This is a spin off from the thread "things a sci former will never say"

and i said that i would never say, i will not have any more piercings, and steve100 said that he finds lip piercings revolting?

i unerstand that its his point of view, but many people i know love them, (including me) so what is it with piercings that people find so nasty?

many cultures in the world have nose piercings, would the same people be saying, they find that revolting?

isn't it up to the person who is being pierced where they are pierced, yes its true i have lots of piercings, some i like more than others, for obvious reasons i love my "Horizontal Clitoral Hood" piercing, ;)(Now some of you are saying, more information than was required but tough) :D

so what is it with piercings that you all hate so much?

if it was done for a religous thing, you wouldnt be saying anything against it.

this is what i am having done next:

http://z.hubpages.com/u/105463_f496.jpg


i put the, they are for troubled people option because someone once said that to me, when they saw me with all of mine in my face and ears!!

My home made prince Albert is giving me grief.

I don't think that having pain when I don't need it is something I'd relish doing to myself. I'd think that if something is painful then that is your body telling you there's a problem and to stop whatever you are doing to ease the pain. Pain is meant to prevent your body from experiencing undo harm to itself. It is a warning that we all should heed whenever pain happens to us. Then there are those that enjoy pain and to them this type of thing is just fine. But that's their trip, not mine! ;)

The pain is very transitory, although there are some that do for the pain.
In my case it was as painful as pulling out a hair.

Out of curiosity, what happens when you encounter magnets ?

And there's the snagging factor to consider. When I was playing nude cane toad croquet, I got the prince Albert stuck in a hoop which in itself was O.K until my pissed mate hit a full drive which I blocked inadvertently.

Surgical (stainless) steel is usually non-magnetic.
Alternatively, it does tend to work as a "chick magnet", when women find out they get very interested.
(Which is not why I did it).

Out of curiosity, what happens when you encounter magnets ?

Standing stark naked at airport security with nothing but my Prince albert and a aubergine sized ( and coloured) haemorrhoid for cover is mildly amusing.

Surgical (stainless) steel is usually non-magnetic.
Alternatively, it does tend to work as a "chick magnet", when women find out they get very interested.
(Which is not why I did it).

why did you it? and i have to wonder, would people be complaining if they saw an asian woman with a nose piercing?

i did mine for differant reasons, for example, my "Horizontal Clitoral Hood" i did because "x" marks the spot ;)

my ears because everyone else had them, my lip because it looks sexy, my eyes brows because i was bored one day, my nose because i like it, my tounge because a freind dared me, my nipples because it adds sensitivity, and my nape when i get it done because it looks good!!

my eyes brows because i was bored one day

This is why many people get it done as well. They really don't have anything to do with themselves so they inflict pain unto themselves. I'd rather read a good book, go fishing or just walk around but never would I think of causing pain to myself, but that's just me. ;)

I don't think that having pain when I don't need it is something I'd relish doing to myself. I'd think that if something is painful then that is your body telling you there's a problem and to stop whatever you are doing to ease the pain. Pain is meant to prevent your body from experiencing undo harm to itself. It is a warning that we all should heed whenever pain happens to us. Then there are those that enjoy pain and to them this type of thing is just fine. But that's their trip, not mine! ;)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH FUCK

It's NOT, I repeat NOT, about wanting to hurt yourself goddammit! Please throw out that self mutilation shit right now.

It's purely about adorning your body, not wanting to damage it. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??

I understand , but would rather not cause pain to myself as you seem to like doing, that is all. ;)

why did you it?
Because I wanted to.
In both cases I thought it was a good idea, gave myself a few months to really consider it and then had it done.
Never regretted it.
It's only one ear and one nipple after all.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH FUCK

It's NOT, I repeat NOT, about wanting to hurt yourself goddammit! Please throw out that self mutilation shit right now.

It's purely about adorning your body, not wanting to damage it. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??

some people dont want to understand VI, they would rather sit there and think we are damaged people with lots on our minds, or we are EMO.

I've had more piercings than I care to remember. I've had a knife through my hand, nails in my feet, fish hooks, spikes and venom spines in my fingers. I've had deep punctures from dogs, cats ferrets, even parrots, all kinds of thorns, splinters and insect stings.
I don't need any more.

Because I wanted to.
In both cases I thought it was a good idea, gave myself a few months to really consider it and then had it done.
Never regretted it.
It's only one ear and one nipple after all.

you agve yourself 3 months to think about having you ear done?

damn i walk past a tattoo parlour and decide "yeah why not, lets go and have a look" and never regretted any of them

some people dont want to understand VI, they would rather sit there and think we are damaged people with lots on our minds, or we are EMO.

I gotta conclude that you're right. People don't like to acknowledge that their view on the world may actually be a pile of manure.


I understand , but would rather not cause pain to myself as you seem to like doing, that is all.

*jumps on your head repeatedly then rapes the remains* :D:D

There, did that fulfil your stereotype?

you agve yourself 3 months to think about having you ear done?
At the time it was not quite as prevalent as it is today... I'm talking about more than 30 years ago.;)


damn i walk past a tattoo parlour and decide "yeah why not, lets go and have a look" and never regretted any of them
And I gave each of my tats equal consideration, although one took much longer 'cos I wanted to make sure the translation was 100% correct.

I've had more piercings than I care to remember. I've had a knife through my hand, nails in my feet, fish hooks, spikes and venom spines in my fingers. I've had deep punctures from dogs, cats ferrets, even parrots, all kinds of thorns, splinters and insect stings.
I don't need any more.

Holy shit mate. like a regular fucking steve Irwin..without the outragous TV aspect.

At the time it was not quite as prevalent as it is today... I'm talking about more than 30 years ago.;)


And I gave each of my tats equal consideration, although one took much longer 'cos I wanted to make sure the translation was 100% correct.

most of my tattoos did have cincieration i just saw a few tattoos that i desperatly wanted and had them done.

My welsh dragon being the lastest which i had done in july

Holy shit mate. like a regular fucking steve Irwin..without the outragous TV aspect.

I'm quite attracted at the moment to the idea of upsetting Visceral and letting her have a crack at me with a sharpened bone ( only for like a minute or two though).

My welsh dragon being the lastest which i had done in july

What do your kids think of the dragon? " Aw, that's just Mum!"

What do your kids think of the dragon? " Aw, that's just Mum!"

:roflmao:

What do your kids think of the dragon? " Aw, that's just Mum!"

they think its brilliant actually, its because of my daughter i ahd it done, she has always wanted me to have a welsh dragon!

........ so what is it with piercings that people find so nasty?


Why should any one thing appeal to "everybody"?

Too each their own, I personally do not have any piercings or tattoos but I also think IMO that adorning your body with such things as tattoos and body piercings regardless of how much one likes it is actually distasteful and shows lack of “something” (possibly emotional or psychological issues.. different culture, no culture, social or economical standing education or lack of education but not exactly sure what it is)

For me people that have them fall into one of three categories,

1. They need attention from others even if it is negative attention.
2. They try fitting into a fad therefore they are followers (tribal art tattoos are so yesterday, unless you’re stuck with one)
3. They simply don’t care what others think or feel about them not to mention how they appear therefore they do what they want in regards to appearance although they don’t seem to realize how bad they look.

If one was to really notice the majority of people that have body piercings and tattoos they seem to fit into a sub culture that goes hand in hand with artists, musician’s, and blue collar workers. You don’t see many lawyers, doctors or professionals with lots of tattoos or body piercings. Now before everyone jumps down my throat about “My Opinion” I don’t think less of a person who has them I just think they are different, and we are all different in some way. I guess someone could use the same argument the same three categories in reverse for me not having tattoos or body piercings.

