I think that Plo Koon (that orange-faced Jedi master who sits and does nothing) is a most underated character. He is even in Episode II during the big battle sequence. Look for him.

P.S. please submit something

Over-rated: Luke, the series really wouldn't sell if it wasn;t for Han.

Underated: All of the Star Wars bad guys. Seriously no one gives credit to the fact Star Wars has the best bad guys. Vader without a doubt is the best villian in film history. At least thats how I feel.

Storm Troopers from the original movies. They were supposed to be elite soldiers, and they were beaten up by teddy bears?! :eek:

Yeah but at least they had better aim then James Bond guards :D

You see the Storm Troopers were forced to fight where as the Rebels faught for a cause they believed in.

"You see the Storm Troopers were forced to fight where as the Rebels faught for a cause they believed in."

No trained solider, no matter how little he cares for his cause, could be as bad as the storm troopers were.

Over - Obiwan in the original ones. I really wasn't a big fan of him. Not the acting, just his part in general.

Under - Yoda and Han. In the original series that is. Now that Yoda has fought everyone loves him. In the original series I thought he was one of the best characters. And Han carried the movies. Or, Harrison Ford did.

No trained solider, no matter how little he cares for his cause, could be as bad as the storm troopers were.

Correction

No UNTRAINED solider, no matter how little he cares for his cause, could be as bad as the storm troopers were.

I could do better than them

underrated:
jango fett & R2D2

overrated:
jar jar

and yeah yoda has finally gotten the recognition he deserves, even lego caught on and made a 14" yoda head!

http://www.lego.com/starwars

hmm... I think Jango didn't get enough time in the movie, but he wasn't underrated. I mean, he killed a few jedi and lasted more than a minute against windu. It takes balls to go up against him!

The most underrated character in the original was Grand Moff Tarkin. He was more evil than palpatine in more ways than one. And how about that stormtrooper who bangs his head on the blast door? He deserves some credit. :D The most overrated is almost any of the jedi. Their lightsabre techniques are too focused on looking kickass that I could take out almost any of them. It's hard to enjoy stupid flourishes when you know as much about swords etc. that I do.:D :cool:

Ben, if you did not know by now I am somewhat of a swordsman myself. And yes evey movie I can think of that pictures sword use (except fencing maybe) are quite false in the way they picture it. However, we are dealing with lightsabers, fictional devices that look incredibly cool whilst being twirled around.

Is it just me or do the jedi appear to show their back a LOT to the enemy in a fight?

Underated: Sebulba - This dude had some classic one liners in Episode 1. My personal favorite: "Poodoo!"

Luke is not overrated, I had a crush on him for weeks, or was it more...he was soooo cute.
Darth Maul on the other hand...totally plastic.

Originally posted by Tyler
Is it just me or do the jedi appear to show their back a LOT to the enemy in a fight? '

Not only that, but they expose the general area of the body that contains most of the vital organs.:bugeye:

ObiWan!!
They should make a whole movie about him!!
(the new one :P)
He is so damn sexy!!

The storm troopers were seriously overrated.

They took the place of the Keystone Cops and it would seem could do no right. How could any empire fight with such troops? Much less win. To be the size that the films suggests the empire is either there are a lot of whoosies out there begging to be taking over or the film failed to build a serious creditablity for the basic bad guy.

The clones are incredibly cooler.:cool:

master windu ROCKS, he is SO COOL

and YODA
YAYYAYAYAYAYAYYAY

what can you say about yoda, he is just WAY to good

Couldn't say it better myself.:D And Jarrod, the clones are so cool.:cool:

Remember that Jedi Knight in the big battle with the green skin and tendrils for hair?

According to the packaging for his action figure, his name is...

...wait for it...

KIT FISTER!

"What can I do for you today, Master Fister?"


hoohooheeheehahahahahaha...now THAT'S underrated!

Sorry if I sound like a noob, but how are the Stormtroopers in Episode IV different than the clones used in Episode II? Are the IV troopers just regulars guys that were forced into the imperial force? The troopers in II seemed to be a bit more individualistic, even though they were all based on Jango.

For what I have understood the stormtroopers in episode IV are not clones, but common soldiers who has been enlisted to the empire, and the armor is designed differently.

Storm Troopers are the biggest wusses in history. They outnumber anyone, have guns, and big AT-ST's, but they get the crap kicked out of them by a bunch of furry midgets!

