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For those of you who indulge in the herbal relaxation method.....what is the best trippin' song/group for you?
I'd like to nominate the Beatles right off the bat. To me, the Beatles mix amazing trippy sounds with just plain brilliance. Their music is so perfect and sounds intelligent. Floyd is cool and all, but they sound kind of dumb. As if they're just a bunch of pot heads sitting around that accidentally found a guitar. I also don't get people who spend their time listening to Zepplin and such. They listen to songs that are mostly rock or hard rock, and I find that so anti-marijuana most of the time.
So anyway, best songs for me............. (by Beatles)
5) Across the Universe
4) Strawberry Fields
3) I Am the Walrus
2) Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
1) A Day in the Life
Also, any advise to someone trying shrooms for the first time?
05-12-02, 02:14 AM
I always find myself tripping if I happen to hear country music, you know, because it destroys my equilibrium because it is so incredibly awful.
Yes Northwind, Country 'music' is evil, evil, EVIL!
Drop an anvil on anyone playing it, would ya'?
On topic: More drink to relax than anything else...but...
Rolling Stones, 2000 Lightyears would be a good addition. Quite mellow.
Skunk Anansie! (http://www.skunkanansie.com)
Trucking, Grateful Dead...
For those of you who indulge in the herbal relaxation method.....what is the best trippin' song/group for you?Actually, that's a huge list.
Miles Davis: Bitches' Brew ... I have a 2-disc remaster
(These all can be said to be trippy in general.)
The slightly obscure
The Seeds: in general--especially the 10-minute track 900,000,000 People Daily (All Making Love); any fan of The Doors will find this song a welcome familiarity.
*Screaming Trees: People know who this band is; I just don't understand why the Trees didn't sell a billion albums.
*Rheostatics: my first Rheostatics album was Introducing Happiness, but I recommend anything of theirs you can get your hands on.
Band of Susans: The Word and the Flesh is monotonous. Monochrome. Amazingly deep for such dimensionless sound. It includes Rhys Chatham's 13-minute Guitar Trio, an droning, minimalist exploration of one note. Love it ....
Kyuss: if you like Queens of the Stone Age, you'll like Josh Homme's earlier band. (Note: Homme played with Screaming Trees on occasion.)
*Latcho Drom: There was a documentary film about gypsies a few years ago called Latcho Drom. An excellent soundtrack. I used to sit and smoke and listen to this album and watch incense smoke swirl in sunbeams.
The Beach Boys: in terms of trippy, in general doesn't apply. Pet Sounds and Endless Summer do great for me, but I have an underground copy of Smile, the real album behind Smiley-Smile that is assembled from session tapes and notes. There are bootleg vinyls, and I've heard a couple of bootleg assemblies of the album. Brian Wilson has apparently promised that he will deliver Smile before he leaves the planet, and we all look forward to it. Van Dyke Parks (I think) has said that Smile will either prove a bunch of people around Wilson right (an obscure reference) or else prove everybody in popular music to be fools. Smile may be the best album ever, even in its third-party bootleg state. If you know a Beach Boys freak who can find you a bootleg copy, bug them about it.
Soundgarden: while I'm generally appreciative of Soundgarden, Superunknown and Down on the Upside are, in fact, the trippiest.
Monster Magnet: 25 Tab and Spine of God rule. Crushingly trippy°.
*Floater: one of my personal favorites. Glyph and Angels in the Flesh and Devils in the Bone are probably the trippiest. Sink is heavy. Burning Sosobra is cool. Any of 'em will do, but a couple of 'em are trippier.
Radiohead: the last couple of albums have been insanely good, and they've been consistently cool. Even Pablo Honey has its merits, but OK Computer and Amnesiac are mind-numbingly trippy in my opinion.
Tool: yeah. Trippy.
Queens of the Stone Age: imagine going out into the Arizona desert with guitars and turning them all up to eleven. If I recall, incidentally, Screaming Trees' Mark Lanegan spent some time in the studio with QOTSA. But yeah, there's always the Feel-Good Hit of the Summer (http://www.lyricscafe.com/q/queens_stone_age/feelgoodhitofthesummer.html). Sing along, everybody ....
My Bloody Valentine: Loveless is a great album that a friend recommended to me. He loves listening to it high. I like the album, but I haven't the same appreciation he does (he's a sound engineer). If you have a reasonable stereo, don't try to EQ this album; play it loud°.
Phish: I love to see Phish live. I don't actually own a Phish album. But damn, I love seeing them live.
