something is horribly wrong with you, see a professional! no need to be kidding. what you do not see enmos is as she is just that tough on her stance, that is exactly what you are to me!
why.......? ........ i see you telling a person over and over to get professional assistance, as if you are qualified to give that kind of advice. can you articulate anything to assist in the defining of "why"? yet are telling someone to get help?
enmos, there is nothing wrong with me, this is just how it works ok? you guys ask for specifics. you ask for examples. you ask me to explain. i can't help if this stuff freaks you out. it freaked me out too. that doesn't mean it's not real. it's just not what you're used to hearing or experiencing yourself.
lori, that is what a scientific mind does; they question point is, if you cannot define what you are experiencing objectively, then your bias is easy to identify you lean on the per se actual experience but then practically say 'sorry, you don't have it, na na,nnnna na na" when the reality is, neither do you! sure you feel just like every person on earth does equally sure you experience but so does any of consciousness problem is, if you cannot articulate it, and willing to fib in defense; then you no better than a pope or caliph or rabbi or head hunter or even a ted haggart both side are claiming infallibility and yet neither have the full scope or capacity to perform. it's a common psychosis
I already said that I'm no expert. Read the thread. All I'm saying is that she could benefit from seeing a professional. God tells her to buy flowers for some singer and even points out a shop where she can get some nice flowers.. You tell me, would it be a good idea to see a professional ?
you don't know i don't have these experiences. that is what you'd like to believe! and just because i can't explain the spiritual realm doesn't mean it doesn't exist. and for god's sake, the moment i go, "you don't have it. na, na, na, na", please someone shoot me. i did in fact just articulate my experience, and i am not a liar.
now when you present it, like that even i have to be honest and say; "you gotta point there" it is almost like seeing 18 billion put into a hadron; that is not finding particles but creating them! i guess it falls under the same idea of "some shit is just too stupid to even read"
Lori, "it all started with a record. i had heard a song on the radio" When did this start, in other words starting from the beginning. What year or approxiamate year was it ?
i didn't say the experience was off i am telling you the definitions are oooooops! (not opinion; fact!) the experience; i can go with............ i have experienced houses chasing me during an acid trip. I can say, i know what experiences can do to a person. but when i was back on earth with 2 feet on the ground, then i went back to that tract to see if the houses went back to where i originally found them (not where i left them) the point is, unless them houses were in the middle of the street waiting for me to come back; then i would have some serious splainin to figure out..... i allow myself to look for reality when the experience is not being observed, to understand what happened. you on the other hand have combined a whole bunch of other renditions to patch up your story and no one, no how, nothing, is going to change your mind....... jump in line darlin............ there be a whole world of the same type! all i ask is for each to grow if ya don't wanna, then so be it; i am still learning and will each day until dead! then again, who knows maybe tomorrow, i will see god too!
november 2004. i must also say though that i had received revelation regarding the abduction experience and aliens prior to that...approximately 1998. it's actually why i came out here to sciforums back then. to warn people. you can imagine how that was received. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
again, you took it as if i said YOU were it was to point out, that i am not as sensitive to interractions with my environment as you are without substances to lift the minds eye. i would never discount a native trained in the usages as i also can entertain your experiences it is your defining of the experience that is a joke that is why, from me (an esoteric) to the religious, to the scientific mind; all share you have 'less than' a coherant rendition that is exactly what i have been dealing with for a long long long time so the steps to take are to combine knowledge to learn how to articulate that unless the depth is both verifiable and equal among our species, then the renditions and works is incomplete many many many have EXPERIENCED, lori (r u experienced...jh) but like in all them books the reason why the SINGLE rendition to assist all mankind to understand them same experiences equally IS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU to stubborn to humble yourself down and learn WITH US ALL! quick defending the YOU and think about US ALL remember "the self" is the most horrid of wicked thoughts
oh, you're doing the same thing with your mumbo jumbo. get over yourself. if you think for one second i'm going to get the gist of the garbly gook you spew out here you're nuts. i speak like a real person. i describe experiences in a way that can be understood. i'll put my rendition up to yours anyday.