Too each their own, I personally do not have any piercings or tattoos but I also think IMO that adorning your body with such things as tattoos and body piercings regardless of how much one likes it is actually distasteful and shows lack of “something” (possibly emotional or psychological issues.. different culture, no culture, social or economical standing education or lack of education but not exactly sure what it is)

For me people that have them fall into one of three categories,

1. They need attention from others even if it is negative attention.
2. They try fitting into a fad therefore they are followers (tribal art tattoos are so yesterday, unless you’re stuck with one)
3. They simply don’t care what others think or feel about them not to mention how they appear therefore they do what they want in regards to appearance although they don’t seem to realize how bad they look.

If one was to really notice the majority of people that have body piercings and tattoos they seem to fit into a sub culture that goes hand in hand with artists, musician’s, and blue collar workers. You don’t see many lawyers, doctors or professionals with lots of tattoos or body piercings. Now before everyone jumps down my throat about “My Opinion” I don’t think less of a person who has them I just think they are different, and we are all different in some way. I guess someone could use the same argument the same three categories in reverse for me not having tattoos or body piercings.

i rest my case, here is a prime example of what people seem to think people with piercings and tattoos are lacking in somthing,

I don’t think less of a person who has them
Is this not contradicted by your statement

it is actually distasteful and shows lack of “something”
:shrug:
You don't think less of us, but consider we "lack something"?

Live and let live, I personally have my ears pierced but that's about all I would ever pierce. A couple of my friends are enthusiasts though, one of them has (I think) about 5 or 6 piercings per ear, a belly piercing and two (I didn't know more than one was ever done till she did it) tongue piercings.

http://www.bmezine.com/ritual/A10607/cltthesu.html

The act of changing ones body for pleasure be it aesthetic or spiritual or ritual should be embraced by our society.


Modifiers (on average) seek to improve their body, either aesthetically, spiritually, or physically. There are of course, those who pierce, brand, or tattoo to create a memory, or to remember that point in their life, and there are people who get pierced due to peer pressure, "everyone else has their ears pierced..."


People have been modifying their bodies since they could walk. People will continue to modify their bodies, either with needles or knifes or genetics and DNA. It is human nature to want to explore, so to explore our bodies, pushing the envelope (and inventing new and improved envelopes) of the physical self is inevitable. It is a basic creative outlet for the mind.

Personally I don't care for nose, brow, lip, tongue piercings. It is not something I would get done myself, but to each his own.

I think that it is okay for the teenagers but I find when you get older and have all that it just looks strange.

I don't find lip piercings revolting.
I just don't like them that much.

Too each their own, I personally do not have any piercings or tattoos but I also think IMO that adorning your body with such things as tattoos and body piercings regardless of how much one likes it is actually distasteful and shows lack of “something” (possibly emotional or psychological issues.. different culture, no culture, social or economical standing education or lack of education but not exactly sure what it is)

For me people that have them fall into one of three categories,

1. They need attention from others even if it is negative attention.
2. They try fitting into a fad therefore they are followers (tribal art tattoos are so yesterday, unless you’re stuck with one)
3. They simply don’t care what others think or feel about them not to mention how they appear therefore they do what they want in regards to appearance although they don’t seem to realize how bad they look.

If one was to really notice the majority of people that have body piercings and tattoos they seem to fit into a sub culture that goes hand in hand with artists, musician’s, and blue collar workers. You don’t see many lawyers, doctors or professionals with lots of tattoos or body piercings. Now before everyone jumps down my throat about “My Opinion” I don’t think less of a person who has them I just think they are different, and we are all different in some way. I guess someone could use the same argument the same three categories in reverse for me not having tattoos or body piercings.

Please elaborate on how injecting your skin with ink or wearing metal in your face means you're psychologically wanting.

My mate works in a bank, he has 2 tattoos, though they are hidden by his sleeves while at work. Professional enough for you?



1. They need attention from others even if it is negative attention.
2. They try fitting into a fad therefore they are followers (tribal art tattoos are so yesterday, unless you’re stuck with one)
3. They simply don’t care what others think or feel about them not to mention how they appear therefore they do what they want in regards to appearance although they don’t seem to realize how bad they look.

You left out 'they think that tattoos look good.'

They seem to be more appropriate on cannibals and carnival freaks.

Come on, a girl I know has a quite tasteful one on the underside of her arm (a butterfly). She keeps it covered at work. Is she really akin to a cannibal or freak, or a disturbed attention seeker?

Yes.

If she's a disturbed attention seeker, why does she keep it covered at work? If she wanted attention she wouldn't be keeping it to herself.

OK then, just disturbed.

WHY?

For the last time. IT'S NOT ABOUT PAIN, SELF HATRED, OR WANTING TO HURT YOURSELF. It's about decorating your body. Anyone who does it because they use it as a form of 'self harm' (and it would be a pretty shitty form of self harm. All the adrenaline makes them close to painless, if not entirely painless. ) is doing it for the wrong reason and needs help.

It's about decorating your body.

Well, I wear clothes that I like that tell everyone who I am and what I'm about. Then I wear jewelry at times, watches, rings , bracelets and necklaces that fit the mood I'm in when I go out. I enjoy being "different" as you do however I just do it without having to worry about infections, pain and discomfort. I can also change my wardrobe from time to time if I want to update the way I look. :)

I enjoy being "different" as you do however I just do it without having to worry about infections, pain and discomfort.

True. Unhealed piercings are annoying, but once they're healed, they're done, nothing to worry about. I think it's worth it.

Is this not contradicted by your statement

:shrug:
You don't think less of us, but consider we "lack something"?

When I say I don’t think less of a person I mean in general of “ME” not being any better or worse than others as we all have our own differences, quirk’s and shortcomings. When I say “they” may be lacking something I thought I was clear I couldn’t pin point it where it was lacking something or having too much or something.

As far as the person working in the bank that has their tattoos covered, why is that? Does society along with many employers say it is not considered acceptable to display such things, if tattoos and piercings are so great and so wonderful why hasn’t the whole of society accepted them?

The first lines in my post said “To each their own” and what you do is your business. I was simply stating my own opinion and you know what they say about opinions. I feel the same way about people into other things that I personally do not participate in such as cross dressing, Smoking, recreational drugs (Except alcohol) and even deviant behavior and fetishes, this DOES NOT make me “better than” them nor does it make them as a person or fellow human less than me just different.

True. Unhealed piercings are annoying, but once they're healed, they're done, nothing to worry about. I think it's worth it.

When you get older I hope that you feel the same way. I have known people that regretted putting tats on when they turned 50 or so.

When you get older I hope that you feel the same way. I have known people that regretted putting tats on when they turned 50 or so.

That's what I am saying for young teenagers piercings and a lot of tatoos looks cool and trendy. It doesn't quite look the same at 50+ I mean is there an age that you will remove these earrings/bars in your nose, lips tongue? Or are you grandchildren going to ask why Grandma has a metal bar in her tongue?

i rest my case, here is a prime example of what people seem to think people with piercings and tattoos are lacking in somthing,

I am sorry if I my comments offended you as that was not my intention. Your response clearly indicates you have received this type of response many times from others, and I wonder if you cannot at least acknowledge that this topic is split down the middle.

Again this is my opinion and nothing more. I even tried to insert that the same could be said about me if the three things were applied to me not having tats or piercings. You can’t please everyone all the time and that is why I am not in politics.