*Massive Attack: I'm just starting to get into this. A friend recommended it to me, and I'm prone to listening to various remixes of Protection that I have mp3'd over and over again.
And a nod, as well, Tyler, to the Beatles. I have somewhere an mp3 of "Veggies" (stereo) by the Beach Boys that features Paul McCartney on carrots. I recommend Wonsuponatime, a Yoko Ono-supervised release of John Lennon material including.
The last Supergrass album rocked. We're expecting big things of them. And then there's the "classics": Led Zep, the Dead ... I don't mock them, but such bands haven't been as much a part of my life; it's too long a story.
And I've got this thing for Irish music, especially Irish music made by non-Irish bands :bugeye:
Anyway, enough out of me ....
° Spine of God is also an excellent album if you ever choose to kill brain cells with nitrous-oxide.
°*Volume instead of EQ also works on Peter Gabriel studio albums. Complex sound engineering sometimes sounds muddy at low volume; properly-engineered sound can get louder than poorly-engineered sound without overloading the senses. If the signal is loud, don't be afraid to pull back the preamp and push from your stereo speakers (e.g. mp3's through a shelf system). For your own sake, use good headphones if you use headphones.
05-12-02, 04:29 AM
Shroomy music can be classical music, or ambient techno. Depends on what you are planning to do. I found opera utterly hilarious to listen to once. If you shroom for the first time I suggest you do it among a small group of people that you know very well and trust, because it΄s not always a "party-drug", it can be very serious and profound, depending on how you feel and what kind of issues that are occuping your mind. Make sure you feel safe within yourself and with your surroundings and the people you are with before taking it. Set and setting , you know. :)
05-12-02, 04:39 AM
Trippy Music... Try the album 'Green' from Steve Hillage and start at 'Unidentified'. :) Play it and listen. :)
It depends on your mood, too. Happy trippin'...:)
Musically, that's an interesting thing. I've seen some great concerts on shrooms; Floater, Roger Waters, Phish. When I first started doing shrooms I hung out with people who listened to bad music. My refuge was an obscure Screaming Trees compilation my brother had made from his collection and sent me on tape. But to tie it to a larger point:
*Using hallucinogens is entirely about what's already going on in your head.
Mushrooms are the safest of the common, potent hallucinogens. I'm familiar with only about four or five species: S. cubensis, P. pelliculosa, P. cyanescens and a couple that, frankly, I can't recall. That sounds ridiculously irresponsible, I know, but you'll have your opportunities. Irresponsible, sure. But not ridiculously so. And both those species proved to be really, really cool. I do, in fact, have an old copy of a symposium on hallucinogenics. I did eventually identify each of them, but I can't find the book right now.
So it comes down to the fact that I regard hallucinogenic mushrooms as far less dangerous than many people consider them. In fact, I consider them a positive influence in my life.
When I was in college I liked to drink ... well, to be honest, Zima with orange wedges ... while on mushrooms. I can chain smoke for six hours on mushrooms.
I personally enjoy doing mushrooms with a small number of friends, though I do enjoy concerts in that condition. But my favorite environment for mushrooms is secure, colorfully and dimly lit, musical, incensed, and heavy with cigarette and pot smoke. Shrooms I'll do alone from time to time. For contrast, I won't do acid in solitude.
These days I favor water while I'm shrooming, though a friend once insisted we go without and I must say there was a particular focus about it that has its merits.
Sex on shrooms is its own subject.
You'd be surprised how easy public conduct actually is on mushrooms. And I'm talking about the grocery store, or how to avoid the attention of the random police officer. Going through security at a concert. That kind of thing. After the first time you sit in your room laughing for four hours straight, you realize that things just get more and more amazing when you're on them. When you translate that into being seen in public, it makes it easier to not laugh your ass off if you just remember that no matter how much you laugh, people will always amaze you.
But I always say I've been fortunate. My first public acid trip was a Nirvana show, so nobody noticed. And tripping at a Phish show, where nobody cares as long as you're not bugging anyone else. Waves of smoke, droves of stoners, gaggles of trippers. I'm in a good place for tripping, and among reasonably conducive people. Which is good. Because if I'm out of balance, I shouldn't be tripping. That's how you can get in trouble. I've tried using them therapeutically, and it can be done. But people do occasionally manage to get themselves into trouble on mushrooms.
But they're flat-out worth it. Unless you happen to be allergic to them. I've only ever met one person who suffered that hideous curse, but apparently it happens.
