Where am I?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by draqon, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. Signalis Registered Member

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    fight or die
     
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  3. Signalis Registered Member

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    if u fight, then u will see
     
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  5. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    Perhaps he does, & like me, maybe he's reached the end to what logic us as human beings are provided with. Having said that, is this man's fundamental flaw - that we have to believe in our (nature's)limits? I doubt so - that's why we have imagination which tends to defy all logic. Perhaps imagination is the answer to your (my) question & every other question, as logic itself is a man-made concept - that could be limiting the true potential of our own given consciousness(es). Typing this out & doing other tasks that might seem mundane, habit, such as language, speaking - communicating via means that help our outside's communicate with others might be holding back that potential internal /empathic power of communication we 'could' call psychic ability, ESP or whatever... Whichever way you look at it, we're all multi-amplifiers of our habitat. A piece of music is a mood, feeling - a mental texture within... etc. And like I've mentioned in my own bloody threads, perhaps we don't exist at all - well not in this reality, but as energies from one true origin of energy that's beyond our comprehension. Everything is energy.
     
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  7. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    I feel such a kill-joy now...

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  8. draqon Banned Banned

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    sweet.
     
  9. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    We are never truly alone - we are physically connected to all other DNA via sympathetic resonance in the GHz range.
     
  10. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    are you sure its not the other way around?

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  11. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    because there is only you.
    and because you are everything (like in your dreams), you can't exist, so you can't be alone.
    but if you think you are different from everything, you might be lonely.

    whatever.......
     
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  12. draqon Banned Banned

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    no, I enjoyed reading this the most. Its very logical.
     
  13. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    Quoted from Tim Ingold The Perception of the Environment:

    “For if every organism is not so much a discrete entity as a node in a field of relationships, then we have to think in a new way not only about the interdependence of organisms and their environments but also about their evolution”
     
  14. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    Amusing ~ isn't it...?

    hee !!!
     
  15. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    I love the quote...

    "node" & "relationships" - crucial to the thread, as your example suggests that we humans need a reason to be here. And perhaps there is no reason to exist, yet the arrogance of man decides that there should be as it's to man's terms.
     
  16. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    Similar kind of thing - the arrogance of man.
     
  17. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    How about if we fight we won't see? It's an ambiguous comment, as if it's in reference to this thread then should we really be fighting what ever reality we are? - Or if it's in reference to society, that's undermining our true potential (or taking it away), fighting would seem the only wise option. Either way we first have to know what we are - if it's a suppressed one, we're not it.
     
  18. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    I like the phenomenological approach to these type of dilemmas...rather than fighting its about accepting in a zen way...like a kung fu master who uses a larger opponents strength against themselves.
    In relation to the "Where am I?" theme I believe that the Newtonian idea of the universe as container has engendered a false cultural perception of identity in space and time...and it is from this cultural identity that we take the referents for deciding who we are as individuals.
    The idea of monads, proposed by Liebniz, comes closer to the human phenomenological experience. Following this, the post-modern neurosis/identity crisis is a realization that Newton sold us a dud (this time!)...."now where did I leave that monad?"
     
  19. draqon Banned Banned

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    so what is this universe if it is not a container? Infinity seems to be impossible to imagine...nor is the concept mathematically sound.
     
  20. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    Bollocks to it all - it's choice; what we choose to be is deemed true to our uniquely similar fantastic selves. Time to flatline.
     
  21. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    So is finity

    There are what 6 billion people in the world, do you know how much that is.
    The human hart beats like 70 times a min, so there are more people on the world then all the heart beats in your life.

    The world is to crowded I think,
     
  22. Chris_Smith Registered Senior Member

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    Actually... carry on - ignore my last comment. Where are my manners?
     
  23. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    sorry arrogance of man I guess.
     

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