With the Jedi exposing their back and stuff - isn't that cos they're usually outnumbered? :bugeye:

Dave, I'm pissing in my pants. That is so true. I wouldn't take any of that crap from a teddy bear with a sling shot. I'd just raise my laser rifle and say to it 'Come on, it'll be fun' and squeeze the trigger and Bam Right Between the eyes.
How could the AT-ST's get blown up by two peices of wood. The can withstand blaster fire and rockets, but not a peice of wood. That one was definatly a kiddy movie.
Anywho, most over rated is definatly Darth Vader. Cool as he was, just people love him for the wrong reasons.
Under rated, the Scout Troopers.
A - They have cool armour
B - One of them actually killed an Ewok (YAY:D :D :D )
C - They get those speeder bikes
D - They actually put up a fight.

Lesion, that trooper who bangs his head. Kudos to him. Kudos.

The Clones are super cool. They could lose the Aussie accent though.

TIE Fighter pilots are pretty wussy too. Have you ever noticed how short they really are?:confused:

They are short, aren't they:confused: .
They have cool helmets but that makes them look really thin and weird. A bit like jockeys aren't they:D

Hmm... jockey rimes (spelling?) with hockey...

they'd look good playing ice hockey.

just a good look at how my mind works:D :bugeye: :eek:

Ice Hockey, hmm.

Vader could be the goalie:D

lol. Chewie could be a centre

Jawas for def:D

I ehat Jar Jar Binks!!!!!! :mad:

It's all good. :)

Overrated: Irv Skywalker
Underrated: Darth Skippy

"Metaphors be with you..."

Underrated: Darth Mauhl, I mean he got it bad because he was in a crap movie but dude was GANGSTER! Cool make-up, he actually looked scary, he's more mobile then Vader (not saying he can even be compared but...) I mean compare lightabre battles from now to then, way more action-packed now. I understand what Cactus and Lesion are saying when it comes to the sword fights being a little uhhhhh, dramatic but I agree with Cactus, I mean c'mon! They're LIGHTSABRES! And I thought the Phantom Menace dual was breath-taking. Plus he killed Qui-Gon. So basically I think Darth Mauhl got the shit end of the stick cuz he was in The Phantom Menace but I think he made the movie watchable.

Over rated? Maybe Count Dooku? What did ya'll think of him?

Dukoo is a great character. He fights Yoda who was his master and that's why he turned to the Dark Side. He couldn't surpass his master in skill so he took the easy way out.

Plo Koon is the greatest but no one seems to notice. If he were in a scene by himself or with another jedi with some action he would be noticed more.

Hell Yea!!!!

I should know this, but which one is Plo Kloon (I'm pretty sure he's a jedi). Is he the guy with the coneheadish head who loses his saber at the massive arena battle in ep 2?

There was also that blue guy, he was in the background when Anakin and Obi were talking to the council in the beginning of Ep 2, and then at the end he's there and he jumps down to kill Dooku but he gets shot, like, immediately by Jango. When I saw that happen I was like "you stupid fuck, you're a jedi, you only get killed by other jedi, you stupid...fuck." :D

Plus he was on the council, they're better than that, damnit! Those droids didn't have a frigging chance and they were kicking ass until the clones arrived!! I mean, come on!

No Pollux, he has an orange face. here is some info from starwars.com:

The Force runs strongly in Plo Koon's family; he was a descendent of a long line of Jedi. He shared a long history with fellow Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, and the two have fought beside each other in battle. Koon had hoped to see his friend join the Jedi Council, but Jinn's maverick views kept him from ascending to that position.

Plo Koon was a Kel Dor from the planet Dorin. His physiology was such that he wore protective goggles and his face-concealing antiox mask whenever in oxygen-rich environments. As a Dorin, Koon naturally possessed highly developed extrasensory organs that supplement his already formidable Jedi attributes.

Koon was more martial a Jedi than most. Kel Dor natives have a reputation for seeing moral issues in black and white, with clear distinctions between right and wrong. As such, Koon often took decisive action with little contemplation. This initiative served him well during the Stark Hyperspace Wars, when he took up the Republic banner after a great Jedi Master was killed. Koon rallied the disheartened troops to an unlikely and miraculous victory.

and a pic:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/plokoon/index_eu.html

You can't say this guy isn't cool....


http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kitfisto/index.html

Hey look, I found Yoda's biotch.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/yaddle/index_movie.html

Plo Koon is the greatest but no one seems to notice. If he were in a scene by himself or with another jedi with some action he would be noticed more.


