My strategy: Nuke the entire USA using their own missiles. Does someone a better idea?

How many fatal acts of war have been completed by USA since 1919 ?

Yup, you guessed it: A MILLION.

Now if GREEN PARTY was in Power, that might be a different story.

The point is, there are millions of blood-thirsty Americans who want to plunder our world to the core and want to kill all of us and take over the world. How do we stop them?

This thread has been inspired by the thread http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1322987&postcount=1
to do justice to the world in SciForums

Economic blockade.

Regime change.

Replace all oil with LSD.

Shower them with love and rose petals.

Give the rest of the world Gummi berry juice.

Reason with them. :shrug:

Reason with them. :shrug:

Reason with Bush? The gummi berry juice idea is more plausible :/

Impose sharia law.

Im still edging towards gummi berry juice... though there is one avenue we have not gone down... sharks with fricking lazer beams on their heads!

The United States is a Constitutional Republic under a Representational Democracy system.

It is not a Dictatorship.

Ergo, one cannot stop American Dictatorship.

It's rather like asking whether or not the president of New York city is black.

The United States is a Constitutional Republic under a Representational Democracy system.

It is not a Dictatorship.

Ergo, one cannot stop American Dictatorship.

It's rather like asking whether or not the president of New York city is black.

Hitler also came to power in democratic republic.

Is there a leader that has assumed power to Hitler's degree currently in office?

I hardly imagine we can give George Bush that credit.

That wasn't the point. The point was that you said the US was a democractic republic like it means something.

The DDR (east Germany for Yankees) was a democratic republic in name.

You forget that we are a Constitutional Republic. The constitutional provides means whereby dictatorship is in general protected against.

Constitutions can be amended. See your amendments. Constitutions can be overridden in name of fighting terrorism.

Revolution works. They are so hard to get started, particularly in good economic times. Just prepare and wiat for a good time to launch it.

Spuriousmonkey:

It requires a 2/3rd majority in the congress to amend the constitution. To make a new amendment, 2/3rds majority in the congress + 3/4ths of the state legislatures.

Constitutional suspension can be overturn by the Supreme Court. The only time some rights were suspended actually was in The Civil War, when Habeas Corpus and Emminent Domain were suspended from their normal legal workings.

My strategy: Nuke the entire USA using their own missiles. Does someone a better idea?

How many fatal acts of war have been completed by USA since 1919 ?

Yup, you guessed it: A MILLION.

Now if GREEN PARTY was in Power, that might be a different story.

The point is, there are millions of blood-thirsty Americans who want to plunder our world to the core and want to kill all of us and take over the world. How do we stop them?

This thread has been inspired by the thread http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=64048&page=8
to do justice to the world in SciForums


Nice. Reeeeaaaalllllllll nice.

Spuriousmonkey:

It requires a 2/3rd majority in the congress to amend the constitution. To make a new amendment, 2/3rds majority in the congress + 3/4ths of the state legislatures.

Constitutional suspension can be overturn by the Supreme Court. The only time some rights were suspended actually was in The Civil War, when Habeas Corpus and Emminent Domain were suspended from their normal legal workings.

so what. The patriot act got through.

so what. The patriot act got through.

The 'chief architect' of the Patriot Act, Viet D. Dinh:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Viet-Dinh.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_D._Dinh


Does not seem part of the evil white man cabal, eh?

so what. The patriot act got through.
You people are so full of shit. The patriot act gave the government less power than most European governments have to fight terrorism. Consider France:

Warrantless wiretaps? Not a problem under French law, as long as the Interior Ministry approves. Court-issued search warrants based on probable cause? Not needed to conduct a search. Hearsay evidence? Admissible in court. Habeas corpus? Suspects can be held and questioned by authorities for up to 96 hours without judicial supervision or the notification of third parties. Profiling? French officials commonly boast of having a "spy in every mosque." A wall of separation between intelligence and law enforcement agencies? France's domestic and foreign intelligence bureaus work hand-in-glove. Bail? Authorities can detain suspects in "investigative" detentions for up to a year. Mr. Bruguiere once held 138 suspects on terrorism-related charges. The courts eventually cleared 51 of the suspects--some of whom had spent four years in preventive detention--at their 1998 trial.

In the U.S., Mr. Bruguiere's activities would amount to one long and tangled violation of the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution. And that's not counting the immense legal superstructures that successive Supreme Courts have built over and around the Bill of Rights.
The French government has much greater powers to fight terror domestically than the US. Yet no one calls them Nazis.

The 'chief architect' of the Patriot Act, Viet D. Dinh:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Viet-Dinh.JPG

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_D._Dinh


Does not seem part of the evil white man cabal, eh?