Don’t you yourself have hang ups about others doing things that you yourself don’t understand or like. I can think of many things for myself. I don’t drink coffee as I think it leaves peoples breath smelling bad and I don’t see giving a company 4 buck for something like that. Smoking I cannot understand apart from addiction and even that is not an excuse IMO why people smoke when they know it causes cancer and smells bad and makes their teeth yellow and so on, are they fools, but they are no different from me as a human and I am no better than them.

When you get older I hope that you feel the same way. I have known people that regretted putting tats on when they turned 50 or so.
I got my first at 44, second at 45 (plus nipple piercing), third two years later...

That's what I am saying for young teenagers piercings and a lot of tatoos looks cool and trendy. It doesn't quite look the same at 50+ I mean is there an age that you will remove these earrings/bars in your nose, lips tongue? Or are you grandchildren going to ask why Grandma has a metal bar in her tongue?

Sorry, I really gotta disagree with ya there.

I saw a man in his 50s out with his young son and he looked awesome.He had long black hair with slashes of grey, and his facial piercings: One eyebrow piercing, one rod through the part of the nose between his eyes, 2 vertical labrets, 2 normal labrets under those, 2 cheek piercings and a septum ring.

Wow, what a non-conformist... just like everyone else.

Wow, what a non-conformist... just like everyone else.

Did I call him a non conformist? No. I just said he LOOKED GOOD. If you're going to attack me, at least do it based on something I actually said.

That's what I am saying for young teenagers piercings and a lot of tatoos looks cool and trendy. It doesn't quite look the same at 50+ I mean is there an age that you will remove these earrings/bars in your nose, lips tongue? Or are you grandchildren going to ask why Grandma has a metal bar in her tongue?

When it comes to women they always seem to have to point out they have piercings in private areas. (Again to either fit in or get attention) Will grandma be as proud of her vaginal piercings at the age of 60? Just the thought makes me get shivers up my spine.

As for older men, if they wasn’t to look like a Hells Angel motorcycle bandit at 60, then it will make good stories to tell their grandchildren, “Hey grandpa tell me again about the time you were in jail as those profiling cops thought you were a drug dealing criminal because your decked out tattoos and all that metal in your face”


Wow, what a non-conformist... just like everyone else.

My thoughts exactly, scary we finally agree on something.......

It ain't all about you. When I see such things, they are telling me, "Hi, I'm an idiot with nothing better to spend my money on than looking like a clown.".

then it will make good stories to tell their grandchildren, “Hey grandpa tell me again about the time you were in jail as those profiling cops thought you were a drug dealing criminal because your decked out tattoos and all that metal in your face”
Fortunately over here our cops have the brains to pull you in based on what you've done rather than what you look like.

What? You don't think thes pictures of my wife and I look cool?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c7O6520Twe2A/340x.jpg

http://laurganism.com/wp-images/bodypierce.jpg


Sorry

I had to do it. hehe

I got my first at 44, second at 45 (plus nipple piercing), third two years later...

It really doesn't bother me, I just wouldn't do if I were younger. It is just that tats lose there color and detail as they get older and more "worn in" so to say. That doesn't mean I'm telling anyone else what to do with their own bodies, only what I wouldn't do and why. I have often told other people I meet from time to time that their tats or piercings look good on them so I'm not one to guess what other people think is cool or not for their own bodies...just my own. :cool:

It is just that tats lose there color and detail as they get older and more "worn in" so to say.
Nah, the real problem is that your skin, muscles and looks get worn out!

It ain't all about you. When I see such things, they are telling me, "Hi, I'm an idiot with nothing better to spend my money on than looking like a clown.".

Most women have pierced ears. Including women who do very productive things with their lives. Are they self absorbed idiots?

WHY?

For the last time. IT'S NOT ABOUT PAIN, SELF HATRED, OR WANTING TO HURT YOURSELF. It's about decorating your body. Anyone who does it because they use it as a form of 'self harm' (and it would be a pretty shitty form of self harm. All the adrenaline makes them close to painless, if not entirely painless. ) is doing it for the wrong reason and needs help.
A lot of people I've spoken to have said they got them because they enjoyed the pain.:shrug:
Everyone's different and everyone will have different reasons.
Personally I just find them hideously unattractive.

Can anyone explain how to insert a picture you already have on your computer in your picture files, into a post on this forum page,

What? You don't think thes pictures of my wife and I look cool?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0c7O6520Twe2A/340x.jpg

http://laurganism.com/wp-images/bodypierce.jpg


Sorry

I had to do it. hehe

There are extremes to everything and this porves it

The only problem I have with tattoos and piercings are that they are permanent. It's great if someone thinks they look good now, but fashion is fickle...what it cool today will be dated in 10 years, and laughable in 20. There's also that whole "age-appropriateness" thing. They don't go away unless they are removed, and people change as they get older. 80 year olds with "sleeves" aren't going to look so cool.

In fact my "million dollar idea" is to create tattoo ink that fades out in 5-10 years, or the pigment loses its color when exposed to short bursts of a UV laser or something.

Can anyone explain how to insert a picture you already have on your computer in your picture files, into a post on this forum page,

Go to http://imageshack.us/ and upload your images there, then you will see a "share it" configuration which you will use to post here in the image icon.

Mostly they represent a gruesome injury, how can that be a comfortable look? It says I'm a tough guy/girl, I went through some shit and lived, it's boastful- like getting a deliberate scar so you can show off.

It says I'm a tough guy/girl, I went through some shit and lived, it's boastful- like getting a deliberate scar so you can show off.
I've not heard that one before.
Depends on the onlooker's perception of course, but it's most definitely not seen from that view point by those who get it done.

Mostly they represent a gruesome injury, how can that be a comfortable look? It says I'm a tough guy/girl, I went through some shit and lived, it's boastful- like getting a deliberate scar so you can show off.

I don't need deliberate scars. I got 2 from downhill and I've probably got more serious ones to look forward to.

Why the fuck do you keep saying things like that? I have explained to you already that it is not about wanting to hurt yourself.


A lot of people I've spoken to have said they got them because they enjoyed the pain.

Then as I said, they are doing it for the wrong reasons, and need help.

I find facial piercings disgusting. I think genital and nipple piercings down right odd and would laugh myself right off the bed if a lover showed them to me. I wouldn't even get close to it. Those huge plugs in people ears that give them huge holes <shudder>
How is a person who gets piercing after piercing, tattoo after tattoo, any different than Michael Jackson who had surgery after surgery.
Where is the line between modification and mutilation? When does it become an obsessive sickness? Why does a person always need 'just one more'. Reminds me of a drug addict.
Its repulsive.

I don't need deliberate scars. I got 2 from downhill and I've probably got more serious ones to look forward to.

Why the fuck do you keep saying things like that? I have explained to you already that it is not about wanting to hurt yourself.



Then as I said, they are doing it for the wrong reasons, and need help.

Sure, it's not about actually hurting yourself, or actually gaining life experience, just looking like you have.

Um, Orly? Do you consider ear piercing mutilation? If not, why facial ones?

How does a piercing equate to a mutilation? It's done cleanly with a sterile instrument. It doesn't hurt, unless you have some kind of disorder and can't make adrenaline. You take care of it, so it doesn't get inflamed or infected. Is that honestly the behaviour of a self harmer?

Then as I said, they are doing it for the wrong reasons, and need help.
Everyone's different, who's to decide what the right and wrong reasons are?

Sure, it's not about actually hurting yourself, or actually gaining life experience, just looking like you have.

I don't want to look like I've hurt myself, I want to look AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, hence the coil in my lip and the ring in my septum.

