find time to meditate but this morning I woke up at around 4 AM, 2 hours earlier than when my alarm goes off, and just kind of slipped in and out of consciousness. I probably had five or six dreams in that time. It was wild! But if I just laid in my bed half an hour before I had to get up would it 'count' as meditation?

I tried the watch thing. I have one gorgeous watch. It's going to be my family heirloom. But that's besides the point. I stared at it for 10-15 mins and felt pretty relaxed but not really ready to start bending spoons. Plus I did it at the end of study hall.

Oh and get this: I played one Beetle's cd so much that I melted it! I can hardly hear their voices anymore!!

As i told you it takes time,and dont expect to become Neo in small duration,keep on trying.but remember the most difficult part is keeping a void mind. the mind should be cleared or just concentrate on one thought, then only you"ll be successful...

bye!

But what should I be striving to accomplish? What is the point of staring at a ticking watch for fifteen minutes?

Concentration...

bye!

Consentration is a hard one for me.

For some reason my concentration easely breaks.
I can focus on something, but after half a minute I always seem to get distracted.
By sound or movement, even if I sence movement in an other room :bugeye:

I did read that the goal must be *pure hearted*.
Not for a cheap victory or show-off, or some profit.
I had something like it in the beginning.
I held on sice the beginning, and my goal has faded.

I want to learn it, and use it, but the reason is unknown.
Not for a victory or abusement, nor for good.
I know that I can't give up, because I don't feel even to be able to give up.
It's just a feeling of *I'll get there some day, any day...*.
As if I don't have anything to gain or loze.
It's more a life disire whitout any haste for it.

Maybe I'll start this week spending all the time on it.
I won't say I can't find the time, a lame excuse for most people.
I say, I never bother to make time for it *as I told Banshee once*.

I'll send some more messages this week for sure, I've cept myself to long from this site.

Greetz.

But does it help me work towards something? Whaaaat?
I can concentrate if I know I'm doing it for a reason, I just imagine I'm in a bright white room and I keep repeating a single word to keep from thinking about anything else.

Concentration?... Meditation does not require concentration, just dedication.
Doing it with effort and straining to focus is taking a aggressive stance and will not be worthwhile.
The only thing you need to do mentally while meditating is to not partake in the drifting thoughts that have a tendency to make you stray off target :)

The idea is to become removed from the ego and relinquish hold on the material and thereby become aware of higher levels of cognition.

Itīs not supposed to be hard :)

Originally posted by MuliBoy
on the material and thereby become aware of higher levels of cognition.


Could you elaborate on higher levels of cognition please Mul.

bye!

Originally posted by Pollux V
But does it help me work towards something? Whaaaat?

concentrating towards clock with Complete Voidity,is not so simple,no thoughts at all,and if some thoughts come in between you must stop.

the purpose of above thing as i said earlier is multiple.but it depends.however after doing the stuff as i mentioned(Exactly as i told)you"ll find a greater control over your emotions,you"ll learn to manipulate your brain to project yourself as something else.
you"ll be able to tackle horrifying situations without getting slightest concerns,believe me effects are numerous.

when i started learning Katas,in my Karate classes in summer camps,i was told the same exercise by my Karate teacher for incresed concentration and alertedness.

bye!

Broadening your field of perception. Sharpening the tuning. Grab hold of the texture screens that shield the information space behind. See all in one. Hold existance in your mental hands and see all options undreamed of in the "real" world.

Material existance is slow. The etheral mind acts and the material take years to follow. Inertia.
What the material try to accomplish, the etheral have already achieved.

You excist in the wake of your soul.

*The only thing you need to do mentally while meditating is to not partake in the drifting thoughts that have a tendency to make you stray off target*
Uhhh....any advice for those of us incapible of restraining our mind??
~Aphrodite~

One thing you can do is to visualize the thought you want to let go of as in a framed picture, and then make the picture smaller and smaller in your mind, until it disappears. And if it turns up again, most likely will, then repeat the procedure.
Or make up your own routine. I have made a habit out of visualizing thoughts burning up in a fire for example, that works too. :)

It would be nice to be able to read someone's mind. Man the fun you could have! I wish I was the one that could answer your questions, but if I could read minds I'm not sure I would share the information with you or anyone else. I did have an experience when I was in high school, well I should say a series of interesting experiments. My friends and I lived in a small town, I.E. not very much to do, we were bored. We started to use the standard ESP flash cards square wavy lines etc. at first we got the occasional correct answer as one would expect, but as we kept doing it the amount of correct answers went up. It got to the point that we didn't get any wrong. I'm not saying this to impress anyone, I mean it got scary. Its when we started to just draw random pictures of anything we could think of, and got those right that we really started to freak out. I'm not sure if I could still do that I don't practice It anymore, but I found it a little weird. here is one for you, go out side on a cloudy day and fine a low hanging cloud pick a point on the cloud and concentrate on putting a hole in it. It might take a while but it can be done. you'll know its not normal evaporation because its the spot your staring at. My first post forgive any spelling errors.

With Mind Uploading the Mind reading has become a great scientific possibilty.



bye!

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-Aphrodite