View Full Version : Why don't people eat right and exercise?


desi
03-14-10, 08:43 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

Pinwheel
03-14-10, 08:49 PM
Unhealthy food tastes great and exercise requires effort, while vegetating in front of the TV is easy.

draqon
03-14-10, 08:55 PM
people do not exercise and do not eat good food because of Pinwheel. She does believe in people exercising and eating good so as a result they are reading in Pinwheel's sentence and shoveling tons of cheeseburgers and godiva chocolates because they feel sad not to be believed in and not be given faith in.

andyfx
03-15-10, 03:34 AM
healthy food is as delicios, i think it is the comon knoledge that healthy means carrots and water. it all starts from parenting. eating healthy meanst eating more than 3 times a day and eating all food groups. and salads can be heavenly too: )

cosmictraveler
03-15-10, 06:37 AM
Why do you suppose this is so?

Because people are lazy.

Because people make excuses for not wanting to.

superstring01
03-15-10, 06:46 AM
I exercise a lot. Two days of weights. Three days of mixed cardio. I've got a spinning class today that I'm getting ready for now.

As for the "eating right" part. Well, I do eat right, about 90% of the time. (by "right" I mean a vegetable and lean meat laden diet, with a smattering of complex carbs like legumes and whole brown rice; the other 10% is when I break down and have a PB&J sandwich or on Sundays when I allow myself to go to the Kiedrowski's Bakery (http://fox8.cityvoter.com/kiedrowski-s-simply-delicious-bakery/biz/57341) and pig out on snoogles (http://www.kiedrobakery.com/snoogle)).

~String

Pinwheel
03-15-10, 06:56 AM
I exercise a lot. Two days of weights. Three days of mixed cardio. I've got a spinning class today that I'm getting ready for now.

As for the "eating right" part. Well, I do eat right, about 90% of the time. (by "right" I mean a vegetable and lean meat laden diet, with a smattering of complex carbs like legumes and whole brown rice; the other 10% is when I break down and have a PB&J sandwich or on Sundays when I allow myself to go to the Kiedrowski's Bakery (http://fox8.cityvoter.com/kiedrowski-s-simply-delicious-bakery/biz/57341) and pig out on snoogles (http://www.kiedrobakery.com/snoogle)).

~String
But you're not most people.

jscott
03-15-10, 07:07 AM
People have no time to eat and for exercise...busy people..

scifes
03-15-10, 07:09 AM
Because people are lazy.

Because people make excuses for not wanting to.

putting it in "chemical" words(maybe thermo dynamic?), all things in this universe tend to go from their current state of energy to a lower state, not higher.

sandy
03-15-10, 08:00 AM
Lazy. Lack of motivation. The majority of Americans are overweight now. They sit in front of the tv and computer much of the day. They eat what they like and don't care. Usually when they start getting health issues they try to straighten up. Still, many don't and just take medication.

visceral_instinct
03-15-10, 11:35 AM
@Andyfx, salads can indeed be healthy. I love them for the zingy taste of onions and mayonnaise...

Mrs.Lucysnow
03-15-10, 11:47 AM
Laziness.

quantum_wave
03-15-10, 12:04 PM
Short term perspective. Not looking to the future, not learning from the experiences of others. Wanting to be left to decide what they want to do for themselves and being told what is healthy is a good enough reason not to do it :p.

clusteringflux
03-15-10, 12:10 PM
If you want to eat a variety of healthy food, it can be expensive. It does get boring if you can't afford anything but beans and rice.

Many forms of exercise (someone motioned weights) are as mentally stimulating as watching ice cubes melt. Push ups, sit-ups and things like that are only enjoyable for a very small section of the population. It's much easier for some people to find a hobby that includes exercise while they can also challenge their mind. Sports are good for that but then what sport can you play by yourself.
And again the more elaborate the hobbies/sport, the more it costs in money and time.
In some relationships eating expensive health food and spending much time on your physique may even end up in an argument about selfishness.

I tend to also think of it as an inertia effect. Body at rest.. yada, yada.

Syzygys
03-15-10, 01:21 PM
Why do you suppose this is so?

