UberDragon
11-13-02, 10:25 PM
Who would win in a fight between a Jedi (any will do) and Spider-Man??? This thread extends from a conversation we had my lunch table a couple days ago.
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View Full Version : Who would win?? UberDragon 11-13-02, 10:25 PM Who would win in a fight between a Jedi (any will do) and Spider-Man??? This thread extends from a conversation we had my lunch table a couple days ago. SoLiDUS 11-14-02, 01:47 AM Jedi. Use the forks... err, force! :eek: Neutrino_Albatross 11-14-02, 08:59 AM I dont think its much of a question spider man wouldnt have a chance in hell against a jedi. goofyfish 11-14-02, 09:21 AM ( *** uh oh, spider sense is tingling *** ) wwwhhhhiiIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOMMMMMMmmmmm! One bisected spidey. %BlueSoulRobot% 11-14-02, 09:24 AM As much as Spiderman rules, I'd have to say the Jedi! Sucks to old Spidey, but it's obvious :D lordjin 11-14-02, 01:03 PM I think a jedi would have his hands full with Spider Man. Yeah, the jedi is acrobatic and shit, but Spiderman is probably faster and a lot stronger. What? The jedi can move objects with his mind? Again, spidey could dodge anything the jedi threw at him with his spider sense/speed. If spider man got in close, he could break the Jedi's neck quite easily. Thor 11-14-02, 01:23 PM Spidy all the way!!! He'll be able to kick Jedi butt (or whatever they have there!!!) Neutrino_Albatross 11-14-02, 02:15 PM Spider man punches. Jedi blocks with lightsaber.:eek: Walker 11-14-02, 03:27 PM your mom. she's one tough broad. %BlueSoulRobot% 11-14-02, 10:02 PM A well-trained Jedi knight could beat Spidy any day! (sorry spiderman, sorry sorry sorry :D ) I remember in Episode one (*shudder!!*) how Qin Jo-whatchamacallit could do this mind trick by waving his hand. What if a Jedi did that to Spiderman, and made him think he was a rabbit? :eek: And a Jedi has a lightsabre, just like Neutrino said! One "wooooomsshh" (or however it goes), and you've got Spiderbits! :eek: http://home.attbi.com/~anmaray/dancing_spiderman.gif hehe CounslerCoffee 11-14-02, 11:47 PM Heres how I see it happening: Spider Man: Come on you stupid Jedi *Shoots some web and tries to pull the lightsaber away from Jedi* *The lightsaber dicinagrates the web* Next thing ya know Spidey is cut in half. Thor 11-15-02, 09:54 AM But wouldn't the Jedi want to fight his/her worthy adversary on equal grounds and throw down the lightsabre!!! Spidy will win that way!! Neutrino_Albatross 11-15-02, 10:48 AM But wouldn't the Jedi want to fight his/her worthy adversary on equal grounds and throw down the lightsabre!!! Ummmm... No. Thor 11-15-02, 12:11 PM Now thats just not right!!! chewienieto 01-18-03, 12:18 AM I think even without the lightsaber, spidey is in deep problems. The jedi can trick spidey´s mind; or in a hand.to-hand fight: what does spider man has: a nice costume? and a jedi: The power of the force and the abillity to use it in so many ways. As I just said SIPEY IS IN A BIG TROUBLE Coldrake 01-18-03, 09:34 AM Either one of them would get their butt kicked by the Predator. Unless of course superhero Danny Glover was on the scene. UberDragon 01-20-03, 01:02 PM hahahaha :p Good point! Does anyone know when Aliens vs. Predator is coming out?? (the movie) reformedtopunk 01-20-03, 08:42 PM spidey rules. he's just as acrobatic, can stick to walls (which a jedi CAN'T do), and has the spidey sense, which is way more useful than the force. Pollux V 01-20-03, 08:45 PM Get Darth Vader in their and grip the sucker to death. If that doesn't work hack off his hands and then claim that you are his father:p CounslerCoffee 01-20-03, 09:03 PM Darth Vader... Hmmm. Wouldnt Spider Mans spidey sense pick up on that? Oh and nice avatar... Is that the head of an Akkadian ruler? Neutrino_Albatross 01-20-03, 10:29 PM IMO Spiderman is the just about the weakest superhero ever created. His powers are the ability climb wall, his "spidey sense" and shooting string. A jedi has a light sabre, can move objects with mind, can equal or beat spideys agility, can see the future and can control minds. A jedi seems to be completely invincible to anybody except another jedi, or these weird creatures from the books that i havent read and the only reason i know about them is from the roleplaying game. (damn they're a bugger to fight) Alien Mastermind 01-27-03, 06:40 PM LMAO!!! Man, %BlueSoulRobot%, I just can't stop laughing at that animated pic you posted. Yeah of course spidey would get his acrobatic butt kicked, but as Thor said, if they would fight as equals, spidey would rule! fry1tonight 01-28-03, 03:45 PM Hmmmmmmm Well seeing as spiderman is geneticaly modified and by a radioctive spider at that, who is to say that his inv=creased nuroligical abilities dont have the benefit of being impervious to mind control ? as you all know not all creatures can be controlled by the jedi mind meld, so that one will just have to call a draw, The jedi ability to see the future, well seeing as most of them apear