Male Virgin Problems

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  1. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe they just get too used to porn? Is this a 'use it or lose' kind of thing?

    Losing Virginity Later Linked to Sexual Problems

    While past research has linked early sexual activity to health problems, a new study suggests that waiting too long to start having sex carries risks of its own.

    Those who lose their virginity at a later age -- around 21 to 23 years of age -- tend to be more likely to experience sexual dysfunction problems later, say researchers at Columbia University and the New York State Psychiatric Institute's HIV Center for Clinical and Behavioral Studies.

    Men who lose their virginity in their 20s, in particular, seemed to be more likely to experience sexual problems that include difficulty becoming sexually aroused and reaching orgasm.....
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe they lose their virginity later because they have sexual problems to begin with.
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    But how would they know until they had sex? Oh wait...guys...never mind.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    I really think problems with becoming sexually aroused and reaching orgasm would be obvious to the individual.
    It could also mean a low libido, which would explain both the sexual problems and the late loss of virginity.

    Edit: You aren't saying women never masturbate, right ? lol
     
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  8. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    "For women, she said, the message that "good girls" should not engage in or enjoy sex may cause women to shut down sexually, leading to dysfunction."

    From personal experience, I can say this is true. Masturbation was something I never did. It was dirty and sinful.
     
  9. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    It could also show signs of low-self esteem, lack of hygiene, avoidance of intimacy, avoidance of the opposite sex, agoraphobia, severe shyness and so on. In other words being a late virgin could be a sign that there was already a problem which made it much harder to meet, develop a connection with and have sex with a member of the opposite sex. That they also had problems after need not be caused by the later first sex but a part of a longer pattern.

    In other words: teenage boys should not pay a prostitute, for example, to prevent a late first sexual experience and thus hope to prevent later sexual problems. This would be a poor analysis of causes and effects.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    That's just not very factual. I wonder how many "subjects" were actually

    asked and how many told the truth. I couldn't understand why anyone who

    waits until any age would have "problems" with their sex partner. It just

    doesn't make sense to me. This sounds like one of those government

    research grants that doesn't really have much to do with reality.
     
  11. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Kids got no imagination these days...
     
  12. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    You seriously don't understand why someone who doesn't have sex until much later than everyone else might be more prone to sexual problems? :bugeye:
     
  13. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see how. That doesn't mean there are some people out there who

    could develop sexual problems but there are very few and the study doesn't

    tell us how many people they asked.
     
  14. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    If you wait a month, you can find out.

    The study will appear in the January 2008 issue of the American Journal of Public Health

    This was just a news report, not the actual study, so it was kinda condensed
     
  15. Gently Passing Registered Senior Member

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    Well I was 23...no problem here.

    Especially regarding arousal. Now orgasm? That's her responsibility! (As hers is mine.)
     
  16. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    If someone isn't having sex when everyone else is, there's probably a reason. Maybe they have a low sex drive. Maybe they have been taught to believe that sex is bad and that they should feel guilty about it. Maybe they have some sort of medical problem. There are all sorts of reasons why someone might wait a long time to have sex, and most of them could plausibly lead to problems once they start having sex (in addition to causing them to wait to have it in the first place). If you have physical or psychological hang-ups that cause you to not have sex when everyone else does, those hang-ups aren't likely to just suddenly disappear when you do start having sex; they'll probably continue to cause problems.
     
  17. Archie Registered Senior Member

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    From the actual news article...
    In other words, there is no indication abstinance causes sexual disfunction.

    In truth, I started early, about fourteen or fifteen years of age. (I'm now in my late '50s.) I can say with firm conviction, I've never had a sucessful sexual relationship with a women. The best relationships with women have been platonic friendships. I know other men in similar circumstances - this of course is not a government funded study, but perhaps it should be.
     
  18. Gently Passing Registered Senior Member

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    My one and only was my wife, and it is a very successful relationship.

    We are in a band and work very well together. It is somewhat reflective of the Japanese type of culture we are interested in religiously where spouses work very closely together - a good example being Okazaki (Okazaki DNA Fragments), who died before completing his work, which his wife completed.

    Americans seem to have this attitude that women are objects (the same works the other way to a point.)

    I think there is a connection between sexual guilt, especially religious guilt, and sexual dysfunction. Also the sex is probably not as good. It probably does the job - squeeze out the juice, clean up quick and don't talk about it...shh.

    I'm very open about it, which is why people often assume we are swingers, but in actuality we are probably the closest thing to what the Christians teach...and we're not Christians! We were just both raised with married parents who also had healthy sexual relationships, and still do I would assume.
     
  19. Looney Whaaaaat? Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think that a person loosing their virginity at 21 is late. 31 or 41 maybe. I don't teenagers should be having sex anyway. Most are too immature and unable to deal with or foresee the consequences. Many people loose their virginity in their 20's, yes even waiting until marriage, and do just fine.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah but you are not all women. Women masturbate just like men, that's why I don't get this comment (or rather, why you said it): "Oh wait...guys...never mind."
     
  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    because I KNOW not all women masturbate. I think all guys do. I think they would notice they couldn't have an erection or an orgasm. It's not as easy for women. How would a woman who doesn't masturbate know she was dysfunctional if she didn't have sex?
     
  22. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Well, there is the "death grip" problem. If masturbation isn't done properly, the penis can be desensitized to where it is nearly impossible to have an orgasm from intercourse. Use lube guys.
     
  23. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think a 20yr old virgin ruins it for himself that way. I think he has bigger issues. Like, sex has to be pure or perfect. Or he has intimacy issues. I think for a guy to still be a virgin later on in his life, he has mental issues. (same for a woman) I know women who are 'saving themselves for marriage' and you just have issues when you finally get married at 32.
     
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