I also wonder why the rain is wet and the sun warm?

spidergoat
03-15-10, 03:18 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

Evolution. Natural selection favored our ancestors that enjoyed high calorie foods and relaxing when they didn't have anything else to do.

francois
03-15-10, 04:08 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

I have a friend who was extremely fat and appeared to be continually gaining weight. We didn't talk for about ten months or so. I'm talking two meters high and 140kgs. Then I meet him again and he's a normal, healthy weight. Skinny and muscular. I last talked to him at New Year's Eve. "Why? How did you lose weight so quickly?"--I mean, obviously if he's able to do that he's not lazy.

The reason, he answered, is that his doctor told him that if he continues with his current behavior--well--bad things will happen, soon.

My friend, Rob, not being stupid or lazy, suddenly started giving a shit. He became educated in nutrition. He went to the gym religiously and worked out hard. (In fact one time I was talking to him at our college gym and between sets I was talking some shit about computers and he passed out.). Yeah. Total reversal.

He was an extreme case. He had very bad behaviors. Most people don't behave that badly for practical reasons. The reason most people don't take very good care of themselves is because they're uneducated. And stupid and lazy and all that shit. But they're uneducated because they're stupid and lazy and all that shit. The reasons sort of meld into this one pot of awfulness in which there's no clear discernible cause.

Stoniphi
03-15-10, 05:16 PM
Denial, primarily. They know that bad stuff can happen to them if they don't live healthy, but they figure that it will happen to then next person, not them. We all know the person who got scared and then got healthy. They were just lucky, as most end up dead or disabled from their 'event'.

Further, the commercial economy pushes trash to make money, not to keep us around - remember cigarettes?

Children will eat what their parents eat and what is put before them. If the parents make responsible choices and show by example, their kids will follow suit. This is precisely what my wife and I have done, and our teenage son is one of the healthiest and strongest young men in his high school. He is also the only one who raises his hand when the class is asked who eats broccoli....

He runs with my dog and I on his days off - as far as 18 miles and as short as 7 miles. Plays with our weights as well, just like his ma and pa. ;)

A few sports that you can do on your own: running, biking, yoga, weight training, martial arts, swimming, hiking, kayaking, canoeing, playing hard and physical with the dog.

Pinwheel
03-15-10, 05:22 PM
Dont worry Charlie Brooker has a plan to save Mankind.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/mar/15/charlie-brooker-time


Because time is invisible, it's hard to work out which bit to focus on at any given moment. It's even hard to work out just how long "any given moment" is. Right now, as you're reading this article, are you absorbing it by the paragraph, by the sentence, or on a word-by-word basis? When I type the word "word", does time temporarily slow down while you hear the word "word" spoken aloud in your mind, or have you already leapt ahead to discover the end of the sentence doesn't sense quite make? How big a "timeslice" can your awareness eat in one go?

The more time you swallow in one sitting, the wiser you become. In Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five, we're introduced to the Tralfamadorians, an alien race who can see in four dimensions. They experience life not as a linear sequence of unexpected events, but a timeline of inexorable peaks and troughs, occurring simultaneously. Tralfamadorians aren't upset by tragic events or overjoyed at happy events, because the concept of "events" has no meaning; to them, sunrise, sunset, birth, death, peace, war are all just notches on the same stick. When confronted with tragedy, they merely shrug and say, "So it goes." That's why there's never been a Tralfamadorian on EastEnders.

Anyway, while most people don't perceive life with the worrisome scope of a Tralfamadorian, they're capable of projecting at least a little. Take joggers. They weren't born with a pre-programmed desire to jog. No. One day they decided they'd like to get fit, and chose to sacrifice their immediate comfort in favour of delayed gratification: they got off the sofa and jogged themselves slim. Every jogger is essentially a clairvoyant. They've transcended the shackles of contemporary subsistence and risen above the likes of you and me, to witness a vision of the future so captivating it blocks out the pain of the present, so enticing, they're literally compelled to run towards it. Not only that, they've been organised enough to buy proper trainers and shorts and everything, the smug bastards. No wonder everyone else wants to hit them. Here's a tip: visualise a future in which you've toned yourself to athletic perfection by fighting random joggers in the park. Here's another tip: wear some sort of mask. And maybe a cape. We'll come up with a logo for your chest plate later.