Face it, your opinion does not always fit reality. Stop fucking forcing it on people.

http://http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5046/20piercing987722109b3eqq7.jpg
http://www.wriststyle.com/images/face-piercing_1333.jpg

This is mutilation. It was mutilation several piercings ago. What is the line?
If I take a scalpel and cut up my arms and legs and then keep the wounds clean so they heal nicely, does that mean it wasn't self harm?

There is a difference between nude artwork and porn. There is a difference between pierced ears and this.

I don't want to look like I've hurt myself, I want to look AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, hence the coil in my lip and the ring in my septum.

Face it, your opinion does not always fit reality. Stop fucking forcing it on people.

He's not forcing it. He's not saying it should be illegal. If a person has a right to do it, others have a right to think its hideous.
Not everyone finds the same things aesthetically pleasing.

This is mutilation. It was mutilation several piercings ago. What is the line?
If I take a scalpel and cut up my arms and legs and then keep the wounds clean so they heal nicely, does that mean it wasn't self harm?


It depends why you do it. Slashing yourself up with a switchblade because you're upset or depressed and need some release = self harm. Using some local anaesthetic cream, carefully cutting a symbol in your skin and putting some coal dust in the incision so you'll have permanent blue lines - why not?

and Orly, I know he's not saying it should be illegal or anything, but he is being VERY derogatory about it, and there's no call for that.

I hate pop music, but you don't see me giving out about it, I just don't listen to it.

...Slashing yourself up with a switchblade because you're upset or depressed and need some release = self harm. ...

Now that I can understand.

It depends why you do it. Slashing yourself up with a switchblade because you're upset or depressed and need some release = self harm. Using some local anaesthetic cream, carefully cutting a symbol in your skin and putting some coal dust in the incision so you'll have permanent blue lines - why not?

So the pic I posted isn't mutilation if he was happy when he did it?

Now that I can understand.

And you're going on about how people with piercings are disturbed? And riding roughshod over everything I say when I explain that it's not about being disturbed and hurting yourself? How fast can you say 'hypocrite'?

Christ, you make me want to vomit. Please go open up a vein and die.

So the pic I posted isn't mutilation if he was happy when he did it?

I do agree with you that people go too far, but at the same time, you gotta understand that they see it as a positive thing, who are we to say 'no, that's mutilation'?

I know it's not about being really disturbed, but looking like you are, which is way more messed up than someone who is just sincerely depressed. I have a friend from a band called National Razor. He used to do this song called "I Wanna Cut Myself", it was awesome, he would actually take a razor blade and cut up his chest. Compare that to some young douchbag that just gets a piercing to look badass... Plus in a fight they will do more harm to you than your opponent.

I'm saying that yes, it's a fucked up thing to do, that's it's appeal. Why try to make it mere "decoration", make it mainstream? No one should do it that isn't sincerely a messed up crazy person living on the fringe of civilized society.

I do agree with you that people go too far, but at the same time, you gotta understand that they see it as a positive thing, who are we to say 'no, that's mutilation'?

I do understand how they see it. They like it. They have to understand how I see it. I see it as disgusting.

I do agree with you that people go too far, but at the same time, you gotta understand that they see it as a positive thing, who are we to say 'no, that's mutilation'?

but what is too far?
To me, too far is always more than you have yourself. I don't think anyone ever thinks they have gone too far. I don't think Michael Jackson does.

I know it's not about being really disturbed, but looking like you are, which is way more messed up than someone who is just sincerely depressed. I have a friend from a band called National Razor. He used to do this song called "I Wanna Cut Myself", it was awesome, he would actually take a razor blade and cut up his chest. Compare that to some young douchbag that just gets a piercing to look badass... Plus in a fight they will do more harm to you than your opponent.

I'm saying that yes, it's a fucked up thing to do, that's it's appeal. Why try to make it mere "decoration", make it mainstream? No one should do it that isn't sincerely a messed up crazy person living on the fringe of civilized society.

So it's not good to LOOK disturbed, but it is good to BE disturbed?


No one should do it that isn't sincerely a messed up crazy person living on the fringe of civilized society

Why not? It's my face, and it is pleasing to me.

Well, neither is really good, but at least one is real.

Inappropriate, yes, but not "nasty"

If you want to run a steel spike from your anus to your bellybutton, that's your business. I only get annoyed when someone fiddles with their facial piercing, then proceeds to serve me food. You're asking a bit much in that case.

I don't think people find them nasty in the way people with piercings want people to find them nasty. You want us to be all shocked and appauled like you're cool crazy kids and we're uptight and dropping our monacles in suprise at how outrageous and radical you are.
The fact you have metal piercing your flesh doesn't phase anyone.
It's kind of "nasty" like a teenage mother is nasty, just like "congratulations, you're a scumbag".
But it's biggest crime is that it's try-hard and lame, indicative of someone who desperately wishes they were interesting or different, and has to accessorise to push that illusion.

You want to believe we're recoiling in shock and awe over how alternative you are, but we're really just glancing down casually and scoffing, doing like "duh" and "wanker" hand gestures. You're not blowing our minds, you're rolling our eyes.

This is coming from someone who pierced his own forearms with safety pins when he was 14, what can I say? I was a complete and utter cockhead, like you are at 35 or whatever it is.

Obviously the ppl who get so many tattoos and piercings probably find another person of the opposite sex who does the same attractive.

There is someone for everyone. What I find attractive Visceral and Luci would probably find boring. From what I have seen of their taste I would run the opposite way...lol

So many ppl have tattoos and piercings now it isn't shocking at all. I remember in high school I had some punker friends with all kinds of piercings and a mohawk. They were considered the rebels lol.

I think ppl take it too far and go overboard, like some of the pictures posted here. I see no problem with a couple tattoos and a few piercings.

I think women that get a lot of tattoos and piercings look harsh, hard looking. I don't find it very feminine, but some women don't want to look feminine. Some men would be totally turned off by that, and some would find it sexy.

I don't think people find them nasty in the way people with piercings want people to find them nasty. You want us to be all shocked and appauled like you're cool crazy kids and we're uptight and dropping our monacles in suprise at how outrageous and radical you are.
The fact you have metal piercing your flesh doesn't phase anyone.
It's kind of "nasty" like a teenage mother is nasty, just like "congratulations, you're a scumbag".
But it's biggest crime is that it's try-hard and lame, indicative of someone who desperately wishes they were interesting or different, and has to accessorise to push that illusion.

You want to believe we're recoiling in shock and awe over how alternative you are, but we're really just glancing down casually and scoffing, doing like "duh" and "wanker" hand gestures. You're not blowing our minds, you're rolling our eyes.

This is coming from someone who pierced his own forearms with safety pins when he was 14, what can I say? I was a complete and utter cockhead, like you are at 35 or whatever it is.

Hahahaha, so true, man. So true ...

Piercings, for the most part, are disgusting. One piercing per earlobe, only for women - that's my limit. The fact is, people who get multiple piercings, especially on odd locations, are screaming for attention. Simply put, they want to fall under the "rebellious" crowd; mainly, they want to look unique. Here's the glaring problem: they are neither rebellious nor unique; rather, they're misguided conformers. The only reason they get piercings is because the subculture they belong to encourages it: from the musicians they hold in God-like status, to the clothes designers who make their Halloween-esque regalia. Piercings have many repercussions, a significant portion of which are fatal. Piercings make their bearers look unprofessional and unclean, and they serve no purpose aside from slurping attention. They're not aesthetically pleasing, they have more health hazards than you could shake a stick at, and they're simply costly accessories which are absolutely unnecessary. If I was a Supreme Dictator, I would criminalize piercings for men, and only allow women the option of earlobe piercings. Unfortunately, it's usually not the piercing itself which poses the problem; the problem itself is the lifestyle it espouses.