It seems you are caught up in your own racial hatred circle of thinking. One can only pity you.

And avoid.

You people are so full of shit. The patriot act gave the government less power than most European governments have to fight terrorism. Consider France:

The French government has much greater powers to fight terror domestically than the US. Yet no one calls them Nazis.

Sure they do. Did you never see the reaction they got after bombing the greenpeace shit?

I hope someone Hacks NASA command control computers and use their secret weapons to target US Nuke bases and with its help blow entire USA SKY HIGH.

This is a good thread. To begin we might consider developing a new technology which the US does not possess. One such theory I have is that because all nuclear weapons are at their essence "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" we might use this as a way to manipulate third-world countries even further into acting against them.

Now seriously a method might be researched that would activate and detonate all nuclear devices in the US. In theory because the nuclear state of the materials is always present you might be able to trigger a reaction remotely using either radio, or unknown transmission. Not really focusing on activating the device but on disturbing the surrounding safe guards so that the US would find it's weapons detonating for no real reason. Sympathetic vibrations can cause things to react, if a massive soundwave were thrown onto the US from space it might be enough to react with minerals in their technology.

If this method proves impossible you could consider following the best way to irradicate the US scum, an EM burst sent at a strong enough level might have the ability to completely distrupt and destroy not only nuclear weapons but all technologies present on the land. If this were feasible we could laugh at the Americans as we invaded their country and destroyed what little they still had functioning (technology).

There are a few things to consider, perhaps the best idea is to simply cause a solar flare to come towards the US, then it would knock out all equipment and possibly fry some of them too. This would certainly be an advantage to rid us of their seafaring vessels like the famous tanker thingies.

In my wildest imagination, well, I'd develop a plan, oops wait, a fine female walks this way with a good bum :> Wow... she had on these long black boots, and her smile was exotic, god help me :( Anyway so yeah we could use ummm

That's it! Infect their water supplies with a substance that would make their females unable to breed, then as time passed they might notice or might not, and we'd have the advantage of their numbers dropping. You see how easily they can be attacked, all we need is like 50 years, place people in strategic spots of the US to pollute their water, then boom... they'd be so f'd. Fighting over water!

Anyways.... attack them biologically or technologically, perhaps socially...

Social engineering is a good method, attack them by making their Christians outlawed, or mad religious zealots. With their faith breaking down the nation will collapse, just look at how they join religion with government :p

I can continue, speak your thoughts!

It seems you are caught up in your own racial hatred circle of thinking. One can only pity you.

And avoid.

Racial? Hatred?

You're projecting, mon ami.

Is Mr Dihn a different race than Mr Bush? I could not tell, since races do not exist.

Racists do.

My god you 'mericans really ARE hung up on "races" huh?

My strategy: Nuke the entire USA using their own missiles. Does someone a better idea? ... Now if GREEN PARTY was in Power, ...
I'm not convinced by your Green-leaning logic that nuking the entire USA is a particularly environment-friendly thing to do.

But then, Green doesn't really mean "environment-friendly", does it? Green really means "shaping the environment" -- in a political way -- in particular Green Party-friendly ways.

Thus the sanctioning of mass murder, as long as it gets you what you want.

The signature Green Party slogan: "Soylent Green is People!"

I'm not convinced by your Green-leaning logic that nuking the entire USA is a particularly environment-friendly thing to do.

But then, Green doesn't really mean "environment-friendly", does it? Green really means "shaping the environment" -- in a political way -- in particular Green Party-friendly ways.

Thus the sanctioning of mass murder, as long as it gets you what you want.

The signature Green Party slogan: "Soylent Green is People!"

Yaa yaa, alright i just copied all that text from that thread and modified it to look like the original but anti american.

My aim was to create this thread, i got what i wanted.

Yaa yaa, alright i just copied all that text from that thread and modified it to look like the original but anti american.

My aim was to create this thread, i got what i wanted.
Ah. The Fertilizer Defense.

Apt.

I wonder what would happen if San Fransico got hit with that gay bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb)

There would be no difference from normal activity.

it is always amusing to pass by Sci once in a while (when i'm really bored at work and have browsed all other entertainment sites 3 times) and see the swamp that it has become... at least in the political topics

so many trolls... wow

it is always amusing to pass by Sci once in a while (when i'm really bored at work and have browsed all other entertainment sites 3 times) and see the swamp that it has become... at least in the political topics

so many trolls... wow

Its natural for u to feel so since u have nothing to say here, for us u r the troll.

You forget that we are a Constitutional Republic. The constitutional provides means whereby dictatorship is in general protected against.