Joggers are a minority, but then exercisers generally are a minority. Even though we're repeatedly told that regular exercise combats heart disease and cancer and blah blah nag nag nag, more than 60% of the population couldn't be arsed trying, because it makes their legs ache. They're not necessarily lazy, but suffering from an inability to perceive the future as a solid and tangible thing, unlike those far-sighted seers in running shoes and sweat pants. Perhaps joggers have a few additional Tralfamadorian synapses; only by experimenting on their brains can we be sure. Meanwhile, the rest of us remain stubbornly wedged into narrow individual pockets of time, moaning that we need to lose a few pounds while sobbing into our chips.

visceral_instinct
03-15-10, 05:22 PM
I love lifting weights and martial arts. Also do free running (Just crap stuff in a beginner's class...) I hate any sort of endurance training, though. It usually ends in my almost fainting. I'm always the one in free running class struggling so hard to breathe after the (mild) warm up that my inhales sound like metal scraping on metal. Yup...literally...

visceral_instinct
03-15-10, 05:25 PM
@Pinwheel: I couldn't really agree with that. I love exercise in the here and now moment. I like the feeling of hefting something heavy over my head. :D:D

sandy
03-16-10, 08:27 AM
...The reason most people don't take very good care of themselves is because they're uneducated. And stupid and lazy and all that shit. But they're uneducated because they're stupid and lazy and all that shit. The reasons sort of meld into this one pot of awfulness in which there's no clear discernible cause.

I have to disagree with that. I have a lot of fat friends. They are mostly brilliant and not lazy. They just don't care. They are fat and happy and laugh at me when I eat shredded wheat ("cardboard") for breakfast. I think we Americans love our food and most (70%?) have given up the battle.

visceral_instinct
03-16-10, 01:33 PM
I have to disagree with that. I have a lot of fat friends. They are mostly brilliant and not lazy. They just don't care. They are fat and happy and laugh at me when I eat shredded wheat ("cardboard") for breakfast. I think we Americans love our food and most (70%?) have given up the battle.

Some people just have a shit metabolism. I know a girl who does martial arts, various forms of dance including ballet, and plays football. She's still fat.

Yay for being a lil skinny mutant, like me :D My body fat level stays about 17% when I'm SEDENTARY. O_O

Nasor
03-16-10, 02:45 PM
The reason most people don't take very good care of themselves is because they're uneducated. And stupid and lazy and all that shit. But they're uneducated because they're stupid and lazy and all that shit.
Nope. There have been many studies (I'm sure you can find them with a little googling) showing that medical doctors are just as bad about not getting exercise and eating badly as everyone else. Clearly eduction is not the answer.

jayleew
03-16-10, 02:59 PM
Some good reasons everyone else put out:
Laziness
Free Time
Genetics (metabolism)
Higher Cost (little or no perservatives equates to less supply)
Addiction
Lack Parental Guidance
This probably is the best solution. With encouragement and support any problem a child has can be dealt with and habits that last are best established at younger ages.

visceral_instinct
03-16-10, 04:11 PM
My mother always tried to get me to eat right. No use. I got addicted to strong tasting foods, and refused to eat anything else.

Stoniphi
03-16-10, 04:23 PM
I would say that seeing into the future is indeed part of it. I have a couple of good friends in their mid - 90's. While they are slowing down now, they have always been active and taken care of themselves. Both outlasted sedentary wives by decades.

When I was a puppy, I loved to watch Jack Lalane. He was inspirational. Now at 94, he is still inspirational. Helio Gracie was always one of my heroes too - in the ring doing Jujitsu the day before he died at 93, fit as a fiddle until then. If I am so lucky as to hit my 90's, I hope to be in as good a condition as those fine folks. That is how I see the future, and why I work out like a madman now - I love being fit, even if I am usually sore.

quantum_wave
03-16-10, 05:14 PM
I would say that seeing into the future is indeed part of it. I have a couple of good friends in their mid - 90's. While they are slowing down now, they have always been active and taken care of themselves. Both outlasted sedentary wives by decades.