to have been killed off they didnt do too good a job of that did they, speed i would put them on a par, as for walking on ceilings well we will just have to hope they aint fighting on one. As the spider sence is a reflex action this im afraid to say should give the webslinger an advantage, i never seen a jedi look into the future during a fight, reflexes and instinct would play a big part. My money is on the guy in the tights. Neutrino_Albatross 01-28-03, 10:59 PM i never seen a jedi look into the future during a fight You do every time they block a laser shot. Spidey's agility wont help him at all becasue the jedi can just push him the the floor with the force and kill him easily. He could also use force choke to instantly kill him (if he wants to pick up a darkside point). fry1tonight 01-29-03, 04:26 PM Ok then what happend to all the Jedi then hmmm where did they all go ? did they just die of boredom ???????? Neutrino_Albatross 01-29-03, 04:29 PM Killed by bad jedi. Like i said, nobody seems to be able to kill a jedi except another jedi.:D Qiothus II 01-29-03, 05:54 PM Jedi would masacre Spidey. Don't get me wrong, Spiderman is the nit, but come on. Darth Vader would just do his choking thing while Spidey is on the wall and then just step on him...bye-bye little spider. Jolly Rodger 01-29-03, 05:57 PM the jedi win in a fight against spiderman Decoy 01-31-03, 09:45 PM I'm affraid I have to agree... A Jedi would easily defeat Spiderman, depending of who is the Jedi curs... Put Obi-Wan in against Spidey, and there wouldn't be a fight at all (2 good guys who both prefer to talk before fight). But put Palpatine in front of P.Parker aka Spidey, Spikey would bite the dust, and Palpy would have enough time to get back to the studios to finish starring in Star Wars Episode 3 ;-D I mean, Lightning? Deadly Sight? Force Surge? Destruction Ball? K, sorry, used to play Jedi Knight on MSN Gaming zone... But to control the force is to control ones environment, which means in human term, that Pal would just pull Spidey towards him (much like Darth Vader grips practicly everybody he sees) and finish him off while spidey helplessly floats in the air grasping for.....more air ;-D Walker 02-05-03, 02:02 AM GUMBI SMASH!!! Vertigoll 02-05-03, 07:12 PM Spider-Man has always been the man, he could think up a solution to fightin' a Jedi. You got to remember, he is no all bulk and beans (Or whatever) he's got wits too. He created his web blasters on his own (contray to the movie), he could build something or get one of his lab pals to help him. He is friends with all of those scientists. And I mean, c'mon, Jedi die all the time, Spidey hasn't died yet! And he's been around much longer. Vertigoll 08-29-04, 11:34 PM Bump!!! Rappaccini 08-30-04, 12:12 AM This really depends on which Jedi we're talking about... onewiththeuniverse 08-30-04, 03:15 AM Yoda Rules This really depends on which Jedi we're talking about...Yoda Rules shadarlocoth 08-30-04, 09:24 AM jedi all the way lets run down what powers jedi have well most of them force jump- makes them able to jump 20-100 feet into the air. force speed - movment rate of about 80% faster then normal. force pull - pull a target or item to the user to get them in saber range or use it with the force jump to pull the target into the air 40-100 feet force push - smash the target into a wall or push them or a object comming at you away. force sence - the abilty to see into the near future to see what is going to happen thats how they block blaster bolts. light saber block - used deflet or cut incoming threats uses force sence force heal - heals the jedi's body in a short amount of time only good on light damages force meditation - heals larger wounds and broken bones over a longer time force lighting - shoots electrity out of the jedi's fingers frying targets force storm - makes 150 mile a hour winds to from a small tornado to hold a target in the air or to smash them into wall or objects into said target. saber toss - toss a light saber and use the force to direct it as a cutting weapon froce choke - choke's the target to death force crush - crushes the targets bones / body with the force force levitation - lets the jedi flot in the air for a short amount of time or use it as a platform to jump higher force tap - drains the life force from a target and gives it to the sith/jedi force death - does masive damage to the mind of the target in most people killing them jedi mind trick - tricks the weak minded into doing things for you or making you less noticable to others. Force Armor - covers the jedi with force energy deflecting most damage that would be delt to him or her. free bonds - uses the force to free the jedi from bondage. force trance - used for healing and for seeing into the future mind wipe - wipe the targets mind to a blank slate. mind control - control a target like a pupit. force rage - jedi goes onto a rage moving faster and taking half damage and doing twice the damage at a cost of his life. pain control - suppresses pain letting the jedi fight