Sometimes I think of the Babel-fish argument from Hitchhiker. And then I think of marijuana. And then I think of fungus that makes me hallucinate.
When I was in college, I would eat a children's vitamin C tablet an hour before I ate the shrooms. Not long ago, I had mushrooms powdered and mixed with MAO inhibitors. I won't describe the suspension. But I'd recommend having a bottle of Gatorade for when you're back down, or when you wake up. I used to experience this odd duality of wishing I had more (as I was coming down), but knowing that my body doesn't want me doing this again right away. I actually prefer sleeping through the coming down. There's not a huge crash associated with mushrooms, but I'm familiar with this odd pathos that comes with the tragedy of coming down. If you feel it, don't worry about it. Sleep through it; it's more fun because your brain still has a show for you.
Zima....with orange wedges......Oookay.
Why does it not suprise me that Tiassa can write a mini-essay on which drugs are the best? :cool:
Anyways, Tyler, if techno is what you are supposed to listen to, I recommend XTC's 'Ecstasy' or 'Spacegirl'.
On the subject of E, Tiassa....
Ever tried? Any fun?
I avoid Ecstasy because it contains methamphetamine. It's a personal thing between me and meth.
I avoid Zima in the current day because it is a malt liquor. I just prefer so many different forms of alcohol before I want malt liquor.
Tiassa man, where would I be without you?
"Using hallucinogens is entirely about what's already going on in your head."
And if I'm a horny little 16 year old?
"I personally enjoy doing mushrooms with a small number of friends, though I do enjoy concerts in that condition. But my favorite environment for mushrooms is secure, colorfully and dimly lit, musical, incensed, and heavy with cigarette and pot smoke. Shrooms I'll do alone from time to time. For contrast, I won't do acid in solitude."
How dangerous would it be to have four friends all doing it? Two of the guys have tried it once and the other two haven't. Is it stupid to not have a sober person around?
"You'd be surprised how easy public conduct actually is on mushrooms. And I'm talking about the grocery store, or how to avoid the attention of the random police officer. Going through security at a concert. That kind of thing. After the first time you sit in your room laughing for four hours straight, you realize that things just get more and more amazing when you're on them. When you translate that into being seen in public, it makes it easier to not laugh your ass off if you just remember that no matter how much you laugh, people will always amaze you."
I'm betting I end up laughing for 6 hours straight. Does it get annoying (to yourself) when you do that?
"When I was in college, I would eat a children's vitamin C tablet an hour before I ate the shrooms."
"Sleep through it; it's more fun because your brain still has a show for you"
Out of curiosity.......how much would you recommend doing, and how do shrooms differ from acid to you?
I've done shrooms a couple times, acid around 8 or 9 times probably, and E once. It's been years since.
I'd already done acid several times before i did the shrooms with my girlfriend at the time, and though i took half of the bag of shrooms, i noticed hardly any effects, she didn't either, and we ended up smoking up because my girlfriend and i were getting bored. And then we didn't really notice any effects the second time we did it, either. We both felt it was lame compared with acid, which i felt was very unfortunate considering how shrooms are all-natural compared with acid which is a man-made chemical.
Acid can really make you feel like you need to "figure things out." It can make you feel like there's a question just on the tip of your tongue if only you can figure it out. It can really tire you out mentally / emotionally / physically, so make sure you're well-rested before you do it. And don't take too much of it, because once it starts it's like being on a roller coaster ride -- you can't get off until it's over.
I've done acid twice by myself (or was it 3 times? LOL), and because of my nature did enjoy it. In some ways though it seemed more challenging and exhausting by myself compared with when i'd done it with my girlfriend, and i can see how the majority of people probably wouldn't like doing it by themselves, because the majority of people aren't as comfortable with themselves as i am. I've done so much inner work and exploring of myself over the years that i was able to handle it very well, all things considered -- no huge surprises came up that i wasn't able to deal with.
E, i only took half a tablet, so did my girlfriend at the time. We were figuring it would sexually stimulate us, so after we took it we watched a porno together. And suddenly *bampf!* i turned and looked at her, she at me, and we went back to my bedroom together. :) It was pleasant, unique experiencing our love like that. We did something sexually we'd never done before, which was nice in a way, but we felt compelled to give ourselves to each other in a deeper way than we ever had before. Unfortunately i couldn't maintain an erection while on it, but that's the way it is with me and alcohol and acid, too. (fortunately it's not like that with bud -- hehehe)
As far as music goes, it depends on my mood. Anymore i have over 400 mp3's that i listen to randomly shuffled, though i skip past those that i'm not in the mood for at the time. I listen to a very wide variety of music. 2 of my favorite songs are Sadeness by Enigma and Sting's techno version of Desert Rose. Recently i've been exploring Lithuanian culture and music, both traditional as well as modern. I use Audiogalaxy Satellite to download very rare songs, though it isn't as good as it was before they copyrighted so many of the songs. And for those that i can't get on AGS, i download over Grokster. I used to use KaZaa before they were bought out, and before that, iMesh.