When I was a puppy, I loved to watch Jack Lalane. He was inspirational. Now at 94, he is still inspirational. Helio Gracie was always one of my heroes too - in the ring doing Jujitsu the day before he died at 93, fit as a fiddle until then. If I am so lucky as to hit my 90's, I hope to be in as good a condition as those fine folks. That is how I see the future, and why I work out like a madman now - I love being fit, even if I am usually sore.I love that post. As I sit here reading this I had a good laugh because I am sore all over from edging my driveway with a shovel. I used muscles that had been unused form a long time and as I was doing it I knew it was going to hurt later and now while I sit here sore and exhausted I feel good for having done it.

Cellar_Door
03-16-10, 05:16 PM
We're all going to die painfully and alone anyway. Life is too short to eat mediocre food and exercise for the sake of exercising.

draqon
03-16-10, 05:54 PM
We're all going to die painfully and alone anyway. Life is too short to eat mediocre food and exercise for the sake of exercising.

we don't die alone. Dying is a passage are is both helped and guarded by both sides, in life and not.

visceral_instinct
03-16-10, 07:15 PM
We're all going to die painfully and alone anyway. Life is too short to eat mediocre food and exercise for the sake of exercising.

Agreed. :)

Who wants to live in a sterile bubble all yer life?

Try Again
03-16-10, 07:26 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

Most people want to lose weight, they just don't want to do what it takes to lose that weight. That's why so many weight loss pills are sold. People are lazy, many heavier people are smart, they just don't know how to work out. That's the thing with so many Americans, they want to be rewarded, but they don't want to work for it.

stateofmind
03-16-10, 07:29 PM
We're all going to die painfully and alone anyway. Life is too short to eat mediocre food and exercise for the sake of exercising.

It's the difference between quality and quantity. I think regular exercising will actually decrease your lifespan buuuuuuuut you'll look better and probably get laid a lot more. Ever notice how the people who live past 100 are always the skinny types and not necessarily athletic? They lazed around pumping less blood and ate less which preserved the machinery a bit more.

Fraggle Rocker
03-16-10, 08:03 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?Because the purpose of life is not merely to prolong itself.

visceral_instinct
03-17-10, 08:26 AM
Because the purpose of life is not merely to prolong itself.

Yay, thank you. I don't particularly care about living until 110 either. I'd rather focus on having a quality life than an especially long one.

Cellar_Door
03-17-10, 02:58 PM
Because the purpose of life is not merely to prolong itself.

I wish I could have put it as elegantly as that.

Pinwheel
03-17-10, 03:08 PM
What....is the purpose of life?

Cellar_Door
03-17-10, 03:55 PM
What....is the purpose of life?

You're opening up a can of worms there, first of all by presuming that there is one.

CutsieMarie89
03-17-10, 04:31 PM
Because unhealthy food is quick easy and tastes good, and exercise requires effort, time, and is painful for beginners. I admit that I am like most people in that I eat whatever I want and never give a first thought to what I'm eating, if I want it I'll eat it. I also have no scheduled workout routine either. I'm probably heading for a heart attack in 20 years or so, but I'm in perfect health now and since I can't see or feel the damage I am not motivated to change my terrible eating habits. Maybe when I have a family I'll care about what my children eat and will then change as well :shrug: I hope.

Stoniphi
03-18-10, 05:07 PM
OK folks, here is another way to look at it.

When/if you get old enough, you are going to come down with a bunch of conditions...stuff like type 2 diabetes, dementia, Parkinson's, COPD, sever arthritis, gout, chronic inflammation and a whole slew of other nasty items. Together, they are going to take you out. The question is - how long is that going to take?

My lazy, eat-what-I-want mom has that stuff, has been living in a nursing home for 7 years now with that stuff. Her breathing sounds terrible from the COPD. When I go visit her every month, I pass a whole lot of folks who also suffer from those nasty conditions and more. I am not sure that she remembers my name or my sons. She is unclear about a lot of stuff anymore.

We all get there, the question is how long do you linger there on the way out. If you eat right and exercise regular like you know that you are supposed to, then that time is short and relatively painless. If you have not, it can drag on for years and hurt a lot.


Because the purpose of life is not merely to prolong itself.