I found something!! It turns out that Plo Konn and Ki-Adi-Mundi had a part in Ep:2 but it was cut!!! see for yourself!!!

http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/ben/askjc20020718.html

slightly off topic: in the original Star Wars, still a great roller-coaster of a flick, didn't Chewbacca's vocalizations sound mostly like a series of farts emitting from someone with serious gastro-intestinal issues?

From what I've heard, the most overrated is Boba Fett and the most underrated is Max Rebo. There you go.

How come I didnt see this thread sooner? I mean I browse the scifi forum like 500 times a day...:bugeye: :confused:

Anyways:

Most Over rated- Yoda. I hate that little :various cuss words:.

Under rated- Mace Windu. Come on a purple light saber! That is so awesome!

Coffee, don't forget that Yoda inspired Weird Al Yankovic's greatest satirical video--that must count for something!

I swear if Jar Jar shows up in Ep. 3 with more than 5 short lines....

Most over-rated: R2D2, all he does is drive around making telephone noises. He looks like a little talking garbage can. He's still cool though =P

On a side note, I hope someone in Ep3 gets to wield another double light saber like Maul did in ep.1

yeah R2D2, and nobody told us the little bastard could fly!!!

Cory,

Yeah, that guy is cool. But the blue guy is, pardon my french (but I am the moderator so f*ck off!) fucking stupid! He's...just...stupid...he's a dumbass, he should be a trash collector on Anoat rather than a frickin jedi...he gets shot by JANGO!! And then he FALLS and doesn't SURVIVE presumably...

I'd like to bring to attention the incredible awesomeness of one Admiral Piett. This guy is fricken awesome. I mean, just look at him!

http://northern-dreams.com/cards/admiralpiett.jpg

He's the only imperial officer in two films, he doesn't get killed by Darth Vader, and he's probably the best actor out of all the imperial officers, and all of the tertiary star wars characters (even though I'd like to point out that not one of the actors in any of the original films who played minor roles were less than outstanding, for extras, I mean). This guy rules. He even has a cult website. Even though it isn't very good. And it's pretty nerdy.

Speaking of imperial stupidity....

How dumb was Grand Moff Tarkin to actually fire the Death Star at Yavin 4 when they had sensors and cannons protecting the vent??? I mean, even Vader knew that there were rebels in side that canyon/canal thingie.
__________________________________________________ __
"Okay, you're Grand Moff Tarkin and you're Boba Fett"
"Why do I have to be Grand Moff Tarkin?"
"Then, you're Boba Fett and he's Grand Moff Tarkin."
"I don't want to be Grand Moff Tarkin!!"
"Fine, you're both Kiss dolls!!!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Where are the Cheetohs??"
"In the cupboard!!"
"Where's the Mountain Dew??"
"In the fridge!!!"
"Can I have a Mountain Dew?"
"Yes, now shut up!!"
"Does anyone want a Mountain Dew??"
"NO!!!!"

I don't get it:confused:

you can ignore those last two "signatures"!!!:D :D

The first quote is from a movie called Cant Hardly Wait

The second is a hidden ending from the PS2 game Summoners.... damn Im good.

For everyone talking about the sword fighting style in starwars.

They actually had all the actors train in kendo, which was the Japanease style of sword fighting. All the moves they do are pretty close to the stuff you'll see at a typical kendo match, excluding when they fight 2 people at a time or use a weird lightsaber.

And that stance they use, that isn't protecting their vital organs, is much less vulnerable than you think :)

very cool. I didn't know that :cool:

So if I met the actor that played yoda :bugeye: in real life, he could kick my ass....ahhhh.

Rumor has it there's an awesome swordfight scene in The Matrix: Reloaded. Less than 5 months!!! ahh!!

Xelios you are correct. I have confirmed this. If you watch The Matrix: Reloaded trailer a few times you can clearly see a scene where Morpheus is holding a sword and standing in the middle of what looks like a highway.

When doth this movieth cometh out?

Last time I heard it would be in the first quarter of 2003 and the third movie will come out six months later.

Awesome. I have no doubt that the movie will be cool and fun, but will it actually be good, and be as much of a pop-culture phenomena as the last? Curious.....

