Since the US is destined to influence global policy - why dont the rest of us have a say in the next US election ...

It's called the US election for a reason. It is for US citizens to decide on who they want as president. Therefore we don't and should not have a say in the matter.

Our role is to point and laugh when a president is appointed not by the people but by the courts:D... lol.

The US President is not elected in a popular vote, it is a system called the electoral College. It is based on the number of representatives from the states. It went to the courts because after even the third recount, Al Gore kept fighting it, even though he did not win the majority vote, hence the need for the court to stop the nonsense by the Gore campaign. Bush won legitimately according to US election laws, not Gore. Besides, I shudder to think of what Gore would have done given the events that have happened. A jellyfish has more of a spine than that guy.

Gore tried in vain to illegally steal the Florida vote. For instance trying to void off shore votes by Florida residents serving in the Military.

I also shudder to think what state the US would be in now if he had won the Presidency.

A jellyfish has more of a spine than that guy.

A jellyfish has more brains than Bush! When was the last time Bush put an intelligent sentence together, much less a book.


Gore tried in vain to illegally steal the Florida vote.

Oh, my God, you couldn't be more wrong. Catherine Harris illegally denied many legitimate voters the right to vote, the recount was prematurely, and illegally halted, and the Bush's buddies in the Supreme Court basically appointed him.

Gore would have done a good job after 9/11, if it even would have happened at all under him.

The popular vote not the electorial vote; this here is what started the controversy;

have a nice read:

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_2000

Godless.

Originally posted by gangadeen
Since the US is destined to influence global policy - why dont the rest of us have a say in the next US election ...

If someone wants to vote for the next American president, why don't they become an American? Or, if a country feels it is impacted that much by American politics, why not become an American state?

I can see countries lining up to be the 51st state already!

Personally, I'm more in favour of a boycott of american products. Sure, theres not a lot left, but its worth a try.

Guthrie, we still produce more than any other country in the world, that is our Corporations do just not here in the states!!

So in essence you boicot US products, you put millions of people in China, India, SouthAmerica, etc.. Unemployed. Does not make sence now does it?

Godless.

That depends on how you look at it. Maybe if they owned the means of production themselves, it woldnt matter. At the momnt its all too easy to swell the coffers of an american multinational. Hey, wheres the buy american people when you need them? Lets remeber that globalisation is built upon a rickety and larcenous financial structure, according to axioms that are outdated and not intended for their current use.

The job of electing the president has got NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE. Everyone read that at least five times. Get it?

The job of electing the president lies with the 50 sovereign States. Each State that joins the Union gets a number of votes equal to the number of representatives it sends to Congress plus two.

It is the Sovereign States' responsibility to elect the Executive Branch. It is the People's responsibility to elect the Legislative Branch.

The popular vote is IRRELEVANT since we are a REPUBLIC, not a democracy.

NOTE: I'm not discussing the ethics or morals or whether it is right or wrong, I'm stating what is. The facts.

The Constitution declares the Union a Republic. The Constitution also assigns the responsibilities of electing the executive branch (presidency) and the legislative branch (congress).



So: Moral of the story: It is the 50 Sovereign States' decision, NOT the people's and most certainly not damn foreigner's.

How about we let Americans have a say in the policies of foreign nations? It seems only logical, since we are so often expected to defend their oppressed, feed their hungry, cure their sick, etc.

I am with Galt here, we need more Paul Bremers to tell the locals how to wipe their asses....

BTW: just got back from a short holiday in Turkey, our plane was delayed because there was a terrorist attempt on the Antalya airfield to hijack a plane and crash it into a nearby u.s. millitary base....

How was Turkey?

There are several Middle Eastern and Islamic countries I would like to visit, but won't out of safety concerns.

Go anyway, ya big chicken: The risk-benefit is ratio is hugely positive. The most horrific risk by far is that if you travel the mideast a lot and start routinely considering the other perspectives encountered, you'll be accused of going {shudder} liberal.

Turkey was very interesting, especially to see the contrasts of modern turks and islamic turks, this funny mix is held together by a very very strong nationalism, you see turkish flags on every corner, boat, shop etc. Officially a boat or hotel can only raise the Turkish flag unless the the other flags are smaller (ataturk, who is remembered like a halvegod by everybody, probably had a small dick):p

Sadly it was not really hunting season, I was told many Russian females go to turkey for holidays but no nataschas and we had quite a few days with rain and storm.

The locals told me the best time to go to Turkey is feb - may and sept- nov, the winter is soft but too wet and the summer is just too hot (45 degrees Celsius)

The food and the raki was suberb however and in the second week a new busload brought some entertaining dutch females.