Right, there are other things to do as well, and you will be able to all of that much better if you take common - sense care of what you have, including your health. I am looking forward to taking care of my grandchildren, not having them take care of me. ;)

I eat better than most of you I will bet, and enjoy the heck out of my meals as well. I guess that I should go grille up that fine salmon now. I will be serving steamed fresh broccoli, side of brown basmati and whole pearled barley, side of salad to go with that salmon. A few slices of whole wheat bread from the local baker as well, whole grain chocolate cake and Breyers natural vanilla ice cream for dessert. A glass or 2 of a mid grade Cabernet while I am cooking and the national news on in the background.

Bon Apetite! :D

spidergoat
03-18-10, 05:17 PM
How about if I eat what I want and then kill myself if I end up lingering?

darksidZz
03-19-10, 03:22 AM
Modern living makes it difficult to find time

Pinwheel
03-19-10, 08:11 AM
Really? What are you doing all the time?

Stoniphi
03-20-10, 03:48 PM
How about if I eat what I want and then kill myself if I end up lingering?

I too was a supporter of Dr Kevorkian. ;) Yeah, I would say that you should have that right. The trick is that I do eat what I want, I have merely chosen to eat good stuff and for the most part avoid eating the bad stuff.

For me, it is a matter of extending my quality of life to the limits of my personal genetic capacity. I do science, so I use that in making my choices, and I enjoy the high quality of life that I have from making these choices as I have. :D

Stoniphi
03-20-10, 03:55 PM
I must add that I consider my daily exercise regimen to be my principle health care plan. My health care insurance is the back - up plan.

Also note this: While I do believe that it is your right to kill yourself with your choice in diet or sedentary lifestyle, I do not think that it is my responsibility to pay for your health insurance in that case. In fact, I do not want to be on the same insurance plan as you if you are going to do that. Or if you smoke or are an IV drug user etc. You should pay your own way if you are going to chump yourself by way of self care. "Pay to play."

visceral_instinct
03-20-10, 04:02 PM
No prob, Stoniphi. I'll pay for my own insulin when the shit ton of red bull I drink finally gives me diabetes. :D

Stoniphi
03-20-10, 04:06 PM
You're on! (Doesn't that come in 'sugar free' yet?)

visceral_instinct
03-20-10, 04:09 PM
It does, but that crap has yet worse stuff in it. Aspartame. My friend got addicted to that by accident via a chewing gum she routinely chewed, gave the shit up for Lent, had severe withdrawal effects including migraine and an epileptic seizure.

dixonmassey
03-20-10, 07:38 PM
First, only wealthy and upper middle class can afford reasonably fresh, chemicals etc. free food. Good high quality food is a luxury few on the lower social perches would ever taste. The only option for majority to get "good" food is to grow it. Unfortunately, people are way too removed from the land and nature even to consider it, besides it involves owning land i.e. lots of $.

Have you been to a ghetto grocery store? Prices are outrageous (way more than much more affluent suburban crowd pays) choices are very limited. Junk is pretty much the only affordable option. Everything else is a "delicatessen". Exercising in in human unfriendly towns, cities and rural areas built to accommodate cars is mighty dangerous and simply stupid (even in zero crime areas). Property laws effectively lock out less financially blessed crowds on the streets using fences and "No Trespassing" signs. Only in America you can feel claustrophobic in the midst of Great Plains somewhere in Kansas. Besides, food high in fats and sugar is a mild stimulant and antidepressant. Sugars&fats become more addictive if mixed with chemical additives (almost 1000 !!!) generously used by agro -junk food industrial complex in the mere mortal foods.

To summarize why people don't do it:

1) It's expensive, prohibitively expensive
2) People are removed from land, nature and each other
3) Criminally insane urban & rural design
4) Property laws making all kinds of spaces unavailable for the use by less financially blessed crowds. It makes you claustrophobic. Only in America one could find a sign like this along Ohio River way far away from ports etc. "State Property, No Trespassing"
5) It's mildly addictive antidepressant and stimulant. The poorer you are, the lower is your perch the more drugs and stimulants you need to carry you through your obvious failure to reach a higher perch.
6) It takes some time and lot's of junk food to recuperate from exhausting and frequently mentally&physically unhealthy wage jobs. Metro-sexual types who eat "right" & exercise simply don't understand that some wage jobs are life & energy & health drains, after work exercise and cooking healthy is not an option you are so spent.