I hate Luke...he's such a...a...goody goody- I like him when he temporarily goes to the dark side and wears black leather *merow* ^.~

The one I would of liked to see more of is Master poof of the Jedi counsil- I mean he's the best mind bender out there- he should like confuse some bad guys and such. I would have said vader but then episode one and two came out, yes! :D

I happen to think that Luke is pretty cool--I mean, his character is the ultimate hero-from-nothing that we can all aspire to. Although he is a goody two shoes, he still kicks major ass.

That's what makes him the goodie-goodie. It is a very cliche, rags-and-speedsters-to-Jedi-and-saving-the-galaxy-from-oppresion role. I've always preferred the storylines when Luke is just a minor character. If you want good characters, look at people like Kyle Katarn or some of the comic book characters or the Jedi counsel members. Some of their stories are pretty interesting. Like Plo Koon's.:D :D

Northwind: "Remember that Jedi Knight in the big battle with the green skin and tendrils for hair?

According to the packaging for his action figure, his name is...

...wait for it...

KIT FISTER!

"What can I do for you today, Master Fister?"


hoohooheeheehahahahahaha...now THAT'S underrated!"

I just wanted to correct you his name is Kit Fisto not Fister.:) ;)


JadedSapphire
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I hate Luke...he's such a...a...goody goody- I like him when he temporarily goes to the dark side and wears black leather *merow* ^.~

The one I would of liked to see more of is Master poof of the Jedi counsil- I mean he's the best mind bender out there- he should like confuse some bad guys and such. I would have said vader but then episode one and two came out, yes!



I totally agree with you JadedSapphire mentioning the Jedi Council. I really would have like to see the other members give insight to the discussions we see in Episodes 1 and 2. Not just Yoda, Ki-Adi-Mundi, and Mace Windu. Nothing against these 3 but I would really like to hear Plo Koon speak because of his breath mask he has to wear.

Cory
203 posts
Underrated: Darth Mauhl, I mean he got it bad because he was in a crap movie but dude was GANGSTER! Cool make-up, he actually looked scary, he's more mobile then Vader (not saying he can even be compared but...) I mean compare lightabre battles from now to then, way more action-packed now. I understand what Cactus and Lesion are saying when it comes to the sword fights being a little uhhhhh, dramatic but I agree with Cactus, I mean c'mon! They're LIGHTSABRES! And I thought the Phantom Menace dual was breath-taking. Plus he killed Qui-Gon. So basically I think Darth Mauhl got the shit end of the stick cuz he was in The Phantom Menace but I think he made the movie watchable.

Over rated? Maybe Count Dooku? What did ya'll think of him?



I totally agree with you Cory. Count Dooku was over rated. Plus he looks totally stupid when he uses the Force Push( he pretty much puts his whole body into it. If he's so strong in the force he should only have to use his hand. I also hate it when he taunts Obi-Wan "Surely you can do better".

Moderator Edit: Your posts were merged.

R2-D2. He is the little droid that could by delivering important messages and constantly saving the Skywalkers hides! He keeps their ships running, their secret plans safe, and is always willing to go into harms way when needed. He's the unsung hero of the entire Saga. So can we get a big BEEP! in the house for our buddy, our pal, our favorite astromech droid, R2-D2! :D

Hey, here's a thought.

If C3PO is always following R2 around, does that mean that R2 is the man in the relationship? I mean 3PO is pretty wussy, but that could be attributed to the fact that he is like 3 feet taller than R2 and always gets hit by blaster fire and such.

Underrated: jar jar bink...

he is underrated, because he is much worse than most people say...

Originally posted by UberDragon
Hey, here's a thought.

If C3PO is always following R2 around, does that mean that R2 is the man in the relationship? I mean 3PO is pretty wussy, but that could be attributed to the fact that he is like 3 feet taller than R2 and always gets hit by blaster fire and such.

That's kind of sexist in a way. Because you're assuming A) women follow men around and B) are weaker than men. I never really assigned genders to these characters. I always thought 3P0 was supposed to be a know it all bigmouthed chicken little. While R2 was the spunky one who prefered to act instead of standing around talking about it. They are oposites and it helps create tension and comdey between them.

Overrated: C3PO and R2D2. All they do is whine and get shot, respectively.

Underrated: Boba Fett. He should have been a main character from the beginning.

calm down, BWB

It was something my people like to call a joke. Let's spell it out children: J-O-K-E

If i offended anyone, i'm sorry

Settle down and save it for the Ethics section.

I think the admiral lobster guy(can't remember his name, if they gave it) from the original films was underrated and should have had a bigger part.
*edit*
Found him. Admiral Ackbar's his name.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/admiralackbar/index.html