The actual question - "Why don't you kill yourself?"

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by greenberg, Mar 26, 2008.

  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know to what level. But I do know that every process in your body is eventually controlled by your genes.
     
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  3. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    Oddly enough you think my genes control what I know. You think your genes prevent you from committing suicide.

    Yet, you, a determinist, think that I am free to stop talking or not.

    How odd.
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I don't say your genes control what you know.

    I don't know if you are free to stop talking or not. But probably the tendency to continue speaking is genetically based.
     
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  7. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    OK. Thank you. Well, just so you know

    my speaking is a process in my body. It is a physical process.

    Do you have any idea how frustrating it is to argue with someone who does not understand the implications of their own philosophy? You are defending something you understand less well than me.

    Now I am done bickering. I'll take what I quoted above as an admission even if you can't see it.
     
  8. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    ???? the act of preserving ones self is built into our genes
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol I do understand the implications but I am not all-knowing.
    I think what mostly bothers you is that it doesn't bother me.
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It is.. Sowhat is trying to compare it with speaking..
     
  11. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say any of those things, because those aren't what is keeping me around. At 42, I can safely say that I wouldn't have missed much if I had offed myself as a teenager. A few people would miss me, but not many.

    I don't enjoy life very much, but after contemplating it many times, I long ago realized I wouldn't ever actually do it (commit suicide). And I ultimately ascribe that to the fear that comes from trying to overcome your instinct for self preservation.

    Why do you think orgasms are so enjoyable? To me, the pleasure is an obvious reward for doing an activity that usually (eventually at least) leads to reproduction. Successful behavior is rewarded, the unsuccessful leads to the exit sign.

    You probably won't see the humor in this. But I do.

    Doctors Find New Way To Prolong Meaningless Existence

    ITHACA, NY–In a stunning medical breakthrough, a team of Cornell University biogeneticists announced Tuesday that it has developed a revolutionary new synthetic hormone that retards the human aging process, enabling individuals to extend the churning, meaningless void known as life by upwards of 20 years.

    "This remarkable new hormone will enable millions of people to live longer, healthier lives," said Dr. Marlene Peretz-Worthington, head of the Cornell team. "Once the substance wins FDA approval and is made available to the general public, the hellish emptiness of our spiritually blank lives should be that much more inescapable."

    According to Peretz-Worthington, between 1990 and 1998, 250 test subjects between the ages of 68 and 81 were injected bi-weekly with Noexitoxythalynucleothylinase, an experimental DNA-modifying hormone that "freezes" the genetic codes that regulate aging. In all 250 subjects, the drug slowed down the aging process by at least 30 percent, adding years to their futile, purposeless existences.
    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28913
     
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  12. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    It only works every time if you reincarnate as I do
     
  13. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    did anyone notice what they called it:

     
  14. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    That will teach you to annoy Zeus
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol Fitting

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  16. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    but you don't believe in that viewpoint...

    what hormones are those exactly? are you talking about fight or flight chemicals?
     
  17. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    And physical process are mediated by what, exactly ?
     
  18. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Your genes determine how you react to your environment. Is that so difficult to understand ?
     
  19. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    How can one avoid talking like a person if one is a person. You'll be telling me next that cows choose to moo. You just don't het it. No doubt you have a special definition of a person.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Myles, I feel I have to tell you that Sowhat has you on ignore.
     
  21. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know?
     
  22. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    sowhatifit'sdark.

    If things said on here make you sick , may I suggest a solution ? Put down Camus and pick up Sartre's La Nausee. That should do the trick. You keep making one fatal mistake. You assume because we talk of genes in the way we do, that we are peasants who have not read Sartre, Camus and that we know nothing of Existentialism. The thought that we may have left such vacuous speculation behind us does not occur to you.
     
  23. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Well, that's a surefire way of not losing an argument. I remember a kid who ran home whining with hs ball because we didn't let him score a goal.
     

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