Orleander
03-20-10, 07:44 PM
It does, but that crap has yet worse stuff in it. Aspartame. My friend got addicted to that by accident via a chewing gum she routinely chewed, gave the shit up for Lent, had severe withdrawal effects including migraine and an epileptic seizure.

what!? Are you saying a doctor told her that she had seizures because she quit chewing gum with aspartame in it?

dixonmassey
03-20-10, 07:59 PM
Aspartame can cause seizures among other things.

Orleander
03-20-10, 08:00 PM
Aspartame can cause seizures among other things.

yes, it can cause it. Not using it anymore can cause it??

dixonmassey
03-20-10, 08:05 PM
It's really impossible to say whether over the lent seizures were caused by the built up aspartame or by withdrawal from it.

Pinwheel
03-21-10, 05:17 AM
Interesting summary dixonmassey. But in some cases, how expensive is a treadmill or exercise bike?

CutsieMarie89
03-21-10, 11:36 AM
I too was a supporter of Dr Kevorkian. ;) Yeah, I would say that you should have that right. The trick is that I do eat what I want, I have merely chosen to eat good stuff and for the most part avoid eating the bad stuff.

For me, it is a matter of extending my quality of life to the limits of my personal genetic capacity. I do science, so I use that in making my choices, and I enjoy the high quality of life that I have from making these choices as I have. :D

By "avoid eating the bad stuff" you mean you just don't like stuff that is unhealthy for you? Or you just choose not to eat stuff that is bad for you?

Ganymede
03-21-10, 02:05 PM
The reason why people don't workout is simple, they don't realize how easy it is to get into great physical shape. 30 minutes of weight training 4 days week is all it takes. All you have to do is simple push and pulling exercises to establish a solid core. As for diet, 99.9% of diets are gimmicks to sell you stuff you don't need. All one has to do is eat whole organic foods, and you don't have to count calories.

kurros
03-22-10, 12:49 AM
The reason why people don't workout is simple, they don't realize how easy it is to get into great physical shape. 30 minutes of weight training 4 days week is all it takes. All you have to do is simple push and pulling exercises to establish a solid core. As for diet, 99.9% of diets are gimmicks to sell you stuff you don't need. All one has to do is eat whole organic foods, and you don't have to count calories.

Probably many people consider that a lot of effort.

Stoniphi
03-22-10, 04:57 PM
By "avoid eating the bad stuff" you mean you just don't like stuff that is unhealthy for you? Or you just choose not to eat stuff that is bad for you?

I don't eat stuff that is bad for me or that I have a bad reaction to. If I don't eat it at all, I neither like or dislike it, I just don't eat it.

nirakar
03-22-10, 10:36 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

The bell curve of instincts is optimized to deal the environment and conditions in which humans evolved. These times in the modern world create very different conditions than what people evolved in. It used to be that any calorie consumed was a good calorie and energy conserved was good unless you were a youth.

Sugar, fat and salt were hard to come by so instinctually most humans like these things more than is healthy for a modern society. I the natural word being under stress and being forced to exercise more than normal go together so stuffing your face while under stress when given the opportunity might have been a sensible instinct.

Parents sometimes give food as rewards or to calm children which can set up some bad emotional patterns. In the traditional world parents could not rely on food as much to reward or calm children.

Cars, TVs, telephones, video games, computers, books, and the reduction in comfort that we have outside our house because our towns are filled with strangers rather than members of our tribe, are all things that reduce the level of activity that most people get.

We all know what we should be doing but do we do it. Some people eat to much. Others snap at their spouses and say cruel things that they don't even believe. Some people spend money that they can't afford to spend. Using our knowledge and will power to override our instincts and our conditioning/emotional programming is not so easy; but why is this hard?

My guess is that most of what we think is knowledge is just bullshit fad of the day culture. If our instinct says don't bleed me but the 1850s doctor wants to bleed you to heal your sickness instinct is correct and so called knowledge is wrong. Our system does not make it easy for our belief systems and conscious mind to override our unconscious system because throughout most of human history our unconscious system was more correct about how to survive and procreate than our belief systems were.

superstring01
03-23-10, 06:06 AM
Because the purpose of life is not merely to prolong itself.

