Define God.

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Jaster Mereel, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    That which is not a thing, and that which is not nothing.

    I picked this definition since God's existence is indisputable (even if you say that God exists only to man), but it is also impossible to say what is God without limiting God's existence to a set of qualities.

    Critique. Offer alternatives. Thank you.
     
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  3. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    If you buy into the ontological nonsense of Anselm, god is that which you can think of nothing greater, which tautologically proves it exists.

    If you accept the nonsense of Berkeley, then god exists because things exist independent of the human mind. He thought that for anything to exist, they must be thought of and, thus infinite things must be held in existence by an infinite mind.

    But if you accept the mode of reason, there simply is no need for a god. "God," then, is a social construct to which gaps in human knowledge have always been attributed by those that were hesitant to allow for natural explanations for that which is observed in nature.
     
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  5. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    Now, are you characterizing these positions as "nonsense" because you find them to be philosophically unsound? If so, a well thought out line of reasoning would be preferable to your unsophisticated labelling of this and that to be "nonsense".

    Oh. I guess the reason is that you have an emotive hostility toward particular concepts which don't jive with your no doubt deterministic, materialistic worldview, which leads you to dismiss out of hand a broad range of human experience. I mistook your reply as an honest attempt at philosophical critique. Forgive me.
     
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  7. Mosheh Thezion Registered Senior Member

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    God = The source of applied energy in universal formation.

    -MT
     
  8. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    if by reason you mean empiricism, you just left a gaping gunshot wound in your foot

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  9. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    why is it limiting to give god qualities?
     
  10. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    Whenever you say God is something, then you are also saying God is not nothing.
     
  11. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    if you say that god is nothing, you don't have a god that bears any significance on the world - given that god is reputed to be the possession of many characteristics, to say the least being the cause of all causes and omnimax, it snot clear how 'nothing' is a suitable definition ("nothing mundane or material" could be suitable however)
     
  12. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    I think you're missing my point.

    If God cannot be nothing, then God as a concept is finite.
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    to say the least, if god is nothing, god is even more limited
     
  14. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    Hence my definition. God can be neither a thing nor nothing.
     
  15. Smellsniffsniff Gravitomagnetism Heats the Sun Registered Senior Member

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    Every smallest unit, knows nothing about the other, only its reaction to the others reaction. If I am me, I am one unit

    God is the part which simulate heaven, hell and earth with electrical impulses in every smallest unit.
     
  16. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Who the fuck knows.
     
  17. Smellsniffsniff Gravitomagnetism Heats the Sun Registered Senior Member

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    Every smallest unit knows only itself.
     
  18. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    I have no idea what you are trying to say. Do you think you could explain it a little more clearly?
     
  19. Smellsniffsniff Gravitomagnetism Heats the Sun Registered Senior Member

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    If every part of everything knows nothing about any other part but its own reaction, how can a human be conscious yet not everything else?
     
  20. Jaster Mereel Hostis Humani Generis Registered Senior Member

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    I'm gonna have to say that it still doesn't make any sense.
     
  21. Smellsniffsniff Gravitomagnetism Heats the Sun Registered Senior Member

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    When you look on something you see an image of it, That image must therefor be seen by a unit in which every part knows what the other sees.
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    or alternatively there can exist material qualities and forms and spiritual qualities and forms, and god has a no material qualities or forms but spiritual qualities and forms
     
  23. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    No, there can't.
     

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