GeoffP
11-03-06, 11:48 AM
Well, another post with a 0.2 on the ShockoMeter. It might be higher for Ghost, but then again since he's so down with the homies at MCB and MPACUK, maybe not.
Anyway, the MPACUK, a bastion of moderate moderates moderately moderating the modernity of moderate islam, has issued the moderate moderate statement on their moderate moderate web site:
MPAC’s world view is simple. We are at War.
You don't say! That's the very definition of moderate moderity.
MPAC believes every Muslim man woman and child is a target in that War. And we believe that it is FARD upon every capable Adult to defend the Ummah.
From who? Does he say? Let's read on.
We also adopt the position that every Muslim who does not participate in that war is committing a crime against those they allow to be murdered, raped and persecuted and against his or her Lord. Islamically in short it is a major sin that they will be held accountable for on the Dreaded Day of Judgement. Whether or not the failing to take part in Jihad to protect the Ummah leads one into hypocrisy and out of the fold of Islam is something we have not found the answer too. We will be consulting scholars on from all different schools of thought.
When innocent people are murdered one has no option but to act with time or money to fight the Jihad. This is beyond any reasonable doubt to any thinking man, let alone a human guided by the Light Of Muhammad (PBUH).
Wow. So if you don't agree, you're crazy. Well sign me up. I don't want to be crazy! Funnily enough, this has all the ring of the old "he-didn't-convert-away-from-islam-he-just-lost-his-marbles" argument so in vogue with Pakistani legislators this millenium.
We are in real danger. The enemy has a billion Dollar industry working against us. It does not sleep. It is highly active. It is secretive. It will not rest. Until you are destroyed. Knowing your enemy is half the battle but their secretive ways makes this a difficult task. Most Muslims are unaware of the threat until it is too late. Bosnia, Palestine and now Lebanon are an example of this.
Secret enemies! Gasp! Who could they be? :eek: And if it's a billion dollar industry, where's my cheque??
...anyway, seriously: could MPACUK just say the 'J-word' and get on with it? We all know where this one's going, so why wait for the punchline? It's like watching the Three Stooges and wondering what Curly's going to do with the cream pie, alone in a room with Moe.
But how did these..."unidentified *wink wink nudge nudge* enemies"...swing Bosnia? Ah, that's going to be a tricky one. I suppose one could throw it up to the old "Lizardoid-Mossad-CIA-Jews-I-Mean-Israelis-UK-Extraterrestrial-Chimpy McHitler" thingy, but that's getting a little old, don't you think?
We Must Defend Our Ummah
However we cannot fight back in this pathetic state we are in. The enemy is too large, and too powerful.
Yes, the ummah must be defended from freedom of religion, and women, and homosexuals, and Christians, and free political expression, and evolution, and science, and 16-year old girls with "sharp tongues". Of course. Sure, if the ummah had more weapons and such, we could take on bigger targets who are all to blame for everything that happens to them, but at least we're getting after the class enemies now. Women and homosexuals and religious minorities aren't too powerful; that's why they're the perfect canvas for islamic expression.
Those ACTIVE Muslims who will give their time to the Jihad, or their money, are few in number, and no single organisation can take these enemies on.
The few willing to fight are poor, under funded, man power starved Muslim organisations and they cannot compete. There is a capability Gap between the enemy and us. A Gap that must be bridged if we have any hope of protecting ourselves.
The only way to fight back and win against such a powerful enemy is if the Muslims within this country start to become ACTIVE in defending themselves. A complete change in mindset is needed. A turn around from the masses of neutralised Muslims we now have within the Ummah.
Active. What a funny word. What's it mean, I wonder? Active. Protesting? Voting - no, scratch that. Democracy is abhorrent to the ummah. Rioting? Burning slutty embassies? Blowing things up? Hmm. And yet islam doesn't even seem to be able to settle things in Iraq.
And if organizations like CAIR and MPACUK and MCB are underfunded, where can I sign up for some of this underfunding? Saudi petrodollars are fine, thanks: no small bills, please.
This will never be achieved unless the institutions that create these neutralised Muslims are re-created and changed, and where they refuse to change and teach ACTIVE Islam they must be challenged.
There's another curious phrase: "Teach ACTIVE islam." What's that mean, then? The forcing of more stringent sharia? The threefold choice to religious minorities, and tourists, and visitors? Taking Q 2: 256 in it's more usual, Wahhabi-style way? The demand for greater islamification in the West? After all, are muslims living in the West not part of the ummah? Can't a brother get a takfir?
For we realise that unless the current Muslim establishment rapidly moves into this century using modern management techniques and become result driven organisations, run on business lines in the defence of the Ummah, and accept whole heartedly that they are directly responsible for the success of this Jihad, to protect the Ummah we will never be free from threat. There will be no revival of Islam and in time the noose around our necks will be pulled tight. Bosnia is just the beginning for Muslims in the west. It has already started for those of us In the east.
http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/2465/34/
I love the business-feely approach here; it has all the sensitive humanity of an anal rape with a portfolio divider.
But there's the 'Phrase That Slays' again: jihad. Why is "crusade" such a bad word, and "jihad" not? Was the holy war of islam against all other cultures really a nice thing, only we missed it?
Anyway, I wish the MPACUK well in their, er, "internal struggle", as jihad usually gets inappropriately translated these days. Maybe they can internally create enough psychic energy to "protect the ummah", but I have this feeling that's not what's meant here.
