wich was the first culture/civilisation/tribe to actually engage in mass group training for battle/war/hunting?, with weapons and unnarmed combat?

Judging from my admittedly paltry knowledge of the recent first contacts between civilization and pre-civilized peoples (North America, Australia, the Amazon, parts of New Guinea, etc.) it's a safe bet that war was one of the inventions of civilization.

That rings true, since almost all wars are ultimately about either economics or religion. People without civilization by definition have virtually no surplus, and the possession of surpluses is what economic wars are fought over. The monotheistic, patriarchal Abrahamist religions also did not exist among tribal people, and it's almost exclusively Christians, Muslims, and Jews who fight over religion. Not the polytheistic people who came before them, who respected the counsel of their female elders, who recognized their shared beliefs. The Greeks and Egyptians, for example, didn't need Joseph Campbell to explain to them that Aphrodite and Hathor are the same deity.

If we stop searching for evidence of warfare in the era before civilization, we're faced with the reality that every civilization invented it. There are only six civilizations: Egypt, China, Mesopotamia, India, Olmec/Maya/Aztec, and Inca. The rest of us are descended from their people or from "barbarians" who either were conquered by them or who stole or bartered for their artifacts and copied them.

They were all bloodthirsty maniacs, and many of us think they still are. Which of them was the first to raise an army? I don't know, all of their ancient histories go all the way back into misty pasts during which they were already making war on the "barbarians" at their perimeter. The first civilization to raise an army was probably simply the first civilization.

I don't know which that is. We can rule out the New World, its people got a late start because of their recent migration from Asia and didn't establish civilizations much earlier than 1000BCE. But the four Old World civilizations? They all have solid archeological evidence going back way before 3000BCE. I can't find a definitive source to give me a best-guess date as to their founding, perhaps one of you can.

As for trained, organized hunting? Geeze, that must go all the way back to the Mesolithic Era. By definition they didn't have writing or metal so they didn't leave enough evidence for us to carbon-date their first group hunting class. :)

wich was the first culture/civilisation/tribe to actually engage in mass group training for battle/war/hunting?, with weapons and unnarmed combat?

There cannot be any definitive answer to this question.It's certain to have happened independently several times over throughout the world long before there was ANY form of recorded history. Sorry, but the quest really IS futile.

ok fair enough but i was just wondering about the first recorded civilisation having training routines it interests me,

peace

ok fair enough but i was just wondering about the first recorded civilisation having training routines it interests me,

peace

I see. In that case, my best guess would be China.

ok fair enough but i was just wondering about the first recorded civilisation having training routines it interests me,

peace

At a guess, I'd say the Assyrians--they were certainly the most bloody-minded SOB's in the ancient Middle East, anyway, and they had conquest down to a fine art. As a society, they were certainly the most martial of their times--everyone hated them, and the Bible talked about how pleased everyone was when the Assyrians got their heads kicked in eventually.