Slavery worse than Holocaust?

Discussion in 'History' started by Kadark, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    It's fair to say that the media believes the Holocaust is the worse thing to happen to human beings. Every week I see, read, or hear something about Nazi's, Hitler, concentration camps, etc. We're inundated perpetually with the notion that the Holocaust was the most egregious crime ever committed against humanity. We're conditioned to the point where we compare everything bad with Hitler or Nazis(me included).

    On the other hand. I rarely see any movies that focus on the horrors of slavery. As for the holocaust, I've seen to many to count. Correction, I've never seen any movie that focused on the horrors of slavery. Amistad doesn't qualify. That movie focused more on the politics and morality of slavery.
     
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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    must be specialized channels you are watching. i never see any references to nazi's. do you watch history channel only?
     
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  5. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.ama.africatoday.com/films.htm

    But true, Hitler, and the Nazism are a main focus in the film industry. Some films even have this glorifying atmosphere to them. Can't say that I'm supportive of Hollywood and other film industries using Nazism, Hitler, and 2nd world war as a concept for a film. Documentaries - yes, films - no.
     
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  7. John99 Banned Banned

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    hardly the main focus of the film industry, not even close.
     
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  10. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    Never spoke of banning at all.
     
  11. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, the Holocaust was far worse then slavery, it was a targeted action, slavery was universal, and it existed in every culture, and it's intended purpose wasn't the destruction of specific elements of society.

    That is why the Holocaust was so abhorrent, specific group's, ethnic, religious, social, handicapped, sexual, and political, were targeted for extermination, in the name of creating a superior Aryan ideal Human, all others were to be discarded, and their genes was to me eradicated from the human genome.
     
  12. nightcrow34 Registered Member

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    people first of all the idea of comparing horrible events that real people experience to each other to see which is worst is one of the grossest displays of human stupidty I have ever seen, saying one doesn't compare to the other is a good statement but for the wrong reasons.
    They don't compare not because one was worse but because they are TWO of the most horrible example of human fear and greed.

    Even so... the amount of africans who died on the middle passage or the triangular trade route were not astronomical you'd still have to take in to acount those who died when they reached their destination and those who chose to rebel.

    Also slavery didn't just end after the civil war you'll remember the period of time black people where hunted by the klan and other hate groups, up until the late 60's the couldn't vote and where bieng killed for trying, this happened after ww2 which ironically the fought in, and 200 years is not "a brief period". just stop before a jewish person or a black one decides you guys are ignorant and fools.
     
  13. nightcrow34 Registered Member

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    I know its late but I had just stumbled upon this site and couldn't help but comment.
     
  14. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    The holocaust is so significant modern day because it came at a time where we thought that as a human race we had porgressed beyond this idea. We did not think there was anyplace in the world where millions of people would be exterminated. Hell, we didnt think there was a place where 100,000 people would be killed for religion. We thought it was impossible.

    Right here, right there, they saw the most horrifying painful thing they have ever seen. It made people question their beliefs to their very core.

    You see, we dont treat slavery the same way because we don't believe anyone is or can ever do it in a major way ever again. We thought the same thing about the idea of the Holocaust when it happened. And than we not only saw it happen, but happen with millions and millions of innocent people. It was horrifying to us as a society.
     
  15. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Well, the people who were transported across the Atlantic in those boats were essentially kidnapped. Is kidnapping a crime?

    That being said; I'd consider the Holocaust to be worse than slavery. The willingness to enslave someone requires a certain amount of evil and immorality, but trying to wipe an entire racial/ethnic group from the face of the earth takes it to a whole other level.
     
  16. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with you that the Holocaust isn't the main focus of the entertainment industry, but it certainly has its niche.
     
  17. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I'd have to agree with the media, in this instance. The Holocaust is probably the most evil thing that one group of people has ever done to another.

    I haven't seen any movies that focus on the horrors of slavery. Most likely because such a movie would be boring and repetitive. Just like most Holocaust movies are boring and repetitive, since they basically just recycle the same story over and over again.
     
  18. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    Of course it does.
    Look who has the money in Hollywood.

    And the majority will swallow anything rammed down their thorats, as long as it has some nifty special effects and cute leading men/women.
     
  19. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Tom Cruise? :shrug:

    But most Holocaust movies aren't known for special effects or hot babes (unless you go for anorexic women). To be honest, I've found most Holocaust movies I've seen to be very predictable and on the boring side, yet they're usually showered with praise and nominations for awards. Why is that?
     
  20. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Im sorry, but how many holocaust movies are out there. As far as major movies in the last ten years Ive only heard of one or two. How the f*ck is that being "rammed" down our throats?
     
  21. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Because they shake us to our core. In this day and age the idea of a society that slaughters 6 million people on the basis of religious is horrifying. The very idea that it could and did happen shatters our perspective of a modern and sophisticated world.
     
  22. BennyF Registered Senior Member

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    I'm trying to decide which "holocaust" is being discussed here. There were at least five during the 20th Century alone.

    1915-20 Turkey killed 1.2 million Armenians, plus another 1.3 million Greeks. Few survived to tell the horrific tales.

    1938-45 Nazis murder 11 million Europeans in a dozen countries.

    1958-61 The Chinese Cultural Revolution. Somewhere around 60-80 million people died because they weren't Communists.

    1970-80 Cambodia loses over half its' population in an organized, well-planned, and culturally-based event.

    1994 Rawanda loses about a million people. The country is a third the size of Brazil.

    There were other, smaller but no less murderous reductions in populations that occurred. Check out the link below.

    http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html
     
  23. soullust Registered Senior Member

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    damn dude don't get so personal, yes you are correct both of these things In our history is of great disgrace, but flipping out like a crazy baboon after just taking some LSD with a dose of Adrenalin will not do your cause for debate any good.

    and i just seen you were banned, so yeah...
     

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