now you regress what line in that post is mumbo? hey lori....................... i would rather offer something that can be grounded, then lie just to talk telling people 'i spoke to god' is what you call that? then define life. meaning if your god does not enable all of us to 'what is life'........... then your whole ideology is just like most; full of it! 'we the people' are mankind............. and if your beliefs in god are what you like to maintain, then OK; but when you fib, when you lie, when you render BS that is not true, that can perpetuate the BS further; knowing you are full of it; then any and all of us can rip you a new one just for fun! you are bound to self and i don't have much respect for any human being that is more concerned about themselves then others i say to anyone, please educate me; but lie to me and i own you
not that post in particular, but i can not make heads or tails of your light/entanglement stuff, and i venture that a lot of others can't either. i'm not lying. do people not know what the word spoke means? to speak? i think most have a handle on that, and a concept of what god is or is supposed to be. i'm living it. are you trying to tell me you're not alive? LIVE. you are so hung up on your verbosity you're missing the whole point. well let me attest that i don't need to lie for that to happen, and i reiterate. i am not lying. jerk. you are bound to words. this whole thing happened to me because i offered to help someone, and i'm glad i did. oh don't you wish.
Lori, Ok, first off thanks for sharing. I know that was not necessarily easy to do considering how some would view the experience. Secondly I humbly suggest that you put all of this: In the category of coincendental. The reason is, it's not that unusual at all. Many people myself included get obsessed over music, if they do a good job of it that's what they hope will happen. Then people will promote them and buy more albums when the next one comes out. The lyrics reminded you, but again, his lyrics are vaque and it could mean something totally different in his mind. It's also very common for people to try to find hidden meaning in the lyrics because they are intentionally done so. Pink Floyd the Wall for example. I am a song writer and guitarist. I used to write songs that were very frank and to the point. I now write songs that are more elusive and gray. It allows the listener to find a place to fit in the song as opposed to feeling that fingers are being pointed. It's a good tactic and he is not the first to do so. The statements below Were you or are you infatuated with Trent ? Were you are you in love with him or his persona ? And this, There are signs of an anxiety like attack. I had one once, it felt out of body as well. Not too unsimilar to yours. But I understood the source of mine as being very earthly. You know they almost didn't put that book in the bible. It was a toss up, they decided to add it because they wanted a good ending ! If you weren't on mind altering drugs, then you should see a professional about it for testing. I am not making any judgements, but if I were you I would. I am not saying your crazy, but they might find a cause. You have been very brave in telling me what you experienced because there are those who would call you a liar, or nuts or whatever and that is not what I want to come accross. But it's not everyday that people experience this last part. The other parts are explainable with more help and information from you. But this last part is something beyond that and if it were me, I would think I was going crazy and seek out help from those who could either understand and treat it, or tell me they could find nothing wrong with me. They may be others who experience something similar and have identified what causes it. I would want to know as much as I could about the state of myself if things started moving about the table on their own. Thanks for sharing that is indeed very interesting. I have another question. How did you come to end up on the vids ? You said you were an accountant ?
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that is what i am learning how to do, share what them properties are into words that can assist others. if all people just said; "ooo that is too much", then rocket science would never have occurred you can't build a computer from scratch either, others know far more than you do; doesn't mean you say, "well god told me to plug it in and tap the keys' think of what a physics professor must go thru trying to teach his students a particle is neither a wave or particle but both ideas apply in certain frames. It doesn't mean the conveyance is perfect, but they are trying to share a real set of observable, repeatable and experimental evidence; into words/math/appicability and for comprehension. Lori, you don't care about us, or how people can learn what you experienced; you want people to just accept what you say and live with it. well i don't as i know magic, omnipotence and all that 'talking to god' crap are all lies; unequivocally! as unless every person on this earth, can talk to god, then your belief is simply an opinion based on something that occurred but you too ignorant to be able to articulate it; and just don't care to even learn how! talk about a jerk................ anyone too selfish to be fair and honest with us equally is more that a jerk!