The Constitution also says only the Congress can print money and not the Federal reserve. Oupps, my bad, wrong example... :)

(If you have a dollar, it says: Federal Reserve note)

The Constitution also says only the Congress can declare war, oups, my bad again...

The US is a Representative Democracy, it represents corporations very well. I should know, I am the one pulling the strings....

Every empire eventually failed, the US's zenith was at the height of the stockmarket bubble. Since then it is downhill...

Syzygys,

U have hit where it hurts the most.

another one....

The USA is just the most efficient at plundering our world - but make no mistake all people in all countries, by their very nature, plunder our world. The very act of survival required it.

MII

The US is a Representative Democracy,...
The U.S. is a Federated Republic, with a "Representative Democracy" system of governance. ;)

My strategy: Nuke the entire USA using their own missiles. Does someone a better idea?

Actually, to go back to the question at hand., I have told many people this. If you want to change the way America acts in regards to the World. Then stop buying American products.

But, the fact is, when it comes to saving a buck or having a trendy new outfit, people simply revert to the monkeys we are and follow the Alpha male.



Anyway, THAT is the only real way to modify American behavior - via the pocket book

Michael

Anyway, ... the only real way to modify American behavior - via the pocket book

Michael
Hmm.

Global warming ... America Chillin'.

I think you've just revealed the secret not-so-secret formula for solving all the world's problems in one stroke.

Boy, are your knee caps now in danger from your used-to-be friends. :D

Consider that when the US economy tanks the global economy tanks,too.

Bring it on. :D

Consider that when the US economy tanks the global economy tanks,too.I'm not talking about tariffs. I'm referring to people making individual decisions to buy their products from other sources. Like Aussies could make an effort to buy "made in AU" stuff.
It's not like people will stop buying shoes. They'll continue to buy them - just not from the label called "Nike". As such the factories in China that make Nike will simply make a different brand. Maybe an Au label?

What's wrong with that?

Not that it would gain momentum anyway, ultimately people care more about their pocketbook and trend than what ever the USA is doing in the World.

My strategy: Nuke the entire USA using their own missiles. Does someone a better idea?

Sweet !!!

We die quick.

Bone seekers get the rest of you sumbitches...
:cool:

I'm not talking about tariffs.
As well you shouldn't. No one else here is talking about them.

The US economy isn't the largest ever visited on the planet because it offers no tangible/intangible value to the rest of the world's opportunistic investors.

Nor is any economy invested in the US's -- because they all need to be -- going to be better off by minimizing the value of their investment in it.

As well you shouldn't. No one else here is talking about them.

The US economy isn't the largest ever visited on the planet because it offers no tangible/intangible value to the rest of the world's opportunistic investors.

Nor is any economy invested in the US's -- because they all need to be -- going to be better off by minimizing the value of their investment in it.

afaik the us has only one hold on the world and that the greenback
even now thats slipping

i cant see ONE tangible thing here (in my house/shed) here in australia
that actually came FROM america (or the U.S.A. or the local backpackers like to remind us)

tv- nope, phone- nope, light bulbs,computer, desk,bricks, carpet, cars , fan, tools, petrol, speakers, dvd player, cd player, mp3 player, stereo, even my baccy isnt

not ONE thing here has MADE IN USA stamped on it

so imho so what would change here if the usa disappeared entirely???

well

not a hell of a lot

we'd have a few more troops in australia instead of some other country on trumped up info

id be getting a lot less spam

and thats about it

i really cant see how the usa brags about its importance to the global economy when it apparently doesnt MAKE anything that the average person uses

fair enough we are considering buying some yankee fighter planes(we being the australian govn) but even that is now uncertain as the europeans make a far better one for much less bucks...

but even in the make things go boom for many $ stakes even there they are losing ground steadily

sheese we use centurian tanks(british for the main part) armourlites(local rifles) maybe soon european planes( instead of our aging f1-11's)- even our `humbees' are a locally designed and built vehicle

even our ammo is european based

seems to me locally that the yanks are basiacally a very big neon in a fish bowl

rather than their own perception of being a killer whale in the ocean

maybe else where thats different( cant say as i havent any experience of what other peoples perception of them is apart from visiting o/s people)

but locally the yanks have a habit of pretending to be canadian (apparently that was issued as a guide by the us foreign office??) as saying you are from the usa is little better than saying you are bin ladens brother

actually you are probably better off saying you are related to o.b

more likely to get a hearing rather than a hanging here

american cars are practically non existant here

2 jeep cherokees (sp?) and a late 50's caddy(restored) in a town of about 10 thousand

i give you as an indicator or the great american rollin iron in australia

http://picsorban.com/upload/april_2006_top_10.png


not in top 10

and less than 2.4 % of cars sold in australia

are american.....

so much for detroit...

for dogs sake even kia are a better seller than ANY american car

( btw for the americans trhat go but look at FORD!!)

ford FALCONS are locally designed, built
as are gmh(GMC for the yanks)
General Motors Holden- its called a commodore and is based on a west german opal!!!!