People without piercings, or people who have modest piercings, look down on heavily-pierced freaks. Why? They just do. Of course, it's always important to remember that many of my expressed opinions apply only to ridiculous piercings, such as piercings on the tongue, eyebrow, neck, back, and genitalia (that's right - geni-fucking-talia).


Kadark

oh please your all being silly, what is to far for some isnt for others, people just have a perception of people with piercings and tattoos alike, ok they think we're damaged goods, (i am not)

i love my piercings (some more than others) and i love all my tattoos, and kadark why cant people pierce they're genitalia, its they're body? and for the most part its feels good, i ahve to wonder, (no one has actually answered this) would you frown on face piercings if it was for some religious reason??

Quoting myself from the "What's wrong with women" thread:


I can understand that to a certain extent.
Many people I know get facial piercings because it is frowned upon and they are extraordinarily self-absorbed.
(not all, of course, but many, if not most)

Fact is, they are neurotic to a certain extent, no different that most "goths" are, in that they tie their self image and self esteem to how they look on the outside, while claiming to dress this way because they are rejecting the social ideals of those who place so much importance of how people look on the outside.

They crave atention and hope to get it by being hated my the mainstream, rather than being loved by it.
At the same time, they are seeking adulation and acceptance from a "sub-culture" through their shallow, narcisstic actions.
They are no different than those they are claiming to be rebelling against.

Quoting myself from the "What's wrong with women" thread:

i didnt get piercings or my tattoos for that matter, to go against the norm, i did it because i wanted to, i dont crave atenttion at all in fact i try to shy away from it has much as possible

I think that most (MOST, not ALL) people who go in for the fringe trends (or really any fashion trends) are trying to make up for something they lack.
They wear themselves on the outside, because they do not have enough self-esteem to be confident and proud of who they are on the inside.

To be honest, people (especially men) who have piercing or tattoos scare me.
Tattoos or piercing could give different impression, it is not necessarily nasty.
Tattoo on footballer can be cool, but I suppose its not because of the tattoo
but because of the footballer :-P Piercing and temporary tattoos on Indian
brides looks great.

On David Beckham
http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/22/david_beckham_81198805cbbjpg.jpg

A little on nose:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1641/ranimukharjeeweddingkl5.jpg

and hands:
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1382016/2/istockphoto_1382016-east-indian-bride-s-hands.jpg

As for myself, I won't wear any piercing except earrings, and won't tattoo
myself or even apply nail polisher, simply because I like it minimalist.

....They wear themselves on the outside, because they do not have enough self-esteem to be confident and proud of who they are on the inside.

In almost all cases, I agree.

Just think...

When you're 60+, the skin will sag (if it hasn't before then) and those pert tattoos will start looking like some freakish artwork, and not in a good way... And if you're lucky, the body piercings won't be covered up by the layers of skin that start to sag down. And if you're really lucky, the sagging skin won't stretch the holes, so that they look elongated and the pieces of metal droop in it.

:)

And hope, hope like hell you never have to get an MRI in your lifetime.:)

Just think...

When you're 60+, the skin will sag (if it hasn't before then) and those pert tattoos will start looking like some freakish artwork, and not in a good way... And if you're lucky, the body piercings won't be covered up by the layers of skin that start to sag down. And if you're really lucky, the sagging skin won't stretch the holes, so that they look elongated and the pieces of metal droop in it.

:)

And hope, hope like hell you never have to get an MRI in your lifetime.:)

i have already had an MRI!!

Just think...

When you're 60+, the skin will sag (if it hasn't before then) and those pert tattoos will start looking like some freakish artwork, and not in a good way...

Nah I'm gonna die young.



Oh shit, I totally missed the opportunity.

I've heard a number of those who got tattoos when they were young regretted it in their later years. I met one fellow who in his late twenties very much regrets getting both his arms tattooed. He always has to wear long sleeve shirts now. He's totally pissed at himself. He lost at least a few opportunities of women he wanted to get serious with, but when they saw his arms, they ran for the hills. He can't believe how stupid he was for getting them.

Yeah, to each his own, until they grow up.

And hope, hope like hell you never have to get an MRI in your lifetime.:)

I have 1 small tattoo on my shoulder blade. I had to go for an MRI this yr, it was my nightmare come true! :booo:

Anyway I had no problem with the MRI. They just ask you if they used lead paints. I don't think they have even used those for yrs. If there is no lead you are fine.

I He lost at least a few opportunities of women he wanted to get serious with, but when they saw his arms, they ran for the hills.
Yeah, to each his own, until they grow up.

I am not one for a lot of tattoos but if I met a guy I REALLY liked I don't think I would run away if one day he showed up with a short sleeve shirt on and I saw the tattoos. I might be in shock but I would get over it if he was a really nice guy and I was attracted to him.

For me the facial piercings are more of a problem. I don't find it attractive at all.

Like this picture Inzomnia posted. I still find him VERY attractive, regardless of the tattoos. He hasn't messed up his face, which is more of a concern to me.



On David Beckham
http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/22/david_beckham_81198805cbbjpg.jpg

I am not one for a lot of tattoos but if I met a guy I REALLY liked I don't think I would run away if one day he showed up with a short sleeve shirt on and I saw the tattoos. I might be in shock but I would get over it if he was a really nice guy and I was attracted to him.

For me the facial piercings are more of a problem. I don't find it attractive at all.

Like this picture Inzomnia posted. I still find him VERY attractive, regardless of the tattoos. He hasn't messed up his face, which is more of a concern to me.

I doubt many women who swoon over Beckham wouldn't give him the time of day if he was just a regular Joe, and not a sports superstar.

Millions of women all over the world still swoon over Keith Richards.

http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/159/893/images/00106751_lg.jpg

I doubt many women who swoon over Beckham wouldn't give him the time of day if he was just a regular Joe, and not a sports superstar.



Well if I saw him walking down my street I would find him attractive. It has nothing to do with being famous or rich.

I don't understand the Keith Richards thing....YUK :huh: Or that Stephen Tyler from Aerosmith or for that matter Gene Simons. All 3 are totally disgusting in my opinion.

I cant wait for the next self-destructive fad...the next ritual of self-loathing.

Why not go all the way and cut off your head?

"Now I'm dead...the ultimate high!"

And thus be silent. :)

I do agree with you that people go too far, but at the same time, you gotta understand that they see it as a positive thing, who are we to say 'no, that's mutilation'?

Well you do realise that means you have something in common with self harmers; They see their activities as a positive thing, who are you to say 'no, that's mutilation'?.

branding, scarification, and amputation. How about rib removal?

Well you do realise that means you have something in common with self harmers;
We all have "something" in common with self-harmers.:rolleyes:


They see their activities as a positive thing, who are you to say 'no, that's mutilation'?.
Surely they see it as the lesser of two evils, rather than a "positive" thing?

How about rib removal?

Yeah, look at the results from the first time it was supposedly done. ;)

But AI said she agrees that some people take it to far. Some of us think lip piercing is too far. Her 'far' is just more piercings than others.

De gustibus nil disputandum
In the case of self-harmers I agree there's a reason to try to prevent it (or cure it) - they're causing harm.
Other than that...
let's start an anti-polyester wearer campaign;
people over a certain weight should not wear X, Y or Z;
execute anyone with a dorky moustache etc etc :)

We all have "something" in common with self-harmers.:rolleyes:

Cutting something away from it's context to make sarcastic comments is neither clever nor productive.


