One step closer to VR ?

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  1. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_Main.html

    Looks nice, and
    CAD gave it an ok..

    No adverse side effects huh..

    http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/

    It's a step in the right direction though right ?
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    "It's not true 3D, you're not going to be able to tilt your head and see around objects (though you will certainly want to try), but it may just been the best you can get on the market today.

    I think it's done well enough here to be more than a novelty, but it's still not a necessity. "



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  5. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    hence, my title... One step closer ?

    This is quasi VR, and it's available commercially.
     
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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I'll wait for a better one to come along, to expensive for not being the real deal. I can wait. It won't be long I don't think before true 3D will be available.
     
  8. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    True 3D would be class.

    I can't wait until proper VR is developed.

    I wish I had one of those machines like in the Matrix, where you can be plugged in to a virtual environment and do whatever you like. You would never tear me away.
     
  9. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    VR is still trying to simulate a reality for our senses to perceive, with fancy goggles or motion detection software. I don't think that's going to work, it'll never be a true replacement of reality. We won't have true VR until we can trick the brain into accepting an artificial signal as though it were coming from the nerves in our body. Like the Matrix or Ghost in the Shell.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Just another "gimmic" to try to get people to buy something new again.

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  11. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    So,Like the matrix.
     
  12. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    I thought this type of think had been out yonks, even for older 3d games.
     
  13. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Yeah, various 3D glasses have been marketed over the years, and none seem to catch on.

    We perhaps need a standard, so you can buy LCD shuttered glasses, and plug them into any graphics card, to drive sales?

    I thought we'd have been further along with PC VR now. I played on VR games in the late 80's, and rather expected more to be available now. What I'd really like is glasses that produce the image, and that the PC monitors the position of, so when you move your head, what you see changes. That would be great for flight sims and FPS stuff.
     
  14. Challenger78 Valued Senior Member

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    These glasses relay their position to a reciever, but they don't produce the image. They just enhance it.
     
  15. q0101 Registered Senior Member

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    The Geforce 3D Vision is not bringing us one step closer to virtual reality. Stereoscopic 3D technology has been around for many years. There are many other companies out there that have similar products on the market. From my experience I would have to say that most of the products are a waste of money. I was never interested in the idea of using stereoscopic glasses for watching movies and playing videogames in my home. You can’t have a high quality immersive 3D experience in your home unless you are one of the few people that owns a good front projector with a screen that is a least 100 inches wide. Most of the high quality VR products on the market are too expensive for the average person to own. That is why I would like to see the creation of high tech entertainment centers where people could watch 3D movies and play videogames.

    There was a time was a time when people would go out to a cinema or an arcade to have an experience that they could not get at home. I can remember the first time I heard THX in a theatre. I can remember choosing to play videogames at an arcade because I didn’t like the way the graphics looked on my 16-bit videogame console. Back in the early 90’s (Before 32-bit consoles were released in North America) a gaming system like the Super Nintendo had an approximate value of $200 - $300. At the same time some of the new machines at the arcades were valued at over $100,000. In the present, the few arcades that are still around can’t compete with videogame consoles. Both the hardware and the software of the consoles are usually better than anything that you can find in an arcade.

    I want to have the option of playing a videogame on a multi-million dollar supercomputer. I want to watch movies and play videogames in the Imax Dome 3D format. I want to have the privilege of paying to experience VR with this head mounted display and this force feedback device. I want to use realistic car and plane simulations that would give me some experience that I could use in the real world.
     
  16. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I don't think they do relay their position, what's the point, you have to look at a screen, so that's where your head is facing. All these glasses do is alternately shutter each eye with an LCD shutter, so you get interleaved left/right eye images, giving an impression of 3D.

    It's not new, it's been done before, and it's never really taken off. They need to think bigger, and create a standard.
     
  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Any contraption attached to your eyes can only be called personal television or some such name. We should keep the word VR when we actually interface directly to our brain like the movie brainstorm. Someday....
     
  18. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    I went on an awesome fighter flight simulator in an arcade in Lanzarote in 1999. The game wasn't so great, but the simulator itself was.

    It was a ball thing that you strapped yourself into with pedals, joystick and throttle if I remember rightly. You then strapped on a headpiece that was stereoscopic and would know where you were looking and adjust the image accordingly.

    But the best bit was that the ball rotated in whatever direction you were in the plane, and you could do rolls and all sorts. Obviously you wouldn't feel all the g forces, but it was great fun actually going upside down and such.

    It was an awesome piece of kit. Looking around your cockpit whilst actually upside down doing a loop.
     
  19. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Sounds great, not seen one of those before. That's the sort of stuff we should be seeing, or boiled down versions for the home market. At least goggles that know their position, to give us the ability to look around.
     
  20. q0101 Registered Senior Member

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    Sega use to make a lot of high tech arcade games during the 90’s. I remember playing an airplane game that allowed you to go upside down. You would have to go to a place like Disney World or Universal Studios to find something like that today.

    You can buy those things for your home entertainment system, but they’re ridiculously expensive. I spent over $50,000 on various electronic products during the past ten years. Vrealities.com sells most of the VR products that are available. There are many head mounted displays and motion tracking systems that you can buy for your PC, but the good products are too expensive for the average person. The hardware that I would like to own would be cost me over $200,000. I don’t think that I would spend that amount of money even if I could afford it, because it’s not like if the software companies are designing videogames that are compatible with the PiSight HMD. Entertainment centers is the best way for people to experience VR in the near future.
     
  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    that is true. of course the device used to display it is two dimensional.
     
  22. q0101 Registered Senior Member

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    Most 3D displays only provide depth perception. To have the best immersive experience you need depth perception combined with a 180º display. The only way to have that experience is to go to one of the few Imax dome 3D screens in the world, or by using the PiSight HMD. There are other companies out there that made 180º HMDs, but they’re just prototypes.
     
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