with mastive damage Remove fatigue - removes fatigue letting the jedi fight longer sence life - lets the jedi sence living things near him force web - draws energy from the living things around him stun resist - uses the force to buffer impacts aginst him maginfy sences - lets the jedi by using the force magnify his sences to a hightend level. jedi strength - gives the jedi more strength by using the force to infuse his muscles force telekenisses - lets the jedi lift objects up to 110 metric tons by using the force inflitct pain - makes the target feel pain in the way the jedi wants ie. burning/cuts/beatings/ being eaten Waves of darkenss - puts out energy making a blast wave nocking groups of targets to the ground or sending them flying. dim other sences - make targets unable to hear/see/feel things around him, its a advanced form of mind trick force clone - lets the jedi make a copy of him self made out of pure force energy fighting with half the skill of the original elemental control - uses the force to bring ambent heat to a point or remove that heat. So jedi can bring all the heat from a area to one point to make light or fire. or he can move all the heat away from water and make it freeze. this is ranged ablitly but the closer the target the easer it is. this is not all the jedi ablitys just the ones that are most likly usefull to a fight with spider man. spider man ablitys web - lets him make spider webs of diffent sapes and types spider sence - lets him now if danger is comming spider reflexes - lets him move with faster reaction time's spider strength - lets him lift large objects wall crawl - lets him crawl on walls as you can see the jedi has move things going for him then spider man not to mention the fact that spider man is always getting hit by some body and if a jedi connects once with the saber its over. Ste_harris 08-30-04, 09:49 AM I've gotta go with spider-man, his spider sense is like precognition, so no matter how many times the jedi swings that light sabre he's only going to cut through air, and even if he was 'Force lifted' he would shoot not one but two web lines at the jedi one aimed for the eyes the other to pull the jedi's feet from under them. not to mention the fact that spider man is always getting hit by some body This is not the case, spidey is a rational fighter, he's smart first strong second, when he knows an opponent is that strong (carrying a light sabre) he wouldn't allow himself to be hit, he would keep his distance and dodge everything thrown at him. All spidey would need would be a fration of a second, and he could punch the head off of the jedi's body, dont forget he always pulls his punches, as he's a good guy and doesn't want to hurt anyone (well maybe the odd few) Imho over the years spidey has fought and beaten stronger/smarter opponents so i doubt a jedi would be any different. And yes Marvel fan boy is me :D Ste_harris 08-30-04, 09:53 AM IMO Spiderman is the just about the weakest superhero ever created. His powers are the ability climb wall, his "spidey sense" and shooting string. Thats sacrilege, 'Is he strong listen bub he's got radioactive blood!' shadarlocoth 08-30-04, 10:27 AM hummm jedi see's spider man and then uses force crush on his legs arms and head. humm end of spider man. or how about uses force crush on his heart. jedi dont have to use a saber to kill. spider shoots web at him he force pusses the web off target. or jedi jumps into the air above spide and force pushes him into the ground? or uses choke to hold him in the air then though his saber at him to cut him in half. or rost him with lightning wile he is in the air? jedi picks up a tanker truck and chucks it at spider man. spider man sences this and starts to jump out of the way. jedi force grips him and holds him in place. tanker hits him and explodes. jedi uses dim sence on him and now spider man can't see or hear or feel. jedi walks up and cuts him down. jedi uses death touch on him destorying his mind. jedi walks off. spider man shoots webbing at him jedi uses force pull on the webing to pull spider man to him. remember jedi can see whats going to happen before it does and has force speed. so that kind of makes sidermans sences useless as well as the jedi's so the jedi will have to make it so he can't dodge pick him up in the air and smash him with somehing. or use the force to crush/ disable the web shooters. Giving the jedi more of a edge. sith would use this more then jedi but put the public in danger to force spider man to try to save them then use the force to hold him in place or life tap him to death. its not that the jedi is more powerfull which he is but the ways spider man can attack the jedi are limited and easly countered by a trained jedi. If i was the jedi fighting him I would walk up act all nice then use the force to raise the temp of the air in his lungs to 200 deg. + cooking him from the inside out. How do you fight back when your lungs are on fire? Ste_harris 08-30-04, 01:44 PM Can i ask where you've gleamed all this information