Surely they see it as the lesser of two evils, rather than a "positive" thing?
Some do, most see it as a positive "release", a rush if you will. It's done to make oneself feel better.

Cutting something away from it's context to make sarcastic comments is neither clever nor productive.
Neither are blanket statements.
Or don't you see your actions (on practically anything) as a positive thing?


Some do, most see it as a positive "release", a rush if you will. It's done to make oneself feel better.
Yes, "better" than the alternative.
Most?
Statistics please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-injury

These functions include self-injury being used as a coping mechanism which provides temporary relief of intense feelings such as anxiety, depression, stress, emotional numbness and a sense of failure or self-loathing. There is a positive statistical correlation between self-injury and emotional abuse.
http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/en/pain/microsite/culture4.html

but for many self-harm is not so much about the inflicting of physical pain as the cessation of emotional pain.
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Self-harm_-_Psychology/id/2129955

This is done by tricking the mind into believing the pain felt at the time is caused by self-injury instead of the issues they were facing before. The physical pain may also act as a distraction from emotional pain, similar to the way a hot water bottle reduces the pain of a stomach ache.

Those who self-injure sometimes describe feelings of emptiness or numbness, and physical pain may be a relief from these feelings.

Why the fuck is it, that despite the likes of Luci and me explaining that it is not about self harm and trying to shock people, there are still posts like this


don't think people find them nasty in the way people with piercings want people to find them nasty. You want us to be all shocked and appauled like you're cool crazy kids and we're uptight and dropping our monacles in suprise at how outrageous and radical you are.
The fact you have metal piercing your flesh doesn't phase anyone.
It's kind of "nasty" like a teenage mother is nasty, just like "congratulations, you're a scumbag".
But it's biggest crime is that it's try-hard and lame, indicative of someone who desperately wishes they were interesting or different, and has to accessorise to push that illusion.


What is your goddamned problem?

Neither are blanket statements.
VI stated she see's tattoos and piercings as positive(fair enough), but that she doesn't see actions of self harmers as positive. I pointed out self harmers can also see their actions as positive, and I don't think she has any more right to say they're not positive than other posters have to say people with piercings are self harmers.
Hardly a blanket statement.


Or don't you see your actions (on practically anything) as a positive thing?
That's precisely my point, VI sees her own actions as positive, as do many other people in different situations.



Yes, "better" than the alternative.
Which alternative, death, or life in pain? They see it as beneficial to them, sure it may not be a productive kind of beneficial but it makes them feel better.
As I said before I've known people use piercings as self-harm, but it made them feel better and it's what they wanted to do with their body, is that better than the alternative of a razorblade?
How about alternative way's of beautification, surely it's just a matter of personal choice over what someone considers better and therefore most positive.

Most?
Statistics please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-injury

http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/en/pain/microsite/culture4.html

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Self-harm_-_Psychology/id/2129955
Come now, you can do better than Wikipedia. I haven't time to read the other two right now but I'm sure you're more than aware self harm isn't exactly easy to track.
I've spoken to a lot of people who've been there and I can only relay the things they say.

Why the fuck is it, that despite the likes of Luci and me explaining that it is not about self harm and trying to shock people, there are still posts like this



What is your goddamned problem?

Since when have you known Lou post anything vaguely agreeable???:p

Well you do realise that means you have something in common with self harmers; They see their activities as a positive thing, who are you to say 'no, that's mutilation'?.

No they don't, they use it as the emotional equivalent of anaesthesia. That is really not positive.

Since when have you known Lou post anything vaguely agreeable???:p

True. He dose post a lot of crap.


I don't think she has any more right to say they're not positive than other posters have to say people with piercings are self harmers.


Ya, but if you need to self harm, you have a problem. You can't kill that with a little adrenaline.

VI stated she see's tattoos and piercings as positive(fair enough), but that she doesn't see actions of self harmers as positive. I pointed out self harmers can also see their actions as positive, and I don't think she has any more right to say they're not positive than other posters have to say people with piercings are self harmers.
Hardly a blanket statement.
Which is exactly what she herself said:

Originally Posted by visceral_instinct
I do agree with you that people go too far, but at the same time, you gotta understand that they see it as a positive thing, who are we to say 'no, that's mutilation'?
She expressed a personal opinion - and qualified it as such by saying that it wasn't her right to declare it's not positive.


Which alternative, death, or life in pain? They see it as beneficial to them, sure it may not be a productive kind of beneficial but it makes them feel better.
Sometimes death is better than a life in pain.
There's a difference in kind, not degree, between most people with piercings and self-harmers.


As I said before I've known people use piercings as self-harm, but it made them feel better and it's what they wanted to do with their body, is that better than the alternative of a razorblade?
As given in the quotes and link, piercing for the purposes of self-harm is not the rule - it's the exception.
Any activity at all can be "misused" by some - does that mean that all people who engage in that activity have the same motive?


How about alternative way's of beautification, surely it's just a matter of personal choice over what someone considers better and therefore most positive.
Nope: there's a difference (in general ) bewteen doing something for aesthetics and doing it for self-harm


Come now, you can do better than Wikipedia. I haven't time to read the other two right now but I'm sure you're more than aware self harm isn't exactly easy to track.
Why should I do "better than Wiki" - it's a handy start. And if you haven't "got time to read the other two" then I'd just be adding to my wasted time.
Did you have time to read the quotes?
75% of them not from Wiki.


I've spoken to a lot of people who've been there and I can only relay the things they say.
You've "spoken to a lot". I spend my entire leaisure time and a good deal of my professional time with people who are pierced or tattooed - and not one has said it's been done for the purposes of self harm - although one woman did say that she did quite enjoy the initial pain when having her ears done.
But then she also really liked her boyfriend to hit her - she had other ways than piercing of "getting her kicks".

Which is exactly what she herself said:

She expressed a personal opinion - and qualified it as such by saying that it wasn't her right to declare it's not positive.
Her comment was with regards to one of the pictures posted in this thread featuring piercings. Mine is the same but with regards to self-harm which VI said was different.
Same comment but with a different focus.



Sometimes death is better than a life in pain.
That's why I asked which alternative. Some people think assisted suicide is ok if someone's in pain, can that be considered a positive thing? Although I suspect that's a different topic.

There's a difference in kind, not degree, between most people with piercings and self-harmers.
I don't think people generally do it for self-harm, I accept VI's reason about aesthetics as the main reason, I just know there are other reasons.



As given in the quotes and link, piercing for the purposes of self-harm is not the rule - it's the exception.
Any activity at all can be "misused" by some - does that mean that all people who engage in that activity have the same motive?
Agreed, and I'm not one of the people who's stated otherwise, I just objected to VI's statement that one is an attitude of "we're free to do what we want if we consider it positive", and one is not.



Nope: there's a difference (in general ) bewteen doing something for aesthetics and doing it for self-harm
That's not what I said at all. I said alternative kinds of beautification ie different kinds of aesthetics, one of which(piercing for example) is considered the "most positive" of the options available.


Why should I do "better than Wiki" - it's a handy start. And if you haven't "got time to read the other two" then I'd just be adding to my wasted time.
Did you have time to read the quotes?
75% of them not from Wiki.
Quotes taken out of context are not something I will consider until I've read the sources. Wiki is good for definitions, not so good for statistics.



You've "spoken to a lot". I spend my entire leaisure time and a good deal of my professional time with people who are pierced or tattooed - and not one has said it's been done for the purposes of self harm - although one woman did say that she did quite enjoy the initial pain when having her ears done.
But then she also really liked her boyfriend to hit her - she had other ways than piercing of "getting her kicks".
See above, you're arguing a point that I haven't brought up but others have. All I have stated is that I have known people who did it for self-harm.