If any of you likes "erotic techno-trance," with a female vocalist who has a beautiful voice, check out Sunscreem's cd called O3 -- it's an all-time favorite. Songs like Portal, Pressure, Love U More, Perfect Motion, and Release Me -- others are good too.
05-12-02, 02:16 PM
Best trippin' music ever, was produced by Weather Report, check out the albums Black Market and Heavy Weather. 70's fusion, yeah is where it's at!
05-12-02, 02:17 PM
I lump acid/shrooms/mescaline all together (kinda)
Acid was more of a - clenched jaw/fist-laugh at everything and everyone, lots of fun. Had 1 bad trip though - I actually thought I was going to get stuck in that state of mind forver - totally freaked out. My advise to anyone who gets that way - find 1 thing to think about - just1 and dont let your mind wander. It worked and I never took acid again.
Shrooms - much more mellow. Didnt laugh as much, didnt affect me like acid.
Mescaline (aka micro dots) - Funnest drug ever. Just like acid, but without the visuals. Kinda like E, but E was way more mellower. Mescaline gave me a permanant smile on my face for about 6 hours.
E - Now this has got to be the best drug ever made. The pure MDMA of course. Not the sh*t they have nowadays that affects you more like crank. Last time I raved, roughly 3 years ago, I did some E and for the next 2 days I fainted 3 times. I know it had to laced with something, so I never took it again. Too bad, cuz the 3 years I did E - it was awesome. I always good hookup on the good stuff though.
Weed - still do weed, dont know if Ill ever quit.
Acid - Enya! Enya all damn night while frying on acid. (oh, and someone asked earlier why take Vitamin C? It prolongs the acid in your body, potassium brings it down. So you eat a banana to bring yourself down, and an orange to keep your high giong)
Mescaline - Techno/trance music was best on this.
E - Same thing, techno/trance. When on E, half the time you want to dance, then you just want to sit and smoke, then you want to go to talk to everyone you see.
Weed - Marley! Marley everday!!!
Thats all for now,
Toke On!!!!! :)
05-12-02, 03:44 PM
The following are no way related to the state of mind while on drugs: :p
The Orb (Orbital)
Armond Van Helden
Dj Producer (aka Sven Vath)
As for Dj's with the mixes:
You speak too kindly.
Horny 16 year-old
At 19, I found mushrooms too distracting to actually f--k while doing them. But yeah ... I would actually predict a strong sensuality. In fact, I remember one occasion when I was in college that my girlfriend stood there staring at herself, babbling about pissing herself or cumming or something ... in fact, she did neither insofar as I could tell, but rather what was happening, and what I experienced, too, were abdominal and other muscular contractions. Said contractions will feel joyously familiar to you if you encounter them. I cannot tell if it's a standard reaction or a species-specific reaction.
Nonetheless, free love seems like a really good idea when you're shrooming.
Should be fine. That depends, though, on each person.
The nearest thing to a warning I can offer is that it's unkind to f--k with people's psyches when they're on hallucinogens. On the one hand, it can be really, really fun. To the other, that's partially how bad trips happen, and bad trips are where the horror stories come from.
*Laughing for 6 hours straight
I saw an old comedy festival on ComCent once that featured a young(er) Bill Maher, who joked about the French and cuisine. Mushrooms: this goes well with the butter sauce, this with the red wine ... this one makes you laugh for six hours ....
It's a great ride when you laugh consistently.
It annoys sober people, but by and large even if you're being inappropriate, you're having too much fun to be annoyed with yourself. I recall once, doing acid with some friends--it was a great day for it, too--we walked to a park, played on the swings, and then got caught in the most profound downpour and electrical storm. We went back to my dorm room, lightning still tracing in our vision, and proceeded to crush ourselves with dope and cigarettes. Our laughter was apparently audible well farther than any of us expected, as every once in a while, the RA would knock on the door to see what was going on. He was met by a wall of smoke each time, but at the time, smoking was allowed in the dorm rooms, and the amount of cigarettes we were smoking ... yeah, it covered the dope. But that's about the only danger you have when laughing. That, and, of course, blacking out from O2 deprivation, but I haven't experienced that. But like I said, public conduct is easier than you might think. It really is an attitude, a Zen thing about not trying. My mother once told me how happy she was that I was "off marijuana" (I never claimed to be, so I have no idea where she got that); she said I acted like I was so much happier. I was bombed to the gills for that conversation.
