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Spectrum
02-25-06, 03:10 PM
...chapters to a book I'm writing. I'm interested in reading your opinions of it.

Fear and vice!

There is a fear within us that is chastening; it constricts us and keeps our souls within bondage. To be free of this slavery we must face our fear: we must question the purpose of this omnipresence. By delving into the subject of purpose and use we may dis-cover the reason for this fear, as everything that has been created has a purpose. We have Sol, our sun, which provides us with light and feeds flora, so we may have fruit and vegetables to eat, and so the flora may feed the world with oxygen, so animals and humans may live; the animals were created to remind humans of their place in the world, and to feed flora with carbon-dioxide, and humans were created so they may fully experience life; so they may talk and exchange ideas and information. Are we to look to a fear that encompasses all of life on the planets then; a fear that suffocates flora, fauna and humans alike, or a fear restricted to certain species’: does a creature fear another simply because it may be the bringer of death, as an ant must fear the anteater, or is there more to dread? Is not the fate of the immortal, immersed within pain, worse than the mortal immersed within the same condition? For the immortal, faced with such circumstances, would wish for death.
So whether we are considering the immortality of deities, or the mortality of all other creatures, we find pain to be defined as a condition to be avoided. So how shall we free ourselves of this situation? We wish to be free of pain, so let us consider pleasure: we must consider the greatest pleasure possible. Some may conclude that sexual intercourse is a suitable reply here, but such action is finite: this behaviour, even committed periodically over an infinite period of time, can never be as great as a feeling that compliments both pleasure and infinity. The reason for intercourse is more than mere pleasure sensation though: the reproduction of another being may also be painful, and we must consider this. We must logically examine the fear to discover the true meaning of what we now know: for every being, every existence, there is a corresponding influence, equal in opposition to the primary existence. Where there is darkness, there can also be light: where there is pleasure, there can also be pain. So then when considering the purpose of things, or when considering something’s use, let us also consider its reverse, ab-use, for as there is normal there is also ab-normal. This will give us a scale by which things may be judged.
Since we have been trying to free ourselves from pain, we have been seeking pleasure, which may be defined by us, but we must discover the purpose of such things. If we assume that the use of intercourse is for procreation, then we will become filled with terror when we consider the world around and the actions of the mortals that fill it: the legality of homo-sexuality, the personality of pornography; the presence of prostitution and disease, and methods of contraception. These things may not simply be definitions of vice though, but affects of an ignorance of hatred. For it is the reverse condition that is seeked by the people, so it would seem that we are not faced with evil, but simply misguidance: in the search for the antithesis of hate we have rejected, with oversight, all that is hate.

As we can see, the ignorance of an entity as important as this can lead to worldly taboos such as those listed above. So, we shall embrace the negative realm that for so long has been neglected, and we shall study it. The greatest act of hatred should be defined as the destruction of life, but should we assume this to be true, then we must also consider that the creation of death is the reverse definition. However these two definitions are not opposites; they are the same. Here a definition must remain constant: we must study either the creation of life, or the destruction of death (immortality). The creation of life would seem to be a fitting definition as the reversal of hatred, for within humanity rarely is so much care and attention lavished upon a being as during infancy, or from the moment of conception. However, this assumes that it is possible to care for something before it has been created: the logic states that something is created because it is cared for, not that it is cared for because it has been created. Now, despite previous successes with logical studies, we must accept that we cannot use such a thing to study emotions because emotions are not logical.

Theoryofrelativity
02-27-06, 12:32 PM
erm, erm.............. maybe its over my head, but I kind of feel like, what's the subject matter? what fear are you talking about? What are you assuming about yourlself and applying to us all? What is the conclusion you seek?

Maybe if you provided a synopsis before the actual chapter content it would help? Sorry its probably a work of great genius, just takes a genius to read it! Please explain what the book is about in its whole.

duendy
02-27-06, 12:43 PM
why have animals been 'created' to help us 'know our place in te world'?? who says this? tis is biblical doctrine. animals are not there for US. they are themselves in their own right

and why does he oppos-site 'logic' rom emotions? why cant there be logic IN emotion? seems to me he has a limited view of logic. typcial of patriarchal ideology

but i go wit where he sees how prejudice against an 'other' is the evil PEOPLE do to each oter. yes i agree with that

Spectrum
02-28-06, 01:31 PM
The purpose of the book is to explore the use of logic within certain areas, beginning with an examination of the purpose of intercourse. Any ideas people?

spidergoat
02-28-06, 01:48 PM
Pretentious. Why use "sol" instead of "sun"? Why use "flora" instead of "plants"? ..and you use it three times!

You don't define the "fear" in the beginning.


everything that has been created has a purpose.
Unsupported assumption.

Contrived use of "we"; it's your essay, not mine. I would use a more conversational tone, the thing is just ponderous.

The subject of desire leading to suffering is well discussed in Buddhist philosophy, it might be worth a look.

Spectrum
02-28-06, 02:06 PM
Pretentious. Why use "sol" instead of "sun"? Why use "flora" instead of "plants"? ..and you use it three times! I used Sol because there are many suns in the universe; Sol happens to be our sun, and I used flora instead of plants because I was also referring to trees and flowers.
You don't define the "fear" in the beginning. Yes because the fear is defined later in the chapter.

everything that has been created has a purpose. Unsupported assumption. Possibly, but doesn't logic require that certain assumptions are to be made, to discover if the result is true or false, and if the result is false, then we can know that the presumposition is false, and we may also then conclude that the reverse must be true.
Contrived use of "we"; it's your essay, not mine. Okay, something I had already considered, but 'we' is a term I wish to use. Thanks for the advice though.
I would use a more conversational tone, the thing is just ponderous. But I have included some 'factual' statements, such as the later reasoning that explains the earlier 'fear'.
The subject of desire leading to suffering is well discussed in Buddhist philosophy, it might be worth a look. Thank you, I will try to read into it.