It's the pain tolerance of the people who'd disagree with someone having piercings obviously.

Nose piercings make me squirm because I can't help imagining what it would feel like to have one. I have colossal nasal, sinus, and other breathing and allergy problems, and my nostrils are constantly on the verge of discomfort. If I had the back side of a stud in there it would make my nasal hygiene impossibly complicated and I'd be taking it out every thirty minutes to fix something in my nose.

Those things just give me the creeps. But I don't say anything about them. It's my problem. But since you asked...

i have already had an MRI!!

Must have taken an age to get all the metal out before hand.. and then having to put it back in afterwards.


I have 1 small tattoo on my shoulder blade. I had to go for an MRI this yr, it was my nightmare come true!
I had an MRI when I was 1.5 weeks from my due date when pregnant with my first. I was huge by that point and I cannot even begin to describe the panic that went through me as I was squeezed into that tiny tunnel.. Had to lie half on my side because I couldn't lie on my back due to the fact you should never lie on your back while pregnant.. so my upper body had to twist so that it was flat and my hips wedged so that it was slightly on its side. Of course, that made my belly protrude even more so that it was basically touching the sides. 20 minutes later they finally dragged me out and by that point I was in tears (pain and stress, as well as the fear that I'd go into labour while wedged in there). It was a nightmare.


I doubt many women who swoon over Beckham wouldn't give him the time of day if he was just a regular Joe, and not a sports superstar.
I actually don't find him appealing at all. Have you ever heard the man speak? His voice.. ugh..

He's too pretty for my liking. Everything 'just so', even his eyebrows. And I could never find a guy who uses more beauty products than I do attractive.:p

I actually don't find him appealing at all. Have you ever heard the man speak? His voice.. ugh..

He's too pretty for my liking. Everything 'just so', even his eyebrows. And I could never find a guy who uses more beauty products than I do attractive.:p

LOL. Great thread starter.

If you're in a relationship, would you prefer to be the 'pretty' one, or your partner?

This could go for gay relationships, just as easily.

I had an MRI when I was 1.5 weeks from my due date when pregnant with my first. I was huge by that point and I cannot even begin to describe the panic that went through me as I was squeezed into that tiny tunnel.. Had to lie half on my side because I couldn't lie on my back due to the fact you should never lie on your back while pregnant.. so my upper body had to twist so that it was flat and my hips wedged so that it was slightly on its side. Of course, that made my belly protrude even more so that it was basically touching the sides. 20 minutes later they finally dragged me out and by that point I was in tears (pain and stress, as well as the fear that I'd go into labour while wedged

Good grief... Well I have been claustrophobic to an extent all my life. The first time I ever saw that machine, I said there is NO WAY I could ever go in one of them. I said it would be my worst nightmare if the doctor ever said I had to go in one of them.

Well this yr it came true! I asked for CAT scan but the hospital sent it back and said to get a good look at my spine I needed to get an MRI. I was a nervous wreck until the day. The first time they sent me through I had to get the nurse to get me right back out, in a hurry!! Then I managed to go in again after taking a couple of pills my dr gave me. I was in there for 40 mins and I still have flashbacks sometimes that make my heart speed up. I NEVER want to do that again.

I didn't know you could even go in an MRI when you were pregnant. I thought it was just like X rays where they ask if you are pregnant first. :shrug: I couldn't even imagine that one. :eek:

LOL. Great thread starter.

If you're in a relationship, would you prefer to be the 'pretty' one, or your partner?

This could go for gay relationships, just as easily.

I've never thought of being the prettier one, but I guess I would like to be the vainer one. I don't want a man who spends more time on his hair than I do or more times getting dressed.

LOL. Great thread starter.

If you're in a relationship, would you prefer to be the 'pretty' one, or your partner?

This could go for gay relationships, just as easily.

Well, there's nothing natural about him at all. Everything appears to be so contrived so that it looks perfect or presents a certain image. It is all fake to me. I actually find him extremely unappealing to be honest. I suspect if you get a chisel and scrape off the make up, he would probably be a lot better looking. But then again, he's a pretty boy trying to play a tough boy (*but watch the face*) by getting a bunch of hideous tattoos on his arms, but poses when out in public so that he maintains his pretty boy band persona. Bleh.

All that coupled with his voice....


I didn't know you could even go in an MRI when you were pregnant. I thought it was just like X rays where they ask if you are pregnant first. I couldn't even imagine that one.
It is safe because it does not use radiation like X-Rays. I had two when pregnant with our first child. One during the early weeks of the pregnancy and the second right at the end when I was due. The first one was bad enough.. hated it and was close to panic. Second one had me become completely undone. In short, I lost it big time when they literally wedged me in there. By the end I was a mess, in tears and blabbering incoherently.

I've never thought of being the prettier one, but I guess I would like to be the vainer one. I don't want a man who spends more time on his hair than I do or more times getting dressed.

My boyfriend is very vain and conceited. Everything that gives off his reflection he has to look at himself. It so annoying. He doesn't have any hair though and he doesn't take to long to get dressed. I usually get dressed faster than him, but people say I move faster than the average person.
I thought about getting a stud in my nose, but decided against because it would dangerous to have in with all martial arts I do. I still might do it one of these days though.

I find vain people terribly unattractive.

I find people with exposed veins terribly attractive.

(Wow, check out HER jugular, man, that thing is, like, PULSATING!)

I thought about getting a stud in my nose,

Ok I don't know much about piercings, other then having my ears pierced.
This might be a real stupid question but, if you have a stud in your nose do you have the backing inside your nose just as if the stud was in your earlobe?

(Wow, check out HER jugular, man, that thing is, like, PULSATING!)

the jugular doesnt pulsate, in fact i doubt you could even see the jugular unless you have right side heart failure.
its the caroted artery which pulsates

I love piercings. I'm getting a surface piercing on my cheek in December, then a few on my forearms.

Surface piercings on your forearms? Aren't they easily damaged?

Ok I don't know much about piercings, other then having my ears pierced.
This might be a real stupid question but, if you have a stud in your nose do you have the backing inside your nose just as if the stud was in your earlobe?

Ooh yeah I've always wondered that...

me three

Piercings are very dangerous if you're into sports - it's very unpleasant when one is torn out from your skin.
So it's a no-no among martial artists.

I got em, and I do kickboxing. I take em out before training, or just cover em over with a plaster.

Ooh yeah I've always wondered that...

no what they peierce it with is a turn stud, its a stud that can fold over so it doesnt fall out.

no what they pierce it with is a turn stud, its a stud that can fold over so it doesn't fall out.

I finally saw some in the jewelry case at Wal-Mart. I think this is a fad that is here to stay, kinda like how getting ears pierced a second time isn't something we even think twice about.

It just lays flat against the inside of your nose.
http://www.titaniumonly.com/uploads1/piercing/2879.jpg

My kidney is pierced with a platinum ring. Since it can not be seen, I have an X-ray with me all the time and I am showing it to everybody...

Aw Syz, don't get all acerbic. I like you.

Most people who get tattoos get them for the wrong reasons. The vast majority, in fact. When I have an experience that warrants getting tattoos, for instance, after my first commando raid with Delta Force, or killing a New Guinean tribesman in a war with a neighboring tribe, then I'll get ink done.

But until then, most people who get ink done are posers, pretending that they've done anything important enough, or have enough meaningful feelings to warrant putting it on their body.