Vitamin C/MAO inhibitors
We learned something odd about Vitamin C; it was supposed to put chemicals in your brain that accented the high. Yeah, I hold with it; I would get more acute "twists" of reality. I'll get to those in a second.
MAO inhibitors, same note. I don't know if the two together work.
In terms of effects, mushrooms have typically accented the red end of the spectrum visually; that is, reds and oranges become blazingly rich.
But the MAO inhibitors brought out vibrant blues and living greens where I didn't expect them. It was pretty impressive.
*Twists of reality
Picture this: you're at peace, lying on your back and staring at the ceiling. Sound fades and the lights shift, and suddenly it feels like you're collapsing inward--yawn and pop your ears, and then put that process in reverse. That's part of it. It's a temptation to let yourself sink, but consciousness inherently resists it. That is, I can't even try to let it happen. Being aware of the process seems to cancel it immediately. So I've never found out what's on the other side of the vortex.
When I tax my body out, my brain will occasionally overcharge. At least, that's the way I describe it. We once thought we had it pinned down to drug use, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
On mushrooms, though, I did once suffer the most ridiculous of hot flashes and had to be helped to my room to chill it. After what seemed like an eternity, the weariness that came after nearly passing out passed and I was impatient to get back about my trip. I went back out into the other room and found out I was gone only about five minutes.
I've only met one person allergic to mushrooms. He said his symptoms included a swelling of the body and a ridiculous hot-flash. Unlike my episode, though, his persisted for a half-hour and he never did mushrooms again so the connection is tenuous. Toward tenuous connections, though, I should point out my tenuous cocaine connection, but just for reference.
I woke up twitching on the floor of a mens' room last year the day after doing, well, a mountain of coke. "Passing out" in the common, alcohol-related, "I'm going to bed and passing out," manner, is something I've become quite familiar with over time. But blacking out and waking up on my back, twitching and drooling, was not something I foresaw or appreciated. I calculated my condition and traced it to (A) dehydration as a contributing factor, and (B) cocaine as the primary factor. Needless to say, my questions about coke are well answered. But then it happened six months removed from cocaine (it should be noted that my dalliance with cocaine was short and stable enough to not develop a dependency; to the other, it was enough to make me understand why other people can't stop). I was sitting in a bar, nowhere near drunk, eating pizza, and suddenly I'm on the floor and my associates tell me it was a seizure of some sort and not merely passing out. Interesting, indeed. There goes my definitive cocaine connection, eh? So that's what I mean by tenuous. It would seem evident, but there are circumstances arguing against it.
I stand by my statement that mushrooms are the safest of the potent hallucinogens, but potent is a tricky word. LSD, shrooms, and now MDMA fill my criteria as potent hallucinogens. To the other, I have a tin of dried passionflower which was given to me as an "extremely mild hallucinogen" that I smoke with marijuana every now and then. So we can limit ourselves, for the moment, to the potent three I've mentioned. Mushrooms are not without their risks, though.
Some people have a tendency to vomit when they eat mushrooms. It is, first and foremost, a poison. But even those who puke can have decent trips; it seems to be a matter of how long they keep them down. But vomiting is not a standard reaction, and I can say that I've felt the need before, but shrooms still haven't caused me to puke.
Cigarettes and mushrooms
This is important: the only thing about cigarettes and mushrooms that should be noted is that (A) I tend to smoke like a factory when tripping, and (B) don't smoke cloves around fire alarms.
Beyond that, there is a link between shrooms and respiration. Breathing is an interesting experience. I have been known to put it this way: every once in a while, I have to consciously think about breathing. Being that time is so messed, I can't quite describe the difference in terms of how much or how often you breathe, but my own breathing is shallow and slow when I'm shrooming.
Gotta run ...
"Said contractions will feel joyously familiar to you if you encounter them. I cannot tell if it's a standard reaction or a species-specific reaction"
"The nearest thing to a warning I can offer is that it's unkind to f--k with people's psyches when they're on hallucinogens. On the one hand, it can be really, really fun. To the other, that's partially how bad trips happen, and bad trips are where the horror stories come from."
