Interbreeding with Animals

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  1. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Makes alot of sense?
     
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  3. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    The ability to interbreed is the final word on whether two species are actually the same species or not. If they consistently have healthy and fertile offspring they are the same species. If the consistently have healthy offspring that are usually infertile, they are a different species but closely related. I don't think that such a determination can otherwise be made without extremely detailed DNA matching.
     
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  5. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Can humans breed with other primates?
     
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  7. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Ask Inverto (just kidding).
     
  8. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    not donkey?
     
  9. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Look at Spuriousmonkey

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  10. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    Any volunteers?
     
  11. valich Registered Senior Member

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    No, this is no longer the accepted definition. And hybrids can sometimes change from being sterile to non-sterile through polyploidy. Today we define a species as two separate populations that do not normally interbreed in nature. You see the difference here? They are ecologically isolated but yet if placed in an artificial environment, as is the case with the two distinct species of lions and tigers, they can still produce viable fertile hybrid offspring.
     
  12. valich Registered Senior Member

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    No. They were thought to have interbred with Neanderthals but this is still debated. Humans cannot produce offspring from any other primate species.
     
  13. zenbabelfish autonomous hyperreal sophist Registered Senior Member

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    What about in the past though Valich?
     
  14. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    How far in the past zenbab?
     
  15. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

    All species somewhere should have the ability to interbreed otherwise the evolution proces would be extremly difficult. But you don't wreally hear much of hybrid homidae

    Monkey's on the other hand: link
    gibbon+ Siamangs= Siabon
    Rhesus Macaque+Hamadryas Baboon=Rheboon

    If humans neanderthals were to breed you would proberly get something like when a sumatran orangutans and bornean orangutans mate and that's, sterile or poorly fertile hybrids. Hybrid orangutans are genetically weaker, with lower survival rates than pure animals.
     
  16. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    That's a pretty bold call. I would have thought that humans and chimpanzees were at least as close genetically and horses and donkeys. I suspect that the notion hasn't been properly tested, and if it has, it hasn't been published (no surprise!)

    Getting ethical clearance would be pretty impossible. Even if it was only to test if human and chimpanzee haploids would combine in vitro to make a zygote.
     
  17. IceAgeCivilizations Banned Banned

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    Since "we're all just animals," according to Darwinists, then why don't they just pay somebody to mate with a chimp to see what happens?
     
  18. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Who is this "they", that doesn't have a code of ethics?
     
  19. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    You can't even mate a mouse with another mouse without a permission in science.
     
  20. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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    Ha!

    "Hey, do you have funding for those little fuckers?"
     
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    If a human were able to mate with a chimp to produce an offspring, what would it look like? Would it look like Eddy Munster, or a pygmy African, or a monkey with a moustache and straight legs in a suit, would it look like the Geico caveman, thoughts?
     
  23. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    stalin was hoping for a "I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."
     

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