Geoff
Anyway, the MPACUK, a bastion of moderate moderates moderately moderating the modernity of moderate islam, has issued the moderate moderate statement on their moderate moderate web site:
MPAC’s world view is simple. We are at War.
You don't say! That's the very definition of moderate moderity.
MPAC believes every Muslim man woman and child is a target in that War. And we believe that it is FARD upon every capable Adult to defend the Ummah.
From who? Does he say? Let's read on.
We also adopt the position that every Muslim who does not participate in that war is committing a crime against those they allow to be murdered, raped and persecuted and against his or her Lord. Islamically in short it is a major sin that they will be held accountable for on the Dreaded Day of Judgement. Whether or not the failing to take part in Jihad to protect the Ummah leads one into hypocrisy and out of the fold of Islam is something we have not found the answer too. We will be consulting scholars on from all different schools of thought.
When innocent people are murdered one has no option but to act with time or money to fight the Jihad. This is beyond any reasonable doubt to any thinking man, let alone a human guided by the Light Of Muhammad (PBUH).
Wow. So if you don't agree, you're crazy. Well sign me up. I don't want to be crazy! Funnily enough, this has all the ring of the old "he-didn't-convert-away-from-islam-he-just-lost-his-marbles" argument so in vogue with Pakistani legislators this millenium.
We are in real danger. The enemy has a billion Dollar industry working against us. It does not sleep. It is highly active. It is secretive. It will not rest. Until you are destroyed. Knowing your enemy is half the battle but their secretive ways makes this a difficult task. Most Muslims are unaware of the threat until it is too late. Bosnia, Palestine and now Lebanon are an example of this.
Secret enemies! Gasp! Who could they be? :eek: And if it's a billion dollar industry, where's my cheque??
...anyway, seriously: could MPACUK just say the 'J-word' and get on with it? We all know where this one's going, so why wait for the punchline? It's like watching the Three Stooges and wondering what Curly's going to do with the cream pie, alone in a room with Moe.
But how did these..."unidentified *wink wink nudge nudge* enemies"...swing Bosnia? Ah, that's going to be a tricky one. I suppose one could throw it up to the old "Lizardoid-Mossad-CIA-Jews-I-Mean-Israelis-UK-Extraterrestrial-Chimpy McHitler" thingy, but that's getting a little old, don't you think?
We Must Defend Our Ummah
However we cannot fight back in this pathetic state we are in. The enemy is too large, and too powerful.
Yes, the ummah must be defended from freedom of religion, and women, and homosexuals, and Christians, and free political expression, and evolution, and science, and 16-year old girls with "sharp tongues". Of course. Sure, if the ummah had more weapons and such, we could take on bigger targets who are all to blame for everything that happens to them, but at least we're getting after the class enemies now. Women and homosexuals and religious minorities aren't too powerful; that's why they're the perfect canvas for islamic expression.
Those ACTIVE Muslims who will give their time to the Jihad, or their money, are few in number, and no single organisation can take these enemies on.
The few willing to fight are poor, under funded, man power starved Muslim organisations and they cannot compete. There is a capability Gap between the enemy and us. A Gap that must be bridged if we have any hope of protecting ourselves.
The only way to fight back and win against such a powerful enemy is if the Muslims within this country start to become ACTIVE in defending themselves. A complete change in mindset is needed. A turn around from the masses of neutralised Muslims we now have within the Ummah.
Active. What a funny word. What's it mean, I wonder? Active. Protesting? Voting - no, scratch that. Democracy is abhorrent to the ummah. Rioting? Burning slutty embassies? Blowing things up? Hmm. And yet islam doesn't even seem to be able to settle things in Iraq.
And if organizations like CAIR and MPACUK and MCB are underfunded, where can I sign up for some of this underfunding? Saudi petrodollars are fine, thanks: no small bills, please.
This will never be achieved unless the institutions that create these neutralised Muslims are re-created and changed, and where they refuse to change and teach ACTIVE Islam they must be challenged.
There's another curious phrase: "Teach ACTIVE islam." What's that mean, then? The forcing of more stringent sharia? The threefold choice to religious minorities, and tourists, and visitors? Taking Q 2: 256 in it's more usual, Wahhabi-style way? The demand for greater islamification in the West? After all, are muslims living in the West not part of the ummah? Can't a brother get a takfir?
For we realise that unless the current Muslim establishment rapidly moves into this century using modern management techniques and become result driven organisations, run on business lines in the defence of the Ummah, and accept whole heartedly that they are directly responsible for the success of this Jihad, to protect the Ummah we will never be free from threat. There will be no revival of Islam and in time the noose around our necks will be pulled tight. Bosnia is just the beginning for Muslims in the west. It has already started for those of us In the east.
http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/2465/34/
I love the business-feely approach here; it has all the sensitive humanity of an anal rape with a portfolio divider.
But there's the 'Phrase That Slays' again: jihad. Why is "crusade" such a bad word, and "jihad" not? Was the holy war of islam against all other cultures really a nice thing, only we missed it?
Anyway, I wish the MPACUK well in their, er, "internal struggle", as jihad usually gets inappropriately translated these days. Maybe they can internally create enough psychic energy to "protect the ummah", but I have this feeling that's not what's meant here.
Geoff