on the strength, speed and fighting skills of said arachno-guy? As it seems uninformed to me. Basically a jedi is someone with mastery of psionics and a sword that can melt steel or whatever. If all jedi's are that powerful, how come they all got wiped out? Whereas Spider-Man, someone who has fought the Hulk as in the incredible, indestructable hulk, to a standstill, is still alive and kicking? Stretching their abilities me thinks you are Really though no matter what scenario i post where Spider-Man would be the victor i'm sure that a Jedi death touch or whatever would come into play and the table would be turned, so i'm going to say that the outcome depends on who the author of the fight favours. Rappaccini 08-30-04, 02:50 PM Against a Jedi Master or a Sith Lord, Spider Man would probably go down swinging. Any normal Knight, though, would hardly be a match for the Spidey. Arditezza 08-30-04, 02:57 PM Agreed. One web and a tug and a Jedi Knight could be catapulted into the side of a building faster than he could weave through the web that makes up Spidey's mind. Spiderman is no dummy, and has a good grasp of physics and science. Who knows what he could really do. shadarlocoth 08-31-04, 02:44 PM look up jedi master power list from the RPG game there is a full list of there powers there. Gifted 08-31-04, 04:17 PM I'd agree that it depends on who it is. Luke? Darth Vader? Palpitine? Yoda? Jedi, hands down. For the lower ranks, it would depend o nthe individual much more. If they dismiss Spiderman, or underestimate him, they'd get their arses handed to them. If they keep their head though, the outcome is suddenly much less predictable. I'd say the same about Spider-Man. If he loses his head, he'll get teh crap beat out of him. A few things: A lot of people here don't seem to realize that there is not just the movies that are being drawn on for the Star Wars side of this. There's enough books to make a small library(especially if you include fan fiction), and the previously mentioned RPS. The RPS utilizes a standardized list of powers so you can do the dice rolls. While it tries to be comprehensive, don't limit yourself. Has Spider-Man ever gone up against someone with psychic-like powers, like the Force? Ste_harris 08-31-04, 05:55 PM look up jedi master power list from the RPG game there is a full list of there powers there. I guessed that they were taken from a game, and i understand that they count as part of the Jedi mythos, but i was asking where you had gotten your information on Spider-Man... Has Spider-Man ever gone up against someone with psychic-like powers, like the Force? Well since he's been around for the past 40+ years, and the marvel universe is home to all variety of nutters with powers and a menagerie of mutants, i can say that he's more than likely fought someone with force like powers, just not recently or that i can remember. I've been looking into this, and im seeing a lot of similarities between Luke Skywalker and Spider-Man, they both have a type of precognition (The Force/Spider sense) and their origins are very similar. Both were raised by aunt and uncle not knowing the truth about their parents till much later on. Both turned to a heroic life of responsibility due to the death(s) of the people/person that raised them. Strange isn't it. Really the question should be revised, which Jedi? which version of Spider-Man? For a while Spider-Man was granted near limitless power(Captain universe), and has had the aid of an alien symbyiote costume(which evolved into venom) and so on and so on, i'm not even going to mention the clones. Nasor 08-31-04, 06:51 PM I don’t think that the mind tricks would work on spidy. Even if we assume that spidy’s mutation didn’t make him immune to mind tricks (remember, a lot of species seem to be immune to them) I don’t think that a jedi can use a mind trick on someone in the middle of a fight. If they could, then why didn’t Obi-wan use them on Jengo Fet in Attack of the Clones? It seems more like the sort of thing that you use to confuse/trick someone who only has a casual interest in you and hasn’t already decided to try to kill you. I think that spidy could cause a lot of trouble for a jedi. He’s definitely a lot stronger and faster than a jedi – like someone else said, he could probably snap most jedi in two if he actually got in close enough, and with his speed and reflexes it seems unlikely that a jedi would be able to hit him with a lightsaber. On the other hand, a lightsaber would probably be pretty effective for keeping spidy at bay; even he would probably think twice about closing with someone who was swinging around 5 feet of glowing death. I think in the end it would all come down to whether or not spidy could tie a jedi up in his web. The jedi might be able to bat it out of the way with his lightsaber or deflect it with force powers. Maybe spidy could fire some kind of a ‘wide area’ web that was too large for the jedi to easily block with a lightsaber. It would certainly be an interesting fight to see, though. |