In which case I'm fucked. One of these friends is a complete maniac, hilarious actor. I have no doubt he'll do his best to fuck us up. However, it'll be good and funny.
"Picture this: you're at peace, lying on your back and staring at the ceiling. Sound fades and the lights shift, and suddenly it feels like you're collapsing inward--yawn and pop your ears, and then put that process in reverse. That's part of it. It's a temptation to let yourself sink, but consciousness inherently resists it. That is, I can't even try to let it happen. Being aware of the process seems to cancel it immediately. So I've never found out what's on the other side of the vortex."
That is very, very intersting. The other day I did a lot of hydro marijuana and I think it may have been laced with something because I was hallucinating to the music. Everyone remember the old Super Mario games? Well I waslistening to Sgt. Pepper's on my computer room chair when I sat back on that chair. I tipped backwards on my chair with my feet on a gabage can when suddenly the floor disappeared and four strings were attatched to the four corners of my tipped chair. Then the chair disappeared and I was climbing up a rope in a large black void. Then below me there was one of those plant creatures that popped out of the green tubes in the old mario games. It got bigger and bigger until it swallowed me and my eyes opened and the end of Seargent Pepper's came on. Excellent, excellent experience.
"I stand by my statement that mushrooms are the safest of the potent hallucinogens, but potent is a tricky word. LSD, shrooms, and now MDMA fill my criteria as potent hallucinogens. To the other, I have a tin of dried passionflower which was given to me as an "extremely mild hallucinogen" that I smoke with marijuana every now and then. So we can limit ourselves, for the moment, to the potent three I've mentioned. Mushrooms are not without their risks, though."
Okay, new question pops up. What is Morning Glory? I've heard lots about how the seeds of this plant are an hallucinogen, but I don't know if I believe it. I mean, how could we sell these things legally if they were? The only explination I can come up with is that it must take a TON of the seeds to actually get you high and that the real Morning Glory as a drug is an extract or something. Do you know???
And what is a good amount to do for shrooms? Any advise on doing them, as in timing or what to do them with...?
ExcellentMy opinion exactly.
In which case I'm fucked. One of these friends is a complete maniac, hilarious actor. I have no doubt he'll do his best to fuck us up. However, it'll be good and funny. Well, it's a fine line. I once had my girlfriend believing there was a miniature purple dragon hiding in her glass of water. It was hilarious until she believed me and got scared. Whoops. By and large, treat it like the Force: trust your instincts. I've always found the counterf--k to be effective. Just direct the joker's attention (?!) to anything. It'll fascinate him. You know, something like, "Well, it would be funny if it wasn't for the spider-lizard on the drapes that's about to bite you." Be careful, though. It is possible to send someone screaming into the night that way.
Hallucinogenics render you extremely susceptible to suggestion. Hazardous barbiturates? Why? If you want to "truth serum" someone, give 'em a dose of psilocybin. Not much. Just enough to loosen them up. I went to work in that condition once--mildly tripped. It salvaged my job in the sense that I was ready to quit until I put myself through that pace for a few days. But I did notice that I couldn't stop telling people the truth. As in, "Well, that's f--king stupid," instead of, "There might be a problem in that." Not the best way to act while at work.
The other day I did a lot of hydro marijuana and I think it may have been laced with something because I was hallucinating to the music ....It's possible. It might have just been really good hydro. (For comparison, there apparently existed in the time of the conquistadores a tobacco strain that would make you hallucinate. Even scarier, I once saw a slide of a vase or jar from somewhere on the Yucatan that depicted the high priest receiving an enema. Apparently the literature speaks to this use of hallucinogenic tobacco. I can't read the language, and had to trust the in-class translation.)
Sounds like a hell of a ride, though. The "worst" pot experience I ever had was right as I was starting to smoke in college. Just a bad run with a seed, a shitty screen, and a two-inch bolt pipe that was my sacred tool because I got it in Haight-Ashbury. But after hacking on a burning seed, it took hours to bring my respiration and pulse back to normal. I even tried to sleep in that condition, and had a "death dream" of a bunch of vaguely familiar faces giving me a nod, a wink, and a fare-thee-well. Apparently, when I started breathing again, it scared the hell out of my girlfriend. But nobody could describe my unconscious condition to me; when I say "started breathing again", I mean that's my best guess. I woke up with a godawful gasp and that was that.
Yours sounds much, much better.