( and yes the monaro 2 door coupe we actually sell to youse guys lol!!!!!!



dunno what the usa calls it but its a G.M.H. monaro- a 2 door modification we aussies did of the 4 door opal from west germany!!!!)so when you see ford (mazda!!!) and gmh dont get all excited

cause they arent yankee rolling iron!!!

(edit to add link to graph)

just to add to the general anguish ill put this little titbit forward...

ford locally are mostly rebadged MAZDA'S!!!

so the ford laser is actually a mazda 131
the ford ecovan is a mazda e1300(i think model number could be wrong)
etc etc

EDIT TO ADD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_B-Series_(International)
note the following!!
`However, it should be borne in mind that the Mazda B-Series and Ford Ranger twins found inside North America are unrelated to the ones sold elsewhere. These are engineered by Mazda, whereas the North American models are developed by Ford.'
so basically ford build cars in the usa, mazda builds fords for them everywhere else!!
:-O

END EDIT


so apart from the few local models ie ford falcon- which has no american input whatsoever apart from the ford name- ie german efi, australian diff and gearbox(built locally but liscensed to west germany), australian body, german instruments and chinese bulbs and lenses!!
all the rest of the fords are actually mazdas( made locally mind you by ford ands with ford badging)
until only a few years ago we didnt even have yankee v8's in fords and havent had yankee v8's in holden for a couple of decades

we had 302/351 clevelands in fords( stopped production in mid 60's?? in usa)
and the well respected 253,308 local v8 in holdens

Hitler also came to power in democratic republic.Yes but the democracy quickly dissipated. Within six years the election process was just a formality and he was a dictator for life. Don't forget that the leader of the Third Reich was not elected directly by the citizens but by government ministers. The democratic process was very weak. It makes our Electoral College look like a model of representative government.

Bush has served his two constitutionally limited terms and the pendejo will simply be outta there in 2009. End of story.
That wasn't the point. The point was that you said the US was a democractic republic like it means something. The DDR (east Germany for [Yankees) was a democratic republic in name.Yes dude, I can spell and pronounce Deutsche Demokratische Republik too and I also know just exactly how demokratische it was since I have several Esperanto correspondents on that side of the old barbed wire. The U.S. is generally referred to as a "federal republic" since the individual states have quite a bit of autonomy and they are free to leave if they don't like it. Although may-he-rot-in-hell Abe Lincoln violated the Constitution and revoked that right the last time anybody tried it.
Constitutions can be amended. See your amendments. Constitutions can be overridden in name of fighting terrorism.It takes a long time to amend the Constitution. The mechanism would be of no practical use in dealing with an immediate threat. The whole point is that the majority of the country had better be really sure that they want to do it and have a chance to get over the fear or anger that sparked the movement.
The only time some rights were suspended actually was in The Civil War, when Habeas Corpus and Emminent Domain were suspended from their normal legal workings.Duh? Since FDR started using the Constitution for toilet paper, our constitutional rights have been steadily suspended. All it takes is for all three "independent" branches of the government to decide that if they work together they can all have more power. Congress passes unconstitutional laws, the President signs them, and the Supreme Court enforces them: Income tax, the War on Drugs, the Patriot Act, and the effective nationalization of entire sectors of the economy including education, charity, health care, energy and transportation.
Sure they do [refer to countries besides the USA as "nazis."] Did you never see the reaction [France] got after bombing the greenpeace shit?Yes. That was one. Can anyone increase that count to two? We get called "fascists" and "nazis" and "racists" every day.
it is always amusing to pass by Sci once in a while (when i'm really bored at work and have browsed all other entertainment sites 3 times) and see the swamp that it has become... at least in the political topics. So many trolls... wowYes it is sad. And it's a death spiral. People who wander in here from a Google hit (which is how I discovered the place) are just as likely to find a flame war or a troll festival as a serious discussion. So they're not likely to come back. The demographics of the membership are changing for the worse.

Come to my forum, Linguistics. I don't tolerate this drenn.

Bye, I have to go clean up my forum. ;)

Come to my forum, Linguistics. I don't tolerate this drenn.

Ahh.. how I miss Farscape! I shall pay a visit to your forum... mostly because you said "drenn"... also because I like much of what you said.

~String

PS-- I googled this place too. ;)

Economic Wargamesl (http://www.totse.com/en/politics/economic_documents/economicwargam179613.html)

GlobaLIES This! (http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=28529)

Alter the economic analysis.

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