Exercise does not just "prolonge" life, it extends ones "good" years, reduces many, MANY miseries (in even the shortest life) and increases one's ability to enjoy a whole host of "other" activities, including the occasional over-eating. While the obvious quantitative increase cannot be ignored (nor should it), the glaring fact is that there is an exponential qualitative increase throughout life as well. Mood, stamina, internal health. You name it. All of the "quality" stuff improves too. So, even if I only live for another five years (till 40), I'll still continue exercising until my dying day. First, it's just fun. Second, my mood improves. Third, I don't get winded like other fatties when I do all sorts of other fun stuff.

~String

Stoniphi
03-23-10, 04:06 PM
:) Yep.

stratos
06-30-10, 01:43 PM
If you'd told our ancestors 200 years ago that the poorest people in society would also be the fattest, they would have been unable to work out how.

Syzygys
06-30-10, 03:41 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

I exercise and I don't particulary it unhealthy, nevertheless my cholesterol level was 255, which is a lot. My weight is perfect by the way...

After a while I said, screw it. If I can even it what I like beside not smoking, drinking (a lot) or taking drugs, what the hell is life good for?

So maybe most people just don't care that much. Why would we want to live up to 100, if we have to live like monks? Where is the fun in that???

soullust
06-30-10, 05:05 PM
Most people know what is healthy to eat and that exercise is good for them. Yet most people don't seem to do eat well or exercise. Why do you suppose this is so?

Inflation....

visceral_instinct
06-30-10, 05:40 PM
So maybe most people just don't care that much. Why would we want to live up to 100, if we have to live like monks? Where is the fun in that???

I totally agree.

I'd rather live life at 110% and die young than live like a monk, deny myself this and that and the other...for what? Just so I can be a good girl in society's eyes? Screw that.

visceral_instinct
06-30-10, 05:41 PM
I exercise and I don't particulary it unhealthy, nevertheless my cholesterol level was 255, which is a lot. My weight is perfect by the way...

Lol, I eat a ton of shit that I shouldn't....cookies, sweets, whatever has an intense taste. I'm 5'7 and 50kg...mutant girl hehe :)

francois
07-01-10, 07:58 AM
Exercise does not just "prolonge" life, it extends ones "good" years, reduces many, MANY miseries (in even the shortest life) and increases one's ability to enjoy a whole host of "other" activities, including the occasional over-eating. While the obvious quantitative increase cannot be ignored (nor should it), the glaring fact is that there is an exponential qualitative increase throughout life as well. Mood, stamina, internal health. You name it. All of the "quality" stuff improves too. So, even if I only live for another five years (till 40), I'll still continue exercising until my dying day. First, it's just fun. Second, my mood improves. Third, I don't get winded like other fatties when I do all sorts of other fun stuff.

~String

Yep, I agree completely. Being fit and taking care of yourself improves virtually every aspect of your being. It's almost as if the body evolved with the expectation that it would undergo a good amount of physical activity every day.

People are just too content to give a shit about taking care of the body. You see a fat person? That's a happy person. When people get into relationships, they get fat because they're happy. Usually people who take good care of themselves had some rational realization that health is a valuable thing.

visceral_instinct
07-01-10, 10:21 AM
People are just too content to give a shit about taking care of the body. You see a fat person? That's a happy person. When people get into relationships, they get fat because they're happy. Usually people who take good care of themselves had some rational realization that health is a valuable thing.

Hmm, weird. I'm happy, but I do like exercise.

Bert
07-31-10, 10:13 PM
Unhealthy food tastes great and exercise requires effort, while vegetating in front of the TV is easy.


People have no time to eat and for exercise...busy people..

that's your answer. I try getting my mum to exercise avec moi but she's much too busy...
talking to her friends and watching tv.

Ganymede
08-01-10, 09:44 PM
If people realized how much better they'd feel if they worked out more people would do it. We live in a society that conditions us to choose instant gratification over everything else. Also, 99% of the food that's advertised is actually bad for you. 99% of the restaurants we're surrounded by are serving you bad food. Once someone becomes a diabetic like me you'll soon realize that everything outside of the produce isle in your local grocery store is abound with high glycemic carbs, sugar, and trans-fats.