That would be why I want one at the base of my back where no one gets to see it. Why can you not accept the notion that people just like to decorate themselves? Sure, it's self indulgent. So is eating a cookie or listening to music or wearing clothes you like. Go live like a monk with nothing to eat except bread and water, then you can moralize.

Most people who get tattoos get them for the wrong reasons. The vast majority, in fact. When I have an experience that warrants getting tattoos, for instance, after my first commando raid with Delta Force, or killing a New Guinean tribesman in a war with a neighboring tribe, then I'll get ink done.

But until then, most people who get ink done are posers, pretending that they've done anything important enough, or have enough meaningful feelings to warrant putting it on their body.

i have done somthing important enough, i ahve a tattoo thats means survivor, because i got through cancer

I found it only nasty if its not fitting visually, but thats my taste of what is looking good.
Some are nice, some arent.
I had couple of ear rings but now days I dont even use a wristwatch, actually I dont have any kind of jewelry, piercings or tattoo on me, I have been thinking tattoo about 15 years, lol, little slow progress I know, my childhood friend is pro with trophies so maybe I should visit him at last, hmmmmmm.

I think piercings are like tattoos, one or two small ones can look decent and classy, but cover your entire body in them and it looks tacky and sometimes kind of scary looking.

I have 1 of my ears pierced with a small d class VS1 2 carat stud, it looks good.


peace.

I think lots of em look cool, but yes, there's a certain point where they cease to look cool and just look alarming.

This looks like decoration. http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/05-lips/A80919/high/n0j2-butterflies.jpg

This however, just looks fucking macabre. http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/11-surface/A80919/high/nz4l-gi-joes-revenge.jpg

This looks like decoration. http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/05-lips/A80919/high/n0j2-butterflies.jpg


Oh my good Lord!

What species is that?! Hell, my dick just turned hopelessly limp after seeing that unidentified organism. Can anybody help me out here?


Kadark

Oh fuck, Kadark you're right. WTF is that thing?

That thing is a girl with facial piercings.

You think she looks drastically altered? Check my second link out.

How can you possibly support that? It's truly ridiculous. I'm an open minded person but that is just FAR too much


Earrings are fine. Hell, even belly button piercings. But what you are showing is excessive.

3 labret studs is not that excessive, really.

HAHAHAha, YOU???????
OPEN MINDED???????

i just litterally fell off my chair

*helps Asguard up*

Lol. :D

Yes I'm open minded. I can entertain other ideas, but that doesn't mean I have to accept them.

But I do engage in dialogue and am empathetic so that makes me open minded. Open minded doesn't mean tolerant.

That thing is a girl with facial piercings.

You think she looks drastically altered? Check my second link out.

I don't think it looks good, but the strange hair may be making it worse. Put it this way, I hope my boys never bring that home for dinner.

The second guy in that link is just disgusting. I don't find that attractive in the least.

What species is that?! Hell, my dick just turned hopelessly limp after seeing that unidentified organism. Can anybody help me out here?
I believe it's a tapir.
http://www.billybear4kids.com/animal/whose-toes/Tapir1Yawn.jpg

They don't usually feed on butterflies, so it's an interesting photograph.

That would be why I want one at the base of my back where no one gets to see it. Why can you not accept the notion that people just like to decorate themselves? Sure, it's self indulgent. So is eating a cookie or listening to music or wearing clothes you like. Go live like a monk with nothing to eat except bread and water, then you can moralize.

Accept?
You're confused.

I find tattoos indicative of retardation.
I accept retards. I just don't find them attractive.

I believe it's a tapir.
http://www.billybear4kids.com/animal/whose-toes/Tapir1Yawn.jpg

They don't usually feed on butterflies, so it's an interesting photograph.

I Lol'ed.

Bastard!

Why the fuck is it, that despite the likes of Luci and me explaining that it is not about self harm and trying to shock people, there are still posts like this



What is your goddamned problem?

Suddenly you two speak for every person who has every gotten a tattoo? Nice. When did they hold the elections?

Most people who get tattoos get them for the wrong reasons. The vast majority, in fact. When I have an experience that warrants getting tattoos, for instance, after my first commando raid with Delta Force, or killing a New Guinean tribesman in a war with a neighboring tribe, then I'll get ink done.

But until then, most people who get ink done are posers, pretending that they've done anything important enough, or have enough meaningful feelings to warrant putting it on their body.

I have a six pack, and I constantly love rubbing my fingers along my abs. If I got a tattoo, it's so I could always look at it and be like, damn, that kicks ass. What's wrong with that?

Suddenly you two speak for every person who has every gotten a tattoo? Nice. When did they hold the elections?

The fact is that they are two people who have piercings.

That means that not everybody does it for x or y reason.

i'm getting my last piercing done on saturday, and i cant wait, then the folowing saturday we are getting a joint tattoo

Your getting a joint tattoo? Is that like a tattoo of a marijuana cigarette?

Your getting a joint tattoo? Is that like a tattoo of a marijuana cigarette?

nope, its a heart that will only look like a heart when we are close to each other in a certain way!

dude..........

dude..........

what?

too much information

nope, its a heart that will only look like a heart when we are close to each other in a certain way!

We? I am just wondering, is this some sort of symbol to say you are committed to eachother?

Personally if the relationship ended I would be really upset to have something permanently etched in my skin. ( I know you can have them removed but that costs a lot of money)

too much information

lol..no wait, I have to know more.

Luci, what the hell are you talking about? Joint tattoo? Where did this idea come from?

lol..no wait, I have to know more.

Luci, what the hell are you talking about? Joint tattoo? Where did this idea come from?

for the love of god,use your imagination...but not too much.think about it for exactly 0.000045 seconds.

lol..no wait, I have to know more.

Luci, what the hell are you talking about? Joint tattoo? Where did this idea come from?

Yes Inquiring minds want to know!!!


Yeah where is this tatoo going? You say when it is together in a certain way............that leaves a lot to the imagination ;)

Ya...inquiring minds want to know. Are we talking nether region tattoos?

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/clusteringflux/DSCF0185.jpg?t=1222203135

Suddenly you two speak for every person who has every gotten a tattoo? Nice. When did they hold the elections?

No we don't it's just annoying that you seem to assume everyone who gets one is doing it for self harm related reasons unless they pass some kind of test that says they are sufficiently normal and respectable.

I have a six pack, and I constantly love rubbing my fingers along my abs. If I got a tattoo, it's so I could always look at it and be like, damn, that kicks ass. What's wrong with that?

It's pathetic. That's all. Lots of pathetic people do pathetic things. Why do you demand that I respect it?

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/clusteringflux/DSCF0185.jpg?t=1222203135

LOL......I hope you didn't use permanent marker. :D
For a second there you almost had me...hahaha

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp322/clusteringflux/DSCF0185.jpg?t=1222203135

so wrong!!

i am not telling you all where it will be, even if it was on his hand and on my breast would not tell you!

lol..no wait, I have to know more.

Luci, what the hell are you talking about? Joint tattoo? Where did this idea come from?

it came from an idea he had!

LOL......I hope you didn't use permanent marker. :D
For a second there you almost had me...hahaha

The funny part is once I had both hands tied up I had to get creative to press the button on the camera.








I used my nose.

so wrong!!

i am not telling you all where it will be, even if it was on his hand and on my breast would not tell you!

Huh?
That's odd.

You can use my idea if you like it. :D

Huh?
That's odd.

You can use my idea if you like it. :D


no thanks

Why not go all the way and cut off your head?



ha ha. Thats a classic.

I voted each to there own but I dont like earings on men. It seems like a feminine thing to do. Perhaps a little but gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that, each to there own :)