Okay, new question pops up. What is Morning Glory? I've heard lots about how the seeds of this plant are an hallucinogen, but I don't know if I believe itTo be technical for a moment, There are some amides of lysergic acid contained in the seeds of two species of morning glory (Rivea corymbosa, also called Turbina corymbosa, and Ipomoea tricolor, also called I. rubrocaerulea or I. violacea). (Britannica (http://www.britannica.com/psychedelic/textonly/hallucinogen.html))
This is a morning glory (http://www.photovault.com/Link/Orders/Flora/Flowers/Species/MorningGlory.html).
Never done it myself. I caught a couple of testimonies while looking it up at Google. It's mild. Affects your vision in subtle ways. But few people hallucinate.
It's largely the same with the passion flower. I couldn't describe what exactly it did to me to a friend of mine. So he smoked it anyway. And then he understood why I couldn't tell him. It's super-subtle, and it might be that someone who doesn't use illicit substances might not even notice what's going on.
I figure, though, I'll come across it eventually. I generally don't seek those things out because I've had the experience of standing there with someone who was jonesing and knew his pharmacology. I just didn't feel like busting into people's gardens for a dubious high. And there's a lot of folklore out there. I may have heard of morning glory as an hallucinogenic before, but I couldn't tell you where. It's just that it sounds vaguely familiar. However, if you had asked me about passion flower back in September, I would have laughed my ass off at the notion of it. Silly, silly me ;)
And what is a good amount to do for shrooms? Any advise on doing them, as in timing or what to do them with...?Umm ... let's see ... you're in Canada. (Must think metric for a moment.) Anywhere from 1.5 to 3.5 grams should do you well enough as far as raw mushrooms are concerned. If you get it in capsules ... I can't help you there. If it's in little chocolate discs ... one should suffice. My first time ever, we split an eighth (3.3 g) 'twixt three of us and the ceiling ran like a waterfall for me. The last shrooms I had, I ended up having about 2 grams to myself and split the other 1.5 between two friends of mine who said, "Hey, can I have some?!" At less than a gram each, they both blazed. They were pretty good shrooms, too. I got the collapsing sensation off that 2-gram dose. Over the last few years, I've needed to push to the full eighth in order to get that. Turns out to be a quality issue and not a tolerance issue, which is encouraging to me. (I can keep doing them without having to do tons.)
When I started doing mushrooms, I tried all sorts of things. Put 'em on pizza (don't cook them, says me, but theories split on that point) if you want. I once ate them with a spoonful of peanut butter, which was creepy but worked well enough. Somewhere in there, though, I got sick of sitting around for a half hour while people argued about what to eat them with; I learned to eat them straight. Water helps.
And on the H2O note ... when you put a magic mushroom in your mouth, it stays relatively dry, chewy, and slightly flaky. (It was always fun to pick a piece of mushroom out of my teeth the next morning; it would always ping my brain.) But if you take them with water, expect that infamous slimy feel about them. But since you're chewing them before you use the water, it helps them go down easier.
Ever puke while smoking dope? It happens. Almost happened to me last night after several beers. Sad correlation of interior factors after drinking and smoking a nasty, harsh bong. At any rate, if you're familiar with the, To hell if I'm going to puke on dope sensation, then you're well-prepared to combat any retching reflex that comes with shrooms.
My big advice? Stick 'em into your cheek and chew them without getting them on your tongue. I can have the things in my mouth, but if they go straight onto the tongue, there's a fair chance of a gag-reflex. (Note: the various hallucinogenic mushrooms are, in fact, the only mushrooms I eat; I may be overstating this point, but then again people with more diverse palates than mine have had trouble with mushrooms.)
And try not to think about the fact that they were grown in horseshit while you're eating them. It helps to put that out of mind. Nor is the horseshit exclusively true.
Above all else, enjoy the hell out of it. :D
09-20-08, 02:37 PM
Pauls boutiqe or justin warfield my field trip to planet 9
09-20-08, 02:49 PM
Goa or psy trance.
09-20-08, 02:55 PM
09-20-08, 03:37 PM
Try DJ Shadow "Entroducing" beastie boys "pauls boutuiqe"justin warfield "my field trip to planet 9" spirit "12 dreams of dr sardonicus" badass on shrooms
09-20-08, 05:38 PM
This is a really cool thread for me right now because I'm really heavily exploring psychedelic music/philosophy. I've had two experiences with mushrooms, the first time was a pretty significant exposure for me because I'd never even concieved that a waking physical state of mind could be so intense (as a proprieter of cliche, it just so happened that I ended up listening to Tool's 10,000 Days during the trip). The second experience was pretty much a slow burn without the crescendo (yawn). I'll probably try acid once or twice but I don't really have any ambition to venture too far beyond your basic diet of weed and mushrooms. I have done E a few times but that's only because I lack real judgement.
Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgaaIdc5Y4)
Jethro Tull - Song For Jeffery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oK3CF33dwA)
The Beatles - Within You Without You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbPj3d90qME)
Pink Floyd - Several Species of Small Furry Animals... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo)
Wolf Parade - Kissing the Beehive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2shLapSNr0U) (from an album called "At Mount Zoomer", you do the math!)
The Aliens - Caravan (a total psychedelic freakout, very hypnotic song suites melting into one another)
Iron & Wine - Wolves
The Black Angels - You in Colour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxTrYb2Po-E)
Panda Bear - Bros (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwwlCSHo50o&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLR,GGLR:2005-49,GGLR:en&q=the%)
Animal Collective - Purple Bottle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxY5bF5Ba9I)
Ween - Zoloft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zMX2UwRwjk)
Tool - Rosetta Stoned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJAfbiRX7s)
Sigur Ros - Ny Batteri (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNWJ7lbshzQ)
Radiohead - In Limbo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY_DUtRfuqA)
Plants and Animals - Mercy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvjxAmvm70)
I don't indulge in narcotics, but I'd like to suggest Floating Flower.
It's the ultimate tripping music, even without any herbs.
Here's a sample: http://piparmetra.net/ftp/ff.mp3
09-20-08, 06:27 PM
09-21-08, 02:03 AM
According to my friend Zeke, classic 1970s Tangerine Dream.
02-13-09, 01:38 PM
Soundtribe Sector 9 is life changing stuff. If you can get any of their new years show at the Tabernacle its definitely worth a listen. Luma Daylight and Lo Swaga are my favorites but i really like Baraka as well. Its pretty hard to go wrong with their stuff. A Perfect circle 13th step is good front to back. The Nurse Who Love d Me and The Noose are epic. On a completely random note, Allanis Morisette-Uninvited does some serious things to me. The rise and fall of her voice in combo with the orchestra shatters my soul
02-13-09, 01:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc4qi03QgOg&feature=related Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjXgRo2WGs&feature=related Part 2
02-13-09, 02:20 PM
I recommend deep forest
setting the sights back a bit.. a band called Spirit
RIP Randy California
02-13-09, 02:26 PM
02-13-09, 03:08 PM
Goa or psy trance.
I like Progressive House (John Digweed, Hernan Cattaneo, Satoshi Tomeii) better. It's darker, a bit bouncier, has harder hitting beats and is a bit more sexual than trance is.
Although I do love me some Paul Oakenfold, Paul Van Dyk and Christopher Lawrence trance too.
02-13-09, 03:09 PM
Although I like psytrance and other electronica for tripping music, I'm partial to post rock because I like to sit back and relax for a trip. Some of my favorite bands to listen to with links to youtube:
- Godspeed You! Black Emperor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZFzJr9NnPE&fmt=18)
- God is an Astronaut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwuazUXiE1o&fmt=18) *current favorite
- This Will Destroy You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htGmTJNsOr0&fmt=18)
- Yndi Halda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeaO1nR79Lw&fmt=18)
- Do Make Say Think (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyx76o1P35Y&fmt=18)
Shpongle - Chucumba
02-13-09, 08:02 PM
Here are a few recommendations for albums.
BTW ---I'm picking albums because if your fried out of your gourd, you shouldn't bother spending any time fooling with the music player selecting individual songs. Just turn it on, and leave it alone. Go play some cards or drink beer or watch your hand morph into weird shapes or something......
Performer - Album:
1. Squarepusher - Music Is Rotted One Note
2. Ozric Tentacles - Absorbescence
3. Muslimgauze - Zealot
4. Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
5. Coil - Gold is the Metal (with the broadest Shoulders)
6. The Mad Professor - The Evolution of Dub
7. The Melvins - Gluey Porch Treatments
8. Negativeland - Free
9. Steve Roach - Core
10. Plastikman - Consumed
11. Smegma - Pigs for Lepers
12. Monster Magnet - Superjudge (much tripper than Spine of God in my opinion)
13. Sleep - Sleep's Holy Mountain......volume one is also good
14. William S Burroughs - Dead City Radio
02-16-09, 05:50 PM
-Alt - land - is
For All Mankind
We Cannot Move
Istwan / Could It Be So ?
Two Of A Kind